If the GOP was dumb enough to try a coup d'etat by Constitution, they would find out that they don't run as much as they think. There is a reason why they lost the popular vote.
GOP won (by popular vote) 3/4th of state governerships.
GOP won (by popular vote) 3/4ths of state legislatures.
GOP won (by popular vote) the majority in the Congress.
GOP won (by popular vote) the majority in Senate.
GOP won (via the electoral college) the Presidency.
Every election Democrats lost in 2016 except the Presidential election, was lost in a popular vote.
Actually, America didn't, that is why Trump didn't win the popular vote.
Never, in the history has the United States selected it's leader based on the 'popular vote', why do you feel the need to point that out?
Is it your contention that Team Hillary didn't know that the election was decided based on the Electoral results, not how many Californians she could get to vote for her?
Anyone too stupid to understand how the election is decided shouldn't become president.
Please describe the crucial element of 'modern society' that is only available on-line... social media? Email? On-line shopping? Cat videos? What is the defining thing, available only on-line, that these luddites are missing out on?
Yes, but your phone company can't sell your call history. That would be the equivalent thing, not your bs.
I suspect the gov't pays telcos to co-locate equipment at switch centers to capture all your call history (previously called 'Meta-data'), so in effect it is already being sold, to the government, paid for with your tax dollars...
There are a multitude of options other than assaulting passengers, but they didn't take any of them.
Agreed.
Everything from being driven the four hour trip, organizing for them to be put into jump seats on other aircraft, paying for seats on a different flight, offering more compensation for volunteers...you get the drift. Heck, moving staff around is what jump seats are for.
You seriously didn't read anything about this particular flight, did you?
There are no other aircraft flying between O'Hare and Louisville - it was 8:00 at night, there appears to be about one flight a day on that route (the layover was 20+ hours according to some reports).
They offered $800/seat, but no one took it (because they'd have to wait 20 hours to get home.
Jump seats? Seriously? Exactly where are the crew members working on the flight supposed to sit during take-off and landing?
The airline employees didn't have to wait until 8:00 PM to get to Louisville, and we aren't certain when their next flight was - the next flight from O'Hare to Louisville was some 20 hours after the flight we are discussing.
Couldn't United fly another crew in from another airport? Perhaps a flight from the east coast?
Perhaps airlines should be forced to refund tickets if they manage to resell the seat - which given the way their pricing works they invariable do at a higher price anyway.
Sure, then they will FORCE you to book a new flight when you show up late for your flight, rather than give you a courtesy re-schedule. And when you can't make your flight, rather than issue you a credit on your low-price, non-refundable ticket, you'll lose 100 cents on the dollar.
Honestly, the current system works fine (for most people) - it's been in place how many years now, and this is the first time an overbooking issue has been world-wide news.
Giving people the option didn't work, forcing them to accept the offer worked for three because they felt they had no option - giving them the option would likely not have worked...
United could have easily booked this crew later or sent them by other means.
The "other means" would have cost the airline actual cash, the $1,000 airline credit/seat is essentially free.
It is a four hour drive (Chicago to Kentucky) - United should have hired a stretch limo to drive them the four hours to the KY airport, then the four hour return drive empty for less than $1,000.
Because it usually works out just fine, and it's so incredibly fast compared to driving. Days turn into just a few hours.
This is a one day delay for a what amounts to a four hour drive. (Chicago to Kentucky)
I would have asked for a ticket refund and enough money (cash, not airline credit) to rent a car. I was once on a cancelled flight that got bumped to the next morning - the airline gave me a hotel room, a food voucher, and a ticket on the next flight out from Pittsburgh to Newark via Kentucky...
I asked for the refund, rented a car, and drove to Newark in about 6 hours, rather than jerking around the airline system for 18 hours...
But at that point, I have to ask, "Couldn't the airline just send the employees to the destination using ANY OTHER MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION for that much money?"
A stretch limo at $125/hr for the four hour ride to Indianapolis and the four hour return ride back to chicago would have been $1,000 cash, but that is infinitely more than $4,000 in "United Company Script" good only for air travel on United.
they should have bumped one of the 4 UA employees that wanted to fly
They "wanted" to fly because they were scheduled to work a flight departing from Indianapolis the next morning. This wasn't 4 united employees on a vacation...
At $5000 cash per person, United would have bumped their own people instead.
