1. Release Windows 8.2 with the start menu fully restored, Metro apps able to run on the desktop mode and Metro only a primary UI option on touch screen PCs unless the user configures otherwise (either way should still be an option). 2. Release Windows RT 2 tablet in $200 and $300 32gb and 64gb options with full Microsoft Office. Microsoft needs to just flood the market with low cost, Kindle-like Windows tablets that'll run any traditional Windows app recompiled for ARM (another restriction that needs to go from Windows 8). 3. Attack the living room not just with the XBox One, but alternatives to protocols like AirPlay that are open, documented and patent-free for other vendors to implement. Microsoft can isolate Apple even more by returning to its roots of being of one of the most open big vendors in the industry.
I love quick fixes. The problem with Microsoft is the the company. We are asking why an army of clever; highly qualified and paid individuals could release so many failures...obvious failures before release.
Lets look at your fixes(Lipstick on a Pig) you address the unpopular Metro Interface failure, by having it there as a kludge; It was never about a start menu it was about creating an ecosystem with a consistent interface so they could force themselves into the mobile market(They use the word "ecosystem"), and cash in on the lockdown (store and hardware) to Microsoft product and services. The answer wasn't to use the advantages over mobile (10x power and screen real estate, good input, massive storage) they simply dumbed down a computer to a poor tablet. How about Microsoft accept its in competition and compete by producing the Best Desktop ever.
Then you bring up cost. Microsoft walk around with 70% gross margins while its partners do with 10%-20%, and not only is office unwanted they also charge for that too. Traditional Windows Apps do not work on a tablet. No wonder the devices are considered overprices and its partners are turning away. How about Microsoft change their business stratergy?
Bill Gates might have got into the living room with the console, but seriously its a $500, £430 in the UK and 500 Euros console (ignoring its anti-gamer launch) it is going against a $35 Device Chromecast. that already has an alternative to Airplay and works for iOS and Android. How about Microsoft stop selling hardware but sell software...hold on did Andriod just get another 6 Consoles.
The bottom line is a few quick fixes...and these aren't are not going to fix the problem.
Here is hoping the next CEO hires the Jolla and Neo900(N900 based GTA04 mod OpenMoko upgrade system board) team and they get back to making amazing hardware with a great OS. Then I wake up...
This is about replacing the Microsoft CEO not Nokia CEO. As much as we talk about smartphones here Elops most criminal cut was Meltemi a featurephone OS aimed at low hardware.
Nokia's shares have more than halved since he took over in 2010
If the rumours of The two Steves colluding to sell Nokia to Microsoft are true (Elop did his Job well. In fact too well as its so bad not even Microsoft want to buy it).
They also did some other stuff as well. They did some patent deals. It is suspected to make it useless to anyone else, and have formed a patent troll company together, a little like the ones Apple and Microsoft have.
Where is Tuppe666 to tell us how great Google is and how much Apple will rip Samsung off.
Hail Google!
I think what will become of smartphones is still very much in the air. Google still not have shown their smart watch neither as Apple. In fact we can only see a 3D rendering of the samsung watch. The only thing we can really say about Apple is they are launching a product in a very crowded market of already smart watches, some like pebble and Sony looking at a new revision already. That must worry investors and fanatics alike especially for an unproven idea. Its even worse for smartTV especially as Google seems to have finally solved that with chromecast. Have you tried it from your iPhone yet:). Hail Google indeed:)
Love the fact that Samsung have succeeded in brainwashing you into thinking its a Apple vs Samsung fight...genius marketing from Samsung...something Apple needs right now (Made in China).
If it's also a phone and doesn't need another phone to work, I want one.
I am more concerned that these devices seem to be full computers themselves. I am looking forward to a smartwatch, but having the large screen, with large battery, with large processing power in my big pockets. I would rather a watch be a dumb device and your smart device being your phone.
Remember Ballmer and MS only "in trouble" because their ever growing profits and income are growing quite as fast as they'd like. they aren't hurting at all
Nobody is suggesting that M$ is in any financial Difficulty. The "in trouble" is 5 quarters of PC sales down. The "in trouble" is missing the boat on massive computing shifts like mobile and cloud. The "in trouble" is its partners are walking away form Windows and announcing greater Android and Chrome products. The "in trouble" is its trying to be a services and devices company...and failing at both. The "in trouble" is those competitors it could crush with spare change or be having or being a monopoly, now have Billions of their own they are struggling to spend. The "in trouble" is suddenly both its cash cows of Windows and OS have competitive replacements at little or no cost.. The "in trouble" is its brand smells of failure. The "in trouble" is everything it had depends on its "windows" monopoly, and suddenly that is looking to be a legacy windows monopoly/Microsoft Office Insurance monopoly, and suddenly those are not not as relevant, and becoming less relevant.
