Sure, mastering C and ADA skills might help me become a good college professor who has no clue ow to be productive in the real world; but I'll take my 10 years of Java skills, home ownership and a high 6 figure salary over the drudgery of college professorship any day. Idiots with PHD's.
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Can WordPerfect 5.1 can read WordPerfect 6.0 files?
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So wait, you buy version 2 of a piece of software, save the file as version 2, and bitch when you send it to a user with version 1 who cannot read it? I call that "user error".
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What, is save-as-office-2003 to difficult for you?
I always found that WordPefect felt "klunky" compared to Word. I think it because Microsoft used API's hidden to other developers? Regardless of feature set - for the average user, Word is just easier and smoother to use.
Sorry, I was moving way to fast. What I am saying is, Apple products are not popular in most corporations. For a large training organization - where presentation software is very critical to our success - it's a great deal cheaper (both in terms of maintaining hardware, understanding of the software, etc) to standardize on Windows/PowerPoint. There. Was that easier for you to understand?
I do professional presentation work - nothing is even close to PowerPoint in terms of robustness and look and feel. Word is a bloated mess, but nothing is even close to being as responsive (for lack of a better word). The finance world uses Excel. The entire finance world. duh. It's hard to quantify - but Word, PowerPoint and Excel are unmatched in excellence. OpenOffice.org is nice - but buggy and a little "off" in terms of the user experience. Google's apps are neat for personal use - but not for a pro. I use Firefox and Thunderbird for email - Outlook is awful.
But parent, you missed the point. MS is doing this primary for security concearns. These old formats never even considered security in their design. Remember the WMF flaws? Do you really expect MS to go back and security-proof these old formats? I hate MS monopoly as much as the rest of SD, but you can call me a fool or a sock puppet - but I'm not moving from office until something better comes out. And I'm glad MS turned off these potential attack vectors case I do not need a 10+year old word interpreter to do ANY of my business.
"Linux is a superbly polished copy of an antique" WHAT? Have you actually looked at any of the linux source code? It's a complete mess with different styles, coding conventions and comments. It's a mess, at best. You want polished? Look no further than BSD. They pier-review the code (polish) on a regular basis. Now thats a real OS.
What a scumbag spammer. Can't we block this "Anonymous" guy? He posts lie 50 times on each thread and often he is spammy or rude. And does this guy ever sleep? Is he on slashdot every day all day? The same guy causes all kinds of trouble on other sites, too. I'm so sick of this "Anonymous" guy....
Welcome Java. Our client side code has had integrated easy to program multi-threading capability since 1997 or earlier. I agree, we have problems with slowness on old-school processors and start up times, but when 8-16 core PC's are the norm, and the gui of the JDK changes radically around Java 7/8, Java might start to be a real possibility for enterprise wide client-side programming - with the exception of gaming and high end graphic needs.
Ok, so Google is not stealing. Leeching maybe, but by no means stealing by the legal meaning of the world. And yes, Google gives quite a bit of code back to the community. I'm fond of their JavaScript XPATH library, it's one of the only ones I've seen that work in a robust cross browser way (even though I've moved to JSON). I guess my question is, can you point me to a public distribution of Linux that will hold up to Six Sigma reliability running a mission critical database server that does not require extensive customization?
Can you explain why not? What do you know about mission-critical databases that Google and Amazon don't?
I do not have the $ to to branch Linux and hire 100's of phd's to build me a *custom* version of Linux specific to my organization. They are essentially stealing Linux and never give back any of the most interesting code to the comuuuuuuuunity. That is not open source, it's called leeching. And that is exactly what Amazon and Google has done with their own *NIX variants. You fanboi's should be up in arms about this, not praising the big boys for stealing and branching Linux for their own proprietary uses.
You logic flawed. This is not just about protecting American lives, it's about protecting airline transportation which is vital to commerce. We are in a new age where privacy is all but gone. That goes for the folks at the top (Senator Craig and his "wide stance") as well as us lowly normal citizens (how easy is it to Google way to many details about your neighbor?) It's called the new age of transparency. It's a trade-off just like everything else. I'm just being a pragmatist, trying to loudly express your civil liberties while going through TSA security checkpoints might get you on the news if thats really your desire but it will not make for a smooth traveling experience.
Rolled out, maybe. Maintained over time? Perl? You must be smoking crack. This is why bugzilla is so - full of bugs itself - its a giant PERL program. gross.
I agree that TSA is not perfect, but the catch the low-hanging fruit, at least. Better than nothing. And the TSA is minor compared to airport security in London for the LAST 30 YEARS. Get a clue, the US is only playing catch up.
You are a "professional PERL developer?" My friend, I'm sorry for your pain. I feel a sinking, dark sensation as I consider a life where I must be subjected to thousands of lines of PERL code every day. As a long time J2EE developer, I think that if I do evil and goto hell, I will be tasked with maintaining a 100,000,000 line PERL program for all of eternity with managers entering my cubical every few minutes asking for new features....
Mom, will you stop tracking my Slashdot posting? I'm sorry I didn't take out the garbage but I'm sick of you making these fake account and trolling me! Sorry, I gotta go do my homework...*grrr*
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Sure, mastering C and ADA skills might help me become a good college professor who has no clue ow to be productive in the real world; but I'll take my 10 years of Java skills, home ownership and a high 6 figure salary over the drudgery of college professorship any day. Idiots with PHD's.
Can WordPerfect 5.1 can read WordPerfect 6.0 files?
