Netscape 4 was the last Netscape that stood from the orignial lineage.
Netscape 5 was begun and the source released. The Mozilla open-source project was formed. They took a look at the Netscape 5 source, and gave up on it, deciding to start over. Although the Mozilla "suite" was made to work/look like Netscape, it was new code.
Mozilla was developed for a while. The first public release was "M3" (I used it). Later on they changed from "M"(ilestone) releases to version numbers. I think it was version 0.6 that Netscape then used as the basis for Netscape 6.0 (which flopped). We saw a Netscape 6.1 later, based upon a later release of Mozilla (0.9.2)... it was a lot better than 6.0.
Netscape 7 was based upon Mozilla 1.0.1, a much better (recent) version of Mozilla. The current version of Netscape, 7.2, is based upon Mozilla 1.7.2.
Firefox is based upon Mozilla, not Netscape.
There have so far been no Netscape browsers based upon Firefox. Netscape 8 will be the first.
This article from a few days ago dubs spyware "IT's public enemy #1" and I have to agree. I admin a small network of about 100 Windows PCs and it's such a headache. Sure, I know how to clean a machine completely... but it involves an arsenal of different programs plus a lot of by-hand work and reboots and safe-mode and such.
The problem is, there is no one effective tool. The antivirus industry has matured. Granted, Symantec might not catch EVERYTHING but what it DOES catch covers everything I've ever come across, and 99.999% of what most other people will too.
SpyBot... AdAware... SpySweeper... Giant/MS Antispyware... each catches stuff the others don't. Doesn't matter what order you run them. And I can run ALL of them, and sometimes go into HijackThis and find more spyware still lingering. Sometimes it's remnants of some spyware the tool identified but wasn't effective in completely removing. Sometimes it's an entirely NEW piece of spyware.
So what's a corporation to do? Sure, some of them offer corporate versions... but since none of the catch a reasonable amount, there's no single one worth investing that amount of money in. So what do you do... manually spend an hour ever week on each machine? x100? x1000? x10000? It's crazy.
Right. Because obviously it was SO funny the other 10 million times we saw it last month, your using it has got to be even funnier. As well as the 1000 or so encores of the same we'll see on this thread.
*yawn*
Considering that the lame "joke" has no basis in reality, I wonder just why the people who continue to toss it around do so. Desperation? Jealousy? Do they feel threatened? Who knows.
Either way, it's a badge of lameness. Too bad the people using it can't figure that out.
What this guy hasn't told the potential advertisers is that he has long hair which completely covers his forehead.;)
Notice there's no picture of his head anywhere. Remember, even worse than fine print is the information they don't provide and the obvious questions you don't think to ask.
Of course, in this case it's the common-man screwing the Big Company, so I suppose there's poetic justice in it... hehe
Odd format of 5.25 floppies (although it could read/write/format standard IBM ones too with special command-line params or separate tools). Odd video controller. No default clock or mouse... we added a clock/calendar and mouse board (oh yeah, funky proprietary add-on boards). Didn't even do graphics out of the box... we added that too. My dad didn't go for the hard drive... IIRC there was a version of Windows 1.0 available for it. Anything graphical had to be specifically for the Tandy 2000. We DID have MS Flight Simulator... that was fun. DR-Graph, DR-Draw... and a bunch of Infocom text adventures. I also spent a lot of time in BASIC.
Firefox lets you selectively block certain sites from setting cookies. I don't let Doubleclick set ANY cookies EVER on my computers. In fact, the only sites that DO get to are the ones where I shop at, or I use logins. Every time a site tries to set one I get a popup allowing me to deny it. On a new install there'll be a lot of these but as the block list gets populated with the major advertisers it calms down and now I don't see them very often. And I'd rather see the occasional notification than let these guys spy on me.
I actually already tried xset -r. It doesn't help. When in a remote Vino session, it will still randomly repeat... although when I'm back at my desk, it's clear that the xset -r took effect because I can no longer hold down a key and get repeats when I desire them.
I like how Vino lets me view my main desktop (screen:0 ) but I get a keystroke-repeat issue that I don't get with other servers, all else being equal. Seems to come up during moments of lag (this is over broadband though). No matter how slowly or carefully I'll type, occasionally keystrokes will be repeated (sometimes to insane lengths). IIIIIIttttt's haaaarrd to haavvve toooo correccccccctt stuffff like this all the timmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmme.:(
Ahhh... Tradewars! I truly loved that game. I was quite addicted to it... even used to write my own software utilities to assist me with playing the game. Along with some shareware tools I invested in. I was a force to be reckoned with. When I couldn't find a decent local board to play it on, I started my own BBS.:)
I played many other "doors" off and on, but none came close to capturing my heart and attentions as Tradewars. EVER.
