Is how quickly the government will be wanting to sink it's hooks into this info! Even if it is used strictly to annoy^H^H^H^H^Hadvertise to us more effectively, I never asked for this. I never wanted it from the beginning and I just found out that simply ignoring the banners is not enough to keep from being tracked. I applaud/. for putting this up, despite their own banner ads.
As far as the advertiser-apologists who are saying that this is the only way the web exists today, I would like to point out that the links on the slashdot front-page get far more trust and clickage than any 1"x5" piece of animated fluff at top of the page.
Let your freinds know all about it with this link.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Allow cookies in Netscape. Change the cookies file permissions to read-only.
I used to do this...Unfortunately most of my browsing is now at work on IE. But this gives me another idea...Why not FOok with them a little, and make up a generic cookies file (zipped folder for Microsoft-users) that has one person's, say a fictitious one's userid in it (wouldn't that be as simple as changing the text of the cookie?) If enough people were all hitting the web at once with this could you imagine the marketing dept's greif...
"Good god that Mike Rotch fellow goes everywhere!"
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Having a smoking section in a resturant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.
I think Dana has it right, you can have a non-peeing section in a pool, but the pee still drifts over there from the peeing section...much like when you sit in a restaurant's "non smoking" section, you are frequently greeted with tobacco odors. IMO the ventilation and ceiling height has a lot to do with this also. I notice in establishments that have higher ceilings and ceiling fans, the non-smoking section is noticeably more pleasant than say a small pub where the AC is broke. This from a smoker.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
I've been tempted for a long time to put Cheapbytes.com stickers on every RedHat box set I can find in a retail setting, pointing out to potential consumers that they should order a cheapbytes CD and then purchase a good O'Reilly book from a third party.
Although I'm not too sure whether the GPL permits you to do this, I would think the store owners may have something to say about it. Have fun when you go. Personally I'm happy that there are newbies buying Red Hat off the shelves, because not only do they get support from Red Hat this way, but it also helps insure that Red Hat 7 will be there for cheapbits to sell cheap and Mandrake to pick upon. I always offer my CD's to those who want to install and try out linux but I also reccomend they look at the boxed versions, mainly for the support they'll be getting.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Unfortunately most of the cool ones are. That is the main reason the bitterness overfloweth here:/ I think we all realize that there are great women out there, but they all seem to be taken by the time we find them. What we all (the single ones at least) need around here is a monster.com for dating (Maybe someting to pass up to Andover.net?).
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Is it just me or does this seem short sighted? I mean, it's great that there's such free, easy access but how are they going to pay for continuing research to keep it current?
Won't this just lead to the end of the Encyclopedia Brittanica?
My guess is it'll lead to clickthrough sponsorship.
Please help support our sponsors! Click here to vote for us in the "top 100"!
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
There are even a few that works on win32 like gimp (that has a decent win32 version)
Where is this? I looked all over their webpage and didn't see it. The FTP sites I was able to get into only had Linux tarballs. If there is a win32 port I *really* want it here at work.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
While not the most bleeding edge form of entertainment out there,they still thrive online due to CS students everywhere. The premise is about the same here, only I'm not certain exactly what license it falls under (there is a lot of gaurded, horded code due to the competition between muds.) Of course there is a fair share of people who will take advantage of any openness of the code, however as you say, it's all part of the fun.
mcrandello@my-deja.com rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
For most of my online discourse, etc, I use my deja-news email address, check it about once a wekk to delete all the spam and answer the occasional real letter, etc. If I were a windows/AOl user it would have saved my ass on at least one occassion. Like when I opened a message and saw text looking roughly like;
Begin Happy99.exe--------------- oiuDHFlisdhfoi(&#*OHQI#RFIfnlkH*@ #YR*OWHFNKJSF83ulleoirjeoirjerpte 3-2uirposd;foksd;gotj;osgpd[sepdj
Needless to say I about laughed my ass off, then emailed the sender back to run a virus checker on his system. The Deja account also does not render HTML, so there is no chance of a java bomb waiting in my inbox.
