morality can be reasoned out quite simply with "don't do things you wouldn't want done to you". religious concepts are just a convenient way of getting the arseholes of the world to apply that one rule, or they'll be punished by someone bigger and stronger than them for all eternity.
unfortunately, there appears to be plenty of evidence for the latter as well.
certainly independently evolved cultures all seem to practice religion of some kind. i've yet to find any culture that has no religion (communism does not count - in all cases the old religion has been practiced in secret, and besides, communist philosophy is not much more than a religion anyway).
you take something on faith because it cannot be proven. not because you don't have the time to personally learn the science and prove it yourself.
if something CAN and HAS been proven, by anyone, then how can it be a matter of faith that you believe it? it's more a matter of whether you choose to prove it yourself out of scepticism or curiosity.
an article of faith can never be proven by anyone. that's what makes it faith.
say you're a scientist, minding your own business, and the rather right-wing government that you're not a big fan of makes you an offer you can't refuse?
Germany went down a slippery slope too. avoid at all costs people who tell you what you want to hear.
at that time, only the lucky, or those with more than the usual foresight left when they could. if your life is in Germany, you're not going to leave until it's too late and there's war. and then you're held to ransom, especially if you have family.
it's quite telling that this was modded "funny"...
unfortunately the skillbase is rapidly ensuring that local made stuff will have less quality and higher price than the "cheap and nasty" Chinese counterparts.
it's a race to the bottom, and in most sectors, the bottom has been hit.
now that manufacturing is all but dead, and the internet has made retail all but dead, what will everybody do now they've been obsoleted? they can't work a factory, they can't work retail, they can't afford to live without a job.
well done, western world. we've all fucked ourselves.
stamp a logo on a piece of fashion, or make the logo fashionable, and BOOM!, you're in the pockets of the local legislators.
look at louis vuitton et al. thanks to them there's big scary posters all over the airports in europe, and they're more concerned with searching you for faked brands than drugs, biosecurity risks or weapons. shit, they probably only ask you to take your boots off so they can check that they're legit.
the big fashion companies make their cash off trademarks, certainly not the (usually very ugly) cuts of their clothing.
data as courts see it (because they are slow and unwieldy buckets of inertia) exists on your hard disk.
if encrypted traffic is the standard, the norm, the accepted and taken for granted way things "just are", then you could run tor and nobody would have any idea.
the problem with the current internet is that it's run for so long without encryption. as technology marches on, hopefully encryption will be on by default.
governments want security as well as control. perhaps we can tip the balance one way rather than the other.
as much as corporations talk the talk about free markets, they all want to be a monopoly. they all want 100% market capitalization.
yes, we're free to choose between several walled gardens, and a precious few open platforms. give the corporations their way, and the shiniest, sexiest walled garden would become monopoly, and there'd be just as much control as you'd get from a censor-happy government.
governments and corporations all want control, but for different reasons.
i heard there was a union somewhere, but i don't know a single person who's a member. i could have used one when i was still doing post. i could use one now i'm back making DVDs. i'm not sure they're taken seriously.
that said, they're not needed as much as in a country with no real social safety nets in place. as much as the pay in the aussie film industry is about as shit as it gets (i'd make more stacking shelves - seriously), life isn't so bad.
also people HAVE to stop working for free. i don't care how good your short film is, i'm not going to grade it for free. you wouldn't take your car to a mechanic and ask them to fix it for free because it's a really good car.
we wouldn't have the budget to even send you the tapes via fedex.
film and TV in Australia is fucked. all the talent either gets beaten down in a shitty job, or moves overseas.
our major funding bodies are basically a circle-jerk for friends of people on the board. any funding you get is a poison chalice, because no matter how small the contribution, you have to slap a big ugly logo fullscreen at the end of your film. you also can't get discounts because the government funding requires budgeting to be done by the book, so in some cases you end up paying more (post houses in particular will charge full rates if funding is involved, but obviously not if a person is self-funded).
through all that though, those of us who aren't too jaded can put a decent show together on a shoestring (or bungy-cord steadycam)
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logic fail.
morality is how one should conduct themselves.
truth is how things are.
these are different things.
morality can be reasoned out quite simply with "don't do things you wouldn't want done to you". religious concepts are just a convenient way of getting the arseholes of the world to apply that one rule, or they'll be punished by someone bigger and stronger than them for all eternity.
i don't mind the implicit definition being preferring a lie to the truth, and fighting for the lie when underneath you know it is a lie.
i would certainly say that fighting wars for a lie is a pretty evil thing.
unfortunately, there appears to be plenty of evidence for the latter as well.
certainly independently evolved cultures all seem to practice religion of some kind. i've yet to find any culture that has no religion (communism does not count - in all cases the old religion has been practiced in secret, and besides, communist philosophy is not much more than a religion anyway).
