however he wasn't on US soil at the time and so for the civilized world the USA can't have jurisdiction.
Where was the US Gov't server they attempted to hack?
In a very publicized case the US Govt is charging a couple dozen Russians (sorry, RUSSIANS!) that never set foot on US soil with charges surrounding attempts to influence The US election in 2016, so I think someone that specifically targeted a US govt server falls within the IS's jurisdiction.
Let's see if UK courts are reasonable.
Meaning if they agree with your layman's interpretation of jurisdiction and extradition they are "reasonable"? If that's the definition of reasonable then I'm hoping they are "unreasonable"!
There are no windows only applications that do anything useful.
Tell you what sport, why not go down to your local hospital and ask them to remove any machine that either runs or requires a Windows-only application.
I eagerly await your link to an open source MRI machine.
War isn't pretty, and the horrible war crime so many believe they saw in that video can only be seen by those unaware of how war really is (watch the first 15-20 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan"), it's more like that than any John Wayne war film.
No, it isn't. It's not even close. The parallel would be a deli with cold cuts or a bakery with cakes and bread on display in the window and a hungry person walks by.
In your example you have hungry people, actual food, and food is a basic requirement for life. No one "needs" whatever is in an amazon box on your porch to live.
In order for a "porch thief" to be put away for life under a "three strikes" sentencing guideline, they'd have to, you know, commit three violent felonies, and theft of a package is not typically a violent felony by any metric I'm aware of.
Well, perhaps the victims of "wage theft" should start reporting their "stolen" wages to the authorities. Ever heard the saying "squeaky wheel gets the oil"? People complain when thier packages are stolen, wage theft victims likely don't follow-up with their employer, let alone file claims with the proper state body.
Or did you not notice the extradition hearing is going to be to the United States, NOT SWEDEN?
The US is not holding an extradition hearing, the UK removed him from the embassy and is handing him over to US authorities in response to an extradition request from them, dipshit.
That evidence would also add weight to the argument that he was effectively incarcerated for 7 years, being unable to leave for at least part of it while Sweden was still seeking extradition.
Curious how "avoiding extradition" in any way equates to incarceration:
- Assange sought asylum/sanctuary from extradition by choice.
- Assange could leave the Embassy any time he liked.
- Assange was free to do anything he wanted while in the Embassy.
That does not in any way correlate to any reasonable definition of incarceration I'm aware of.
I bet the US has communication between manning and Assange, or snowden and Assange, where Assange directs/instructs either to gather secret information and send it to him - that would put Assange in legal trouble as a co-conspirator on espionage.
If you are on the shoulder, sitting in the drivers seat, and the key is in the ignition, I believe that is a fair bust in many/most US states.
If you take the keys out of the ignition, sit in the passenger or back seat, your blood alcohol level isn't important. A person sleeping in the driver seat is considered in control of the vehicle, and if on the shoulder, that is part of the road.
Pilots wear headsets so they CAN HEAR important instructions over cockpit noise, rarely does a pilot need to pull over for a first responder in mid-flight.
Simple, a deaf person driving a car knows of their disability and accounts for it by being extra vigilant in checking mirrors, looking around while driving. A hearing person, rocking out to some righteous tunes, doesn't realize they can't hear what's going on around them and change their driving behavior.
We should all get together and start voting against those sorts of authorities.
Yes, let's start voting out politicians that justify any intrusion into everyone's personal liberties to protect the smallest/weakest among us, we'll only vote for people that promise to repeal intrusive and unconstitutional laws and regulations, you know - like Trump.
Wow, that's amazing - you solved the problem by simply reading msmash's summary - you are like a technical savant. /sarcasm
The issue isn't the GPS hardware, it's the signal the satellites are sending and the software that is processing those signals.
however he wasn't on US soil at the time and so for the civilized world the USA can't have jurisdiction.
Where was the US Gov't server they attempted to hack?
In a very publicized case the US Govt is charging a couple dozen Russians (sorry, RUSSIANS! ) that never set foot on US soil with charges surrounding attempts to influence The US election in 2016, so I think someone that specifically targeted a US govt server falls within the IS's jurisdiction.
Let's see if UK courts are reasonable.
Meaning if they agree with your layman's interpretation of jurisdiction and extradition they are "reasonable"? If that's the definition of reasonable then I'm hoping they are "unreasonable"!
There are no windows only applications that do anything useful.
Tell you what sport, why not go down to your local hospital and ask them to remove any machine that either runs or requires a Windows-only application.
I eagerly await your link to an open source MRI machine.
