They recently brought PM Man Bill "I have a charity" Gates our (again) to explain why he (and they) did not have to pay Tax...You know the sort of thing that pays for Education (and Hospitals..roads...etc).
Giant douchebag US megacorp calls out anoother giant douchebag US megacorp for being giant douchebags. Free world doesn't care, wherever that is. Next up, the weather.
Nothing like as close. Aged PC dinosaur and convicted monopoly successfully got a new PC companies hardware products effectively banned for using patents that allow interacting with its own proprietary software. It did so by only *one* patent of nine being upheld.
This is about that ban not being upheld...and the claims of deals being done behind closed doors with of all people the US customs. So nothing like you said.
I have never done any of this, but you have to wonder if this is a home goal twinned with what should be an antitrust case. Google have dropped activesync.http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413283,00.asp (Anyone else forgot how pro Microsoft PCmag was)
The most ironic part of this Windows Phone users used to get gmail messages instantaneously...and now they don't...like Windows Phone was not already second class technology.
Technology(sic) like this should be used to give additional benefits to Microsoft Users not used to attack competing companies(and its own customers) in markets where...lets be honest its product continues to fail after 3 years (I remember when they had 10% of the smart-phone market)
Trying to Bullying companies as large...rich...popular...successful...like...Google is just stupid(Apple have behind closed doors agreement). Insane when their product occupies 75% of the market and yours occupies 3%.
The bottom line is even if these product were banned...Windows Phone would have remained a failure, not its a little more likely to continue to be.
Let's be honest people. 41MP is amazing. I still won't be getting one since it runs WiPh, but the camera is amazing. Period. End of Story.
From he article "4.5-inch, 1,280-by-768 screen. Lumia 1020 is powered by a dual-core, 1.5-GHz Qualcomm MSM8960"...With the new standard of 5" 1080p quad-core phones especially considering this is twinned with "a high resolution camera" seems really stupid, and from its competitors HTC One(and Butterfly); Samsung Galaxy S4 and Xperia Z(L) as well as an army of cheap Chinese phones Selling at $200 I've been looking at a Neo N003 at $145
I would guess half of the negative Windows Phone comments on here are people who probably didn't even pick up a device for 2 minutes. Just fashionable to hate on MS here it seems.
I know your just paid to promote the dead platform Windows Phone...But really attacking potential customers is not the way. Windows Phone was announced February 15, 2010, and released publicly on November 8, 2010. Its not a new product...its been a failure for a long time, its very heavily promoted; Its just not very good.
Here is the 125 reasons not to buy a Windows Phone http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44034 and people didn't. Microsoft simply needs a better product, and sell it on those features. Promotional posts are just insulting.
I've ignored your drivel about a smartphone replacing the Desktop Computer...even though I agree the smartphone is a personal computer, I find them complementary devices.
Looking at your statement "PC has been around now for over 20 years. It no longer possesses excitement and consumer appeal." It needs to generate it. It needs to lower prices...produce compelling exciting machines, Where is the sambuntu +android compatible 8 core ARM laptop with 4X displays for under $200. The only think old is Microsoft + Intel (and Apple)...and Ironically copying Apples losing (vastly profitable) strategy. Looks like Android Desktop computers for us whatever you think of that.
The PC is here to stay. What we are seeing is a longer life cycle. There is no need to update the hardware these days,
Hold on there why does anyone say this....I want more powerful hardware and can use it. Where is my 4X 1080P 24" touchscreen monitor, with keyboard with LED keys with these futuristic storage sizes with android compatibility...at a price I can afford. Microsoft turned the computer into a tablet...and Apple turned it into a none upgradable cylinder. At least they are still sat on massive profit margins while sales shrink, but who cares its a duopoly Anyway.
pc owners are the producers of content on that computer network, not tablet users
Except its not true...real keyboard and mouse have uses, but the rise of pen+drawing screen is actually a better input for artists, hell anything where a pad beats static computer.
As for an iPad being better for consumption....seriously my 24" monitor is so much better for consumption than a tablet for *anything* videos, web pages. games...
The main difference is the trade between portability at the lack of some screen estate, power, storage, ease of input and it just happens in most use cases these are not as important.
