Yeah, except not really. Try Gnome, Xfce or LXDE's default desktops, while KDE and Enlightenment may have chosen to follow in Windows' garish footsteps there's still plenty of desktops more conservative than Apple's. And hardware? one word: Lenovo.
Scientists, as you say, are self-interested jerks. In medicine, studies which contradict drug-company studies tend to get buried. Studies that the drug companies funded that don't reach the desired conclusion get buried very, very quickly (in fact, they oftentimes pay the study head off to not even bother publishing).
Yeah. That's because Big Pharma hold a significant stranglehold on the economies of various countries, enough for instance to force Brazil to change their law just because it interfered with their business practices.
Now ask yourself, who is closer to Big Pharma's levels of funding and sheer power in the "climate change" debate, the activists or Big Oil?
Skeptics are taking minor errors and trying to blow them up to ridiculous proportion.
You've just described the entire *purpose* of the anti-AGW movement in a nutshell. I mean, there's tons of data out there proving the harmful effects of CO2 contamination on the world, only one of which is the potential effect on global climate, yet even here in Slashdot, alleged home of geeks and nerds we have idiots practically stating that if climate change is proven incorrect, then contamination is all fine and dandy.
It's as if scientists warn you that drinking something will cause your liver to be shut down, your brain cells to die and maybe some hair loss as well, and you reply "ha! I'm already bald" and drink it anyways.
It wouldn't apply on the job if we'd fixed it in elementary school, so they had all the same chances for a suburban-quality education back when suburban-quality educations were still good (but urban educations were not).
For that to be the case, though, their parents would have needed to have it applied on their jobs (so they could pay for a home in the suburbs and college for their kids), or would have needed it to be fixed when those parents were in elementary school, which means it would have needed to be fixed when their parents had jobs, or when their parents were in elemenary school. And it certainly wouldn't have been fixed then because segregation was the law back then.
Or you could've paid for better public education, therefore eliminating the requirement of having money to get a decent education, therefore eliminating the need to actively discriminate in the workforce, therefore leaving everybody happy.
Yeah, yeah, the evils of public education and all that. Forcing companies to hire sub-standard workers is worse by far.
It's that fully qualified members of minority groups are both actively and passively discriminated against in employment, a fact which has been proven over and over again.
Care to point to a few such proofs? and note that by that I mean a proper study, not just one or two isolated cases.
That sort of information should be freely available iff there are no laws penalizing the publishing of said information. There are, therefore it shouldn't.
Interpreting TeX would be an extremely useful ability to anyone studying/working in Mathematics. While there's a few Engineering departments out there that have switched to Office in recent times for reasons we cannot begin to comprehend, I've yet to hear of a single Math department that uses anything else.
Ohh, and as far as "typical consumers" go, the Kindle is pretty bad as well: half its features work only within the United States which, as you may be aware, holds a relatively small portion of the world's "typical consumers".
Pirate Bay is the best source for books? I don't think so. Project Gutenberg is the best source for books, unless you want technical manuals--then it depends upon what you need.
Mildly off-topic, but for Project Gutenberg books I'd greatly recommend ManyBooks.net, they have most of the PG books available in multiple formats (and I *do* mean multiple, check it out) and with user reviews to help you find the better ones.
It's not, I believe, about being 'better' as in 'healthier' but rather 'better' as in 'more comfortable'. I've been using computers for 20 years now, like you I've done it for over 10 hours at a time on both LCDs and CRTs, and it may have not affected my eyesight but it certainly made my eyes *hurt*, to the point that by the time I finished whatever was I doing, all I wanted was to lie down in bed with my eyes closed shut.
I haven't used an eInk device yet, so I can't tell you if they're any better, but for me I abandoned the prospect of using an LCD screen for serious reading a long time ago, and I think any serious reader will have done the same. If you're a light reader, sure, a good Tablet PC makes a lot more sense from a price/flexibility standpoint, but if half the promises of eInk are true, for any serious reader a separate, *proper* reader is a necessity regardless.
So, now I have to find some independents to support. Know any good sites that of course will have samples of the music to help guide me?