They could have hired a limo and had the four driven to their destination - it is only a four hour drive from Chicago to Indianapolis. (Assuming the limo cost $125/hr, and you had to pay for the empty return drive, that's less than $1,000.)
Also the airlines typically only offer 'vouchers' for future air travel. In other countries they also give cash. I once got about $100 for taking a one hour later flight in the UK.
Offering cash would change the dynamics very quickly, vouchers are essentially no-cost giveaways in most cases.
And yet they don't refund the tickets for the people who don't show up.
There are people that don't show up, there are people that re-schedule their flight in advance, and there are those that miss their flight.
Don't show up, lost your ticket fee UNLESS you bought a refundable ticket.
Want to reschedule your flight? Under certain circumstances you will get a refund (type of ticket, proximity to flight time, etc.)
Simply miss your flight, they will typically make every effort to reschedule you on the next available flight for free.
Airlines also frequently offer you to use your unused ticket as credit for a later flight, provided you pay a rescheduling fee.
What other industry is allowed to sell commodities twice? Usually that is considered fraud....
An airline seat is a perishable commodity, and as pointed out above they typically DO refund/credit people that don't "show up", depending on the situation.
Why don't they automatically translate them to something more modern then run them in the cloud?
Because COBOL can't run in the cloud?
COBOL is an efficient, practal tool to solve basic business application issues, it is primarily used on batch workloads and 'green screen' mainframe applications.
Rewriting applications that work flawlessly today into a new language, DB, and OS environment opens up what was a stable application to almost unlimited numbers of software issues.
The real migration path off custom COBOL applications is likely COTS software for business applications.
The DNC, an hour before the March job numbers were out put out this press release:
An hour before the Bureau of Labor Statistics released the March jobs numbers, the Democrat National Committee issued a news release saying, “Today, the U.S. economy is expected to continue the longest streak of private sector job growth on record, one of President Barack Obama’s most important accomplishments.
The number of employed Americans increased 472,000 to 153,000,000 in March, setting a second straight monthly record; and the number of unemployed persons dropped by 326,000 to 7.2 million.
Oddly, the Slashdot article insists the results were less than impressive...
Wow, how surprising that folks with tens of thousands in student debt have a harder time buying a house compared to their piers with ZERO student debt! I never would have guessed that!/sarcasm
The real problem at Three Mile Island was that it's problem occurred while the movie The China Syndrome was in movie theaters - the average person confuses the plot of the movie with what actually happened at Three Mile Island.
When the nuclear plant shut down, was the facility razed and a massive coal-fired plant constructed, OR was there an increase in coal-fired generation somewhere else in the state? If coal caused the low birth weights, wouldn't it's impact be near the coal-fired generator, not the shuttered nuclear plant?
I strongly suspect the low birth weight after the nuclear plant shutdown may have more to do with a reduction in prenatal care due to the loss of well-paying jobs with generous healthcare benefits.
It would be interesting to know about any impact to low birth weights around the coal-fired generators, not the shuttered nuclear facility.
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GOP won (by popular vote) 3/4th of state governerships.
GOP won (by popular vote) 3/4ths of state legislatures.
GOP won (by popular vote) the majority in the Congress.
GOP won (by popular vote) the majority in Senate.
GOP won (via the electoral college) the Presidency.
Every election Democrats lost in 2016 except the Presidential election, was lost in a popular vote.
Never, in the history has the United States selected it's leader based on the 'popular vote', why do you feel the need to point that out?
Is it your contention that Team Hillary didn't know that the election was decided based on the Electoral results, not how many Californians she could get to vote for her?
Anyone too stupid to understand how the election is decided shouldn't become president.
"What, you mean like with a rag?"
That kind of stupid?
Please describe the crucial element of 'modern society' that is only available on-line... social media? Email? On-line shopping? Cat videos? What is the defining thing, available only on-line, that these luddites are missing out on?
I suspect the gov't pays telcos to co-locate equipment at switch centers to capture all your call history (previously called 'Meta-data'), so in effect it is already being sold, to the government, paid for with your tax dollars...
Since when did selling a car in just under 3 months qualify as quick?
...starting a class after 11am increases attendance in the class as well.
Agreed.
You seriously didn't read anything about this particular flight, did you?
There are no other aircraft flying between O'Hare and Louisville - it was 8:00 at night, there appears to be about one flight a day on that route (the layover was 20+ hours according to some reports).
