That's also why I like Win and Mac: when I pay, I get a premium OS, with less bugs, missing features and crashes, than I have with a Linux desktop distro.
A quick look at my computer uptime 21:45:37 up 4 days, 22:40, 2 users, load average: 0.66, 0.60, 0.58
The fact that you are marked informative is quite scary...the fact that that you did so using the word "premium" shows how far we have fallen in terms of real measures, and how much we live with unsubstantiated bullshit terms.
From a study http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/03/macbook_pro_most_reliable_windows_pc/ On 37,000 Apple and Windows computers still on sale(new) it recorded 224,144 crashes, 250,791 non-responsive events (in which an app hangs for five seconds or longer) and 84,251 blue screen of death incidents in three months.
A Linux user would not call that a "Premium" they would call it "Trash"
This model seems to work on Steam and TODAY nobody is bad-mouthing Steam after over a decade of DRM-encumbered operation.
I am against DRM on steam(and am far from being alone)...and many include myself bad mouth it. I would rather all my games were DRM free. I buy from steam because they are *cheap*...in my mind disposable, because I am prepared to pay less money from a game I license instead of own(yes I am playing hard and fast with English what of it).
The difference is DRM on the xbox is that games are $60...and come on physical media.
The bottom line is this has nothing to do with the article in question, which is about spying on customers and shovelling targeted ads down their throats, on a device costing more than the opposition who don't.
Why are there even ads on the Xbox? After all you've:
A) Bought the console
B) Bought some games (presumably)
C) Quite possibly bought a gold membership
Now, I can understand something like when you go to the store to have maybe a little promo of "what's new" but beyond that, ads are unacceptable.
Except you don't buy anything anymore you don't own your xbox...games...service you license them. Suck it up or by an alternative product of which there is many. I have bought an OuYa.
Mr. Penn was put in charge of innocently titled “strategic and special projects” its nice that his work bulldozing enemies of the Clintons is now but to work slinging shit at Google.
Ironically this is another article about Bing being shoved down peoples throats in another Duopoly rather than competing on old fashioned things like competition. Perhaps Microsoft Time and Money would be spent serving its hostages.
What is most bizarre is this about this is LXDE is looking great, a Desktop we don't hear about often enough, and is looking like a desktop I would use...half this discussion is about lets be honest a license subtlety I don't care about.
The docs directory on github is essentially empty. If they can't even provide a formal specification they are no better than reverse engineered versions of airplay. What a fucking joke.
Unfortunately I and I suspect most here are in the camp of understanding *code*(especially if its well designed) over a *formal specification*, and had a working implementation. The whole point of Airplay is to replace it, because its a proprietary protocol stack/suite developed by the most litigious company on the planet.
HDMI is proprietary too, but I'd have a hard time arguing that a competing open standard would improve the current landscape.
The HDMI Founders are Hitachi, Matsushita Electric Industrial (Panasonic/National/Quasar), Philips, Silicon Image, Sony, Thomson, RCA and Toshiba.[15] Digital Content Protection, LLC provides HDCP (which was developed by Intel) for HDMI.[16] HDMI has the support of motion picture producers Fox, Universal, Warner Bros. and Disney, along with system operators DirecTV, EchoStar (Dish Network) and CableLabs unlike AirPlay (previously called AirTunes when it was for audio only is a proprietary protocol stack/suite developed by Apple Inc.
Did you spot the chasm of difference between the two.
While it's great an alternative to AirPlay had been released, I doubt it'll get much support from accessory manufacturers unless the likes of Samsung decide to integrate it with their phones.
Right now Apple accessories that used to be *everywhere* are increasingly only seen as sad sale items, in those wire bins by the counter collecting discount stickers, after Apple shafted its customers with another proprietary connector...at least they get to give *more* money to Apple...and they do need it, avoiding paying any tax in the UK much of cost them a small fortune in..accountants.
Accessory Manufacturers are desperate to tap into none apple products simply because they outnumber Apple products six times. Recently I am seeing those same shelves occupied with Apple products filled with those with *open*(yes I am playing hard and loose with the word-Pretend your reading this on Ars) standards like Bluetiooth, USB...and even old 2.5mm Headset Jack.
The days of the iPod are over...any Apple proprietary anything (protocol stack/suite; connector...seriously anything) is a strategic disadvantage on their part.
The joke is about creating a standard to replace multiple incompatible standards...simply adds to the standard. This is about pragmatism; its about creating an open version of Apple Inc proprietary protocol stack/suite.
If it's not compatible with AirPlay what's the point? My Linux music server already supports AirPlay, so does my MythTV, so does my iPhone. Why do we need yet a different new standard, especially if it doesn't work with existing devices?
