It is called Leopard, it was ment to be a simple programming language. The whole idea was for young people to have an easy way to learn Windows programming and it does work.
Here is the link:
http://www.leopardprogramming.com/documentation.ph p
Them buy what we produce? They don't "have the money" that we have, the "can't afford" what we produce. Why would they buy something made here here $3000.00 US when they can wait a month and buy it from somebody else (in another country) for $1500.00?
This statement is just wrong--
"that if we can make a product they want, that it becomes
viable". If we make a product they really want, some other country will start production and undercut what we (in the US) can afford to sell it for.
Yes, then there are those around Chicago,IL that are real tired of it (broadband) going down and staying down on holiday weekends when people want it, often slower access times for simple things like accessing email than dial-up (unless you're the 3am crowd), more spamm email than dial-up. In fact, I know people that "went back to dial-up" after having broadband-both DSL and Cable. Several of them run businesses (money is not the problem). Dial-up is just more dependable and easier to manage in this area.
When you have to explain that "Windows" is the pretty blue screen,how to add an address to email,things are pretty bad. Then there is that real frightening thing to do--cut and paste--the text turns white then it disappears. Windows start pop-up menu and programs?
Maybe it is time to re-think the graphical interface????????--and automate a few things like clean and defrag the hard drive.
No, the special glasses were for the older monitors. You do not need tham for the newer CRT or LCD ones. What I use (and that is what my MD eye doctor recommends) are just reading glasses. That's the doctor prescribed kind, not the cheapo bought for $5 at the store kind (the cheapo kind can further damage your eyes). Also, spend some more time away from the computer--like going for a walk outside. That helps you eyes adjust to distance.
There are many POTENTIAL operating systems out there, including modular ones (my favorite, does not waste resources with what you don't need), the undeveloped Sphere OS (Modular in a VMWare sort of way), Forth OS (It's a start), eye-candy Zeta. Of course, while we're at at, let's entirely re-think the clunky Graphical User Interface.
The GUI really has not improved since the early Mac Days. We could work on that too.
Ideas? Could we do away with the seperate programs to the end-user idea and the big-ego screens?
john666seven@yahoo.com
I also have a bad short-term memory. The Internet can be a wonderful source of information. It also can be the source for incredibly poor and lop-sided information. Corporations on the Internet only respond if they feel like it and only tell you what they want you to know-that is not a good situation. There is no easy way for the average person to reduce some searches from 80 pages of results and often the pages you find have been switched or moved when you follow the links. That is why many young adults prefer to use the fast, efficient library instead of the Internet. Given the current Internet situation, I do not blame them.
This needs to be done:
1) Clean up the bad links and the ones that obviously been switched. 2) Add an easy way for people to reduce searches by adding ways to do that to the web browser. 3) Corporations stop "Lording it Over You" and only telling you what they want you to hear (I know "good luck").
1) You are assuming that everyone in the world wants a computer or has a use for one. I think that you will find that the assumption that everyone has a use for a computer is wrong.
2) Intel is angry that they are not Intel processors that's obvious.
3) From what I can find, the computers will be used to access the internet (no use for big programs there), write lessons, do other simple things. They are not made to write code, handle the latest AI programs.
4)It will be Linux based--you know there is pressure from "the other company" on Intel to make such statements, as usual.
Open Source software always works for me, I've never had a problem with it.
I find that (in Windows XP) Open Source is "just as good" and more stable than what comes from Redmond (in theory Redmond, in most cases it was written elseware).
There were some buggy Linux printer drivers a few years ago, but the ones that I use at home on my 7 computers (and Ubuntu Linux)in the past two years, are not buggy, and often do a better job imaging than the ones that Windows uses.
The only real "bug" in Ubuntu (that I have found)is installing the printer drivers (they might have changed that in this release)--they don't install "like Windows" and not quite like the GUI indicates.
These students are very bright, they know the history. Most IT Pro's are "to expensive" after 10 to 12 years and then let go (the "information poor"). Good luck finding another job in the same field. Human resource people will $$assume$$ that you are too experienced, therefore you "will want too much money" (they don't bother to ask, they just assume and file that application).
These students also have spreadsheets--can they afford a decent home, and paying for college and university (you remember, those student loans that can take 30 years to pay off) and car payments (remember insurance for that new car) and things like food and clothing (and you know, maybe children too--a very popular item that most people want)? Where will they have to relocate to find this job?
Use your spreadsheets, you will really be amazed at the answers far as money is concerned (like-NO, it is NOT possible #NOW#). Remember to include the future value of money in you calculations.
Yes, Excel does run slightly faster than Calc--who cares?
It is easer to use. At 2'5 GHz you don't notice. Personally, I only use Excel for training to use Calc better (it works) since there is lots more information on Excel. By the way, I have found
that Word 2003 as part of the full office suite is the most unstable word processor on the face of the planet--it has destroyed it's own documents for me. do you want to type 27 pages all over again because Word had a problem while you had the document open??? NO,I didn't think so....
Yes, they can CO-Exist, however, China is a communist country and one of the few where those ideas work for the most part. Therefore providing a free operating system for the people is the way that they will eventually g0----with Microsoft mostly for the new crowd that is in business for themselves and doing business for the US and Canada--like programming for Microsoft.
I would like to point out that not all programs for Linux are free. If you don't want a canned program,
you have to pay the programmers, so people DO GET PAID.