Ballmer is not "in trouble" he is out the door, stabbed in the front by Bill no less, and its not because Microsoft is "in trouble" financially its just all that future computing cash looks to be flowing to other companies who aren't "in trouble"
Notice that Apple "sold" but Android "shipped." And the difference is important
No they are the same. Apple *ship* tablets as well. They argue that because they can guarantee a sale then ship=sale. The funniest thing though is this quarter was particularly disastrous for Apple they claim "reduction in channel inventory last quarter of 700,000 units versus a year-earlier build of 1.2 million units". *cough* not so much sold there, sounds like someone was channel stuffing:)
Bottom line is Apple sold means ship it always did. Better get used to the the new world order its not going to change any time soon.
Only one of their products- Ad Sense- makes over 90% their revenues. Maps, mail, cars, android, glasses etc dont pull their own weight.
Google have lots of products:) The fact that most of them generate their revenues through advertising. That is the business model not product. That is ignoring the fact that Google is diversifying quickly.
The moment he help up a brown product and used the word 'squirt' he should have been fired.
Maybe he should have been fired for killing PlaysForSure Maybe he should have been fired for saying 'The most common format of music on an iPod is "stolen"' Maybe he should have been fired for holding up that device 2 years after the iPod has the mp3 market He was Fired for pushing the stupid Zune interface onto everything.
The fact that it was Brown and had an unfortunately named feature is irrelevant.
The iPhone is indeed killing iPod sales. The iPad is destroying all growth in Mac sales. And Apple is quite happy with that. Steve Jobs himself said (and I'm quite sure he quoted someone else) that "if you don't cannibalise your products, someone else will".
The smartphone killed iPod sales. Price and competition is destroying the growth of iPhone; IPad and Mac Sales. Apple has its own problems right now with profits down; Market share down; Brand Value Down; Sales Down.
We will see what will happen on the 10th hopefully we will an example of Apple cannibalising its own products with a cheaper iPhone.
Praise for chromecast among whom? I think the corporate media really pushed the thing to where it got initial traction, but it appears that the development community is turning against it with the lockdown on unauthorized streaming content.
From Google "We’re excited to bring more content to Chromecast and would like to support all types of apps, including those for local content. It's still early days for the Google Cast SDK, which we just released in developer preview for early development and testing only. We expect that the SDK will continue to change before we launch out of developer preview, and want to provide a great experience for users and developers before making the SDK and additional apps more broadly available."
Apple is taking according to some figures 45% of all profits in the computer hardware market. With Dell and HP profits in that segment dropping,
Even if that is true you are ignoring the fact that both Intel and Microsoft comfortably sit on 70% Gross margins. Kind of the point here, and ignoring success from Chrome OS. Apple is failing in the computer market too with drops in sales. Interestingly Chrome OS selling well, Maybe Microsoft is not keeping Google in check.
One of Apple's primary advantages is their impressive level of integration, that they're in control of every single aspect of their business from the hardware,to the OS, to app development
They tried that the result was the Surface. Surface didn't sell. The whole reason they are here is they copied Apple. Apple have their own problems.
Unless you paired some of the unprofitable divisions with the profitable ones, things like Bing and the Surface would die immediately. While I'm sure that many Slashdot fans would cheer about that, it's probably not the best outcome for Microsoft.
Why? I don't think the article is about splitting them in terms of money, more in terms of *influence*. That said What is wrong with letting unsuccessful products die? Why Double Down instead of try something new?
You need to provide more argument than attacking the slashdot community as justification.
They should focus on their core competency: software. Expand existing business-oriented product-lines
Except Microsoft software is worse than the opposition, and more expensive. When they had a monopoly those things didn't matter, and still don't if your locked into their products. A major problem is Business was more important that the consumer market, now its the reverse, Microsoft desperately needs proper consumer products.
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so they can come in have a os that can run of most of the systems running 7 and 8 right now as well maybe some of the systems still on XP.
Also that can let mac os X run on real server hardware.
It would be lovely to see Apple seriously challenge Microsoft when they are weak in Computers, but it looks like they are willing to squander any advantage they have *again*, right now mac sales are dropping, and making computers into electronic devices might bleed more cash from your current customers, but it is clearly a losing strategy.