Perhaps AOL and a few other of the big boy ISPs could get a clue here and strongly push this option to new users. Maybe they could even offer two email addresses, one for pop retreival on the client's machine and one web-based one that the world gets to see whenever they post somewhere or chat or do whatever they do on AOL. May cost a little up front, but would definately minimize the effect of this sort of thing...
Now, how do we persuade people to use simple mail clients that actually do just what they need with *NO* fancy features?
Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible. When the Luser sees something flashy, they want it, period. If they get a mail entitled "Check this thing out, it's Soooooo cool'" then guess what happens. It doesn't matter the mail client either-they see something that sounds like the next 'frog-in-a-blender' and they'll open it. Nothing you or I can do to stop it either. I know OE>4 gives warnings about posting to Usenet in HTML excessive quoting, etc...why don't they put automatic warnings in about running programs that come as attachments?
is not designed, manufactured, or intended for use or resale as on-line control equipment in hazardous environments requiring fail-safe performance, such as in the operation of nuclear facilities, aircraft navigation or communication systems, air traffic control, direct life support machines, or weapons systems,
There is something similar (if not identical) to this in the Star-Office I D/L'ed the other day. Makes me wonder exactly what part of it *could* be used to control life support or air traffic control systems...
I just recently saw the "Complete Linux" set out at a retail store. Interesting. Anyone have this and know how it differs from Mandrake, aside from some extra packages?
Also I saw this one; "Even so, the partnership is non-exclusive; you can buy non-Macmillan copies from MandrakeSoft, but you have to look pretty hard for a store that sells them."
I just picked up the premier issue of Maximum Linux at the supermarket, complete with a Mandrake 6 CD. Anyone else see this magazine? The best I can figure is that Mandrake may become Macmillian Lite?
Look up a few posts, our fellow posters are enabling you not only to log in, but also giving you a way to stick it to 'da man' by not playing their rules. Or something like that.
The only thing that bothered me was when I went in one day to find that the AP newsfeed had been replaced by reuters, and there were like 3 articles total in the newsfeed section. Now I get all my news here;P
If someone replies to (and includes) your post without the X-Archive-yes:no (or whatever that blasted header is) enabled then it still gets archived in a way, does it not? I think I found this perusing a discussion on deja.com...
She switched from her company mandated Microsoft (un)Natural Keyboard to an old IBM break-spring (the one with the nice-click) keyboard. Her doctor suggested the IBM keyboard, because you have to hit it harder than her old Microsoft (un)Natural keyboard. I tried using her old Microsoft keyboard, and it made my hands ache.
This is exactly what I did. I actually learned typing on an old IBM typewriter, and used the original ps/2's when I worked as a student lab assistant...Being used to hearing an ^CLICK^ whenever the key was pressed I actually started "mushing" the keys on my newer keyboard to make sure I had the damn thing pressed. Of course the newer IBM's aren't near as nice, so whenever I see one at a thrift shop or electronics clearing house I get it (if it's under 10$, most are around 2$). The really cool ones have a detachable cable so you can have both an AT and PS/2 style cord on it.
Come on, why won't we fix the problem? The fundamental problem with computers in general (for beginners) is that they are hard to use. They aren't like coffee-machines or game-consoles.
Or VCR's. I still can't get mine to work;P I'm a recovering Windows user, and for the most part using RH6 is at least as easy as the first time I tried to use Windows 95.
The fundemental problem with computers exists most often between the chair and keyboard. Hoew much easier is it supposed to be exactly when Microsoft even takes care to put a help entry two or three spots up the bottom from the start menu? The guy in this story saw the words README and didn't even think to check there first.
Don't get me wrong though...It gives me hope that Red Hat may be onto something basing their business off of supporting people. They'll always need it.
Slashdot Mirror
Is how quickly the government will be wanting to sink it's hooks into this info! Even if it is used strictly to annoy^H^H^H^H^Hadvertise to us more effectively, I never asked for this. I never wanted it from the beginning and I just found out that simply ignoring the banners is not enough to keep from being tracked. I applaud /. for putting this up, despite their own banner ads.