No mention of the fact that Intel and Microsoft are still bleeding customers on gross margins of 70%. Computers have to compete against other computing devices, and they are not doing so on price. Windows 8 being a tablet OS is the nail in the coffin.
> The problem is that most phone vendors (basically all except Google) never update the Android system after the phone is released.
Even Google doesn't keep Android up to date on older devices. The once-flagship Nexus One, introduced in 2010, only got official updates for about a year, taking it from version 2.1 to 2.3.6.
That is a strange way of measuring time. It was launched January 10 and only had its operating system replaced 13th Novemer 2012...so Almost 3 Years, more than say an iPad.
You are a serial liar. "Mac sales are being crushed". That is sort of terminology is not used for a product on an annual cycle.
Mac Units: 2Q2013 3952k 2Q2012 4017k
1Q2013 4061k 1Q2013 4017k
Their sales on Macs are flat. There is no "more revenue from less units" nonsense. If you are reading Apple reports they quote year over year statistics and they do so for a very good reason, their products have 20% deviations between different quarters every year. That means nothing other than their products are cyclical. Pretending that's not the case and talking about quarter over quarter numbers is lying.
Mac Units 5198 Q12012----seriously is this figure for last year so hard to pick out! 4061 Q12013 Hence a drop year on year of about a quarter of its sales of 22%
4017 Q22012 3952 Q2 2013 Hence a drop year on year of a more manageable 2%
You clearly an idiot(or simply lying) you can't even read a Data Sheet...never reply to anything I write again...you are now embarrassing yourself. Maybe you should go to adult learning class or something.
I didn't say they were false, I said there were highly misleading and not the way anyone does comparisons in a company with an annual sales cycle.
No you called me a serial lair...and I re-quote "we have more of your made up statistics" because the the truth does not reflect the image you want to portray...and then lie about your actions. In reality we notice Apple is making more revenue from less units...which sounds like Apples usual sacrificing market share for profits. Good for them...sucks for its customers, who already pay too much for their mid-range products, better buy a Lenovo...everyone else is.
So the greatest accomplishment of GNOME 3 is to be able to look and feel like GNOME2. Doesn't sound like an improvement to me.
Yet is does show how *flexible* Gnome 3 is. It also allows those who prefer a Gnome 2 look can have one without installing a replacement, and the pursuit of better interface can continue without punishing users in the transitional period.
Since then I've bought a Mac and never been happier.
Ironically I have used Mac regular, and back 8 years ago would recommend them (when the top end where reasonable value and their software shined), today they look and run like overpriced dinosaurs, with gimmicks like cylinder cases with no real innovation. Now I use Gnome or XFCE and both are better, and its lightening fast. In short the MAC is overpriced brand trash.
I'm not even alone Mac sales are being crushed dropping 22% and 2% over last two quarters, yet Linux usage continues to rise.
Your trolling. The topic is about Gnome Shell (Default) vs Desktop Metaphor (Note I don't add traditional before it) and not about Apple who have lets be honest have abandoned their Desktop.
I know this will invite a flame or three, but the proper response here is Mate.
Mate http://mate-desktop.org/about/ "MATE is a fork of GNOME 2. It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop to Linux users using traditional metaphors."
Cinnamon (although same as Gnome 3 with extensions) http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ "Traditional layout, advanced features, easy to use, powerful, flexible."
Can you not see the difference. The real question is why use Mate.
Sounds like you're not the intended demographic for Apple. You need more hipster or fanboi to properly appreciate the lost value of the Apple product.
Probably not, but his point is that Apple used to have long support cycles, and good second hand value. Traditionally many Apple owners benefited from this, and justified some of its premium price for a mid-range product. The effects of reduced support cycles due to its expanded product lines...and move towards disposable electronics, removed a lot of value from its products. A move that will affect the Apple faithful more than these new hipster or fanboi you talk about who if anything have the latest Samsung.
And as I stated, most users don't care about or even know what those things are.
You don't think users want to BYOD...or not have strangers looking through photos of their children...or help a family member with a technical problem in another state.
I think that covers *all* users. Perhaps instead of stating things you should think them through. these things are available at no cost on linux, and out of the box. Its a shame windows is so far behind.
Install Linux on random hardware with the same (lack of) quality assurance PC manufacturers do, and put the result in the hands of average users, and we'll se how reliable that will be.
