you could have fudged your way through a single test to skip an entire "uninteresting" subject, you probably would have
That's not what I meant, I simply meant that they needn't have laboured the point so much - the entire 1st and 2nd year of my high school curriculum to me seemed like they could have been squeezed into a year. We did have basic 'science' classes in those years which were a mix of all the sciences, but I don't recall being taught about natural selection. We definitely didn't have any psychology (though I got interested in that myself from an AI point of viiew, and read the entire section on psychology from a couple of big encyclopaedias that we had at home, which actually covered a lot of stuff that we subsequently were taught about in my two years of Psychology classes at university).
Something like that, you should have seen me a few months ago though;)
Yeah the whole process of education could be classified as brainwashing, and 4th grade is a bit early for learning about natural selection considering people still are learning how to write in joined up letters at that point, but by say 8th or 9th grade (or 1st/2nd year of high school as it would be over here in the UK) I think it would make sense to do it. I at least was capable of following logical reasoning by then and was writing my own computer games etc. I suppose it's more of a fault of my upbringing than my education that I regarded evolution as some evil theory, otherwise I would have taken biology and learned more about it. But IMO often kids are treated as a lot more stupid than they are. I hate the "no child left behind" policies of our education system, I'm pretty sure I could have gone through the first couple of years of high school in only a year if there were any mechanisms in place for it, stuff like arithmetic was a cinch to me because I'd already learned about variables from programming computer games at home.
To a certain extent perhaps, but I just think it would just help people to be more critical of things. Individual thinking does make it difficult to enforce a disciplinary regime I suppose, which isn't very good in a classroom environment, but at least you learn to read, write and even the scientific method.
I am tempted to say that not all brainwashing is a bad thing, but the word itself tends to hold the connotation of someone being converted into a follower of an evil cult. That is an extreme that does happen, but it happens to a lesser extent on many different levels of society, training people as to what is expected of them (sexual 'norms' being a good example, because they can vary a lot from culture to culture but then people usually think that their own cultures norms are the real 'natural' ones, and everyone else is a bunch of perverts).
I at least find it useful to try to look at things from a more objective point of view where possible, and be aware of situations in which brainwashing tactics are being employed. Generally the most basic element is fear as it overrides your higher mental functions - you can see it being employed a lot by politicians and media outlets with their FUD campaigns.. once you have people blindly accepting your basic bullshit premise, you can then start to build on top of it with ideas that people would otherwise have rejected. A decent example would probably be all the increased security measures that went mostly unchallenged after 9/11 and the subsequent culture of fear that was fostered. I'm of course not suggesting that the US and UK governments planned 9/11 and the occasional mini terrorist attempts since then, but they certainly took advantage of them to grab a nice chunk of extra power.
Yes I agree. I was on pills for depression a couple of times. After the first time, when I came off the pills it actually made a lot of things worse in the next few months (but at first I didn't realise that was anything to do with the pills, I just thought it was me being weird until I found out what OCD was, and read that citalopram can actually make some patients' symptoms of depression worse rather than help, so I assume it was that that exaggerated the slight OCDish tendencies I had already of worrying, overthinking and obsessing about patterns, numbers, etc). I told myself I'd never go back on pills again, but I eventually did when I ended up incredibly argumentative and frustrated and sabotaging relationships with my friends and family - I realised that I shouldn't have come off the pills in the first place because I was only fooling myself that I was somehow 'better'. I hadn't dealt with the root of my problems.
The second time I made sure to lower the dosage slowly when I came off the pills, and things have been pretty good since despite a couple of situations that would have seriously messed me up beforehand. I definitely have developed new ways of looking at life and coping in general that hopefully mean I won't need to go back on meds no matter what happens.
It's amazing how you can make life so different just by taking a little pill every day. It's scary, in fact, when you think about it. If you ever go on anti-depressants or stop to consider the effects of alcohol, caffeine or other drugs then you will realise how easily that your entire outlook on life can be affected massively by tiny chemical changes. Any tiny problems with either production or reception of certain chemicals inside the brain itself can make it difficult for some people to have what would be regarded as a "strong psyche".. while some are just lucky and seem to be hyperactively happy and positive all the time, blissfully unaware of the world's problems (yeah I'm exaggerating a little, and oftentimes in fact that kind of super-PMA is just a front).
Oh ffs I wish I had read this before ranting before, because you are just trolling. Seriously, go read up on OCD. The symptoms to it are so varied and seemingly random that I was amazed when one day someone pointed me to a list of OCD symptoms after hearing one weird thing I do, and basically all of the weird shit that I have done during my life that I had thought was just me being a freak, was actually all part of a well recognised problem.
