Don't you love it now when Apple haters get modded UP?
I am not sure they do, but the image of technical mind hippy revolutionary is long gone and replaced by a mega corporation prepared to lie, pay no tax towards hospitals and schools, steal money from consumers, proud of manufacture goods in china (including new reports this week...again) by badly treated by China's own standards workers, produce damaging to the environment products, and is incredibly litigious, on the backs of heavily marked up mid range products. if popular opinion is going against them maybe they should, I don't know..."Think Differently"
Actually apple came in and offered a way to break the amazon monopoly.
Apple Didn't offer DRM free ebooks at lower prices than Amazon...you know compete. Apple formed a price fixing cartel with publishers which is bad for consumers, and removing the ability to compete with Apple(Even if you are not buying Apple products)...the reason why Monopolises are bad.
Apple always seem to do so well in court. The timeframe has dropped to 10 years to five. The remedies to include "music, movies, television shows or other content," all gone. Apple having to allow Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and others to sell content through links to their own stores in their iOS apps, thereby avoiding Apple's 30 per cent tariff.
Apple is not going to be concerned about a few $. It is becoming increasingly necessary for content to move cross platform easily, without being treated as a criminal for removing trivial DRM, for all content and I include Applications. There is no technical reason for this today.
What makes anything Microsoft is doing inherently inferior to Google, Apple or Sony? Excluding, of course, the fact that Microsoft remains the company it's cool to hate.
Bless You. I am a little tired of whiny fans of bemoaning the fact that others do not admire their favourite mega corporation as much as they do. Microsoft deserve hate, they are a vile company, whole abuses stretch across two decades...except this is not what is happening here. What is happening is Microsoft is a Loser. Windows has had 5 quarters drop in sales...and that is set to continue. Its flagship products Windows 8 and Office 365 are largely criticised and have real competition in the form of Chrome Os/Android LibreOffice/Google Docs, Its Mobile strategy on both tablets and smartphones have made it a Joke. Ballmer has been Sacked...Nokia has been sold off for chump change Its Xbox strategy has been to be as anti-gamer as possible. Good news is slim on the ground...ans unsurprisingly most here do not see any change with Microsoft doubling down on their mobile strategy...one that is bad for most of its supporters here.
It will be in the old features such as durability, battery capacity, cost, and weight. This is where Nokia can excel. Thus if Microsoft can keep from putting MS office on everything...
Talking about Nokias soon to be released tablet the Sirius...basically a big Lumia Phone, with none too shabby specifications at least on paper, would at least been on topic.
Nokia as was is seriously gutted, its best people have been driven away or been sacked...anyone left will either be sacked by Microsoft...or assimilated by Microsoft famously know for snuffing talent. Nokia has killed off its Manufacturing and is simply another "Designed in" which translates as "Made in China"...In context of this article Office fails to sell to the consumer market.
Far too much debate on the internet goes into arguing about what words really mean. It is true that Android could be argued that it is simply another distribution based on a Linux kernel, and I would agree...and then call that version of Linux Android, but confusingly Linux is really a reference to GNU/Linux or Desktop Linux, shortened intentionally because Linus is awesome, or more likely out of "common usage" which has come about because its kind of catchy, even if you deep down think that GNU/Linux was probably a more deserving title.
...But then I suspect you probably knew that. Even if you didn't, there is nothing wrong with the English.
The AMD APUs really are a great melding of price vs performance....
Even though I loath the 70% gross margin that Intel insists on. They have http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI5MTI 20-30 people working on Linux Drivers vs 5 from AMD. There is more than one way to measure bang for buck. That said when I buy a separate graphics card it will be AMD.
You said it yourself, the phone came out 5 years ago. The latest software that runs on it is the version that came out nearly 3 years ago (4.2.1, released November 2010). You're delirious if you think that's worth anything as trade-in.
...and was sold until September 2012, and struggled with Apples latest software. Customers measure from time of purchase as does all consumer law. http://allthingsd.com/20120913/iphone-3gs-takes-a-dirt-nap/?mod=atdtweet. It sounds like customers who bought older...but still sold iphones have no resale value, and short support cycles.
Android, in your words, "looks like crap and sucks battery down" because it comes pre-loaded with tons of useless shit, most of which can't be uninstalled.
