Out of the six top contries in information tech 4 are Scandinavian: Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway. (The US and Singapore being the other two)
Wish i could back this up with a link, but i forgot where i got it from.
Re:ive always disagreed with stuff like this...
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Well, i did you my first install of linux as a complete unix virgin. Heck, i didn't have any clue what it was even (other than i had the notion it was supposed to be "cool").
I had no manuals, no books and no one to ask. All i had was a brief introduction in a magazine telling me about 6 commands. ls,rm,cp,cat and most importantly: man and info! It took me a couple of months to even begin to learn to do anything useful in linux, and i erased it and went back to dos many'a'time.
I realize that most people wouldn't do this nowadays, and why should they?
Pop up a nice GUI, let them see a friendly interface when they've installed linux. Lots of little games, a quick and easy way to get on the net.
The users will eventually learn more and more, if they're the least bit technically interested, and will grow up to be the next generation of unix gurus. The command prompt will always be more powerful, and they'll eventually learn it. I don't see how you could do stuff like wc -l `find -name "*.[ch]"` in a GUI.
And if they're not technically interested? Just let them enjoy a crashproof OS, so that they can use a computer like it was intended - as a tool. Most people just want their computer to *work*. They don't want their OS to hang multiple times a day, or having to reinstall it every couple of months.. Linux: It Just Works(tm):)
You can combine a friendly OS for non technical users and a powerful interface for us geeks. They're not mutually exclusive.
The thing i like about KDE is that the rest of my family (mostly computer illiterate) can sit down at a KDE desktop and start using it directly.
Most everything is where a windows user would expect it to be, yet it's different and more powerful enough for them to start recognizing the power of linux.
KDE makes a newbie linux user feel at home, he's got nice menus for everything and a consistant look and feel among all applications - Things like a windows (or mac) user take for granted.
So now i've started walking down the long road of converting everybody in the house to be linux users, KDE sure makes it a lot easier to convince them not to press the reset button every time they see something that's not windows.
BTW, I dont think any one has the right to whine at other people's code. If you think KDE sucks, don't use it. But don't come insulting the developers, for releasing thousands of hours of hard work for free.
oops:) What i was trying to say is that the unit of measurment are the same. They both use the same basic unit, although with different starting points as you point out.
I know i could use mobile TV.. Just for all those long bus rides back and forth to school. And it even runs linux *drool*:)
But why do people whine so much about an unfortunate joke about americans?:) I get the feeling that if this product would have been developed by an american company, people would have been talking about how cool it is for linux to be used in yet another product..
Yet another standards war, as if we didnt have enough of them already.. The Europeans decide on one thing, and then the Americans go off and develop yet another standard.. But in the end the japaneese wins the game with something thats 3x as smart and cost half of the othe solutions. (Or turn it around all if you like, that's not my point) The world needs everybody to agree on a standard, and not have half a dozen incompatible standards that only work in their own region.
I thought the coming of the internet would signal an end to nationalism.. oh well, maybe in time.
The kelvin scale is acctually the same thing as the celcius temprature scale, ie, one degree kelvin = one degree celcius. The only difference is the starting point.kelvin start out on absolute zero, the celcius scale on the freezing point of water
But the advantage of the celcius scale is that it uses easy figures.. humans are exceptionally good at thinking with powers of 10. (atleast compared to other bases):)
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Out of the six top contries in information tech 4 are Scandinavian: Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway. (The US and Singapore being the other two)
Wish i could back this up with a link, but i forgot where i got it from.
Well, i did you my first install of linux as a complete unix virgin. Heck, i didn't have any clue what it was even (other than i had the notion it was supposed to be "cool").
:)
I had no manuals, no books and no one to ask. All i had was a brief introduction in a magazine telling me about 6 commands. ls,rm,cp,cat and most importantly: man and info! It took me a couple of months to even begin to learn to do anything useful in linux, and i erased it and went back to dos many'a'time.
I realize that most people wouldn't do this nowadays, and why should they?
Pop up a nice GUI, let them see a friendly interface when they've installed linux. Lots of little games, a quick and easy way to get on the net.
The users will eventually learn more and more, if they're the least bit technically interested, and will grow up to be the next generation of unix gurus. The command prompt will always be more powerful, and they'll eventually learn it. I don't see how you could do stuff like wc -l `find -name "*.[ch]"` in a GUI.
And if they're not technically interested? Just let them enjoy a crashproof OS, so that they can use a computer like it was intended - as a tool. Most people just want their computer to *work*. They don't want their OS to hang multiple times a day, or having to reinstall it every couple of months.. Linux: It Just Works(tm)
You can combine a friendly OS for non technical users and a powerful interface for us geeks. They're not mutually exclusive.
The thing i like about KDE is that the rest of my family (mostly computer illiterate) can sit down at a KDE desktop and start using it directly.
Most everything is where a windows user would expect it to be, yet it's different and more powerful enough for them to start recognizing the power of linux.
KDE makes a newbie linux user feel at home, he's got nice menus for everything and a consistant look and feel among all applications - Things like a windows (or mac) user take for granted.
So now i've started walking down the long road of converting everybody in the house to be linux users, KDE sure makes it a lot easier to convince them not to press the reset button every time they see something that's not windows.
BTW, I dont think any one has the right to whine at other people's code. If you think KDE sucks, don't use it. But don't come insulting the developers, for releasing thousands of hours of hard work for free.
oops :)
What i was trying to say is that the unit of measurment are the same. They both use the same basic unit, although with different starting points as you point out.
I know i could use mobile TV.. Just for all those long bus rides back and forth to school. And it even runs linux *drool* :)
:)
But why do people whine so much about an unfortunate joke about americans?
I get the feeling that if this product would have been developed by an american company, people would have been talking about how cool it is for linux to be used in yet another product..
Yet another standards war, as if we didnt have enough of them already.. The Europeans decide on one thing, and then the Americans go off and develop yet another standard.. But in the end the japaneese wins the game with something thats 3x as smart and cost half of the othe solutions. (Or turn it around all if you like, that's not my point) The world needs everybody to agree on a standard, and not have half a dozen incompatible standards that only work in their own region.
I thought the coming of the internet would signal an end to nationalism.. oh well, maybe in time.
-henrik
The kelvin scale is acctually the same thing as the celcius temprature scale, ie, one degree kelvin = one degree celcius. The only difference is the starting point.kelvin start out on absolute zero, the celcius scale on the freezing point of water
:)
:)
But the advantage of the celcius scale is that it uses easy figures.. humans are exceptionally good at thinking with powers of 10. (atleast compared to other bases)
BTW, this is getting way off topic..