They do already...on Phones, and tablets, and the results are spectacular.
Most users will not need or ever use the additional advanced features in Windows 8 Pro.
From http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/compare from the Website 1) Provides enhanced data protection with BitLocker and BitLocker To Go to help keep your information secure. 2) Enables you to host a Remote Desktop Connection on your own PC so you can connect to it when you're using a different PC. 3) Connects to your corporate or school network with Domain join.
Linux Users are offered these features in *every* version without the $130 markup.
I do not oppose OSS in any way but you are correct that usually it just isn't that important for me that the source code is available. I will use the software which makes the computer most enjoyable to use.
Except Windows is not *enjoyable*; its universally hated. Apple users routinely use subjective phrasing around their niche products to cover up the fact that they are measurably worse than the opposition...it shows how far Windows has fallen for its fanatics to do the same. Except even subjective things...we can argue that most agree where it counts *money* are not interested in Windows. Its still a monopoly on the Desktop (which they are selling less for 5 quarters now)...but its universal interface Metro Hated *everywhere* it can't sell its Phones or Tablets...massively subsidised and discounted.
If your not interested in open source...then you are not interested in security, support, lifetime of software something as a User I am very much interested in...and in context of this article what 25% of users worldwide (40% on Net Statistics) who still use XP should have been interested in.
Slashdot Mirror
They recently brought PM Man Bill "I have a charity" Gates our (again) to explain why he (and they) did not have to pay Tax...You know the sort of thing that pays for Education (and Hospitals..roads...etc).
This Disgusts Me
Giant douchebag US megacorp calls out anoother giant douchebag US megacorp for being giant douchebags. Free world doesn't care, wherever that is. Next up, the weather.
Nothing like as close. Aged PC dinosaur and convicted monopoly successfully got a new PC companies hardware products effectively banned for using patents that allow interacting with its own proprietary software. It did so by only *one* patent of nine being upheld.
This is about that ban not being upheld...and the claims of deals being done behind closed doors with of all people the US customs. So nothing like you said.
I have never done any of this, but you have to wonder if this is a home goal twinned with what should be an antitrust case. Google have dropped activesync.http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2413283,00.asp (Anyone else forgot how pro Microsoft PCmag was)
The most ironic part of this Windows Phone users used to get gmail messages instantaneously...and now they don't...like Windows Phone was not already second class technology.
Technology(sic) like this should be used to give additional benefits to Microsoft Users not used to attack competing companies(and its own customers) in markets where...lets be honest its product continues to fail after 3 years (I remember when they had 10% of the smart-phone market)
Trying to Bullying companies as large...rich...popular...successful...like...Google is just stupid(Apple have behind closed doors agreement). Insane when their product occupies 75% of the market and yours occupies 3%.
The bottom line is even if these product were banned...Windows Phone would have remained a failure, not its a little more likely to continue to be.
http://www.linux.com/news/enterprise/biz-enterprise/485159-a-conversation-with-linus-torvalds
"I think I will call 3.11 Linux for Workgroups."
Let's be honest people. 41MP is amazing. I still won't be getting one since it runs WiPh, but the camera is amazing. Period. End of Story.
From he article "4.5-inch, 1,280-by-768 screen. Lumia 1020 is powered by a dual-core, 1.5-GHz Qualcomm MSM8960" ...With the new standard of 5" 1080p quad-core phones especially considering this is twinned with "a high resolution camera" seems really stupid, and from its competitors HTC One(and Butterfly); Samsung Galaxy S4 and Xperia Z(L) as well as an army of cheap Chinese phones Selling at $200 I've been looking at a Neo N003 at $145
I would guess half of the negative Windows Phone comments on here are people who probably didn't even pick up a device for 2 minutes. Just fashionable to hate on MS here it seems.
I know your just paid to promote the dead platform Windows Phone...But really attacking potential customers is not the way. Windows Phone was announced February 15, 2010, and released publicly on November 8, 2010. Its not a new product...its been a failure for a long time, its very heavily promoted; Its just not very good.
Here is the 125 reasons not to buy a Windows Phone http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44034 and people didn't. Microsoft simply needs a better product, and sell it on those features. Promotional posts are just insulting.
I've ignored your drivel about a smartphone replacing the Desktop Computer...even though I agree the smartphone is a personal computer, I find them complementary devices.