I don't think you understand (Well actually I think you do) from Wikipedia "AirPlay (previously called AirTunes when it was for audio only[1]) is a proprietary protocol stack/suite developed by Apple Inc. that allows wireless streaming of audio, video, and photos, together with related metadata between devices."
I find it somewhat ironic that your defending Airplay...against more open standards like UPnP or DNLA...as someone who uses MythTV SMB works better...but then you have an iPhone and Apple stuff *only works* with their proprietary garbage. Personally I hope this...and Airplay die a death.
If they don't capture a chunk of the mobile space they will die.
I really liked your comment, but I think Mozilla has an image problem. Its marketshare on the desktop, is dropping yet its still IMO the best browser, and other than its startup time(which is probably better since I used it last) I loved the firefox mobile browser on both Android and the N900 . If I didn't have to sync through the cloud to get my bookmarks on the phone tablet I would use it in that space.
They seem a great company, and I cannot believe they have such a hard time selling themselves against Microsoft/Google/Apple who are just mega corporations
So they produced something that sucks, but if they improve what they do, they can produce something in the future that doesn't suck?
The problem was the review (in context of your Microsoft comments they get a free pass too often and are blocking the market for Fledging OS's), is that A €69 / $90 (including €30 / $39 balance) for prepay customers was not compared as one. These are not flagship products they are aimed at the very bottom of the smartphone market. Now admittedly hardware in that market is getting better. I notice http://www.gizchina.com/2013/06/27/goophone-x1-set-to-be-worlds-cheapest-quad-core-phone-at-less-than-100/ Goophone are planning on selling a quad core phone for $100...but that in an uncertain future.
The bottom line is I saw some pretty advanced phones for very little money.
I assume you are being a sarcastic, but the reality is I am sure it does. Right now the whole market is being given to Android, and although Google is not motivated solely by competition, but your time spent in their services. compitition keeps companies honest(look how Microsoft is treating its *cough* customers) Apple are happy to give the market away again, and look to end with a small but profitable niche player, as it was in its now forgotten PC market, or simply will not exist. Personally I think an OS like this has real opportunity(I am more excited by Sailboat...and to a lesser extent Ubuntu). I hope its not blocked by aggressive actions by Microsoft who simply so not have a serious product.
Have you ever tried multitouch on a 1.5" device? Much less touch?
Why do you need to (multi) touch a watch? Voice and Various Gestures...or simple swipe and touch on a watch covers most of what you want from a device on your wrist if it is connected to a smartphone elsewhere.
Although there is no reason why the 1.5" watch couldn't be 9" Wide:)
Oh look. Yet another benchmark showing how superior a new handset is...yet every new handset is still laggy and jerky, including the S3
Actually the CPU allows you to run better(give it a name) programs at higher resolutions. Its why Flash was not the problem for Android that it is for Apple. Google put an awful lot of effort into improving things like responsiveness. Goolge finally managed to put this lie to sleep with Project Butter http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/27/3118769/android-4-1-jelly-bean.
'Or are you too dumb not to question why a company that makes the CPUs and retina displays for Apple can't use them in their own product line.
Apples CPU's are measurably slower tham the Samsung Galaxy SIII Samsung last generation product and retina Display has become synonymous with Low DPI as 1080P becomes the new normal for Android.
It's telling you are speaking outside your area of expertise, there's a rather large optimization gap between Apple's in-house iOS vs Samsung's use of Android.
http://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2013/03/samsung-galaxy-s-4-benchmarks/ The analysis shows the new Samsung flagship is significantly faster than competing phones including the HTC One, and its predecessor, the Samsung Galaxy S3. However, the S3 also benchmarked faster than the iPhone 5.
So slower than the last generation of Samsung Phones
top (and only) phone looking mid range and 12-18 months out of date at launch
Samsung's phones might be more cutting edge at launch. But in 1+ year, the iPhone will still be supported by (decent) software updates, and the Samsung phone will be long forgotten for the latest and greatest.
Interesting I have seen a launch of what is dubbed "Google Play edition phones"(including samsung) from a few manufacturers that come with stock android. In response to this very issue. They now come with Vanilla Android and will be easier to update. Apple conversely is expanding their product line instead of using older models as a product line so expect support lengths to drop dramatically.
Midrange and out of date. Last I checked it still blew anything else out there out of the water in pretty much any benchmark. How's the iPhone mid-range in anything other than fanboy nonsense?
2007 was a great year, the film 300 game out, The last episode of the price is right, and Anna Nicole Smith's untimely death.