this argument is retarded.
you take something on faith because it cannot be proven. not because you don't have the time to personally learn the science and prove it yourself.
if something CAN and HAS been proven, by anyone, then how can it be a matter of faith that you believe it? it's more a matter of whether you choose to prove it yourself out of scepticism or curiosity.
an article of faith can never be proven by anyone. that's what makes it faith.
yeah, but the aircon is on the fritz again and we're freezing our tits off.
citation needed.
then the OFLC^W^W^W^WCOB^W^W^W Classification Board will eat them for breakfast.
you mean they've given up on that trademark?
sweet!
they listen in their capacity of policy making.
we all know modern policy is simply a matter of responding to market research.
laws typically do not apply retrospectively.
this would clearly violate a sovereign state, such as it is.
Occupy Sealand! they are the %0.0001!
coincidentally, i put this series on DVD in australia.
it's called "ultimate factories" in the USA.
the US car factories episodes are interesting in that most of the building is done in Mexico and Canada.
say you're a scientist, minding your own business, and the rather right-wing government that you're not a big fan of makes you an offer you can't refuse?
Germany went down a slippery slope too. avoid at all costs people who tell you what you want to hear.
at that time, only the lucky, or those with more than the usual foresight left when they could. if your life is in Germany, you're not going to leave until it's too late and there's war. and then you're held to ransom, especially if you have family.
things aren't so black and white.
so much Godwin...
TSA agent with passport in hand, google in the other. it's not hard to social-network stalk somebody.
from the quoted article:
"(For statistical reasons, I chose to use figures that include mining and utilities as part of manufacturing.)"
i'd like to know those statistical reasons.
it's quite telling that this was modded "funny"...
unfortunately the skillbase is rapidly ensuring that local made stuff will have less quality and higher price than the "cheap and nasty" Chinese counterparts.
it's a race to the bottom, and in most sectors, the bottom has been hit.
now that manufacturing is all but dead, and the internet has made retail all but dead, what will everybody do now they've been obsoleted? they can't work a factory, they can't work retail, they can't afford to live without a job.
well done, western world. we've all fucked ourselves.
any troll post that derides another's grammar must itself contain a grammatical error.
it's the law of conservation of idiocy.
it also makes for a fantastic meta troll, which we are both responding to.
i doff my hat to you, sir.
stamp a logo on a piece of fashion, or make the logo fashionable, and BOOM!, you're in the pockets of the local legislators.
look at louis vuitton et al. thanks to them there's big scary posters all over the airports in europe, and they're more concerned with searching you for faked brands than drugs, biosecurity risks or weapons. shit, they probably only ask you to take your boots off so they can check that they're legit.
the big fashion companies make their cash off trademarks, certainly not the (usually very ugly) cuts of their clothing.
data as courts see it (because they are slow and unwieldy buckets of inertia) exists on your hard disk.
if encrypted traffic is the standard, the norm, the accepted and taken for granted way things "just are", then you could run tor and nobody would have any idea.
the problem with the current internet is that it's run for so long without encryption. as technology marches on, hopefully encryption will be on by default.
governments want security as well as control. perhaps we can tip the balance one way rather than the other.
as much as corporations talk the talk about free markets, they all want to be a monopoly. they all want 100% market capitalization.
yes, we're free to choose between several walled gardens, and a precious few open platforms. give the corporations their way, and the shiniest, sexiest walled garden would become monopoly, and there'd be just as much control as you'd get from a censor-happy government.
governments and corporations all want control, but for different reasons.
hang on... what union?
i heard there was a union somewhere, but i don't know a single person who's a member. i could have used one when i was still doing post. i could use one now i'm back making DVDs. i'm not sure they're taken seriously.
that said, they're not needed as much as in a country with no real social safety nets in place. as much as the pay in the aussie film industry is about as shit as it gets (i'd make more stacking shelves - seriously), life isn't so bad.
also people HAVE to stop working for free. i don't care how good your short film is, i'm not going to grade it for free. you wouldn't take your car to a mechanic and ask them to fix it for free because it's a really good car.
if you're upset about only seeing north america, you'll be more upset when you see the crud in the gulf of mexico clearly visible.
we wouldn't have the budget to even send you the tapes via fedex.
film and TV in Australia is fucked. all the talent either gets beaten down in a shitty job, or moves overseas.
our major funding bodies are basically a circle-jerk for friends of people on the board. any funding you get is a poison chalice, because no matter how small the contribution, you have to slap a big ugly logo fullscreen at the end of your film. you also can't get discounts because the government funding requires budgeting to be done by the book, so in some cases you end up paying more (post houses in particular will charge full rates if funding is involved, but obviously not if a person is self-funded).
through all that though, those of us who aren't too jaded can put a decent show together on a shoestring (or bungy-cord steadycam)