My #1 most important extension is AdBlock. Is there something like that out there for Epiphany yet? Last I looked (recently) there wasn't. I really like Firefox so it'd take more than JUST that to pull me away, but the lack of any sort of ad-blocking in Epiphany is a show-stopper that prevents me from pursuing it further.
You are most likely correct, as that is a book I've read. It was long ago... so that would explain why I was so confused as to where I heard/read it from. heh.
For some bizarre reason, this reminded me of a story I once heard somewhere (no longer rememeber where).
Some guy was living with a bunch of others and always had a problem with them drinking up his milk. So one day he simply wrote "Milk Experiment" in big letters on the carton and never had another issue.
0.10 is larger than 0.9 because it's not decimal. The period is simply a separator.
You should know that Mozilla doesn't consider them to be decimal when you have Mozilla 1.7.3 out also. If you saw 1.7.3 and 1.10.2 which would you think was newer?
Agreed. I can remember back in Jr. High writing a program in GW-BASIC (!!!) that would factor any polynomial equation I threw at it. No use for cheating as the teachers wanted to see your work, but was great for checking my answers.
Maybe if I could understand Dutch I'd get why this is a big deal.
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No. None of these are based off Netscape.
... it was a lot better than 6.0.
Netscape 4 was the last Netscape that stood from the orignial lineage.
Netscape 5 was begun and the source released. The Mozilla open-source project was formed. They took a look at the Netscape 5 source, and gave up on it, deciding to start over. Although the Mozilla "suite" was made to work/look like Netscape, it was new code.
Mozilla was developed for a while. The first public release was "M3" (I used it). Later on they changed from "M"(ilestone) releases to version numbers. I think it was version 0.6 that Netscape then used as the basis for Netscape 6.0 (which flopped). We saw a Netscape 6.1 later, based upon a later release of Mozilla (0.9.2)
Netscape 7 was based upon Mozilla 1.0.1, a much better (recent) version of Mozilla. The current version of Netscape, 7.2, is based upon Mozilla 1.7.2.
Firefox is based upon Mozilla, not Netscape.
There have so far been no Netscape browsers based upon Firefox. Netscape 8 will be the first.
Sounds like you'd like FFDeploy
You're soooo opening up yourself for Spaceball jokes...
This article from a few days ago dubs spyware "IT's public enemy #1" and I have to agree. I admin a small network of about 100 Windows PCs and it's such a headache. Sure, I know how to clean a machine completely... but it involves an arsenal of different programs plus a lot of by-hand work and reboots and safe-mode and such.
The problem is, there is no one effective tool. The antivirus industry has matured. Granted, Symantec might not catch EVERYTHING but what it DOES catch covers everything I've ever come across, and 99.999% of what most other people will too.
SpyBot... AdAware... SpySweeper... Giant/MS Antispyware... each catches stuff the others don't. Doesn't matter what order you run them. And I can run ALL of them, and sometimes go into HijackThis and find more spyware still lingering. Sometimes it's remnants of some spyware the tool identified but wasn't effective in completely removing. Sometimes it's an entirely NEW piece of spyware.
So what's a corporation to do? Sure, some of them offer corporate versions... but since none of the catch a reasonable amount, there's no single one worth investing that amount of money in. So what do you do... manually spend an hour ever week on each machine? x100? x1000? x10000? It's crazy.
Getting your money back for bugs in the software? Well, did you "accept" that End User License Agreement presented to you on install? Heh.
If so, you're probably SOL. I've never managed to get my money back from Microsoft due to the bugs in their software either.
It probably said something about this EULA superceeding all previous EULAs and contracts too.
(Note to the humor-challenged: this is a joke. Sorta.)
Not only that, but the irony of the "Netcraft" jokes is Netcraft actually runs FreeBSD themselves.
Then it's all good... no hard feelings :)
Cheers...
Right. Because obviously it was SO funny the other 10 million times we saw it last month, your using it has got to be even funnier. As well as the 1000 or so encores of the same we'll see on this thread.
*yawn*
Considering that the lame "joke" has no basis in reality, I wonder just why the people who continue to toss it around do so. Desperation? Jealousy? Do they feel threatened? Who knows.
Either way, it's a badge of lameness. Too bad the people using it can't figure that out.