Yes, it does make you feel better to know that you aren't the only person in the world that strange, but it is obvious that there are a lot of possible ways for your brain to screw up in its development whether chemically or psychologically, and without help a lot of people just self-destruct. It is good to get help for these things. You yourself seem like you need some help for all your attention seeking and attempts to somehow prove that everyone in the world should be able to be as awesome as you think you are.
Wow, so people suffering from post traumatic stress disorder after having to watch people ripped apart by bullets, or those who have phobias from traumatic experiences as kids, or weird chemical issues causing manic/bipolar or just 'regular' depression, OCD, epilepsy etc etc are simply just morons because they need pills to try to live 'normal' lives like you? A lot of people do live in their normal little worlds where they are neither overly happy nor sad all the time and their brains have no significant defects - but as with all things in life, some people lie at the extremes. Some of this will be due to life experience, other parts will be due to genetic factors or perhaps damage in the womb from an accident or a mother who liked to drink, yada yada yada, you get the picture. Yes sometimes people just need to grow the fuck up, and they eventually they usually do, but some people have serious problems. Sometimes it's a mixture of both. I would suggest that you are much more of a moron to pass judgement on things that you apparently have no knowledge of. Yeah, I know we're on slashdot, but even so..
I had written a huuuuuge rant here about how my life was oh so sad and worthy of pity, but you probably don't care. Just be aware that even people who have nothing to really be upset about can still get depressed simply because western life is so incredibly easy and boring. People aren't built for sitting in an office all day doing nothing. I got depressed for other reasons, but I won't list them unless you would like to hear them so that you can laugh at me for being so pathetic as to let it get to me.
Anyway, sorry if you weren't referring to stuff like depression*, and congrats if you were trolling.
* I do agree that doctors hand out pills too easily sometimes, but you do know that it doesn't make them money at all right? It makes the pharmaceutical companies money, but doctors would still be getting paid plenty without hypocondriacs wasting their time. Pawning their patients off onto proper counsellors and/or medication is not making the doctor any more money. Believe it or not a lot of doctors just want to help people (I know some doctors and nurses who regularly go out and do missionary work for free or at least very little pay compared to what they normally get). Of course some people will just be in it for the money, but it is overly cynical to think of all of them that way. You even get some decent lawyers for crying out loud (admittedly NewYorkCountryLawyer is probably the only one, but he still shows that it's possible):p
By impossible I assume you mean impossible to do it very quickly, but even mobile phones can locate faces on their cameras these days so it can't be too bad..
I had thought the guy just mounted a wii-mote on his head.
Still, face tracking with a camera would be less restrictive and involve less money on hardware in the long run than having to wear headgear which could get damaged or lost etc.
The face tracking of course would be more CPU intensive and difficult to code, meaning poor responsiveness and accuracy for the first generation at least. At first I was thinking you would even have to determine which direction the user is looking in, but really you could realistically assume that they are always looking at the dead centre of the screen, and so you only need to determine distance from the screen and distance of the face from centre (both left/right and up/down). Determine roll as the wii-mote does would be pretty awesome too - especially for stuff like peering out from behind corners.
e a camera looking at the user, a required setup for achieving positional head-tracking
Sure it's one setup, but it's hardly "required" otherwise it wouldn't have been possible to do the same trick with the wii-mote.
Besides, what happens if your identical twin brother walks over next to you? Did they think of that? No, they clearly did not. Am I truly concerned? No, I don't have a twin. Do I like speaking in questions today? Yes, I do.
So in essence, AD administrator account passwords are still the most important to keep note of, because otherwise you have to faff around with all of this crap to reset them. Local admin passwords hardly seem important if you can reset them so easily..
In theory, even cults are heavily protected by the first amendment, in practice they don't fare as well as those belief systems that are considered full blown religions.
Yeah, it's easy to laugh at a small group of crazy people. But when they become a large group, they for some reason are meant to be respected.
As someone who recently realised what a crock religion is, I find it sad that people are not taught about brainwashing in school, not to mention natural selection and evolution. If I'd studied biology then I'd have been taught more on evolution (though being religious actually made me want to avoid the subject because it was seen as heretical by most people I knew), but it should be taught to *everyone*, fairly early on - if you see that humans are in essence the same as animals, then you can at least discard the religions that think humans were created as special beings. It is perhaps possible (but to me it doesn't seem very likely) that some magical consciousness pervades all things, but IMO anyone who believes that only humans have souls while all other forms of life do not, is not looking at things logically. Especially if they believe we were made in the "image of God", unless their God did in fact evolve from a giant space-monkey.