Apple could license their OS, Hell they could buy Dell, they just don't care about computers any more.
they seem to have their hands in too many cookie jars and unable to focus on anything lately
The whole point of why we are taking about breaking up Microsoft...Something Gates Lied under oath to protect against, is because Google *succeeded* in those very some of those very sectors that Microsoft failed so spectacularly in.
The reality is I suspect part of Googles success has been because it had been attacked from so many sides. Competition has made Google successful...Years without it, with a sudden need to, is how Microsoft got here.
Personally I think Google should think about taking on Amazon.
Its slightly off topic, but Google unlike Microsoft has been willing to kill off unsuccessful projects, and start again, rather than Microsoft's Double Down approach which only works if your a Monopoly, not the challenger.
Where is Tuppe666 to tell us how lololMicrosoft yayGoogle!
Why would I do that? You would have to be living in a hole not to see that Google is coming from a successful multiple product launch; Positive numbers for Chome OS and Docs...and it looks like they have cracked TV first while replacing Airplay. Microsoft have had nothing but bad news since SurfaceRT was announced a failure...Balmer kicked out (Bill Why?)....A gaggle of articles like this one of how to fix Microsoft failure in everything but Windows/Office and their replaced services even though it has a monopoly in Desktop Applications. In fact these articles are about Microsoft being unfixable in its current state.
The bottom line is Ironically they should probably focus on actual products and services rather than attack cowedly from behind a thin veil of secrecy in Scroogled.:)
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1. Release Windows 8.2 with the start menu fully restored, Metro apps able to run on the desktop mode and Metro only a primary UI option on touch screen PCs unless the user configures otherwise (either way should still be an option).
2. Release Windows RT 2 tablet in $200 and $300 32gb and 64gb options with full Microsoft Office. Microsoft needs to just flood the market with low cost, Kindle-like Windows tablets that'll run any traditional Windows app recompiled for ARM (another restriction that needs to go from Windows 8).
3. Attack the living room not just with the XBox One, but alternatives to protocols like AirPlay that are open, documented and patent-free for other vendors to implement. Microsoft can isolate Apple even more by returning to its roots of being of one of the most open big vendors in the industry.
I love quick fixes. The problem with Microsoft is the the company. We are asking why an army of clever; highly qualified and paid individuals could release so many failures...obvious failures before release.
Lets look at your fixes(Lipstick on a Pig) you address the unpopular Metro Interface failure, by having it there as a kludge; It was never about a start menu it was about creating an ecosystem with a consistent interface so they could force themselves into the mobile market(They use the word "ecosystem"), and cash in on the lockdown (store and hardware) to Microsoft product and services. The answer wasn't to use the advantages over mobile (10x power and screen real estate, good input, massive storage) they simply dumbed down a computer to a poor tablet. How about Microsoft accept its in competition and compete by producing the Best Desktop ever.
Then you bring up cost. Microsoft walk around with 70% gross margins while its partners do with 10%-20%, and not only is office unwanted they also charge for that too. Traditional Windows Apps do not work on a tablet. No wonder the devices are considered overprices and its partners are turning away. How about Microsoft change their business stratergy?
Bill Gates might have got into the living room with the console, but seriously its a $500, £430 in the UK and 500 Euros console (ignoring its anti-gamer launch) it is going against a $35 Device Chromecast. that already has an alternative to Airplay and works for iOS and Android. How about Microsoft stop selling hardware but sell software...hold on did Andriod just get another 6 Consoles.
The bottom line is a few quick fixes...and these aren't are not going to fix the problem.
Here is hoping the next CEO hires the Jolla and Neo900(N900 based GTA04 mod OpenMoko upgrade system board) team and they get back to making amazing hardware with a great OS.
Then I wake up...
This is about replacing the Microsoft CEO not Nokia CEO. As much as we talk about smartphones here Elops most criminal cut was Meltemi a featurephone OS aimed at low hardware.
Nokia's shares have more than halved since he took over in 2010
If the rumours of The two Steves colluding to sell Nokia to Microsoft are true (Elop did his Job well. In fact too well as its so bad not even Microsoft want to buy it).
They also did some other stuff as well. They did some patent deals. It is suspected to make it useless to anyone else, and have formed a patent troll company together, a little like the ones Apple and Microsoft have.
He is like Mr 4%, honestly, Steve is a huge improvement on him!
Windows Phone may never hit 4%, and they are both called Steve.
Where is Tuppe666 to tell us how great Google is and how much Apple will rip Samsung off.
Hail Google!