As far as the advertiser-apologists who are saying that this is the only way the web exists today, I would like to point out that the links on the slashdot front-page get far more trust and clickage than any 1"x5" piece of animated fluff at top of the page.
Let your freinds know all about it with this link.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Allow cookies in Netscape. Change the cookies file permissions to read-only.
I used to do this...Unfortunately most of my browsing is now at work on IE. But this gives me another idea...Why not FOok with them a little, and make up a generic cookies file (zipped folder for Microsoft-users) that has one person's, say a fictitious one's userid in it (wouldn't that be as simple as changing the text of the cookie?) If enough people were all hitting the web at once with this could you imagine the marketing dept's greif...
"Good god that Mike Rotch fellow goes everywhere!"
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Having a smoking section in a resturant is like having a peeing section in a swimming pool.
I think Dana has it right, you can have a non-peeing section in a pool, but the pee still drifts over there from the peeing section...much like when you sit in a restaurant's "non smoking" section, you are frequently greeted with tobacco odors. IMO the ventilation and ceiling height has a lot to do with this also. I notice in establishments that have higher ceilings and ceiling fans, the non-smoking section is noticeably more pleasant than say a small pub where the AC is broke. This from a smoker.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
I've been tempted for a long time to put Cheapbytes.com stickers on every RedHat box set I can find in a retail setting, pointing out to potential consumers that they should order a cheapbytes CD and then purchase a good O'Reilly book from a third party.
Although I'm not too sure whether the GPL permits you to do this, I would think the store owners may have something to say about it. Have fun when you go. Personally I'm happy that there are newbies buying Red Hat off the shelves, because not only do they get support from Red Hat this way, but it also helps insure that Red Hat 7 will be there for cheapbits to sell cheap and Mandrake to pick upon. I always offer my CD's to those who want to install and try out linux but I also reccomend they look at the boxed versions, mainly for the support they'll be getting.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
-- unfortunately, i'm sorta 'taken.'
:/ I think we all realize that there are great women out there, but they all seem to be taken by the time we find them. What we all (the single ones at least) need around here is a monster.com for dating (Maybe someting to pass up to Andover.net?).
Unfortunately most of the cool ones are. That is the main reason the bitterness overfloweth here
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
Is it just me or does this seem short sighted? I mean, it's great that there's such free, easy access but how are they going to pay for continuing research to keep it current?
Won't this just lead to the end of the Encyclopedia Brittanica?
My guess is it'll lead to clickthrough sponsorship.
Please help support our sponsors!
Click here to vote for us in the "top 100"!
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
There are even a few that works on win32 like gimp (that has a decent win32 version)
Where is this? I looked all over their webpage and didn't see it. The FTP sites I was able to get into only had Linux tarballs. If there is a win32 port I *really* want it here at work.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
http://www.dikumud.com/
While not the most bleeding edge form of entertainment out there,they still thrive online due to CS students everywhere. The premise is about the same here, only I'm not certain exactly what license it falls under (there is a lot of gaurded, horded code due to the competition between muds.) Of course there is a fair share of people who will take advantage of any openness of the code, however as you say, it's all part of the fun.
mcrandello@my-deja.com
rschaar{at}pegasus.cc.ucf.edu if it's important.
For most of my online discourse, etc, I use my deja-news email address, check it about once a wekk to delete all the spam and answer the occasional real letter, etc. If I were a windows/AOl user it would have saved my ass on at least one occassion. Like when I opened a message and saw text looking roughly like;
Begin Happy99.exe---------------
oiuDHFlisdhfoi(&#*OHQI#RFIfnlkH*@
#YR*OWHFNKJSF83ulleoirjeoirjerpte
3-2uirposd;foksd;gotj;osgpd[sepdj
Needless to say I about laughed my ass off, then emailed the sender back to run a virus checker on his system. The Deja account also does not render HTML, so there is no chance of a java bomb waiting in my inbox.