The reality of a security guard is your main job is...to lower insurance costs. The reasons if you need to be a serious criminal to want to go through a human, these robots don't have deterrent...but I suspect nothing like the costs. The fact is accountants will decide this one.
This, combined with the new iPhone (which I have seen and is AMAZING)
Why? Its unlikely that the latest iPhone 5S will be anything other that an incremental upgrade to the iPhone 5(and I personally would love a fingerprint reader on a phone), but the reality is its likely to be outdated at launch falling behind even more through competitors rapid update cycles...at least it might be in gold. The more interesting product is the 5C if it exists at all, and the only thing interesting is is the price!
we will find out in 10 days anyway. I for one am very excited:)
They're going to be re-selling used Apple stuff...Jobs would have hated that.
Jobs is dead, and nothing even during his final time at Apple planned for the rapid maturing of the smart-phone and Tablet market, and the fact that Apple is moving towards irrelevance, unless they compete. I think this is poor lock-in, but they need to step up, otherwise they are heading for irrelevance.
You could go http://glyde.com/http://www.nextworth.com/ or http://www.gazelle.com/iphone which will offer you *real* money instead of credit and at a higher rate than the $120-200 for 16GB iPhone 4 and 4S models and 16GB iPhone 5 in good condition could go for around $250. The only thing you lose is convenience. Its kind of sad but that tiny bit of convenience is worth a lot.
How to lock you into there ecosystem. I think the time as come for some kind of Government control so customers can easily move between platforms...and I mean all media Apps, books, music.
Its a great idea for those happily living in Apples police state, and great for Apple. At least those tied into getting the latest Apple products. Those further down the line will as always be worse off.
Throw them away? - they don't want people buying "old" iThingies, do they, that reduces the market for new ones. How green is that.
Hopefully they could reassemble in America, slap them in those plasitic cases we have seen for the iPhone 5C...or whatever they call it, and market it in china or more likely they will just sell sell 2nd hand phones.
And that's one of the nicer leashes out there. This whole being on a long leash thing just doesn't appeal to me. Call me old-fashioned, but when I pay a buying price, I expect to actually own the game.
There is no shortage of DRM games available (and open source ones). I am personally loving the daily promotions at https://indiegamestand.com/ which offer a daily deal of Direct Downloads cross platform goodness. Groupees also is a great site http://groupees.com/bm9 the link is actually available to the latest deal.
The real worry is not steam. Its Appl stores like those on iOS and Surface RT...and the bleed from these into Desktop Computers, as both Microsoft and Apple force their stores pretence of security....making them mandatory is just a matter of time.
I travel a lot around the world in 3rd world countries helping the poor. I don't think their challenge is in manufacturing or getting these out to the field. The challenge will be finding a way for the tablets to not be immediately sold for cash
Bill *Fuck your charity* Gates *I don't have to pay tax* agrees with you. I don't think you realise how offensive you are being, OLPC was born from from real world observation, and the benefits computing could bring first hand.
http://newsroom.cisco.com/feature-content?type=webcontent&articleId=1240339 "In 1980, Sheik Yamani of OPEC funded a center to help children in developing countries and Seymour Papert and I worked in Pakistan, Senegal, and Colombia. While the Media Lab was being built as an entity, physical as well as organizationally, we worked with kids in those countries. They were totally comfortable working in computers and computer programming – in this case, it was Apple IIs. They didn’t need the manuals, they didn’t need anything. So fast forward 20 years. The Media Lab had always had about 25% of its activity with children and learning. And after I directed the Media Lab for 20 years, somebody else came in as director and I said, “It’s my turn to do something.” And that’s when One Laptop per Child, or what was first called the Hundred Dollar Laptop, was born."
So I take it they've made the entire tablet out of the same material they make airplane black boxes out of? Because I've seen children destroy things that were made out of die-cast titanium without even realizing it, let alone feeling sorry about it.
http://olpc.tv/ shows the devices they look pretty solid interestingly I notice the thin screen protector doubles as a solar charger, but they look very solid.