They offered $800/seat, but no one took it (because they'd have to wait 20 hours to get home.
Jump seats? Seriously? Exactly where are the crew members working on the flight supposed to sit during take-off and landing?
It is 317 miles from O'Hare airport to Louisville, KY
The airline employees didn't have to wait until 8:00 PM to get to Louisville, and we aren't certain when their next flight was - the next flight from O'Hare to Louisville was some 20 hours after the flight we are discussing.
Couldn't United fly another crew in from another airport? Perhaps a flight from the east coast?
Sure, then they will FORCE you to book a new flight when you show up late for your flight, rather than give you a courtesy re-schedule. And when you can't make your flight, rather than issue you a credit on your low-price, non-refundable ticket, you'll lose 100 cents on the dollar.
Honestly, the current system works fine (for most people) - it's been in place how many years now, and this is the first time an overbooking issue has been world-wide news.
Giving people the option didn't work, forcing them to accept the offer worked for three because they felt they had no option - giving them the option would likely not have worked...
The "other means" would have cost the airline actual cash, the $1,000 airline credit/seat is essentially free.
It is a four hour drive (Chicago to Kentucky) - United should have hired a stretch limo to drive them the four hours to the KY airport, then the four hour return drive empty for less than $1,000.
This is a one day delay for a what amounts to a four hour drive. (Chicago to Kentucky)
I would have asked for a ticket refund and enough money (cash, not airline credit) to rent a car. I was once on a cancelled flight that got bumped to the next morning - the airline gave me a hotel room, a food voucher, and a ticket on the next flight out from Pittsburgh to Newark via Kentucky...
I asked for the refund, rented a car, and drove to Newark in about 6 hours, rather than jerking around the airline system for 18 hours...
A stretch limo at $125/hr for the four hour ride to Indianapolis and the four hour return ride back to chicago would have been $1,000 cash, but that is infinitely more than $4,000 in "United Company Script" good only for air travel on United.
They "wanted" to fly because they were scheduled to work a flight departing from Indianapolis the next morning. This wasn't 4 united employees on a vacation...
They could have hired a limo and had the four driven to their destination - it is only a four hour drive from Chicago to Indianapolis. (Assuming the limo cost $125/hr, and you had to pay for the empty return drive, that's less than $1,000.)
Offering cash would change the dynamics very quickly, vouchers are essentially no-cost giveaways in most cases.
There are people that don't show up, there are people that re-schedule their flight in advance, and there are those that miss their flight.
Don't show up, lost your ticket fee UNLESS you bought a refundable ticket.
Want to reschedule your flight? Under certain circumstances you will get a refund (type of ticket, proximity to flight time, etc.)
Simply miss your flight, they will typically make every effort to reschedule you on the next available flight for free.
Airlines also frequently offer you to use your unused ticket as credit for a later flight, provided you pay a rescheduling fee.
They did, the bidding stopped at $1,000/seat (in airline credit I assume).
110 baud was the bomb!
Because COBOL can't run in the cloud?
COBOL is an efficient, practal tool to solve basic business application issues, it is primarily used on batch workloads and 'green screen' mainframe applications.
Rewriting applications that work flawlessly today into a new language, DB, and OS environment opens up what was a stable application to almost unlimited numbers of software issues.
The real migration path off custom COBOL applications is likely COTS software for business applications.
to fund poor children's healthcare
The DNC, an hour before the March job numbers were out put out this press release:
Source: CNS
From the same article:
Oddly, the Slashdot article insists the results were less than impressive...
Wow, how surprising that folks with tens of thousands in student debt have a harder time buying a house compared to their piers with ZERO student debt! I never would have guessed that! /sarcasm
The real problem at Three Mile Island was that it's problem occurred while the movie The China Syndrome was in movie theaters - the average person confuses the plot of the movie with what actually happened at Three Mile Island.
When the nuclear plant shut down, was the facility razed and a massive coal-fired plant constructed, OR was there an increase in coal-fired generation somewhere else in the state? If coal caused the low birth weights, wouldn't it's impact be near the coal-fired generator, not the shuttered nuclear plant?
I strongly suspect the low birth weight after the nuclear plant shutdown may have more to do with a reduction in prenatal care due to the loss of well-paying jobs with generous healthcare benefits.
It would be interesting to know about any impact to low birth weights around the coal-fired generators, not the shuttered nuclear facility.