That is true of workstations, but on a domain controller the local system is not an option in the domain drop-down box, so you only active directory authentication (but other people have posted ways around this to gain local access).
I did, but I didn't go past the first few results, which weren't very promising. I got that it wasn't enabled by default at least and that was enough for me, I thought I had perhaps just missed something obvious before. We have a Windows server, but I've never done an MCSE or any formal Windows Server training, I just pick stuff up as and when I need to. I had forgotten about directory services restore mode, I've thankfully never had to use it in anger before.
People eat muffins for breakfast? No wonder everyone is getting so fat.. I just think of them the same as cakes, brownies, cookies, whatever.. they're more of a dessert or heavily indulgent snack item to me. Give me a cup of coffee and I'll probably instinctively snarf one down without thinking though:P
I think it was meant to be some sort of analogy, but I can't quite see what it is meant to be matching up to. It doesn't really fit in with online file sharing though because I suspect most BitTorrent users often don't try legitimate sources in the first place.
His analogy almost works in my case though - I do try online stores first, and then if I still can't get whatever music I want without paying crazy import prices (or buy the CD and then find out the CD has copy protection - which I can get around of course, but don't want to waste time on), I'll just download it. Still, if the shop's customers are wanting to keep buying stuff at all hours of the day, why not keep it open 24 hours and make more profit? As a CEO you'd expect him to have a bit more business acumen.. of course he probably knows what he is saying is a load of bull, but still wants to try it on in the hopes that people won't notice (as everyone seems to do when they implement DRM measures).
No, we're talking Windows 200x Server because I mentioned domains. If you are primarily a linux shop, I don't see why you'd want to run Samba over an open alternative anyway?
I was thinking more for admin access across the network rather than individual machines, which aren't usually a concern in a network environment, especially if your home directories are networked for example. Here we run mainly Windows anyway, the only password that is really important to keep safe is the domain administrator password.
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We're going to need a cloning booth and a LOT of biomass.
If you read the other comments you'll see that this is just a hoax site.. bit of an over the top knee-jerk reaction cancelling your order..
It's "Carpal Tunnel" Syndrome.
And also, *whoosh*
you could have fudged your way through a single test to skip an entire "uninteresting" subject, you probably would have
That's not what I meant, I simply meant that they needn't have laboured the point so much - the entire 1st and 2nd year of my high school curriculum to me seemed like they could have been squeezed into a year. We did have basic 'science' classes in those years which were a mix of all the sciences, but I don't recall being taught about natural selection. We definitely didn't have any psychology (though I got interested in that myself from an AI point of viiew, and read the entire section on psychology from a couple of big encyclopaedias that we had at home, which actually covered a lot of stuff that we subsequently were taught about in my two years of Psychology classes at university).
Dear God and/or Taco: please, make it stop.
The question is, does Alzheimer's let me bang her in the ear?
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No Zealot Like a Convert, eh?
Something like that, you should have seen me a few months ago though ;)
Yeah the whole process of education could be classified as brainwashing, and 4th grade is a bit early for learning about natural selection considering people still are learning how to write in joined up letters at that point, but by say 8th or 9th grade (or 1st/2nd year of high school as it would be over here in the UK) I think it would make sense to do it. I at least was capable of following logical reasoning by then and was writing my own computer games etc. I suppose it's more of a fault of my upbringing than my education that I regarded evolution as some evil theory, otherwise I would have taken biology and learned more about it. But IMO often kids are treated as a lot more stupid than they are. I hate the "no child left behind" policies of our education system, I'm pretty sure I could have gone through the first couple of years of high school in only a year if there were any mechanisms in place for it, stuff like arithmetic was a cinch to me because I'd already learned about variables from programming computer games at home.
To a certain extent perhaps, but I just think it would just help people to be more critical of things. Individual thinking does make it difficult to enforce a disciplinary regime I suppose, which isn't very good in a classroom environment, but at least you learn to read, write and even the scientific method.
I am tempted to say that not all brainwashing is a bad thing, but the word itself tends to hold the connotation of someone being converted into a follower of an evil cult. That is an extreme that does happen, but it happens to a lesser extent on many different levels of society, training people as to what is expected of them (sexual 'norms' being a good example, because they can vary a lot from culture to culture but then people usually think that their own cultures norms are the real 'natural' ones, and everyone else is a bunch of perverts).