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It is called Leopard, it was ment to be a simple programming language. The whole idea was for young people to have an easy way to learn Windows programming and it does work. Here is the link: http://www.leopardprogramming.com/documentation.ph p
Them buy what we produce? They don't "have the money" that we have, the "can't afford" what we produce. Why would they buy something made here here $3000.00 US when they can wait a month and buy it from somebody else (in another country) for $1500.00? This statement is just wrong-- "that if we can make a product they want, that it becomes viable". If we make a product they really want, some other country will start production and undercut what we (in the US) can afford to sell it for.
Yes, then there are those around Chicago,IL that are real tired of it (broadband) going down and staying down on holiday weekends when people want it, often slower access times for simple things like accessing email than dial-up (unless you're the 3am crowd), more spamm email than dial-up. In fact, I know people that "went back to dial-up" after having broadband-both DSL and Cable. Several of them run businesses (money is not the problem). Dial-up is just more dependable and easier to manage in this area.
Guys, it is now only "unfair", it is illegal to make agreements like that. It will be taken to court I'm sure.
When you have to explain that "Windows" is the pretty blue screen,how to add an address to email,things are pretty bad. Then there is that real frightening thing to do--cut and paste--the text turns white then it disappears. Windows start pop-up menu and programs? Maybe it is time to re-think the graphical interface????????--and automate a few things like clean and defrag the hard drive.
No, the special glasses were for the older monitors. You do not need tham for the newer CRT or LCD ones. What I use (and that is what my MD eye doctor recommends) are just reading glasses. That's the doctor prescribed kind, not the cheapo bought for $5 at the store kind (the cheapo kind can further damage your eyes). Also, spend some more time away from the computer--like going for a walk outside. That helps you eyes adjust to distance.
There are many POTENTIAL operating systems out there, including modular ones (my favorite, does not waste resources with what you don't need), the undeveloped Sphere OS (Modular in a VMWare sort of way), Forth OS (It's a start), eye-candy Zeta. Of course, while we're at at, let's entirely re-think the clunky Graphical User Interface. The GUI really has not improved since the early Mac Days. We could work on that too. Ideas? Could we do away with the seperate programs to the end-user idea and the big-ego screens? john666seven@yahoo.com
I also have a bad short-term memory. The Internet can be a wonderful source of information. It also can be the source for incredibly poor and lop-sided information.
Corporations on the Internet only respond if they feel like it and only tell you what they want you to know-that is not a good situation. There is no easy way for the average person to reduce some searches from 80 pages of results and often the pages you find have been switched or moved when you follow the links. That is why many young adults prefer to use the fast, efficient library instead of the Internet. Given the current Internet situation, I do not blame them.
This needs to be done:
1) Clean up the bad links and the ones that obviously been switched.
2) Add an easy way for people to reduce searches by adding ways to do that to the web browser.
3) Corporations stop "Lording it Over You" and only telling you what they want you to hear (I know "good luck").
1) You are assuming that everyone in the world wants a computer or has a use for one. I think that you will find that the assumption that everyone has a use for a computer is wrong. 2) Intel is angry that they are not Intel processors that's obvious. 3) From what I can find, the computers will be used to access the internet (no use for big programs there), write lessons, do other simple things. They are not made to write code, handle the latest AI programs. 4)It will be Linux based--you know there is pressure from "the other company" on Intel to make such statements, as usual.
Open Source software always works for me, I've never had a problem with it. I find that (in Windows XP) Open Source is "just as good" and more stable than what comes from Redmond (in theory Redmond, in most cases it was written elseware). There were some buggy Linux printer drivers a few years ago, but the ones that I use at home on my 7 computers (and Ubuntu Linux)in the past two years, are not buggy, and often do a better job imaging than the ones that Windows uses. The only real "bug" in Ubuntu (that I have found)is installing the printer drivers (they might have changed that in this release)--they don't install "like Windows" and not quite like the GUI indicates.
These students are very bright, they know the history. Most IT Pro's are "to expensive" after 10 to 12 years and then let go (the "information poor"). Good luck finding another job in the same field. Human resource people will $$assume$$ that you are too experienced, therefore you "will want too much money" (they don't bother to ask, they just assume and file that application). These students also have spreadsheets--can they afford a decent home, and paying for college and university (you remember, those student loans that can take 30 years to pay off) and car payments (remember insurance for that new car) and things like food and clothing (and you know, maybe children too--a very popular item that most people want)? Where will they have to relocate to find this job? Use your spreadsheets, you will really be amazed at the answers far as money is concerned (like-NO, it is NOT possible #NOW#). Remember to include the future value of money in you calculations.
Yes, Excel does run slightly faster than Calc--who cares? It is easer to use. At 2'5 GHz you don't notice. Personally, I only use Excel for training to use Calc better (it works) since there is lots more information on Excel. By the way, I have found that Word 2003 as part of the full office suite is the most unstable word processor on the face of the planet--it has destroyed it's own documents for me. do you want to type 27 pages all over again because Word had a problem while you had the document open??? NO,I didn't think so....
Yes, they can CO-Exist, however, China is a communist country and one of the few where those ideas work for the most part. Therefore providing a free operating system for the people is the way that they will eventually g0----with Microsoft mostly for the new crowd that is in business for themselves and doing business for the US and Canada--like programming for Microsoft. I would like to point out that not all programs for Linux are free. If you don't want a canned program, you have to pay the programmers, so people DO GET PAID.