Two websites that I know of: Magnatune, as its been mentioned on Slashdot a few times, is a "do no evil" music label that actually does that. Their classical collection in particular is excellent, and added to the fact that they've got FLAC downloads alongside the usual lossy formats it's a must-have for any classical fan, though they've got some interesting stuff in their other genres as well. You can listen to the whole album for free (as a stream) before purchasing, and they've even got an all-you-can-eat model with monthly payments as well.
And the other is Jamendo, which contrary to Magnatune has a fairly small classical collection but the amount (and diversity) of indie rock is simply staggering, and they've got a decent catalogue of other genres as well. Free downloads in both MP3 and OGG formats with handy donation buttons and user reviews.
Outside of that, though, all I know is good ol' MySpace where pretty much *every* independant artist/band/whatever has a webpage, though that makes it kinda hard to pick the wheat from the chaff but YMMV.
Because a lot of us have talked to a lot of people that do like it. Why is THAT so hard for YOU to believe?
So the fact that some people like it means that nobody could dislike it, and anybody who claims as such is doing so for reasons unrelated to the iPad itself.
Why should we have to "recognize" that? He didn't mention the other way being wrong or right - only you assume which way is meant!
Not really, it was fairly clear.
Well honestly who says that? For me it's the best choice, obviously not for you. But only Apple Haters think people say that, real Apple users don't say that.
Read up on any Slashdot story involving the iPhone, *ever*. If you haven't seen them, you simply aren't looking. Or its your subconscious won't allow you to parse them.
Do you see that key word "some"? That I highlighted myself in my summary before? How is asking for just SOME other makers of devices to share the philosophy a desire to alter the whole market?
I already explained why, if you can't understand it it's not my problem.
Nothing could be worse than something once finished which gets re-written into something 8 times longer, or something written specifically for length in the first place. Exhibit one: Moby Dick. Exhibit two: much of Charles Dickens. If this is true you've probably convinced me to never read Foundation, or at least to track down the original short stories rather than trudge through a novelization of a short yet clearly complete, cerebral, and influential story.
IIRC, the 'longer Foundation work' was the sequel, the original novel *is* the original short stories compiled in one handy book.
Haven't gotten around to read the sequels yet, so I can't comment on their quality, but I've read the prequels and they suck *utterly*. But the original novel is brilliant, so go get it.
Because to us those philosophies produce nicer devices that we find more useful. Can you not see the difference between someone who is asking for something they like, vs. someone who ridicules what they do not?
Both still fail to recognize that those alternate philosophies produce nicer devices that *others* find more useful.
Because we are constantly told by those same people we are stupid for thinking the way we do? It's hard not to belittle someone that calls you an idiot, because obviously they are intolerant and that is a shot back that gets to them most easily since someone putting themselves out is superior is generally the most insecure.
Yeah, sure. Calling anybody who dares suggest the iPhone isn't the best smartphone on the market a "geek out of touch with reality" is taking a shot at their intolerance. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
That is every single sentence in the post you replied to. Where is there anything about YOU in there?
The "competitors actually understood that concept" part, showing proof of my first point: intolerance for philosophies that produce useful products for somebody-who-is-not-you. And given his phrasing implies that it's a lack of understanding driving such a philosophy, rather than simply aiming at a different market, would arguably make it qualify for a straight-up insult, but that's kinda depending on personal interpretation.
What is it? Some new widespread fascination with numbers like in 3DMark heyday? "Journalists" taking the easy route by simply running automatic benchmarks? (written "for" Opera competitors BTW...)
Well, it's partly that, and partly that Javascript used to be the slowest part of a webpage by far.
But now that we have Flash, AJAX with its incessant server queries and broadband ubiquitous enough that web designers feel free to go crazy with the 1 MB images, I'm not sure Javascript alone is the bottleneck anymore. But for what is worth, Opera 9 with its 'ancient' Javascript engine was fast enough to provide a decent browsing experience on my old P1 166mhz laptop (though sans Flash), so I think any performance improvement, while welcome, will go largely unnoticed on my AthlonX2 computer.
There is no lack of understanding that these other devices are right for some people.
