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Opportunity Takes a Dip Into Victoria Crater
Muad'Dave writes "From the NASA News Release 'Today, NASA's Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity entered Victoria Crater for the first time. It radioed home information via a relay by NASA's Mars Odyssey orbiter, reporting its activities for the day. Opportunity drove far enough in — about four meters (13 feet) — to get all six wheels past the crater rim. Then it backed uphill for about three meters (10 feet). The driving commands for the day included a precaution for the rover to stop driving if its wheels were slipping more than 40 percent. Slippage exceeded that amount on the last step of the drive, so Opportunity stopped with its front pair of wheels still inside the crater.' This marks the beginning of perhaps the greatest 'Opportunity' for new discoveries on Mars."
I'm no baby, but this kind of sporty chance-taking is just scary. A little less gingerly and we'd be relying on the auspiciousness of luck.
Posh.
...jam that sucker into 4WD, drop the clutch and power through that thing. You can make it! That flying saucer's a light-week away!
Operation Guillotine is in effect.
This time, we can take comfort in knowing that someone at NASA is paying attention to the difference between feet and meters.
It seems to me that we should be expecting little Craters about, oh, 9 months from now...
For a second I thought Victoria Crater sounded more like the name of a p0rn star.
That changes the nuance of the headline significantly.
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That is really awesome. However, am I the only person who thinks that title sounds dirty?
10 FILL MUG WITH COFFEE
20 DRINK COFFEE
30 GOTO 10
Prince Albert gets that credit!
This marks the beginning of perhaps the greatest 'Opportunity' for new discoveries on Mars.
Reminds me of the old joke about a mysterious hole being found, experts are looking into it.
That aside, I wonder what they're really expecting to find at the bottom of this crater. Any material from the blast which formed it should be available outside the crater for a large radius. Down in the crater are they expecting to examine strata to search for traces of water, life, indications of Mars earlier life? I suspect most of this, like the debris of the meteorite would be easily found outside the crater without the risk of entering it. I'm afraid once Opportunity enters the crater that's the last of it's exploring days, roaming the surface of Mars and its only Crater News Network from now on.
to the astonishment of NASA a titleist was found at the bottom of the crater
A feeling of having made the same mistake before: Deja Foobar
Opportunity got lucky and landed in an area with clear evidence of water sedimentation- hematite percipitation nodules and layered rock. Otherwise I expect Victoria to be all not that different from Endurance crater in 2003.
On the other Spirit took a couple of years to find evidence of water. The first couple years it crossed a volcanic basalt landscape, may with slight evidence of water healing in rock cracks. In its current area it has crossed bright sulfer salt soils - a clear sign of water. Spirit is very gimpy now. A couple meters a week is good progress.
So Opportunity is finally descending into Duck Bay, the gentlest slope on the edge of the crater. What other bays were being considered? Check out this map. Apparently, the alternatives were named "Bottomless Bay", "Bay of Toil", and "Valley Without Peril". Who comes up with these names, and how can I apply for that job?
Earth cant send probes to Mars each 26 months when the energy requirements are minimal. the last cycle they just sent two orbiters (getting interesting results). But next year they'll land near the polar and dig for water ice. The 2008 laneder has no wheels, but the next one in 2009 is the largest yet. Its the size of minivan and will use retro-rocket landers instead of air-bags, and will be mostly nuclear powered instead of solar.
I presume they'll keep a low-key program with current Rovers after May. Unexpected longevity complicates NASAs budget. Sometimes they turn them off before they are completely dead like Magellan and Galileo. (Actually they crashed them into Venus and Jupiter for terminal science experiment and to prevent contamination of Europa.)
As Opportunity descends into the crater it may come across that one fantastic discovery that reveals without a shadow of a doubt the historic existence of life in the water under Mars' surface. An unbelievable fact that has been hidden for Millenia will be revealed shaking the foundations of human history and culture.
And we will now know that more than just Slashdot geeks look at Victoria's Secret.
If you don't want to repeat the past, stop living in it.
With a vehicle like this, getting out of the crater would have been a cinch.
What I want to know is how the hell they can communicate with Opportunity on Mars, when I get dropped calls from across the street!!
Think of the crater as a nice hole already drilled down 20-50 meters or so. A geologist's (or in this case areologist's) dream: you can examine all the strata over a fairly wide horizontal range without having to pick up a pick or shovel (which Opportunity isn't carrying anyway).
Yes, what was once in the crater is now obviously outside the crater, but the ejecta was spread over a large area by the impact that created the crater, and of course that materials was subject to much more violent shock and heating. I expect it wouldn't tell you nearly as much as the layers inside the crater, even assuming you could distinguish between a thin smudge of ejecta and the surrounding desert floor. Any relationship between the layers (this comes above that, et cetera) is also only preserved inside the crater.
I'm afraid once Opportunity enters the crater that's the last of it's exploring days, roaming the surface of Mars
Probably. That's why they waited this long to try it. But they have to balance what they might learn driving around outside the crater and what they might learn driving into the crater (and not getting out). They've probably concluded they've learned about all there is to learn outside the crater, and if they can't get out, it's worth what they'll find in the crater.
Also bear in mind Opportunity's tools are wearing out, so its ability to do geology (as opposed to just sending back pictures) is coming to an end anyway.
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Hubble is an extreme case. Its lifetime cost is approaching $5 billion, but is arguably the most productive astronomical device ever. Its initial capital cost was $750 million, doubled by the first shuttle accident delays. Add 3 or 4 half billion dollar service missions and operating costs over $200 million a year.
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Well, considering they are named after their attributes, sometimes ironically:
Then, "Victoria Crater" just sounds scary, and frankly, I think a number of OB/GYN's out there would have to have a second degree in spelunking to treat her.
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Opportunist takes a dip into Victoria's crater?
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That's Achille's choice, dating back to, oh, about 3 millennia...
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