War isn't pretty, and the horrible war crime so many believe they saw in that video can only be seen by those unaware of how war really is (watch the first 15-20 minutes of "Saving Private Ryan"), it's more like that than any John Wayne war film.
"He's never stepped foot in the US"?
Are you certain about that blanket claim? "Never" is a really long time - he never gave a speech, attended a fundraiser, anything, EVER?
That being said, having set foot on US soil, if he ever did, would not obligate him to put US interests first or put him st risk for treason charges.
No, it isn't. It's not even close. The parallel would be a deli with cold cuts or a bakery with cakes and bread on display in the window and a hungry person walks by.
In your example you have hungry people, actual food, and food is a basic requirement for life. No one "needs" whatever is in an amazon box on your porch to live.
In order for a "porch thief" to be put away for life under a "three strikes" sentencing guideline, they'd have to, you know, commit three violent felonies, and theft of a package is not typically a violent felony by any metric I'm aware of.
Bank bailouts were repaid - most recipients wanted to refuse the money, many paid it all back as soon as permitted.
In 2010 the federal government took over federally-guaranteed student loans, and the amount borrowed/owed to gov't ballooned from $150BN to $1.5TN under the careful management of the federal government - I imagine similar "success" were the federal government to take over, rather than just merely regulate, banks.
Well, perhaps the victims of "wage theft" should start reporting their "stolen" wages to the authorities. Ever heard the saying "squeaky wheel gets the oil"? People complain when thier packages are stolen, wage theft victims likely don't follow-up with their employer, let alone file claims with the proper state body.
Probably deployed where they own actual real estate and where theft rate is highest.
Have the packages delivered to a drop-off point where you can pick them up later.
They offer this already - Amazon Pick-up Location
Or did you not notice the extradition hearing is going to be to the United States, NOT SWEDEN?
The US is not holding an extradition hearing, the UK removed him from the embassy and is handing him over to US authorities in response to an extradition request from them, dipshit.
He has not broken any US laws.
Hacking.
He did not leak the information, he did not direct the collection of the information leaked by those who did leak it to him.
He helped Snowden and Manning hack into US Gov't computers, that's a crime.
He is not legally liable for the protection of said leaked US secrets.
No one said he was, he's a hacker - convicted in Australia for hacking, soon will be convicted in US for hacking.
Extradited on hacking charges - the US has apparently got evidence that he helped snowden and manning hack into Federal computer systems.
He's reduced himself to a babbling nut-job, why waste the bullet?
Your remark is the lowest kind of ad hominem attack.
Really? You can't think of any worse kind of ad hominem attack than calling someone a "narcissist"?
I can.
So Assange spent seven years of his life trying to avoid a maximum five year jail sentence?
I thought this guy was smart? That seems kinda dumb. He could have gotten out 2-3 years earlier for good behavior.
That evidence would also add weight to the argument that he was effectively incarcerated for 7 years, being unable to leave for at least part of it while Sweden was still seeking extradition.
Curious how "avoiding extradition" in any way equates to incarceration:
- Assange sought asylum/sanctuary from extradition by choice.
- Assange could leave the Embassy any time he liked.
- Assange was free to do anything he wanted while in the Embassy.
That does not in any way correlate to any reasonable definition of incarceration I'm aware of.
I bet the US has communication between manning and Assange, or snowden and Assange, where Assange directs/instructs either to gather secret information and send it to him - that would put Assange in legal trouble as a co-conspirator on espionage.
If you are on the shoulder, sitting in the drivers seat, and the key is in the ignition, I believe that is a fair bust in many/most US states.
If you take the keys out of the ignition, sit in the passenger or back seat, your blood alcohol level isn't important. A person sleeping in the driver seat is considered in control of the vehicle, and if on the shoulder, that is part of the road.
Pilots wear headsets so they CAN HEAR important instructions over cockpit noise, rarely does a pilot need to pull over for a first responder in mid-flight.
Deaf renewal applicants are easy to spot - they don't respond when you talk to them.
They do have vision tests in many states for drivers past a certain age - see this link for a report of all 50 states from 2012:
https://www.claimsjournal.com/...
Simple, a deaf person driving a car knows of their disability and accounts for it by being extra vigilant in checking mirrors, looking around while driving. A hearing person, rocking out to some righteous tunes, doesn't realize they can't hear what's going on around them and change their driving behavior.
We should all get together and start voting against those sorts of authorities.
Yes, let's start voting out politicians that justify any intrusion into everyone's personal liberties to protect the smallest/weakest among us, we'll only vote for people that promise to repeal intrusive and unconstitutional laws and regulations, you know - like Trump.
The original poster wrote:
You americans just love sending each other to jail
"americans" isn't short for "North Americans"