Really? then why do so many of you ask from Apple's competitors to mimick their design philosophies? why do so many of you belittle those who dare not to follow in Jobs' opinion on what computing should be like?
Bullshit. There is very much a lack of understanding that for some intelligent, mature and decent people a non-Apple product may be the right choice over an Apple one. Want an example? read the post I replied to.
If they used their *own* machines to do the loading I'd agree. But they almost certainly used a small botnet or at least the compromised machines of others to do the dirty work, so they would remain, er, anonymous.
Got any evidence for that? because criticizing a group based purely on your wild conjectures as to their methods seems... cowardly, to me.
I've always wondered whether Pokemon is partly to blame for that... everytime the subject of "micro" and "macro" evolution comes up, I imagine a little monkey killing a bug, suddenly shout "Monkey! Monkey!", start glowing then transform into a man shouting "Man! Man!" as a small victory tune plays in the background.
Because existing Tablet PCs are anything but "affordable". And I'm glad the iPad does have a decent keyboard, though my comment was rather aimed at explaining why didn't I just buy a PDA or similar device, for screens bigger is better of course, but small ain't so bad. Small keyboards, however, are just as hellish as the input mode they're trying to replace and so they don't satisfy my needs either.
For a tablet/slate, I just want to run a few apps/games and get online. I want it to be easy. I don't really want to mess with the file system. I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware. I don't want to have to mess with drivers. I don't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network). I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any fuss.
Good for you. I don't.
I just wish some of the Apple fans on this website understood that concept.
We wanted an affordable tablet PC with the ability to install your own OS on it (and from there an open ecosystem logically follows) plus some way to attach a decent keyboard when needed. Lenovo gave us the former and, while making an hybrid is a strange way of giving us the latter, it'll do nicely for me.
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Yeah, except not really. Try Gnome, Xfce or LXDE's default desktops, while KDE and Enlightenment may have chosen to follow in Windows' garish footsteps there's still plenty of desktops more conservative than Apple's. And hardware? one word: Lenovo.
Most likely, but given that Linux itself doesn't turn 20 'til next year, I'd say there's still a long way until then.
Scientists, as you say, are self-interested jerks. In medicine, studies which contradict drug-company studies tend to get buried. Studies that the drug companies funded that don't reach the desired conclusion get buried very, very quickly (in fact, they oftentimes pay the study head off to not even bother publishing).
Yeah. That's because Big Pharma hold a significant stranglehold on the economies of various countries, enough for instance to force Brazil to change their law just because it interfered with their business practices.
Now ask yourself, who is closer to Big Pharma's levels of funding and sheer power in the "climate change" debate, the activists or Big Oil?
Skeptics are taking minor errors and trying to blow them up to ridiculous proportion.
You've just described the entire *purpose* of the anti-AGW movement in a nutshell. I mean, there's tons of data out there proving the harmful effects of CO2 contamination on the world, only one of which is the potential effect on global climate, yet even here in Slashdot, alleged home of geeks and nerds we have idiots practically stating that if climate change is proven incorrect, then contamination is all fine and dandy.
It's as if scientists warn you that drinking something will cause your liver to be shut down, your brain cells to die and maybe some hair loss as well, and you reply "ha! I'm already bald" and drink it anyways.
It wouldn't apply on the job if we'd fixed it in elementary school, so they had all the same chances for a suburban-quality education back when suburban-quality educations were still good (but urban educations were not).
For that to be the case, though, their parents would have needed to have it applied on their jobs (so they could pay for a home in the suburbs and college for their kids), or would have needed it to be fixed when those parents were in elementary school, which means it would have needed to be fixed when their parents had jobs, or when their parents were in elemenary school. And it certainly wouldn't have been fixed then because segregation was the law back then.
Or you could've paid for better public education, therefore eliminating the requirement of having money to get a decent education, therefore eliminating the need to actively discriminate in the workforce, therefore leaving everybody happy.
Yeah, yeah, the evils of public education and all that. Forcing companies to hire sub-standard workers is worse by far.
It's that fully qualified members of minority groups are both actively and passively discriminated against in employment, a fact which has been proven over and over again.
