So, if the metric shows Linux gaining ground its valid, but if the metric shows Windows dominating, the numbers are suspect? And we can find all sorts of explanations?
This is like the metrics for the Anthro Global Warming crowd. Any study that suggest geo, solar, and other causes is dismissed. Any bad math is dismissed.
Yes, MS is dominating and not really losing ground. Downloads of Linux are up, but that does not indicate use, it indicates curiousity. Everytime there is a significant release by any of the distro groups, I download it and build a VM out of it, but for use, we stick to W2K3, SharePoint, Office, Visual Studio, and the like. We have a few Unix machines, a few Linux machines, but those are what we call seagull servers. A contractor was contracted to develop a solution and they flew in, shit in our server room and we have to provide the support for this one off system. All because some congressman made a deal to funnel money to them. I love working for the Government. Meanwhile, we provide office and MS SQL (reports, AS, IS) supportable solutions that bypass these seagulls and provide more robust functionality.
By all means, don't deal with the argument, just mod it down.
The fact is, the previous poster didn't like the metrics, so dismissing them is like saying, we don't like the recount in Florida, or we don't like what the General had to say, or we don't like the vote on "American Idol", or we don't like 9/11 report...Well, face it, you guys don't like a lot of things and think something is up when what is reported doesn't jive with what you THINK should be.
So, if the metric shows Linux gaining ground its valid, but if the metric shows Windows dominating, the numbers are suspect? And we can find all sorts of explanations?
This is like the metrics for the Anthro Global Warming crowd. Any study that suggest geo, solar, and other causes is dismissed. Any bad math is dismissed.
Yes, MS is dominating and not really losing ground. Downloads of Linux are up, but that does not indicate use, it indicates curiousity. Everytime there is a significant release by any of the distro groups, I download it and build a VM out of it, but for use, we stick to W2K3, SharePoint, Office, Visual Studio, and the like. We have a few Unix machines, a few Linux machines, but those are what we call seagull servers. A contractor was contracted to develop a solution and they flew in, shit in our server room and we have to provide the support for this one off system. All because some congressman made a deal to funnel money to them. I love working for the Government. Meanwhile, we provide office and MS SQL (reports, AS, IS) supportable solutions that bypass these seagulls and provide more robust functionality.
I know I'm moving off topic and replying to my own post but I'm reminded of a few years ago, I was back in San Diego at the home office, I was the Far East Technical Training Manager for the company and GL had just re-released "Empire Strikes Back". I was in the theater with a bunch of kids who weren't born when it was first released. The kid next to me was mouthing almost every scene and getting all excited at the key points in the movie. When Darth announces he is Luke's father, this kid almost splooged the entire aisle, and reacted as if it were the first time he had heard the line.
Game development is actually on the forefront of computer technology and a lot of useful results come out of them because games push it so hard. Gamers(who don't develop), however, are just subsidizing this.
God bless you, gamers. Without you, we wouldn't have a space program, a Hubble telescope, high impact plastics, modern medicine...oh, wait.
But, after Halo, I think we have enough fodder for the cannons.
Because of gamers, we have a bunch of dorks running around with kanji tatoos without knowing the meanings, but their favorite character has one.
One of our genious coders at work was a die-hard gamer. Used to have his own hours and would work 3 to 4 hours a day, but then he turned out 12 hours worth of code each day. But his entire life was gaming. When he had an online wedding with one of his characters, and nobody from work showed up, he got really ticked and went off the deep end.
We had an intervention.
Now, he's on an 8 hour clock at work, doesn't watch TV and doesn't game. And, we can actually have conversations with him, he doesn't smell, his code is more readable, and we all understand what he's doing, therefor, the entire organization is turning out more and better code.
Remember that scene in "<Redacted>" where they're 'flying' through the contents of the Gibson? That was just a video capture of some day trader dumping his MS stock.
bzzzzt
For even mentioning that movie, your Geek Factor suffers a -10 hit.
You're RPG equivelant is now "Tunnels and Trolls", and your Star Wars equivelant is set to "Jar Jar".
