Do you think that I was arguing the latter? When did I provide any support for the other side? Never. Just because I believe one person's argument is feeble does not mean that I believe the other person's position is strong. You may want to look into logic - it's a powerful thing to understand when you are in a technical field. Furthermore, when did "late night comprehension error" turn into "lie"? Is this really the level I'm dealing with on Slashdot these days?
Where do you get the "hard numbers" to support your assertion that "10 million Christian women [are] killed by their husbands in the United States yearly"? That seems a tad high - I am fairly certain that fewer than 6.5% of American women are murdered by their husbands every year. Are you sure that you're not just "manipulating facts to suit your own biased agenda" instead of "provid[ing] concrete facts to support" anything you say?
How about those with not a dime to their names? $10,000 fine plus court costs doesn't mean all that much if you can't even afford the bus fare to get to court.
In a court of equity, it's called unclean hands. The same or similar doctrines apply to cases at law (meaning those where you get sued for money damages), depending on your jurisdiction. Also, it may be that there are criminal laws against this sort of Trojan horsery - similar to how the law of false pretenses makes it a crime to obtain title to another's property by false pretenses. This could be considered a theft of computer services and/or a trespass to your computer by false pretenses. IANAL, but it's altogether likely that this kind of behavior can be punished in civil court, criminal court, or both.
It's long been my favorite thing in the world that 90% of Slashdotters have no idea what the word precedent means as a legal term of art. It's just like hearing non-nerds misuse words like gigabyte or hard drive all the time.
You have to RTFA to find out what actually was done. Only the prison term was commuted - the $250,000 fine and two years of probation are intact. You may think that even this was just a slap on the wrist, but this was not a full pardon and the President made it very clear that it was not one, despite the wishes of other Republicans that a full pardon be granted. Whether corrupt or not, Bush's action only goes as to the prison sentence.
Thank you for that GSM map. It is indeed about right. However - my Cellular One experience was not GSM. Were they that mixed? I was in the northern Great Plains when I had them, and I know that at least the portion of their network I was on is now owned by Alltel.
Try zooming in. It's also disingenuous to say the "largest voice and data network" when you won't sell a smartphone to people living in much of the country, including vast areas that CDMA Blackberries work fine in. Also, your use of the phrase "is GSM" is misleading, because CDMA covers more area as well as all of the GSM-covered area. See, e.g., http://www.alltel.com/personal/wireless/plans/nf_c overage_map.html.
Mind if I ask which town and/or county that is? I am in a city of 80,000 on an interstate corridor and Apple says no way, AT&T says partner service only (and even that is dubious), etc.
How many GSM providers are national in the USA? ZERO. Not one of them has a network with "home" service where I live or with ANY service in most of the places I spend time other than home and the office. You may find it surprising, but that vast middle part of the country is part of the nation, and it is by and large CDMA-only. It sucks, too. And here's AT&T, whose shitty service doesn't surprise me given that they lie about having the largest digital voice and data network in the country, given that only a CDMA provider with lots of good partnering agreements.
This is just simply not a good idea. One reason, but certainly not the only one, is that many nerds can't recognize their own handwriting. I know I can't.
Thanks! I'll keep my fingers crossed, just in case. It's unlikely that CDMA will be a new feature for 2008, but you never know. Let's hope that it's successful, though - that's the main prerequisite for them to keep going and expand.:)
I don't know a lot about cell phone technologies, but I do know the general geographical coverage of GSM vs. CDMA. The problem is that the USA is fairly vast and GSM coverage only hits the most major metropolitan areas. Even some major cities lack good coverage, and even AT&T's little coverage map makes you think that the main interstate corridors are covered when in reality they are hit by partner networks to the extent that AT&T won't sell you an iPhone if you live there. Obviously, GSM is going to hit most of Europe and Asia (I believe) and the major US cities, so it's the starting point for anything with this much investment (same with the iPhone, no doubt).
I didn't, however, realize that GSM was open in a way that CDMA was not. That could put a damper on my dreams of ever having a cool smartphone. (I already have a great phone, the E815, but smartphones are another story altogether.)
I didn't realize that GSM would be any easier to get certified. I know that there's more interest for GSM products because of its global prevalence and availability in urban areas in the USA. When you say "our product," do you mean the Neo1973, OpenMoko, or some other specific item? Do you think there's a likelihood of a CDMA version in the near future, or is a CDMA iPhone more likely to show up first?
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Sometimes, I wish I had an unlimited amount of time to spend copyediting Wikipedia. This is one of those times.
Results-oriented justice, your friend in the 21st century. *sigh*
Do you think that I was arguing the latter? When did I provide any support for the other side? Never. Just because I believe one person's argument is feeble does not mean that I believe the other person's position is strong. You may want to look into logic - it's a powerful thing to understand when you are in a technical field. Furthermore, when did "late night comprehension error" turn into "lie"? Is this really the level I'm dealing with on Slashdot these days?