Care to point to a few such proofs? and note that by that I mean a proper study, not just one or two isolated cases.
That sort of information should be freely available iff there are no laws penalizing the publishing of said information. There are, therefore it shouldn't.
Interpreting TeX would be an extremely useful ability to anyone studying/working in Mathematics. While there's a few Engineering departments out there that have switched to Office in recent times for reasons we cannot begin to comprehend, I've yet to hear of a single Math department that uses anything else.
Ohh, and as far as "typical consumers" go, the Kindle is pretty bad as well: half its features work only within the United States which, as you may be aware, holds a relatively small portion of the world's "typical consumers".
Pirate Bay is the best source for books? I don't think so. Project Gutenberg is the best source for books, unless you want technical manuals--then it depends upon what you need.
Mildly off-topic, but for Project Gutenberg books I'd greatly recommend ManyBooks.net, they have most of the PG books available in multiple formats (and I *do* mean multiple, check it out) and with user reviews to help you find the better ones.
It's not, I believe, about being 'better' as in 'healthier' but rather 'better' as in 'more comfortable'. I've been using computers for 20 years now, like you I've done it for over 10 hours at a time on both LCDs and CRTs, and it may have not affected my eyesight but it certainly made my eyes *hurt*, to the point that by the time I finished whatever was I doing, all I wanted was to lie down in bed with my eyes closed shut.
I haven't used an eInk device yet, so I can't tell you if they're any better, but for me I abandoned the prospect of using an LCD screen for serious reading a long time ago, and I think any serious reader will have done the same. If you're a light reader, sure, a good Tablet PC makes a lot more sense from a price/flexibility standpoint, but if half the promises of eInk are true, for any serious reader a separate, *proper* reader is a necessity regardless.
So, now I have to find some independents to support. Know any good sites that of course will have samples of the music to help guide me?
Two websites that I know of: Magnatune, as its been mentioned on Slashdot a few times, is a "do no evil" music label that actually does that. Their classical collection in particular is excellent, and added to the fact that they've got FLAC downloads alongside the usual lossy formats it's a must-have for any classical fan, though they've got some interesting stuff in their other genres as well. You can listen to the whole album for free (as a stream) before purchasing, and they've even got an all-you-can-eat model with monthly payments as well.
And the other is Jamendo, which contrary to Magnatune has a fairly small classical collection but the amount (and diversity) of indie rock is simply staggering, and they've got a decent catalogue of other genres as well. Free downloads in both MP3 and OGG formats with handy donation buttons and user reviews.
Outside of that, though, all I know is good ol' MySpace where pretty much *every* independant artist/band/whatever has a webpage, though that makes it kinda hard to pick the wheat from the chaff but YMMV.
It used to be. Unless you have some evidence of the contrary?
Because a lot of us have talked to a lot of people that do like it. Why is THAT so hard for YOU to believe?
So the fact that some people like it means that nobody could dislike it, and anybody who claims as such is doing so for reasons unrelated to the iPad itself.
Logic 101, take it.
Why should we have to "recognize" that? He didn't mention the other way being wrong or right - only you assume which way is meant!
Not really, it was fairly clear.
Well honestly who says that? For me it's the best choice, obviously not for you. But only Apple Haters think people say that, real Apple users don't say that.
Read up on any Slashdot story involving the iPhone, *ever*. If you haven't seen them, you simply aren't looking. Or its your subconscious won't allow you to parse them.
Do you see that key word "some"? That I highlighted myself in my summary before? How is asking for just SOME other makers of devices to share the philosophy a desire to alter the whole market?
I already explained why, if you can't understand it it's not my problem.
Nothing could be worse than something once finished which gets re-written into something 8 times longer, or something written specifically for length in the first place. Exhibit one: Moby Dick. Exhibit two: much of Charles Dickens. If this is true you've probably convinced me to never read Foundation, or at least to track down the original short stories rather than trudge through a novelization of a short yet clearly complete, cerebral, and influential story.
IIRC, the 'longer Foundation work' was the sequel, the original novel *is* the original short stories compiled in one handy book.