Want to worsen it? Mention that Sandra Bullock movie./p.
Whatever you do, when you meet an alien in space and you are using lasers as propulsion, do not, DO NOT try to back up. This could lead to a serious misunderstanding.
CORRECTION: MS: You've made a career at being unhappy with whatever prevails, right?
Look at this: Unpatched software abounds on user systems, for those of you that want the government to take care of your health care, your roads, what other people are allowed to eat, making sure nobody smokes, ever, why do you balk at MS making you patch your system?
The figures reveal that many people haven't patched their media players and other run-time software: Java, Flash, QuickTime, Adobe Reader, and RealPlayer. This exposes you to infected media files. I'll explain below how you can keep these apps patched and your computer safer.
For those of you that say they should have released it as secure from the get go, show me how Linux was released as secure, without bugs, etc. Show me Moz, show me GIMP, show me any of your OSS applications that were released that way.
Since the browser is the most used on almost any system, show me that all the issues identified have been patched faster than MS patches. Show me that Moz/FF has responded to ALL. Nope, its still has existing issues that have not been patched.
Deal with it, you're pissed at MS for being the top dog. Then you've looked around for the low hanging fruit, that exists for all projects, for your justifications.
Well, despite the mods not liking this modded as informative or insightful (thanks), it has sparked enough conversation to make all of the points and keep the idea from being hidden.
Within the responses are folks who claim they don't like MS for their culture and what they perceive as their wrongs and based on what they think the market would be like without MS.
Also, within the responses are folks who think an OS and major applications can be designed and implemented from the get-go without error.
Then there are response from raving loons who go on to state that I am wrong, then emphasizing their point by making my point using themselves as the proof.
So...
If MS were gone, lets say they dried up because of the DOS 4.0 fiasco...
OS Top Dog would have been IBM, Apple, or Digital Research - Hmmm, they are/were corporate culture, capaptilistic, closed entities that would be in the same place MS occupies today.
Applications Top Dog (office) would have been IBM, Ashton-Tate, Borland, WordPerfect maybe Adobe...hmmm, looks like they have suffered from the same issues as well.
But, how would I know any of this? Well, how would YOU know that it wouldn't be like that? How would you possibly know what the desktop market would look like if MS didn't exist? I'm just basing my suppositions on the past dominant companies that had a real shot. None of them, as far as I can tell, would have balked at filling the vacuum left by MS and not tried to dominate or use the same tactics as MS. Hell, just take a look at the really closed way Apple worked back then. IBM? Forgetaboutit. DR? Sure thing, they would have slapped DeskView and a GUI on-top of DR-DOS and we would have had Doors instead of Windows, and you'd all be complaining that DR was pushing down unasked-for updates to Doors DP SP1.
No, they did use the plans. Not all of the plans they had access to were for what became the current orbitter.
The plans they walked away with and used were for ONE of the concepts that eventually became the shuttle.
Back in those days, there were shuttle plans for pop out jet engines, and all sorts of neat little features. Some made it to the final orbitter drawings, many didn't./p.
CORRECTION: MS: You've made a career at being unhappy with whatever prevails, right?
Look at this: Unpatched software abounds on user systems, for those of you that want the government to take care of your health care, your roads, what other people are allowed to eat, making sure nobody smokes, ever, why do you balk at MS making you patch your system?
The figures reveal that many people haven't patched their media players and other run-time software: Java, Flash, QuickTime, Adobe Reader, and RealPlayer. This exposes you to infected media files. I'll explain below how you can keep these apps patched and your computer safer.
For those of you that say they should have released it as secure from the get go, show me how Linux was released as secure, without bugs, etc. Show me Moz, show me GIMP, show me any of your OSS applications that were released that way.
Since the browser is the most used on almost any system, show me that all the issues identified have been patched faster than MS patches. Show me that Moz/FF has responded to ALL. Nope, its still has existing issues that have not been patched.
Deal with it, you're pissed at MS for being the top dog. Then you've looked around for the low hanging fruit, that exists for all projects, for your justifications.