Looking at your statement "PC has been around now for over 20 years. It no longer possesses excitement and consumer appeal." It needs to generate it. It needs to lower prices...produce compelling exciting machines, Where is the sambuntu +android compatible 8 core ARM laptop with 4X displays for under $200. The only think old is Microsoft + Intel (and Apple)...and Ironically copying Apples losing (vastly profitable) strategy. Looks like Android Desktop computers for us whatever you think of that.
The PC is here to stay. What we are seeing is a longer life cycle. There is no need to update the hardware these days,
Hold on there why does anyone say this....I want more powerful hardware and can use it. Where is my 4X 1080P 24" touchscreen monitor, with keyboard with LED keys with these futuristic storage sizes with android compatibility...at a price I can afford. Microsoft turned the computer into a tablet...and Apple turned it into a none upgradable cylinder. At least they are still sat on massive profit margins while sales shrink, but who cares its a duopoly Anyway.
No wonder we are all running to android.
pc owners are the producers of content on that computer network, not tablet users
Except its not true...real keyboard and mouse have uses, but the rise of pen+drawing screen is actually a better input for artists, hell anything where a pad beats static computer.
As for an iPad being better for consumption....seriously my 24" monitor is so much better for consumption than a tablet for *anything* videos, web pages. games...
The main difference is the trade between portability at the lack of some screen estate, power, storage, ease of input and it just happens in most use cases these are not as important.
No mention of the fact that Intel and Microsoft are still bleeding customers on gross margins of 70%. Computers have to compete against other computing devices, and they are not doing so on price. Windows 8 being a tablet OS is the nail in the coffin.
> The problem is that most phone vendors (basically all except Google) never update the Android system after the phone is released.
Even Google doesn't keep Android up to date on older devices. The once-flagship Nexus One, introduced in 2010, only got official updates for about a year, taking it from version 2.1 to 2.3.6.
That is a strange way of measuring time. It was launched January 10 and only had its operating system replaced 13th Novemer 2012...so Almost 3 Years, more than say an iPad.
You are a serial liar. "Mac sales are being crushed". That is sort of terminology is not used for a product on an annual cycle.
Mac Units:
2Q2013 3952k
2Q2012 4017k
1Q2013 4061k
1Q2013 4017k
Their sales on Macs are flat. There is no "more revenue from less units" nonsense. If you are reading Apple reports they quote year over year statistics and they do so for a very good reason, their products have 20% deviations between different quarters every year. That means nothing other than their products are cyclical. Pretending that's not the case and talking about quarter over quarter numbers is lying.
No looks again
Q1 2013 Unaudited Summary Data http://images.apple.com/pr/pdf/q1fy13datasum.pdf [apple.com]
Q2 2013 Unaudited Summary Data http://images.apple.com/pr/pdf/q2fy13datasum2.pdf [apple.com]
Mac Units
5198 Q12012----seriously is this figure for last year so hard to pick out!
4061 Q12013
Hence a drop year on year of about a quarter of its sales of 22%
4017 Q22012
3952 Q2 2013
Hence a drop year on year of a more manageable 2%
You clearly an idiot(or simply lying) you can't even read a Data Sheet...never reply to anything I write again...you are now embarrassing yourself. Maybe you should go to adult learning class or something.
I didn't say they were false, I said there were highly misleading and not the way anyone does comparisons in a company with an annual sales cycle.
No you called me a serial lair...and I re-quote "we have more of your made up statistics" because the the truth does not reflect the image you want to portray...and then lie about your actions. In reality we notice Apple is making more revenue from less units...which sounds like Apples usual sacrificing market share for profits. Good for them...sucks for its customers, who already pay too much for their mid-range products, better buy a Lenovo...everyone else is.
Seriously though think about your behaviour.
Well we have more of your made up statistics.
I use Apples Earning Releases for my statistics. You should be able to see them in Firefox.
Q1 2013 Unaudited Summary Data http://images.apple.com/pr/pdf/q1fy13datasum.pdf
Q2 2013 Unaudited Summary Data http://images.apple.com/pr/pdf/q2fy13datasum2.pdf
Year on Year Change for Units was down 22% and 2% as previously stated.
No apology necessary.
So the greatest accomplishment of GNOME 3 is to be able to look and feel like GNOME2.
