Having a poll like this on the net is a sure way to make people go in and vote for their favourite. I remember first seeing this poll on a South Park website, where the site maintainer were urging visitors to go vote. At the time I checked in on the poll, Eric Cartman was #3. Beaten only by Jesus and Hitler.
I would not be surprised to see the same kind of urging on neo-nazi sites to promote Hitler. (although admittedly, he did influence the 20th century a lot, but he was still a dirty bastard)
Has any of the XFree86 mirrors gotten these files yet? I checked the two most local to me (sunsite.uio.no and ftp.funet.fi) and neither had the development snapshot. The main ftp server is/.ing bad:
It has gone that way already. The model's called Lara. She only exist in computers and she advertises for different products (I've seen car ads at least).
Of course, Lara doesn't look real enough yet, but that is because the technology needs to be upgraded a few notches first. We'll get there. Soon.
I wonder how difficult it would be to write a supermodel AI? Do they think? Am I stereotyping now?
It says that this display simulates a 30" display approx. 6 feet ahead of you. It does this by using 2 LCD displays. But is it possible to use those 2 displays to create a 3D picture instead of just placing the 2D display at a fake distance?
The spec page claims that the display consists of 832 by 624 pixels. But on the same time line it says 155M dots. Now, 832*624=519168. This says they use roughly 300 dots per pixel.
Could somebody with more technical experience about LCDs please tell me why that is so?
Or what about exmh? Both mutt and exmh are built on the MH (or nmh) mailkits. They will follow many of the same configurations. Only problem with exmh is that it's Tcl/Tk, and therefore somewhat hopelessly slow if you're running it on a remote computer.
On exmh's website there is information on what patches you need to get exmh up and running with PGP or GPG.
It is possible to do secure X connections if you use SSH for all your remote connections. The ssh daemon spawns a "Xserver" on the remote machine you connect to, and forwards all the X communication to this "server" through a secure link to your display. This way, you can remove some of the most basic X security problems.
I see the problem. However, how can you guarantee that it is "made in the USA"? Since we are talking mainly OpenSource software, there is a great chance that some part of almost every component has been made/modified outside of the US.
Take SSH. I assume it will be in this distro. SSH is currently located in Finland. Putting it in an american based distro is import, not export. (Why are there no legislations on importing things the american government don't want to be exported?)
But since a distro is basically a collection of software, how can anybody say for sure that it was collected in the USA? If say, i log into an ftp server in Belgium on a shell account, and then downloads the software packages from servers in Finland, Norway, Iran, whatever to that computer. Bundles them together and call them a distro. Even if I do that from the US, I still haven't exported anything, since none of it has come through the US.
...until the day somebody hacks into their computer.
Security is important. And it is very nice to see a security oriented distro like this one come out. This hopefully means that the only thing I will have to do to ensure my computer is "safe" will be to check for their security upgrades, instead of keeping track of CERT advisories, rootshell.com, et.al.
That is of course only if I feel I can trust the kha0s people to do their side.
Having a security oriented distro might also make RedHat, SuSE, Debian, etc. incorporate some of the ideas as well, and we will all be much happier.
In very few cases are functionality pushed down because of security. It is usually the other way around. All the functionality can usually be kept by doing things a little different. A little more secure.
Due to U.S. restrictions on the export of cryptographic material, 0.99-pre4 is not available at ftp.kha0s.org. We are working with an attorney in order to determine if and how we will be able to distribute kha0s from the Unitied States.
But does ftp.khaos.org have to be in the USA? AFAIK ftp.kerneli.org is located in Norway to avoid restrictions on IPsec and other security stuff in the kernel. Why do Khaos have to use an american ftp site?
What is definately true is that RedHat text-mode==sucks.
You can say that again. I recently had the pleasure of installing RedHat 5.2 on an old 486/66 with a rather peculiar graphics adapter (a P9000(?) based thing I think).
The problem with RedHat 5.2's installation program was the fact that they have removed the "Monochrome" option for the installer. The P9000 adapter apparently do not comply to VGA standard textmodes, and the result was text-mode buttons where the text was invisible. The same goes to many other texts in the "windows" of the installer as well. I did get it installed tho', since this wasn't the first time installing, but I had to use the "back" butten several times because I hit the wrong button.:(
BTW: Congratulations to Caldera and Troll for their new installartion interface, although I believe I would have just as much trouble with that...
As far as I know, NT does use a limited microkernel. But unfortunately this microkernel is not the only thing running in supervisor mode. The device drivers, and the GDI and Win32 is also located within the Windows NT Executive as of NT4. Now I have no idea really how this looks with W2k, but my guess is that it is basically the same.
The interesting part is the excuses Microsoft presented to their users when they moved the Win32 into the executive. I've seen 2 different excuses for this
from: Moving Window Manager and GDI into the Windows NT 4.0 Executive by Dave Leinweber and Mark Ryland
One of the side effects of this change is that now the Window Manager, GDI and graphics device drivers have the potential to write directly to other spaces within the Executive, thereby possibly disrupting the stability of the whole system.