Well, considering they are named after their attributes, sometimes ironically:
Chesty Lamour
Long John
Chastity Rains
Then, "Victoria Crater" just sounds scary, and frankly, I think a number of OB/GYN's out there would have to have a second degree in spelunking to treat her.
I RTFA, but it doesn't compare Mail Merge. Does Mail Merge have any improvement in OO.o? It used to be completely unusable.
Now, now, if you start mentioning the myriad of problems OO has, then the score could go the other way and Linux.com might have to announce a Microsoft product the winner.
I've got one mod point left. And instead of using it, I'm posting here to let you know that I'd use it on you had I not decided to post to this topic.
But, in the end, you weren't compelling enough.
I was looking for more substance, something that I could use around the water-cooler later this morning. I wanted something that would just hit me at my very core and tell me that, "Yes, all of America is summed up in that very statement, and FlyByPC has his finger on the very pulse of the nation."
Instead, I feel like the prom date, who gets up to the front porch at the end of the evening and gets a handshake and a "I had a nice time."
I don't know about BSD code or other licenses but if they're using GPL code they need to make the sources available, whether they've modified them or not. They can't just refer to the original distributor since they're distributing it themselves.
Why?
Providing a legitimate link to source is just as good. Otherwise, they could be in for chewing up valuable bandwidth and transfer charges.
Besides, why junk up things with multiple copies of the same source? (The only time I could see providing the source locally is if your project uses an older version and the source owner doesn't host older versions.)
If a license is going to require you to provide the source, rather than make sure that the source is available, then piss on it.
BTW: I link, and the link goes out with my distribution.
Not only is the Relational DBMS dead, it is buried.
We now have the Non-relational DBMS. Data is stored in a manner not as it relates to other data, but how it does not relate to other data.
Features of the NRDBMS:
AQL (Accidental Query Language) - Results of an AQ will return all results not requested, thus leaving the user to determine what the unrelated dated represents
Throw - Data is thown against an AQWall filter.
Stick - Returns all data that Sticks to the AQWall: return unit is refered to as a MESS
Residue - Results of a funtion that determines what is missing from the MESS
GUIDO - This is the replacement for a CRUD system. Guess, Insert, Update, Destroy, Offer.
INCEST Layer - Watchdogs the DBMS for accidental pairing of related elements
The NRDBMS is based on a non-column, non-row, non-cell oriented theoretical system outlined in paragraph 1D.10.T of the Savant manual.
Partially Zero? What the fuck does that even mean?
You're right, lets not discuss the assinine laws that prevent green vehicles from being sold in all locales. Let's, instead, get picky over a term. That's more important, isn't it?
They are pointing, as if to say, "It wasn't us, He did it."
Why does there have to be a reason?
"Inconveniet Truth, Part 32" will state that the Universe is losing its alignment and the number of galaxies pointing in the same direction has dropped by.2% in the last eon. The cause? SUV's.
Slashdot Mirror
Marked troll because I pointed out that /. ran this story two days ago.
Well, considering the years of study of the Northwest Passage are in the 30's, I'm sure someone will get a little hyperbolic with their rhetoric.
Slashdot is to be renamed to Rehashdot, but some would call it "rehashdotadnauseum".
By all means, don't deal with the argument, just mod it down.
The fact is, the previous poster didn't like the metrics, so dismissing them is like saying, we don't like the recount in Florida, or we don't like what the General had to say, or we don't like the vote on "American Idol", or we don't like 9/11 report...Well, face it, you guys don't like a lot of things and think something is up when what is reported doesn't jive with what you THINK should be.
So, if the metric shows Linux gaining ground its valid, but if the metric shows Windows dominating, the numbers are suspect? And we can find all sorts of explanations?
This is like the metrics for the Anthro Global Warming crowd. Any study that suggest geo, solar, and other causes is dismissed. Any bad math is dismissed.