Haven't gotten around to read the sequels yet, so I can't comment on their quality, but I've read the prequels and they suck *utterly*. But the original novel is brilliant, so go get it.
There's plenty in his movies besides the special effects. Pretty much all of it is humor, though, and I'm not sure it's intentional.
Because to us those philosophies produce nicer devices that we find more useful. Can you not see the difference between someone who is asking for something they like, vs. someone who ridicules what they do not?
Both still fail to recognize that those alternate philosophies produce nicer devices that *others* find more useful.
Because we are constantly told by those same people we are stupid for thinking the way we do? It's hard not to belittle someone that calls you an idiot, because obviously they are intolerant and that is a shot back that gets to them most easily since someone putting themselves out is superior is generally the most insecure.
Yeah, sure. Calling anybody who dares suggest the iPhone isn't the best smartphone on the market a "geek out of touch with reality" is taking a shot at their intolerance. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
That is every single sentence in the post you replied to. Where is there anything about YOU in there?
The "competitors actually understood that concept" part, showing proof of my first point: intolerance for philosophies that produce useful products for somebody-who-is-not-you. And given his phrasing implies that it's a lack of understanding driving such a philosophy, rather than simply aiming at a different market, would arguably make it qualify for a straight-up insult, but that's kinda depending on personal interpretation.
What is it? Some new widespread fascination with numbers like in 3DMark heyday? "Journalists" taking the easy route by simply running automatic benchmarks? (written "for" Opera competitors BTW...)
Well, it's partly that, and partly that Javascript used to be the slowest part of a webpage by far.
But now that we have Flash, AJAX with its incessant server queries and broadband ubiquitous enough that web designers feel free to go crazy with the 1 MB images, I'm not sure Javascript alone is the bottleneck anymore. But for what is worth, Opera 9 with its 'ancient' Javascript engine was fast enough to provide a decent browsing experience on my old P1 166mhz laptop (though sans Flash), so I think any performance improvement, while welcome, will go largely unnoticed on my AthlonX2 computer.
There is no lack of understanding that these other devices are right for some people.
Really? then why do so many of you ask from Apple's competitors to mimick their design philosophies? why do so many of you belittle those who dare not to follow in Jobs' opinion on what computing should be like?
Bullshit. There is very much a lack of understanding that for some intelligent, mature and decent people a non-Apple product may be the right choice over an Apple one. Want an example? read the post I replied to.
If they used their *own* machines to do the loading I'd agree. But they almost certainly used a small botnet or at least the compromised machines of others to do the dirty work, so they would remain, er, anonymous.
Got any evidence for that? because criticizing a group based purely on your wild conjectures as to their methods seems... cowardly, to me.
I've always wondered whether Pokemon is partly to blame for that... everytime the subject of "micro" and "macro" evolution comes up, I imagine a little monkey killing a bug, suddenly shout "Monkey! Monkey!", start glowing then transform into a man shouting "Man! Man!" as a small victory tune plays in the background.
Because existing Tablet PCs are anything but "affordable". And I'm glad the iPad does have a decent keyboard, though my comment was rather aimed at explaining why didn't I just buy a PDA or similar device, for screens bigger is better of course, but small ain't so bad. Small keyboards, however, are just as hellish as the input mode they're trying to replace and so they don't satisfy my needs either.
Or they simply didn't like it. Why is that concept so hard to believe?
For a tablet/slate, I just want to run a few apps/games and get online. I want it to be easy. I don't really want to mess with the file system. I don't want a browser that's vulnerable to malware. I don't want to have to mess with drivers. I don't want to have to manually drag and drop or copy my music or pictures from my computer to my tablet (or worse, dick around with file sharing over a network). I just want the damn thing to do apps, games and Internet without any fuss.
Good for you. I don't.
I just wish some of the Apple fans on this website understood that concept.
We wanted an affordable tablet PC with the ability to install your own OS on it (and from there an open ecosystem logically follows) plus some way to attach a decent keyboard when needed. Lenovo gave us the former and, while making an hybrid is a strange way of giving us the latter, it'll do nicely for me.