Windows 8 is the best OS on the market today....the Lumia phones are solid and most of you zealots
Ironically zealot implies some kind of blind fanaticism irrespective of the facts. This topic is about Ballmer being pushed (stabbed in the front by Bill) because of 5 quarters of PC sales drops, and being invisible in mobile. On a side note you should have listened to you professor Linux won:)
Its going to use VP8 over H.264 too the reasons. " Chew says that VP8 will be able to deliver HD video to up to 10 people at a time, which is something H.264 couldn't handle. VP8 will also take up less bandwidth than H.264, allowing Hangouts to deliver better looking video at lower bit rates. And VP8 will also allow Google to begin transitioning Hangouts over to WebRTC, an emerging set of video and audio standards" http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/28/4668326/google-hangouts-getting-720p-hd-video-upgrade
You might want to keep up with the news... You really don't want to be a stale iHater.
The rise in stock price is though a buy back of its own shares, and if you bought shares on the low side you made a good chunk of change. Whatever you think of that. Its not the same as from new technology or even better current technology, or even buying it. The lack of these things causing the drop in the first place. Its just share price manipulation, not innovation; not new products; not sales
The bottom line is we are waiting on September the 10th, and then only to find out the price of the cheap iphone
Nah, he's going to get booted and he successor will ditch Windows Phone.
I doubt it, ignoring that it is good way to piss of its current customers...again. Microsoft has a deal in place that we can only assume is very pro-Microsoft, at the cost of a few billion to Microsoft. I would be astonished if Nokia don't have to give the money back, or at least pay an excessive termination fee. It also took Nokia ten months from announcement to its first Lumia phones, and that was before all the massive cuts. That is also ignoring all the nasty little patent dealings including setting up a troll company with Microsoft. That is ignoring all the people Elop has brought to Nokia from Microsoft. Nobody knows how much damage Elop has actually caused, but untangling themselves from Microsoft looks impossible. The fact that he has not been shown the door says everything.
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Don't you love it now when Apple haters get modded UP?
I am not sure they do, but the image of technical mind hippy revolutionary is long gone and replaced by a mega corporation prepared to lie, pay no tax towards hospitals and schools, steal money from consumers, proud of manufacture goods in china (including new reports this week...again) by badly treated by China's own standards workers, produce damaging to the environment products, and is incredibly litigious, on the backs of heavily marked up mid range products. if popular opinion is going against them maybe they should, I don't know..."Think Differently"
Actually apple came in and offered a way to break the amazon monopoly.
Apple Didn't offer DRM free ebooks at lower prices than Amazon...you know compete. Apple formed a price fixing cartel with publishers which is bad for consumers, and removing the ability to compete with Apple(Even if you are not buying Apple products)...the reason why Monopolises are bad.
Steve Jobs should have gone to jail.
Apple always seem to do so well in court. The timeframe has dropped to 10 years to five. The remedies to include "music, movies, television shows or other content," all gone. Apple having to allow Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and others to sell content through links to their own stores in their iOS apps, thereby avoiding Apple's 30 per cent tariff.
Apple is not going to be concerned about a few $. It is becoming increasingly necessary for content to move cross platform easily, without being treated as a criminal for removing trivial DRM, for all content and I include Applications. There is no technical reason for this today.
What makes anything Microsoft is doing inherently inferior to Google, Apple or Sony? Excluding, of course, the fact that Microsoft remains the company it's cool to hate.
Bless You. I am a little tired of whiny fans of bemoaning the fact that others do not admire their favourite mega corporation as much as they do. Microsoft deserve hate, they are a vile company, whole abuses stretch across two decades...except this is not what is happening here. What is happening is Microsoft is a Loser. Windows has had 5 quarters drop in sales...and that is set to continue. Its flagship products Windows 8 and Office 365 are largely criticised and have real competition in the form of Chrome Os/Android LibreOffice/Google Docs, Its Mobile strategy on both tablets and smartphones have made it a Joke. Ballmer has been Sacked...Nokia has been sold off for chump change Its Xbox strategy has been to be as anti-gamer as possible. Good news is slim on the ground...ans unsurprisingly most here do not see any change with Microsoft doubling down on their mobile strategy...one that is bad for most of its supporters here.
Does it run GNU/Linux?
It doesn't even let you run your own programs. Its a locked down tablet.
It will be in the old features such as durability, battery capacity, cost, and weight. This is where Nokia can excel. Thus if Microsoft can keep from putting MS office on everything...