Yes, MS is dominating and not really losing ground. Downloads of Linux are up, but that does not indicate use, it indicates curiousity. Everytime there is a significant release by any of the distro groups, I download it and build a VM out of it, but for use, we stick to W2K3, SharePoint, Office, Visual Studio, and the like. We have a few Unix machines, a few Linux machines, but those are what we call seagull servers. A contractor was contracted to develop a solution and they flew in, shit in our server room and we have to provide the support for this one off system. All because some congressman made a deal to funnel money to them. I love working for the Government. Meanwhile, we provide office and MS SQL (reports, AS, IS) supportable solutions that bypass these seagulls and provide more robust functionality.
I know I'm moving off topic and replying to my own post but I'm reminded of a few years ago, I was back in San Diego at the home office, I was the Far East Technical Training Manager for the company and GL had just re-released "Empire Strikes Back". I was in the theater with a bunch of kids who weren't born when it was first released. The kid next to me was mouthing almost every scene and getting all excited at the key points in the movie. When Darth announces he is Luke's father, this kid almost splooged the entire aisle, and reacted as if it were the first time he had heard the line.
I know he's posting on /. around here somewhere.
Geek sophisticaton, my good man. DnD for Geeks, T&T for casual geeks. Star Wars for Geeked Geeks, Jar Jar Star Wars for geek wannabes.
You're trying to get me to say the name of that other Sandra Bullock computer movie.
Well, it ain't working, sparky.
God bless you, gamers. Without you, we wouldn't have a space program, a Hubble telescope, high impact plastics, modern medicine...oh, wait.
But, after Halo, I think we have enough fodder for the cannons.
Because of gamers, we have a bunch of dorks running around with kanji tatoos without knowing the meanings, but their favorite character has one.
One of our genious coders at work was a die-hard gamer. Used to have his own hours and would work 3 to 4 hours a day, but then he turned out 12 hours worth of code each day. But his entire life was gaming. When he had an online wedding with one of his characters, and nobody from work showed up, he got really ticked and went off the deep end.
We had an intervention.
Now, he's on an 8 hour clock at work, doesn't watch TV and doesn't game. And, we can actually have conversations with him, he doesn't smell, his code is more readable, and we all understand what he's doing, therefor, the entire organization is turning out more and better code.
There's a lesson in there, somewhere.
(Oh, and no, we aren't in South Korea.)
bzzzzt
For even mentioning that movie, your Geek Factor suffers a -10 hit.
You're RPG equivelant is now "Tunnels and Trolls", and your Star Wars equivelant is set to "Jar Jar".
Want to worsen it? Mention that Sandra Bullock movie./p.
Whatever you do, when you meet an alien in space and you are using lasers as propulsion, do not, DO NOT try to back up. This could lead to a serious misunderstanding.
Well, despite the mods not liking this modded as informative or insightful (thanks), it has sparked enough conversation to make all of the points and keep the idea from being hidden.
Within the responses are folks who claim they don't like MS for their culture and what they perceive as their wrongs and based on what they think the market would be like without MS.
Also, within the responses are folks who think an OS and major applications can be designed and implemented from the get-go without error.
Then there are response from raving loons who go on to state that I am wrong, then emphasizing their point by making my point using themselves as the proof.
So...
If MS were gone, lets say they dried up because of the DOS 4.0 fiasco...
OS Top Dog would have been IBM, Apple, or Digital Research - Hmmm, they are/were corporate culture, capaptilistic, closed entities that would be in the same place MS occupies today.
Applications Top Dog (office) would have been IBM, Ashton-Tate, Borland, WordPerfect maybe Adobe...hmmm, looks like they have suffered from the same issues as well.
But, how would I know any of this? Well, how would YOU know that it wouldn't be like that? How would you possibly know what the desktop market would look like if MS didn't exist? I'm just basing my suppositions on the past dominant companies that had a real shot. None of them, as far as I can tell, would have balked at filling the vacuum left by MS and not tried to dominate or use the same tactics as MS. Hell, just take a look at the really closed way Apple worked back then. IBM? Forgetaboutit. DR? Sure thing, they would have slapped DeskView and a GUI on-top of DR-DOS and we would have had Doors instead of Windows, and you'd all be complaining that DR was pushing down unasked-for updates to Doors DP SP1.