His inability to spell properly militated against that thought. His argument is, in any event, poor at best.
Where do you get the "hard numbers" to support your assertion that "10 million Christian women [are] killed by their husbands in the United States yearly"? That seems a tad high - I am fairly certain that fewer than 6.5% of American women are murdered by their husbands every year. Are you sure that you're not just "manipulating facts to suit your own biased agenda" instead of "provid[ing] concrete facts to support" anything you say?
It's good to see that the AC's haven't yet picked up on sarcasm. It makes the rest of our lives much easier.
That's brilliant and original. I'm shocked that you didn't post your name on it, like I would have if I'd had the brains to make that joke.
Do they have Crystal Pepsi? How much caffeine is in that? Does it age like a fine wine?
It's not plunder, it's booty!
How about those with not a dime to their names? $10,000 fine plus court costs doesn't mean all that much if you can't even afford the bus fare to get to court.
But not the fine, whether it's $5,000 or $250,000.
In a court of equity, it's called unclean hands. The same or similar doctrines apply to cases at law (meaning those where you get sued for money damages), depending on your jurisdiction. Also, it may be that there are criminal laws against this sort of Trojan horsery - similar to how the law of false pretenses makes it a crime to obtain title to another's property by false pretenses. This could be considered a theft of computer services and/or a trespass to your computer by false pretenses. IANAL, but it's altogether likely that this kind of behavior can be punished in civil court, criminal court, or both.
It's long been my favorite thing in the world that 90% of Slashdotters have no idea what the word precedent means as a legal term of art. It's just like hearing non-nerds misuse words like gigabyte or hard drive all the time.
You have to RTFA to find out what actually was done. Only the prison term was commuted - the $250,000 fine and two years of probation are intact. You may think that even this was just a slap on the wrist, but this was not a full pardon and the President made it very clear that it was not one, despite the wishes of other Republicans that a full pardon be granted. Whether corrupt or not, Bush's action only goes as to the prison sentence.
You're right, you wouldn't. People who spell it the modern way, Lisp, however, would.
I'm just crossing my fingers that someone makes a CDMA OpenMoko device in the next year or so. :)
Thank you for that GSM map. It is indeed about right. However - my Cellular One experience was not GSM. Were they that mixed? I was in the northern Great Plains when I had them, and I know that at least the portion of their network I was on is now owned by Alltel.
Try zooming in. It's also disingenuous to say the "largest voice and data network" when you won't sell a smartphone to people living in much of the country, including vast areas that CDMA Blackberries work fine in. Also, your use of the phrase "is GSM" is misleading, because CDMA covers more area as well as all of the GSM-covered area. See, e.g., http://www.alltel.com/personal/wireless/plans/nf_c overage_map.html.
Mind if I ask which town and/or county that is? I am in a city of 80,000 on an interstate corridor and Apple says no way, AT&T says partner service only (and even that is dubious), etc.
How many GSM providers are national in the USA? ZERO. Not one of them has a network with "home" service where I live or with ANY service in most of the places I spend time other than home and the office. You may find it surprising, but that vast middle part of the country is part of the nation, and it is by and large CDMA-only. It sucks, too. And here's AT&T, whose shitty service doesn't surprise me given that they lie about having the largest digital voice and data network in the country, given that only a CDMA provider with lots of good partnering agreements.
This is just simply not a good idea. One reason, but certainly not the only one, is that many nerds can't recognize their own handwriting. I know I can't.
Thanks, mom and dad. I'm doing like you taught me.
Thanks! I'll keep my fingers crossed, just in case. It's unlikely that CDMA will be a new feature for 2008, but you never know. Let's hope that it's successful, though - that's the main prerequisite for them to keep going and expand. :)
I don't know a lot about cell phone technologies, but I do know the general geographical coverage of GSM vs. CDMA. The problem is that the USA is fairly vast and GSM coverage only hits the most major metropolitan areas. Even some major cities lack good coverage, and even AT&T's little coverage map makes you think that the main interstate corridors are covered when in reality they are hit by partner networks to the extent that AT&T won't sell you an iPhone if you live there. Obviously, GSM is going to hit most of Europe and Asia (I believe) and the major US cities, so it's the starting point for anything with this much investment (same with the iPhone, no doubt).
I didn't, however, realize that GSM was open in a way that CDMA was not. That could put a damper on my dreams of ever having a cool smartphone. (I already have a great phone, the E815, but smartphones are another story altogether.)
I didn't realize that GSM would be any easier to get certified. I know that there's more interest for GSM products because of its global prevalence and availability in urban areas in the USA. When you say "our product," do you mean the Neo1973, OpenMoko, or some other specific item? Do you think there's a likelihood of a CDMA version in the near future, or is a CDMA iPhone more likely to show up first?