I think what will become of smartphones is still very much in the air. Google still not have shown their smart watch neither as Apple. In fact we can only see a 3D rendering of the samsung watch. The only thing we can really say about Apple is they are launching a product in a very crowded market of already smart watches, some like pebble and Sony looking at a new revision already. That must worry investors and fanatics alike especially for an unproven idea. Its even worse for smartTV especially as Google seems to have finally solved that with chromecast. Have you tried it from your iPhone yet :). Hail Google indeed :)
Love the fact that Samsung have succeeded in brainwashing you into thinking its a Apple vs Samsung fight...genius marketing from Samsung...something Apple needs right now (Made in China).
Why do some people seem to bummed that the screen isn't flexible?
Because without it being flexible it is limited to 2" by 2" display as opposed to a 6" by 2" display. Whatever you think of that.
If it's also a phone and doesn't need another phone to work, I want one.
I am more concerned that these devices seem to be full computers themselves. I am looking forward to a smartwatch, but having the large screen, with large battery, with large processing power in my big pockets. I would rather a watch be a dumb device and your smart device being your phone.
Remember Ballmer and MS only "in trouble" because their ever growing profits and income are growing quite as fast as they'd like. they aren't hurting at all
Nobody is suggesting that M$ is in any financial Difficulty. The "in trouble" is 5 quarters of PC sales down. The "in trouble" is missing the boat on massive computing shifts like mobile and cloud. The "in trouble" is its partners are walking away form Windows and announcing greater Android and Chrome products. The "in trouble" is its trying to be a services and devices company...and failing at both. The "in trouble" is those competitors it could crush with spare change or be having or being a monopoly, now have Billions of their own they are struggling to spend. The "in trouble" is suddenly both its cash cows of Windows and OS have competitive replacements at little or no cost.. The "in trouble" is its brand smells of failure. The "in trouble" is everything it had depends on its "windows" monopoly, and suddenly that is looking to be a legacy windows monopoly/Microsoft Office Insurance monopoly, and suddenly those are not not as relevant, and becoming less relevant.
Ballmer is not "in trouble" he is out the door, stabbed in the front by Bill no less, and its not because Microsoft is "in trouble" financially its just all that future computing cash looks to be flowing to other companies who aren't "in trouble"
Fact is: iPhone sales are growing. iPhone share of the phone market is growing. Mac share of the computer market is growing.
If you write *FACT* at the front you back it up with figures. iPhone share at the market is the lowest in years http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24257413 Last three quarters 21%,17%,13%. The mac sales are down -22% -2% -7% YonY over the last 3 quarters. Figures from Apples own published results http://investor.apple.com/results.cfm
I think the word you were looking for is Fiction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiction
Notice that Apple "sold" but Android "shipped." And the difference is important
No they are the same. Apple *ship* tablets as well. They argue that because they can guarantee a sale then ship=sale. The funniest thing though is this quarter was particularly disastrous for Apple they claim "reduction in channel inventory last quarter of 700,000 units versus a year-earlier build of 1.2 million units". *cough* not so much sold there, sounds like someone was channel stuffing :)
Bottom line is Apple sold means ship it always did. Better get used to the the new world order its not going to change any time soon.
neither did copying Google. Microsoft has lost / invested $17B in Bing! (quoting Paul Thurrott)
http://winsupersite.com/
Having a search engine is not Googles business model.
What the fuck are you reading?
Yeah, if you count 'other' at 40% of the market. And all Android.
I assume you are referring to Apples feeble Tablet Market share http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24253413 read the whole page; the first table they split by company...the second by OS.
That seems high. I think Apple has only sold about 500 million iOS devices, so it's failing miserably.
These are the figures for IDC for Tablets http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24253413 dropiing to 30% vs Android 63% and Smartphones http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=prUS24253413 which drops to 13% vs Androids 80% I'd say failing, maybe 10th September things will get interesting again.
Only one of their products- Ad Sense- makes over 90% their revenues. Maps, mail, cars, android, glasses etc dont pull their own weight.
Google have lots of products :) The fact that most of them generate their revenues through advertising. That is the business model not product. That is ignoring the fact that Google is diversifying quickly.
The moment he help up a brown product and used the word 'squirt' he should have been fired.
Maybe he should have been fired for killing PlaysForSure
Maybe he should have been fired for saying 'The most common format of music on an iPod is "stolen"'
Maybe he should have been fired for holding up that device 2 years after the iPod has the mp3 market
He was Fired for pushing the stupid Zune interface onto everything.
The fact that it was Brown and had an unfortunately named feature is irrelevant.