Perhaps AOL and a few other of the big boy ISPs could get a clue here and strongly push this option to new users. Maybe they could even offer two email addresses, one for pop retreival on the client's machine and one web-based one that the world gets to see whenever they post somewhere or chat or do whatever they do on AOL. May cost a little up front, but would definately minimize the effect of this sort of thing...
Q. WHY THE HELL do you want AOL passwords?
:D
A. They were pissed off 'cause their hundred free hours cd arrived with a scratch in it.
Now, how do we persuade people to use simple mail clients that actually do just what they need with *NO* fancy features?
Unfortunately, I don't think it's possible. When the Luser sees something flashy, they want it, period. If they get a mail entitled "Check this thing out, it's Soooooo cool'" then guess what happens. It doesn't matter the mail client either-they see something that sounds like the next 'frog-in-a-blender' and they'll open it. Nothing you or I can do to stop it either. I know OE>4 gives warnings about posting to Usenet in HTML excessive quoting, etc...why don't they put automatic warnings in about running programs that come as attachments?
is not designed, manufactured, or intended for use or resale as on-line control equipment in hazardous environments requiring fail-safe performance, such as in the operation of nuclear facilities, aircraft navigation or communication systems, air traffic control, direct life support machines, or weapons systems,
There is something similar (if not identical) to this in the Star-Office I D/L'ed the other day. Makes me wonder exactly what part of it *could* be used to control life support or air traffic control systems...
McRANdello
I just recently saw the "Complete Linux" set out at a retail store. Interesting. Anyone have this and know how it differs from Mandrake, aside from some extra packages?
Also I saw this one;
"Even so, the partnership is non-exclusive; you can buy non-Macmillan copies from MandrakeSoft, but you have to look pretty hard for a store that sells them."
I just picked up the premier issue of Maximum Linux at the supermarket, complete with a Mandrake 6 CD. Anyone else see this magazine? The best I can figure is that Mandrake may become Macmillian Lite?
Look up a few posts, our fellow posters are enabling you not only to log in, but also giving you a way to stick it to 'da man' by not playing their rules. Or something like that.
;P
The only thing that bothered me was when I went in one day to find that the AP newsfeed had been replaced by reuters, and there were like 3 articles total in the newsfeed section. Now I get all my news here
McRAndelLo
If someone replies to (and includes) your post without the X-Archive-yes:no (or whatever that blasted header is) enabled then it still gets archived in a way, does it not? I think I found this perusing a discussion on deja.com...
MCRAndello
Makes me wonder if that wasn't a typo or misprint...
She switched from her company mandated Microsoft (un)Natural Keyboard to an old IBM break-spring (the one with the nice-click) keyboard. Her doctor suggested the IBM keyboard, because you have to hit it harder than her old Microsoft (un)Natural keyboard. I tried using her old Microsoft keyboard, and it made my hands ache.
This is exactly what I did. I actually learned typing on an old IBM typewriter, and used the original ps/2's when I worked as a student lab assistant...Being used to hearing an ^CLICK^ whenever the key was pressed I actually started "mushing" the keys on my newer keyboard to make sure I had the damn thing pressed. Of course the newer IBM's aren't near as nice, so whenever I see one at a thrift shop or electronics clearing house I get it (if it's under 10$, most are around 2$). The really cool ones have a detachable cable so you can have both an AT and PS/2 style cord on it.
McRANdello
Revolutionize? Give me a break. Its just another computer.
Perhaps they mean that with the money they're saving they can afford toilet-paper for the kids now.
Come on, why won't we fix the problem? The fundamental problem with computers in general (for beginners) is that they are hard to use. They aren't like coffee-machines or game-consoles.
Or VCR's. I still can't get mine to work;P
I'm a recovering Windows user, and for the most part using RH6 is at least as easy as the first time I tried to use Windows 95.
The fundemental problem with computers exists most often between the chair and keyboard. Hoew much easier is it supposed to be exactly when Microsoft even takes care to put a help entry two or three spots up the bottom from the start menu? The guy in this story saw the words README and didn't even think to check there first.
Don't get me wrong though...It gives me hope that Red Hat may be onto something basing their business off of supporting people. They'll always need it.