Talking about Nokias soon to be released tablet the Sirius...basically a big Lumia Phone, with none too shabby specifications at least on paper, would at least been on topic.
Nokia as was is seriously gutted, its best people have been driven away or been sacked...anyone left will either be sacked by Microsoft...or assimilated by Microsoft famously know for snuffing talent. Nokia has killed off its Manufacturing and is simply another "Designed in" which translates as "Made in China"...In context of this article Office fails to sell to the consumer market.
Idiots! Gosh...
Far too much debate on the internet goes into arguing about what words really mean. It is true that Android could be argued that it is simply another distribution based on a Linux kernel, and I would agree...and then call that version of Linux Android, but confusingly Linux is really a reference to GNU/Linux or Desktop Linux, shortened intentionally because Linus is awesome, or more likely out of "common usage" which has come about because its kind of catchy, even if you deep down think that GNU/Linux was probably a more deserving title.
The AMD APUs really are a great melding of price vs performance....
Even though I loath the 70% gross margin that Intel insists on. They have http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI5MTI 20-30 people working on Linux Drivers vs 5 from AMD. There is more than one way to measure bang for buck. That said when I buy a separate graphics card it will be AMD.
Common trope by rich people. Let them eat cake.
You said it yourself, the phone came out 5 years ago. The latest software that runs on it is the version that came out nearly 3 years ago (4.2.1, released November 2010). You're delirious if you think that's worth anything as trade-in.
...and was sold until September 2012, and struggled with Apples latest software. Customers measure from time of purchase as does all consumer law. http://allthingsd.com/20120913/iphone-3gs-takes-a-dirt-nap/?mod=atdtweet. It sounds like customers who bought older...but still sold iphones have no resale value, and short support cycles.
Android, in your words, "looks like crap and sucks battery down" because it comes pre-loaded with tons of useless shit, most of which can't be uninstalled .
It is not true for me. The reality you now not only have the choice of Google Nexus phones, Manufactures are starting to offer Google Play Edition Phones which offer the stock Android edition http://www.stableytimes.com/news/htc-one-vs-galaxy-s4-google-play-edition-android-phones/ . Many people though enjoy the changes Manufactures bring.
You have the choice.
The reality of a security guard is your main job is...to lower insurance costs. The reasons if you need to be a serious criminal to want to go through a human, these robots don't have deterrent...but I suspect nothing like the costs. The fact is accountants will decide this one.
In case your confused about what a security guard really does this is a clip from mike leighs Naked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90sl94g7PE
This, combined with the new iPhone (which I have seen and is AMAZING)
Why? Its unlikely that the latest iPhone 5S will be anything other that an incremental upgrade to the iPhone 5(and I personally would love a fingerprint reader on a phone), but the reality is its likely to be outdated at launch falling behind even more through competitors rapid update cycles...at least it might be in gold. The more interesting product is the 5C if it exists at all, and the only thing interesting is is the price!
we will find out in 10 days anyway. I for one am very excited :)
They're going to be re-selling used Apple stuff...Jobs would have hated that.
Jobs is dead, and nothing even during his final time at Apple planned for the rapid maturing of the smart-phone and Tablet market, and the fact that Apple is moving towards irrelevance, unless they compete. I think this is poor lock-in, but they need to step up, otherwise they are heading for irrelevance.
"Yes, I'd like to trade mine in for a Galaxy S4."
You could go http://glyde.com/ http://www.nextworth.com/ or http://www.gazelle.com/iphone which will offer you *real* money instead of credit and at a higher rate than the $120-200 for 16GB iPhone 4 and 4S models and 16GB iPhone 5 in good condition could go for around $250. The only thing you lose is convenience. Its kind of sad but that tiny bit of convenience is worth a lot.
How to lock you into there ecosystem. I think the time as come for some kind of Government control so customers can easily move between platforms...and I mean all media Apps, books, music.
Its a great idea for those happily living in Apples police state, and great for Apple. At least those tied into getting the latest Apple products. Those further down the line will as always be worse off.
Throw them away? - they don't want people buying "old" iThingies, do they, that reduces the market for new ones. How green is that.