I can't think of a flagship phone from competing company that is not newer, higher DPI, More RAM, Faster processor, With features like waterproof and IR running a later OS.
Apple fell behind a long time ago, This is just getting more and more marked as time goes on.
I'm just thinking out loud but, could he be taking bribes from Samsung (or others) to make himself rich on the sidelines?...
From his Wikipedia Page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Cook "In early 2012, he was awarded compensation of 1 million shares, vesting in 2016 and 2021, by Apple's Board of Directors.[5] As of 2012, Cook's total compensation package of US$378 million makes him the highest paid CEO in the world"
Now they are just riding it out, both laughing all the way to the bank.
Wow. Ironically Apple could have manufactured themselves under Steve Jobs regime but instead chose through cost saving go elsewhere(Samsung). They famously laughed at the president at the suggestion of bringing Apple Manufacturing to the states, and now are having the unpleasant sunrise of of their top (and only) phone looking mid range and 12-18 months out of date at launch. While Samsung refresh a product range every three months. Now thousands of patents are on various hardware components by various Korean and Chinese companies....with Apple having relatively few design & interface patents, admittedly with a friendly court system looking favourably at them.
Thankfully Jobs does not have to live with the consequences of this...as he died, but in context of going to the bank article...Apple is going to the bank with less profits (less market share, less market cap, less brand value, less cutting edge, less interesting products, less news, less innovation). At least Dell finally got to say I told you so.
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I'm more of a platform-agnostic myself.
No your not your consistently anti-oss and there is nothing wrong with that, hell whatever floats your boat, but platform-agnostic you are not.
people pay a lot of money to Microsoft
$39.99
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/buy?ocid=GA8_O_WOL_Hero_ShopHP_FPP_Null from the Windows sales page the cheapest...read crippled (Windows 8 upgrade) its $150 for the less crippled version (Windows 8 Pro)$280. They do not offer a retail version...the price must be horrendous.
That's also why I like Win and Mac: when I pay, I get a premium OS, with less bugs, missing features and crashes, than I have with a Linux desktop distro.
A quick look at my computer uptime 21:45:37 up 4 days, 22:40, 2 users, load average: 0.66, 0.60, 0.58
The fact that you are marked informative is quite scary...the fact that that you did so using the word "premium" shows how far we have fallen in terms of real measures, and how much we live with unsubstantiated bullshit terms.
From a study http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/03/macbook_pro_most_reliable_windows_pc/ On 37,000 Apple and Windows computers still on sale(new) it recorded 224,144 crashes, 250,791 non-responsive events (in which an app hangs for five seconds or longer) and 84,251 blue screen of death incidents in three months.
A Linux user would not call that a "Premium" they would call it "Trash"
This model seems to work on Steam and TODAY nobody is bad-mouthing Steam after over a decade of DRM-encumbered operation.
I am against DRM on steam(and am far from being alone)...and many include myself bad mouth it. I would rather all my games were DRM free. I buy from steam because they are *cheap*...in my mind disposable, because I am prepared to pay less money from a game I license instead of own(yes I am playing hard and fast with English what of it).
The difference is DRM on the xbox is that games are $60...and come on physical media.
The bottom line is this has nothing to do with the article in question, which is about spying on customers and shovelling targeted ads down their throats, on a device costing more than the opposition who don't.
Why are there even ads on the Xbox? After all you've:
A) Bought the console
B) Bought some games (presumably)
C) Quite possibly bought a gold membership
Now, I can understand something like when you go to the store to have maybe a little promo of "what's new" but beyond that, ads are unacceptable.
Except you don't buy anything anymore you don't own your xbox...games...service you license them. Suck it up or by an alternative product of which there is many. I have bought an OuYa.
Meet Mark Penn http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/15/technology/microsoft-battles-google-by-hiring-political-brawler-mark-penn.html?_r=1& This *cough* shitslinger of joys like scroogled is also in charge of include a blind taste test, Coke-versus-Pepsi style, of search results from Google and Microsoft’s Bing.
Mr. Penn was put in charge of innocently titled “strategic and special projects” its nice that his work bulldozing enemies of the Clintons is now but to work slinging shit at Google.
Ironically this is another article about Bing being shoved down peoples throats in another Duopoly rather than competing on old fashioned things like competition. Perhaps Microsoft Time and Money would be spent serving its hostages.
I'd like to see all Linux projects standardize on Qt as a their Gui toolkit. I understand why everyone has their own but the war is won and Qt won it.