Perhaps my favorite was "drunkchicks" :)
There was another along the lines of "wanttosharethis5551212" or something.
What this guy hasn't told the potential advertisers is that he has long hair which completely covers his forehead. ;)
Notice there's no picture of his head anywhere. Remember, even worse than fine print is the information they don't provide and the obvious questions you don't think to ask.
Of course, in this case it's the common-man screwing the Big Company, so I suppose there's poetic justice in it... hehe
Yes, silly atoms... they are so Big-Bang-era-ish. Heh. C'mon... this is 2005!
;)
If we could just build chips and traces out of something smaller, we'd be set.
In addition to the MSI mentioned, there's also this:
http://firefox.dbltree.com/
The Tandy TRS-80 Model 2000 was an 80186. It was our first computer when I was growing up.
Odd format of 5.25 floppies (although it could read/write/format standard IBM ones too with special command-line params or separate tools). Odd video controller. No default clock or mouse... we added a clock/calendar and mouse board (oh yeah, funky proprietary add-on boards). Didn't even do graphics out of the box... we added that too. My dad didn't go for the hard drive... IIRC there was a version of Windows 1.0 available for it. Anything graphical had to be specifically for the Tandy 2000. We DID have MS Flight Simulator... that was fun. DR-Graph, DR-Draw... and a bunch of Infocom text adventures. I also spent a lot of time in BASIC.
Ahh, the memories...
Finally found the price. That's a $50K watch, dude.
Ouch.
Firefox lets you selectively block certain sites from setting cookies. I don't let Doubleclick set ANY cookies EVER on my computers. In fact, the only sites that DO get to are the ones where I shop at, or I use logins. Every time a site tries to set one I get a popup allowing me to deny it. On a new install there'll be a lot of these but as the block list gets populated with the major advertisers it calms down and now I don't see them very often. And I'd rather see the occasional notification than let these guys spy on me.
I know a 16yo girl who installed FreeBSD on her own. She loves using Firefox, Gaim, and AbiWord.
She even tells me about how she uses Yahoo chat rooms to get FreeBSD support (when I'm not around).
I actually already tried xset -r. It doesn't help. When in a remote Vino session, it will still randomly repeat... although when I'm back at my desk, it's clear that the xset -r took effect because I can no longer hold down a key and get repeats when I desire them.
I like how Vino lets me view my main desktop (screen :0 ) but I get a keystroke-repeat issue that I don't get with other servers, all else being equal. Seems to come up during moments of lag (this is over broadband though). No matter how slowly or carefully I'll type, occasionally keystrokes will be repeated (sometimes to insane lengths). IIIIIIttttt's haaaarrd to haavvve toooo correccccccctt stuffff like this all the timmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmme. :(
Ahhh... Tradewars! I truly loved that game. I was quite addicted to it... even used to write my own software utilities to assist me with playing the game. Along with some shareware tools I invested in. I was a force to be reckoned with. When I couldn't find a decent local board to play it on, I started my own BBS. :)
I played many other "doors" off and on, but none came close to capturing my heart and attentions as Tradewars. EVER.
Those were the days, to be sure...
Hmm... I do it right now on Gnome 2.6 w/ Vino. Works fine. I've got a VNC session tunnelled over SSH viewing screen 0 as we speak.
My #1 most important extension is AdBlock. Is there something like that out there for Epiphany yet? Last I looked (recently) there wasn't. I really like Firefox so it'd take more than JUST that to pull me away, but the lack of any sort of ad-blocking in Epiphany is a show-stopper that prevents me from pursuing it further.
You are most likely correct, as that is a book I've read. It was long ago... so that would explain why I was so confused as to where I heard/read it from. heh.
For some bizarre reason, this reminded me of a story I once heard somewhere (no longer rememeber where).
Some guy was living with a bunch of others and always had a problem with them drinking up his milk. So one day he simply wrote "Milk Experiment" in big letters on the carton and never had another issue.
0.10 is larger than 0.9 because it's not decimal. The period is simply a separator.
You should know that Mozilla doesn't consider them to be decimal when you have Mozilla 1.7.3 out also. If you saw 1.7.3 and 1.10.2 which would you think was newer?
This is common practice for MANY projects.
Agreed. I can remember back in Jr. High writing a program in GW-BASIC (!!!) that would factor any polynomial equation I threw at it. No use for cheating as the teachers wanted to see your work, but was great for checking my answers.
Maybe if I could understand Dutch I'd get why this is a big deal.