Hopefully they could reassemble in America, slap them in those plasitic cases we have seen for the iPhone 5C...or whatever they call it, and market it in china or more likely they will just sell sell 2nd hand phones.
It's your money.
...and you own a surface tablet.
And that's one of the nicer leashes out there. This whole being on a long leash thing just doesn't appeal to me. Call me old-fashioned, but when I pay a buying price, I expect to actually own the game.
There is no shortage of DRM games available (and open source ones). I am personally loving the daily promotions at https://indiegamestand.com/ which offer a daily deal of Direct Downloads cross platform goodness. Groupees also is a great site http://groupees.com/bm9 the link is actually available to the latest deal.
The real worry is not steam. Its Appl stores like those on iOS and Surface RT...and the bleed from these into Desktop Computers, as both Microsoft and Apple force their stores pretence of security....making them mandatory is just a matter of time.
I travel a lot around the world in 3rd world countries helping the poor. I don't think their challenge is in manufacturing or getting these out to the field. The challenge will be finding a way for the tablets to not be immediately sold for cash
Bill *Fuck your charity* Gates *I don't have to pay tax* agrees with you. I don't think you realise how offensive you are being, OLPC was born from from real world observation, and the benefits computing could bring first hand.
http://newsroom.cisco.com/feature-content?type=webcontent&articleId=1240339 "In 1980, Sheik Yamani of OPEC funded a center to help children in developing countries and Seymour Papert and I worked in Pakistan, Senegal, and Colombia. While the Media Lab was being built as an entity, physical as well as organizationally, we worked with kids in those countries. They were totally comfortable working in computers and computer programming – in this case, it was Apple IIs. They didn’t need the manuals, they didn’t need anything. So fast forward 20 years. The Media Lab had always had about 25% of its activity with children and learning. And after I directed the Media Lab for 20 years, somebody else came in as director and I said, “It’s my turn to do something.” And that’s when One Laptop per Child, or what was first called the Hundred Dollar Laptop, was born."
So I take it they've made the entire tablet out of the same material they make airplane black boxes out of? Because I've seen children destroy things that were made out of die-cast titanium without even realizing it, let alone feeling sorry about it.
http://olpc.tv/ shows the devices they look pretty solid interestingly I notice the thin screen protector doubles as a solar charger, but they look very solid.
Windows 8 is the best OS on the market today....the Lumia phones are solid and most of you zealots
Ironically zealot implies some kind of blind fanaticism irrespective of the facts. This topic is about Ballmer being pushed (stabbed in the front by Bill) because of 5 quarters of PC sales drops, and being invisible in mobile. On a side note you should have listened to you professor Linux won :)
Its going to use VP8 over H.264 too the reasons. " Chew says that VP8 will be able to deliver HD video to up to 10 people at a time, which is something H.264 couldn't handle. VP8 will also take up less bandwidth than H.264, allowing Hangouts to deliver better looking video at lower bit rates. And VP8 will also allow Google to begin transitioning Hangouts over to WebRTC, an emerging set of video and audio standards" http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/28/4668326/google-hangouts-getting-720p-hd-video-upgrade
You might want to keep up with the news... You really don't want to be a stale iHater.
The rise in stock price is though a buy back of its own shares, and if you bought shares on the low side you made a good chunk of change. Whatever you think of that. Its not the same as from new technology or even better current technology, or even buying it. The lack of these things causing the drop in the first place. Its just share price manipulation, not innovation; not new products; not sales
The bottom line is we are waiting on September the 10th, and then only to find out the price of the cheap iphone
Nah, he's going to get booted and he successor will ditch Windows Phone.
I doubt it, ignoring that it is good way to piss of its current customers...again. Microsoft has a deal in place that we can only assume is very pro-Microsoft, at the cost of a few billion to Microsoft. I would be astonished if Nokia don't have to give the money back, or at least pay an excessive termination fee. It also took Nokia ten months from announcement to its first Lumia phones, and that was before all the massive cuts. That is also ignoring all the nasty little patent dealings including setting up a troll company with Microsoft. That is ignoring all the people Elop has brought to Nokia from Microsoft. Nobody knows how much damage Elop has actually caused, but untangling themselves from Microsoft looks impossible. The fact that he has not been shown the door says everything.