The iPhone is indeed killing iPod sales. The iPad is destroying all growth in Mac sales. And Apple is quite happy with that. Steve Jobs himself said (and I'm quite sure he quoted someone else) that "if you don't cannibalise your products, someone else will".
The smartphone killed iPod sales. Price and competition is destroying the growth of iPhone; IPad and Mac Sales. Apple has its own problems right now with profits down; Market share down; Brand Value Down; Sales Down.
We will see what will happen on the 10th hopefully we will an example of Apple cannibalising its own products with a cheaper iPhone.
Praise for chromecast among whom? I think the corporate media really pushed the thing to where it got initial traction, but it appears that the development community is turning against it with the lockdown on unauthorized streaming content.
From Google "We’re excited to bring more content to Chromecast and would like to support all types of apps, including those for local content. It's still early days for the Google Cast SDK, which we just released in developer preview for early development and testing only. We expect that the SDK will continue to change before we launch out of developer preview, and want to provide a great experience for users and developers before making the SDK and additional apps more broadly available."
http://www.muktware.com/5860/confirmed-chromecast-will-be-able-play-local-content-go-ahead-and-order-yours
Its on the front page of Slashdot...I find it a little peculiar you have not read it.
replacing Airplay.
Bwhahahahaha.
Try streaming a game. Or a local movie or song. From your phone. Or your computer.
Moron.
Chromecast
Apple is taking according to some figures 45% of all profits in the computer hardware market. With Dell and HP profits in that segment dropping,
Even if that is true you are ignoring the fact that both Intel and Microsoft comfortably sit on 70% Gross margins. Kind of the point here, and ignoring success from Chrome OS. Apple is failing in the computer market too with drops in sales. Interestingly Chrome OS selling well, Maybe Microsoft is not keeping Google in check.
One of Apple's primary advantages is their impressive level of integration, that they're in control of every single aspect of their business from the hardware,to the OS, to app development
They tried that the result was the Surface. Surface didn't sell. The whole reason they are here is they copied Apple. Apple have their own problems.
Unless you paired some of the unprofitable divisions with the profitable ones, things like Bing and the Surface would die immediately. While I'm sure that many Slashdot fans would cheer about that, it's probably not the best outcome for Microsoft.
Why? I don't think the article is about splitting them in terms of money, more in terms of *influence*. That said What is wrong with letting unsuccessful products die? Why Double Down instead of try something new?
You need to provide more argument than attacking the slashdot community as justification.
They should focus on their core competency: software. Expand existing business-oriented product-lines
Except Microsoft software is worse than the opposition, and more expensive. When they had a monopoly those things didn't matter, and still don't if your locked into their products. A major problem is Business was more important that the consumer market, now its the reverse, Microsoft desperately needs proper consumer products.
so they can come in have a os that can run of most of the systems running 7 and 8 right now as well maybe some of the systems still on XP.
Also that can let mac os X run on real server hardware.
It would be lovely to see Apple seriously challenge Microsoft when they are weak in Computers, but it looks like they are willing to squander any advantage they have *again*, right now mac sales are dropping, and making computers into electronic devices might bleed more cash from your current customers, but it is clearly a losing strategy.
Apple could license their OS, Hell they could buy Dell, they just don't care about computers any more.
they seem to have their hands in too many cookie jars and unable to focus on anything lately
The whole point of why we are taking about breaking up Microsoft...Something Gates Lied under oath to protect against, is because Google *succeeded* in those very some of those very sectors that Microsoft failed so spectacularly in.
The reality is I suspect part of Googles success has been because it had been attacked from so many sides. Competition has made Google successful...Years without it, with a sudden need to, is how Microsoft got here.
Personally I think Google should think about taking on Amazon.
Its slightly off topic, but Google unlike Microsoft has been willing to kill off unsuccessful projects, and start again, rather than Microsoft's Double Down approach which only works if your a Monopoly, not the challenger.
Where is Tuppe666 to tell us how lololMicrosoft yayGoogle!
Why would I do that? You would have to be living in a hole not to see that Google is coming from a successful multiple product launch; Positive numbers for Chome OS and Docs...and it looks like they have cracked TV first while replacing Airplay. Microsoft have had nothing but bad news since SurfaceRT was announced a failure...Balmer kicked out (Bill Why?)....A gaggle of articles like this one of how to fix Microsoft failure in everything but Windows/Office and their replaced services even though it has a monopoly in Desktop Applications. In fact these articles are about Microsoft being unfixable in its current state.
The bottom line is Ironically they should probably focus on actual products and services rather than attack cowedly from behind a thin veil of secrecy in Scroogled. :)