No, they did use the plans. Not all of the plans they had access to were for what became the current orbitter.
The plans they walked away with and used were for ONE of the concepts that eventually became the shuttle.
Back in those days, there were shuttle plans for pop out jet engines, and all sorts of neat little features. Some made it to the final orbitter drawings, many didn't./p.
Look at this: Unpatched software abounds on user systems, for those of you that want the government to take care of your health care, your roads, what other people are allowed to eat, making sure nobody smokes, ever, why do you balk at MS making you patch your system?
For those of you that say they should have released it as secure from the get go, show me how Linux was released as secure, without bugs, etc. Show me Moz, show me GIMP, show me any of your OSS applications that were released that way.
Since the browser is the most used on almost any system, show me that all the issues identified have been patched faster than MS patches. Show me that Moz/FF has responded to ALL. Nope, its still has existing issues that have not been patched.
Deal with it, you're pissed at MS for being the top dog. Then you've looked around for the low hanging fruit, that exists for all projects, for your justifications.
/.er:Windows is insecure, Microsoft is evil.
/.er:Where are my patches?
/.er:You're evil because you patched my system.
MS:O.k., we'll make a system the user can run and patch them system that way.
/.er:You're evil because most lusers won't set it up properly and the net will be taken over by these luser's machines.
MS:O.k, we'll patch the system involuntarily.
/.er:You're evil for patching my system that way.
MS: You've made a career at being happy with whatever prevails, right?
Well, considering they are named after their attributes, sometimes ironically:
Then, "Victoria Crater" just sounds scary, and frankly, I think a number of OB/GYN's out there would have to have a second degree in spelunking to treat her.
Now, now, if you start mentioning the myriad of problems OO has, then the score could go the other way and Linux.com might have to announce a Microsoft product the winner.
Remember, suckiness is in the mouth of blower.
Now, if it were say, a "Windows User Magazine" and the results were the opposite, you'd guys would be screaming about bias.
Is it surprising that Linux.com does this?Does MS Office 2007 work on Linux?
I've got one mod point left. And instead of using it, I'm posting here to let you know that I'd use it on you had I not decided to post to this topic.
But, in the end, you weren't compelling enough.
I was looking for more substance, something that I could use around the water-cooler later this morning. I wanted something that would just hit me at my very core and tell me that, "Yes, all of America is summed up in that very statement, and FlyByPC has his finger on the very pulse of the nation."
Instead, I feel like the prom date, who gets up to the front porch at the end of the evening and gets a handshake and a "I had a nice time."
Am I asking too much?
Why?
Providing a legitimate link to source is just as good. Otherwise, they could be in for chewing up valuable bandwidth and transfer charges.
Besides, why junk up things with multiple copies of the same source? (The only time I could see providing the source locally is if your project uses an older version and the source owner doesn't host older versions.)
If a license is going to require you to provide the source, rather than make sure that the source is available, then piss on it.
BTW: I link, and the link goes out with my distribution.
Not only is the Relational DBMS dead, it is buried.
We now have the Non-relational DBMS. Data is stored in a manner not as it relates to other data, but how it does not relate to other data.
Features of the NRDBMS:
The NRDBMS is based on a non-column, non-row, non-cell oriented theoretical system outlined in paragraph 1D.10.T of the Savant manual.
He's in Western State Hospital in Washington. I know, I was on the jury that put Him there.
He also lives in Cave Junction, OR and is running a Sovereignity scam.
You're right, lets not discuss the assinine laws that prevent green vehicles from being sold in all locales. Let's, instead, get picky over a term. That's more important, isn't it?
Do you really want Swedes on the Internet? I mean, aren't they like the Canada of Europe?
The reason is quite clear.
They are pointing, as if to say, "It wasn't us, He did it."
Why does there have to be a reason?
"Inconveniet Truth, Part 32" will state that the Universe is losing its alignment and the number of galaxies pointing in the same direction has dropped by .2% in the last eon. The cause? SUV's.