I at least find it useful to try to look at things from a more objective point of view where possible, and be aware of situations in which brainwashing tactics are being employed. Generally the most basic element is fear as it overrides your higher mental functions - you can see it being employed a lot by politicians and media outlets with their FUD campaigns.. once you have people blindly accepting your basic bullshit premise, you can then start to build on top of it with ideas that people would otherwise have rejected. A decent example would probably be all the increased security measures that went mostly unchallenged after 9/11 and the subsequent culture of fear that was fostered. I'm of course not suggesting that the US and UK governments planned 9/11 and the occasional mini terrorist attempts since then, but they certainly took advantage of them to grab a nice chunk of extra power.
Yes I agree. I was on pills for depression a couple of times. After the first time, when I came off the pills it actually made a lot of things worse in the next few months (but at first I didn't realise that was anything to do with the pills, I just thought it was me being weird until I found out what OCD was, and read that citalopram can actually make some patients' symptoms of depression worse rather than help, so I assume it was that that exaggerated the slight OCDish tendencies I had already of worrying, overthinking and obsessing about patterns, numbers, etc). I told myself I'd never go back on pills again, but I eventually did when I ended up incredibly argumentative and frustrated and sabotaging relationships with my friends and family - I realised that I shouldn't have come off the pills in the first place because I was only fooling myself that I was somehow 'better'. I hadn't dealt with the root of my problems.
The second time I made sure to lower the dosage slowly when I came off the pills, and things have been pretty good since despite a couple of situations that would have seriously messed me up beforehand. I definitely have developed new ways of looking at life and coping in general that hopefully mean I won't need to go back on meds no matter what happens.
It's amazing how you can make life so different just by taking a little pill every day. It's scary, in fact, when you think about it. If you ever go on anti-depressants or stop to consider the effects of alcohol, caffeine or other drugs then you will realise how easily that your entire outlook on life can be affected massively by tiny chemical changes. Any tiny problems with either production or reception of certain chemicals inside the brain itself can make it difficult for some people to have what would be regarded as a "strong psyche".. while some are just lucky and seem to be hyperactively happy and positive all the time, blissfully unaware of the world's problems (yeah I'm exaggerating a little, and oftentimes in fact that kind of super-PMA is just a front).
Oh ffs I wish I had read this before ranting before, because you are just trolling. Seriously, go read up on OCD. The symptoms to it are so varied and seemingly random that I was amazed when one day someone pointed me to a list of OCD symptoms after hearing one weird thing I do, and basically all of the weird shit that I have done during my life that I had thought was just me being a freak, was actually all part of a well recognised problem.
Yes, it does make you feel better to know that you aren't the only person in the world that strange, but it is obvious that there are a lot of possible ways for your brain to screw up in its development whether chemically or psychologically, and without help a lot of people just self-destruct. It is good to get help for these things. You yourself seem like you need some help for all your attention seeking and attempts to somehow prove that everyone in the world should be able to be as awesome as you think you are.
Wow, so people suffering from post traumatic stress disorder after having to watch people ripped apart by bullets, or those who have phobias from traumatic experiences as kids, or weird chemical issues causing manic/bipolar or just 'regular' depression, OCD, epilepsy etc etc are simply just morons because they need pills to try to live 'normal' lives like you? A lot of people do live in their normal little worlds where they are neither overly happy nor sad all the time and their brains have no significant defects - but as with all things in life, some people lie at the extremes. Some of this will be due to life experience, other parts will be due to genetic factors or perhaps damage in the womb from an accident or a mother who liked to drink, yada yada yada, you get the picture. Yes sometimes people just need to grow the fuck up, and they eventually they usually do, but some people have serious problems. Sometimes it's a mixture of both. I would suggest that you are much more of a moron to pass judgement on things that you apparently have no knowledge of. Yeah, I know we're on slashdot, but even so..
I had written a huuuuuge rant here about how my life was oh so sad and worthy of pity, but you probably don't care. Just be aware that even people who have nothing to really be upset about can still get depressed simply because western life is so incredibly easy and boring. People aren't built for sitting in an office all day doing nothing. I got depressed for other reasons, but I won't list them unless you would like to hear them so that you can laugh at me for being so pathetic as to let it get to me.
Anyway, sorry if you weren't referring to stuff like depression*, and congrats if you were trolling.
* I do agree that doctors hand out pills too easily sometimes, but you do know that it doesn't make them money at all right? It makes the pharmaceutical companies money, but doctors would still be getting paid plenty without hypocondriacs wasting their time. Pawning their patients off onto proper counsellors and/or medication is not making the doctor any more money. Believe it or not a lot of doctors just want to help people (I know some doctors and nurses who regularly go out and do missionary work for free or at least very little pay compared to what they normally get). Of course some people will just be in it for the money, but it is overly cynical to think of all of them that way. You even get some decent lawyers for crying out loud (admittedly NewYorkCountryLawyer is probably the only one, but he still shows that it's possible) :p
they saw that people were more willing to go without than to pay too much
I doubt so much that people are going without as just using a different source, though perhaps that is what you are implying anyway?