War..Won!? All I see is healthy competition, and personally I run a whole host of Applications that I don't care what toolkit they are in. Having a look around there are some absolutely stellar QT applications http://calibre-ebook.com/, k3b http://www.k3b.org/ (although not in development for a while), MP3 Diags http://mp3diags.sourceforge.net/ and of course Clementine http://www.clementine-player.org/about. There are a few programs that can run either that I use Transmission http://www.transmissionbt.com/ and Avidemux http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/ . But the Bottom line is GTK+ seems as popular as ever, and still more popular than Qt.
What is most bizarre is this about this is LXDE is looking great, a Desktop we don't hear about often enough, and is looking like a desktop I would use...half this discussion is about lets be honest a license subtlety I don't care about.
The docs directory on github is essentially empty. If they can't even provide a formal specification they are no better than reverse engineered versions of airplay. What a fucking joke.
Unfortunately I and I suspect most here are in the camp of understanding *code*(especially if its well designed) over a *formal specification*, and had a working implementation. The whole point of Airplay is to replace it, because its a proprietary protocol stack/suite developed by the most litigious company on the planet.
HDMI is proprietary too, but I'd have a hard time arguing that a competing open standard would improve the current landscape.
The HDMI Founders are Hitachi, Matsushita Electric Industrial (Panasonic/National/Quasar), Philips, Silicon Image, Sony, Thomson, RCA and Toshiba.[15] Digital Content Protection, LLC provides HDCP (which was developed by Intel) for HDMI.[16] HDMI has the support of motion picture producers Fox, Universal, Warner Bros. and Disney, along with system operators DirecTV, EchoStar (Dish Network) and CableLabs unlike AirPlay (previously called AirTunes when it was for audio only is a proprietary protocol stack/suite developed by Apple Inc.
Did you spot the chasm of difference between the two.
While it's great an alternative to AirPlay had been released, I doubt it'll get much support from accessory manufacturers unless the likes of Samsung decide to integrate it with their phones.
Right now Apple accessories that used to be *everywhere* are increasingly only seen as sad sale items, in those wire bins by the counter collecting discount stickers, after Apple shafted its customers with another proprietary connector...at least they get to give *more* money to Apple...and they do need it, avoiding paying any tax in the UK much of cost them a small fortune in..accountants.
Accessory Manufacturers are desperate to tap into none apple products simply because they outnumber Apple products six times. Recently I am seeing those same shelves occupied with Apple products filled with those with *open*(yes I am playing hard and loose with the word-Pretend your reading this on Ars) standards like Bluetiooth, USB...and even old 2.5mm Headset Jack.
The days of the iPod are over...any Apple proprietary anything (protocol stack/suite; connector...seriously anything) is a strategic disadvantage on their part.
Obligatory XKCD.
The joke is about creating a standard to replace multiple incompatible standards...simply adds to the standard. This is about pragmatism; its about creating an open version of Apple Inc proprietary protocol stack/suite.
If it's not compatible with AirPlay what's the point? My Linux music server already supports AirPlay, so does my MythTV, so does my iPhone. Why do we need yet a different new standard, especially if it doesn't work with existing devices?
I don't think you understand (Well actually I think you do) from Wikipedia "AirPlay (previously called AirTunes when it was for audio only[1]) is a proprietary protocol stack/suite developed by Apple Inc. that allows wireless streaming of audio, video, and photos, together with related metadata between devices."
I find it somewhat ironic that your defending Airplay...against more open standards like UPnP or DNLA...as someone who uses MythTV SMB works better...but then you have an iPhone and Apple stuff *only works* with their proprietary garbage. Personally I hope this...and Airplay die a death.
No, Google sells your eyeballs. Well, rents them.
Not unless it can put adverts on them. It sells advertising space like newspapers.
If they don't capture a chunk of the mobile space they will die.
I really liked your comment, but I think Mozilla has an image problem. Its marketshare on the desktop, is dropping yet its still IMO the best browser, and other than its startup time(which is probably better since I used it last) I loved the firefox mobile browser on both Android and the N900 . If I didn't have to sync through the cloud to get my bookmarks on the phone tablet I would use it in that space.
They seem a great company, and I cannot believe they have such a hard time selling themselves against Microsoft/Google/Apple who are just mega corporations
So they produced something that sucks, but if they improve what they do, they can produce something in the future that doesn't suck?
The problem was the review (in context of your Microsoft comments they get a free pass too often and are blocking the market for Fledging OS's), is that A €69 / $90 (including €30 / $39 balance) for prepay customers was not compared as one. These are not flagship products they are aimed at the very bottom of the smartphone market. Now admittedly hardware in that market is getting better. I notice http://www.gizchina.com/2013/06/27/goophone-x1-set-to-be-worlds-cheapest-quad-core-phone-at-less-than-100/ Goophone are planning on selling a quad core phone for $100...but that in an uncertain future.