Doesn't sound like an improvement to me.
Yet is does show how *flexible* Gnome 3 is. It also allows those who prefer a Gnome 2 look can have one without installing a replacement, and the pursuit of better interface can continue without punishing users in the transitional period.
Since then I've bought a Mac and never been happier.
Ironically I have used Mac regular, and back 8 years ago would recommend them (when the top end where reasonable value and their software shined), today they look and run like overpriced dinosaurs, with gimmicks like cylinder cases with no real innovation. Now I use Gnome or XFCE and both are better, and its lightening fast. In short the MAC is overpriced brand trash.
I'm not even alone Mac sales are being crushed dropping 22% and 2% over last two quarters, yet Linux usage continues to rise.
Your trolling. The topic is about Gnome Shell (Default) vs Desktop Metaphor (Note I don't add traditional before it) and not about Apple who have lets be honest have abandoned their Desktop.
I know this will invite a flame or three, but the proper response here is Mate.
Mate http://mate-desktop.org/about/
"MATE is a fork of GNOME 2.
It provides an intuitive and attractive desktop to Linux users using traditional metaphors."
Cinnamon (although same as Gnome 3 with extensions) http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/
"Traditional layout, advanced features, easy to use, powerful, flexible."
Can you not see the difference. The real question is why use Mate.
Enjoy your iPod Killer. There aren't any.
Reality check complete.
It was the Android Phone :) (and very sensibly the iPhone)
Sounds like you're not the intended demographic for Apple. You need more hipster or fanboi to properly appreciate the lost value of the Apple product.
Probably not, but his point is that Apple used to have long support cycles, and good second hand value. Traditionally many Apple owners benefited from this, and justified some of its premium price for a mid-range product. The effects of reduced support cycles due to its expanded product lines...and move towards disposable electronics, removed a lot of value from its products. A move that will affect the Apple faithful more than these new hipster or fanboi you talk about who if anything have the latest Samsung.
And as I stated, most users don't care about or even know what those things are.
You don't think users want to BYOD...or not have strangers looking through photos of their children...or help a family member with a technical problem in another state.
I think that covers *all* users. Perhaps instead of stating things you should think them through. these things are available at no cost on linux, and out of the box. Its a shame windows is so far behind.
Install Linux on random hardware with the same (lack of) quality assurance PC manufacturers do, and put the result in the hands of average users, and we'll se how reliable that will be.
They do already...on Phones, and tablets, and the results are spectacular.
Most users will not need or ever use the additional advanced features in Windows 8 Pro.
From http://windows.microsoft.com/en-ca/windows/compare from the Website
1) Provides enhanced data protection with BitLocker and BitLocker To Go to help keep your information secure.
2) Enables you to host a Remote Desktop Connection on your own PC so you can connect to it when you're using a different PC.
3) Connects to your corporate or school network with Domain join.
Linux Users are offered these features in *every* version without the $130 markup.
I do not oppose OSS in any way but you are correct that usually it just isn't that important for me that the source code is available. I will use the software which makes the computer most enjoyable to use.
Except Windows is not *enjoyable*; its universally hated. Apple users routinely use subjective phrasing around their niche products to cover up the fact that they are measurably worse than the opposition...it shows how far Windows has fallen for its fanatics to do the same. Except even subjective things...we can argue that most agree where it counts *money* are not interested in Windows. Its still a monopoly on the Desktop (which they are selling less for 5 quarters now)...but its universal interface Metro Hated *everywhere* it can't sell its Phones or Tablets...massively subsidised and discounted.
If your not interested in open source...then you are not interested in security, support, lifetime of software something as a User I am very much interested in...and in context of this article what 25% of users worldwide (40% on Net Statistics) who still use XP should have been interested in.
Even if Linux supports AMD CPUs better than Windows does, Windows might still support AMD GPUs better.
Hold it there cowboy :) http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/06/29/2235257/amdati-drops-windows-xp-support AMD/ATI Drops Windows XP Support so no.
AMD hardware sucks with Linux.
I run CentOS in an emulator.
Ironically Linux KVM(amongst Others) supports AMD-V http://searchservervirtualization.techtarget.com/definition/AMD-V .
Perhaps if you spent less time making random allegations against hardware you would understand the technology a little better.