By impossible I assume you mean impossible to do it very quickly, but even mobile phones can locate faces on their cameras these days so it can't be too bad..
I had thought the guy just mounted a wii-mote on his head.
Still, face tracking with a camera would be less restrictive and involve less money on hardware in the long run than having to wear headgear which could get damaged or lost etc.
The face tracking of course would be more CPU intensive and difficult to code, meaning poor responsiveness and accuracy for the first generation at least. At first I was thinking you would even have to determine which direction the user is looking in, but really you could realistically assume that they are always looking at the dead centre of the screen, and so you only need to determine distance from the screen and distance of the face from centre (both left/right and up/down). Determine roll as the wii-mote does would be pretty awesome too - especially for stuff like peering out from behind corners.
e a camera looking at the user, a required setup for achieving positional head-tracking
Sure it's one setup, but it's hardly "required" otherwise it wouldn't have been possible to do the same trick with the wii-mote.
Besides, what happens if your identical twin brother walks over next to you? Did they think of that? No, they clearly did not. Am I truly concerned? No, I don't have a twin. Do I like speaking in questions today? Yes, I do.
So in essence, AD administrator account passwords are still the most important to keep note of, because otherwise you have to faff around with all of this crap to reset them. Local admin passwords hardly seem important if you can reset them so easily..
In theory, even cults are heavily protected by the first amendment, in practice they don't fare as well as those belief systems that are considered full blown religions.
Yeah, it's easy to laugh at a small group of crazy people. But when they become a large group, they for some reason are meant to be respected.
As someone who recently realised what a crock religion is, I find it sad that people are not taught about brainwashing in school, not to mention natural selection and evolution. If I'd studied biology then I'd have been taught more on evolution (though being religious actually made me want to avoid the subject because it was seen as heretical by most people I knew), but it should be taught to *everyone*, fairly early on - if you see that humans are in essence the same as animals, then you can at least discard the religions that think humans were created as special beings. It is perhaps possible (but to me it doesn't seem very likely) that some magical consciousness pervades all things, but IMO anyone who believes that only humans have souls while all other forms of life do not, is not looking at things logically. Especially if they believe we were made in the "image of God", unless their God did in fact evolve from a giant space-monkey.
( Cue mostly crazy responses. *sigh* )
With Scientology, you'll be fucked 100% of the time.
To all the horny virgin geeks round here, that sounds like a plus point!
That is true of workstations, but on a domain controller the local system is not an option in the domain drop-down box, so you only active directory authentication (but other people have posted ways around this to gain local access).
I did, but I didn't go past the first few results, which weren't very promising. I got that it wasn't enabled by default at least and that was enough for me, I thought I had perhaps just missed something obvious before. We have a Windows server, but I've never done an MCSE or any formal Windows Server training, I just pick stuff up as and when I need to. I had forgotten about directory services restore mode, I've thankfully never had to use it in anger before.
People eat muffins for breakfast? No wonder everyone is getting so fat.. I just think of them the same as cakes, brownies, cookies, whatever.. they're more of a dessert or heavily indulgent snack item to me. Give me a cup of coffee and I'll probably instinctively snarf one down without thinking though :P
I think it was meant to be some sort of analogy, but I can't quite see what it is meant to be matching up to. It doesn't really fit in with online file sharing though because I suspect most BitTorrent users often don't try legitimate sources in the first place.
His analogy almost works in my case though - I do try online stores first, and then if I still can't get whatever music I want without paying crazy import prices (or buy the CD and then find out the CD has copy protection - which I can get around of course, but don't want to waste time on), I'll just download it. Still, if the shop's customers are wanting to keep buying stuff at all hours of the day, why not keep it open 24 hours and make more profit? As a CEO you'd expect him to have a bit more business acumen.. of course he probably knows what he is saying is a load of bull, but still wants to try it on in the hopes that people won't notice (as everyone seems to do when they implement DRM measures).
No, we're talking Windows 200x Server because I mentioned domains. If you are primarily a linux shop, I don't see why you'd want to run Samba over an open alternative anyway?
How exactly do you get a local admin account on a domain controller? I didn't think there was any such thing.
I was thinking more for admin access across the network rather than individual machines, which aren't usually a concern in a network environment, especially if your home directories are networked for example. Here we run mainly Windows anyway, the only password that is really important to keep safe is the domain administrator password.