The bottom line is I saw some pretty advanced phones for very little money.
Just what the world needs, another phone OS.
I assume you are being a sarcastic, but the reality is I am sure it does. Right now the whole market is being given to Android, and although Google is not motivated solely by competition, but your time spent in their services. compitition keeps companies honest(look how Microsoft is treating its *cough* customers) Apple are happy to give the market away again, and look to end with a small but profitable niche player, as it was in its now forgotten PC market, or simply will not exist. Personally I think an OS like this has real opportunity(I am more excited by Sailboat...and to a lesser extent Ubuntu). I hope its not blocked by aggressive actions by Microsoft who simply so not have a serious product.
Have you ever tried multitouch on a 1.5" device? Much less touch?
Why do you need to (multi) touch a watch? Voice and Various Gestures...or simple swipe and touch on a watch covers most of what you want from a device on your wrist if it is connected to a smartphone elsewhere.
Although there is no reason why the 1.5" watch couldn't be 9" Wide :)
Oh look. Yet another benchmark showing how superior a new handset is...yet every new handset is still laggy and jerky, including the S3
Actually the CPU allows you to run better(give it a name) programs at higher resolutions. Its why Flash was not the problem for Android that it is for Apple. Google put an awful lot of effort into improving things like responsiveness. Goolge finally managed to put this lie to sleep with Project Butter http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/27/3118769/android-4-1-jelly-bean.
Here are a few links to fixes to make the iPhone and iPad a little less laggy http://www.imore.com/speed-laggy-ios-device
'Or are you too dumb not to question why a company that makes the CPUs and retina displays for Apple can't use them in their own product line.
Apples CPU's are measurably slower tham the Samsung Galaxy SIII Samsung last generation product and retina Display has become synonymous with Low DPI as 1080P becomes the new normal for Android.
It's telling you are speaking outside your area of expertise, there's a rather large optimization gap between Apple's in-house iOS vs Samsung's use of Android.
http://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2013/03/samsung-galaxy-s-4-benchmarks/ The analysis shows the new Samsung flagship is significantly faster than competing phones including the HTC One, and its predecessor, the Samsung Galaxy S3. However, the S3 also benchmarked faster than the iPhone 5.
So slower than the last generation of Samsung Phones
Samsung's phones might be more cutting edge at launch. But in 1+ year, the iPhone will still be supported by (decent) software updates, and the Samsung phone will be long forgotten for the latest and greatest.
Interesting I have seen a launch of what is dubbed "Google Play edition phones"(including samsung) from a few manufacturers that come with stock android. In response to this very issue. They now come with Vanilla Android and will be easier to update. Apple conversely is expanding their product line instead of using older models as a product line so expect support lengths to drop dramatically.
Midrange and out of date. Last I checked it still blew anything else out there out of the water in pretty much any benchmark. How's the iPhone mid-range in anything other than fanboy nonsense?
2007 was a great year, the film 300 game out, The last episode of the price is right, and Anna Nicole Smith's untimely death.
I can't think of a flagship phone from competing company that is not newer, higher DPI, More RAM, Faster processor, With features like waterproof and IR running a later OS.
Apple fell behind a long time ago, This is just getting more and more marked as time goes on.
I'm just thinking out loud but, could he be taking bribes from Samsung (or others) to make himself rich on the sidelines?...
From his Wikipedia Page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Cook "In early 2012, he was awarded compensation of 1 million shares, vesting in 2016 and 2021, by Apple's Board of Directors.[5] As of 2012, Cook's total compensation package of US$378 million makes him the highest paid CEO in the world"
So I would say No!
4. Liquidation sale! More Profits!!!
FYI Apples Profits(and margins) are dropping. Its response is alleging expand its current product range (Larger, Cheaper, throw a dice)
Now they are just riding it out, both laughing all the way to the bank.
Wow. Ironically Apple could have manufactured themselves under Steve Jobs regime but instead chose through cost saving go elsewhere(Samsung). They famously laughed at the president at the suggestion of bringing Apple Manufacturing to the states, and now are having the unpleasant sunrise of of their top (and only) phone looking mid range and 12-18 months out of date at launch. While Samsung refresh a product range every three months. Now thousands of patents are on various hardware components by various Korean and Chinese companies....with Apple having relatively few design & interface patents, admittedly with a friendly court system looking favourably at them.
Thankfully Jobs does not have to live with the consequences of this...as he died, but in context of going to the bank article...Apple is going to the bank with less profits (less market share, less market cap, less brand value, less cutting edge, less interesting products, less news, less innovation). At least Dell finally got to say I told you so.