So wait, you buy version 2 of a piece of software, save the file as version 2, and bitch when you send it to a user with version 1 who cannot read it? I call that "user error".
What, is save-as-office-2003 to difficult for you?
Oh comon, I added that mod like 4 years ago. Who do you think makes me nice iced lemonade every day? I got NASA beat by a mile!
Dude. One word. High Joule Surge Protector. Well, 4 words. 12 really.
Big Deal, I bought a little rover from Radio Shack 6 years ago, and it's still running!
I always found that WordPefect felt "klunky" compared to Word. I think it because Microsoft used API's hidden to other developers? Regardless of feature set - for the average user, Word is just easier and smoother to use.
Help me understand why WORD has such a massive market share?
Sorry, I was moving way to fast. What I am saying is, Apple products are not popular in most corporations. For a large training organization - where presentation software is very critical to our success - it's a great deal cheaper (both in terms of maintaining hardware, understanding of the software, etc) to standardize on Windows/PowerPoint. There. Was that easier for you to understand?
That's really nice for the 1% market share that uses Apple products have in corporate America, but some of us are living in the real world.
Yea, you do not use WORD for make a book - you use formal book authoring software. But doe day-to-day bizDocs, word is on top for a reason.
I do professional presentation work - nothing is even close to PowerPoint in terms of robustness and look and feel. Word is a bloated mess, but nothing is even close to being as responsive (for lack of a better word). The finance world uses Excel. The entire finance world. duh. It's hard to quantify - but Word, PowerPoint and Excel are unmatched in excellence. OpenOffice.org is nice - but buggy and a little "off" in terms of the user experience. Google's apps are neat for personal use - but not for a pro. I use Firefox and Thunderbird for email - Outlook is awful. But parent, you missed the point. MS is doing this primary for security concearns. These old formats never even considered security in their design. Remember the WMF flaws? Do you really expect MS to go back and security-proof these old formats? I hate MS monopoly as much as the rest of SD, but you can call me a fool or a sock puppet - but I'm not moving from office until something better comes out. And I'm glad MS turned off these potential attack vectors case I do not need a 10+year old word interpreter to do ANY of my business.
"Linux is a superbly polished copy of an antique" WHAT? Have you actually looked at any of the linux source code? It's a complete mess with different styles, coding conventions and comments. It's a mess, at best. You want polished? Look no further than BSD. They pier-review the code (polish) on a regular basis. Now thats a real OS.
At least you didn't use the entire corporate network to find the next prime number. :)
What a scumbag spammer. Can't we block this "Anonymous" guy? He posts lie 50 times on each thread and often he is spammy or rude. And does this guy ever sleep? Is he on slashdot every day all day? The same guy causes all kinds of trouble on other sites, too. I'm so sick of this "Anonymous" guy....
Welcome Java. Our client side code has had integrated easy to program multi-threading capability since 1997 or earlier. I agree, we have problems with slowness on old-school processors and start up times, but when 8-16 core PC's are the norm, and the gui of the JDK changes radically around Java 7/8, Java might start to be a real possibility for enterprise wide client-side programming - with the exception of gaming and high end graphic needs.
Ok, so Google is not stealing. Leeching maybe, but by no means stealing by the legal meaning of the world. And yes, Google gives quite a bit of code back to the community. I'm fond of their JavaScript XPATH library, it's one of the only ones I've seen that work in a robust cross browser way (even though I've moved to JSON). I guess my question is, can you point me to a public distribution of Linux that will hold up to Six Sigma reliability running a mission critical database server that does not require extensive customization?
I do not have the $ to to branch Linux and hire 100's of phd's to build me a *custom* version of Linux specific to my organization. They are essentially stealing Linux and never give back any of the most interesting code to the comuuuuuuuunity. That is not open source, it's called leeching. And that is exactly what Amazon and Google has done with their own *NIX variants. You fanboi's should be up in arms about this, not praising the big boys for stealing and branching Linux for their own proprietary uses.
You logic flawed. This is not just about protecting American lives, it's about protecting airline transportation which is vital to commerce. We are in a new age where privacy is all but gone. That goes for the folks at the top (Senator Craig and his "wide stance") as well as us lowly normal citizens (how easy is it to Google way to many details about your neighbor?) It's called the new age of transparency. It's a trade-off just like everything else. I'm just being a pragmatist, trying to loudly express your civil liberties while going through TSA security checkpoints might get you on the news if thats really your desire but it will not make for a smooth traveling experience.
Rolled out, maybe. Maintained over time? Perl? You must be smoking crack. This is why bugzilla is so - full of bugs itself - its a giant PERL program. gross.
I agree that TSA is not perfect, but the catch the low-hanging fruit, at least. Better than nothing. And the TSA is minor compared to airport security in London for the LAST 30 YEARS. Get a clue, the US is only playing catch up.
You are a "professional PERL developer?" My friend, I'm sorry for your pain. I feel a sinking, dark sensation as I consider a life where I must be subjected to thousands of lines of PERL code every day. As a long time J2EE developer, I think that if I do evil and goto hell, I will be tasked with maintaining a 100,000,000 line PERL program for all of eternity with managers entering my cubical every few minutes asking for new features....
Mom, will you stop tracking my Slashdot posting? I'm sorry I didn't take out the garbage but I'm sick of you making these fake account and trolling me! Sorry, I gotta go do my homework...*grrr* PS: Slashdot