However, from the user's point of view, that potential to disrupt the system has always existed. If the GDI process in Windows NT 3.51 should fail for any reason, the user would be presented with a system that appears to have crashed. The fact that the kernel is still operating is invisible to the user, because it simply appears that the system is not responding. Such is the critical nature of the Window Manager and GDI.
from:Inside Windows NT 2nd edition (p. 51) by David A. Solomon
Some developers wondered whether moving this much code into kernel mode would substantially affect system stability. The answer is that it hasn't. The reason is that prior to Windows NT 4.0, a bug in the user-mode Win32 subsystem process resulted in a system crash. (...) even a Windows NT system operating as a server, with no interactive processes, couldn't run without this process, since server processes might be making use of window messaging to drive the internal state of the application. With Windows NT 4.0, an access violation in the same code now running in kernel mode simply crashes the system more quickly, since exceptions in kernel mode result in a system crash.
On the first issue, I most say that I have sveral times seen my Linux machine apparently go dead, and then fixing the problem by telnet/ssh-ing in from another machine and kill netscape. If I was just running a server on the computer I probably wouldn't have any GUI up at all.
The second issue is worse. IMNSHO what Solomon describes here is a direct design flaw in NT. The fact that an error in the GUI can make services go down is not acceptable in a system your company depends on. In addition to that, when the userlevel GUI would crash, the machine would die, but most likeliy without more trouble. When the kernelmode edition crash, it might do su by writing outside of it's own memory pool, and therefore might destroy data in the filesystem, etc.
The above paper was found on Microsofts webpage sometime during this spring (it is from April 1996), but I was unable to find it quickly today. Since Microsoft had invalidated the old URL already.
He must have compiled the list of addresses long ago.
In my experience as postmaster, spammers never use up-to-date lists. I receive severel rebounds from the mail system daily from mails destined for no-longer existing users on our system, and which bounce back since the reply-field is bogus as well.
No. I have to agree with Jim here. Having something "Active Desktop"-like would be nice. I currently use small netscape popup windows for this (I never thought I would see those doing anything useful), configured with Afterstep as StaysOnBack and without any window decoration. It's almost there, but not quite.
It doesn't have to be IE though, but there are some other features in IE as well that might come in handy. I for one hate waiting for the huge tables on/. to load before I get to read what's in them. If Opera fixes this problem, I might consider buying one.
Since they will link the binary statically (I guess) against Qt they also could have chosen a widget set that is somewhat more widespread in use.
What library would you suggest as being in more wide-spread use? isn't Motif still the most widely used?
The Trollish licence issue aside, installing GTK and Qt is about just as much pain. But you need both, because some of your favourite apps require GTK and some require Qt. The good thing is: We can have both. That's no problem.
Using Qt was also a predictable decision for several reasons:
Try to get an external company to develop a GTK version. Sure, there are a lot of volounteers that would gladly do this if Opera open-sourced their browser, but they have chosen not to do so.
Since both Opera Software and Troll Tech are norwegian companies, the choice was probably made even easier. Being able to get in touch easily helps the development process.
Troll Tech is actively trying to make Qt more wide-spread. Therefore I think they might do this port virtually for free, just to show of what Qt can do.
Qt is also available for other platforms. A good Qt version may find it's way back into windows as well.
Just my few thoughts on the subject, though. I hope Opera/Troll manages to get a stable and fast version. Netscape is starting to crash just a wee bit too often lately.
A had a short chat with our local newsmaster on the subject. He told me that about a year and a half ago a UDP was enforced upon uu.net because of intensive spamming originating there. At that time, he told me, all the major Usenet backbone servers enforced this UDP. For five days or so, no news where accepted from, or fed to uu.net.
After those few days, all the spammers that were using uu.net at the time, where gone from uu.net. Of course, later new spammers has come to uu.net, but at least now they're aware that it's a problem. (I wonder where they went:).
Perhaps a complete UDP would make AOL actually see the problem? X million annoyed AOL customers have the power to make AOL change that a few sysadms do not have.
Does this mean they will start selling CPUs at extremely low prices provided you sign up for a 12 month account at their ISP?
Would that even be legal in the US? Here in Norway this has been used to push cellular phones. Ie. you buy a phone for 1nkr, and sign up for 12 months with service provider X. This is happening with home PCs too. You get a cheap PC, provided you sign up for an internet account.
Would such a move by Intel force AMD to do the same? What about processor upgrades? Would it be possible to by a new processor cheap every time your ISP contract expired?
Is it posible to use those old Commodore 64/128/amiga compatible joysticks/trackballs in Linux on PCs? The plug is compatible with the cua's but I fear that the pins are somewhat wrong.
A friend of mine had one of those huge trackballs on his C64, and it would be fun to use it in X for feet movement.
On the other hand: Does X support 2 miceinputs at the same time?
I would not be surprised to see the same kind of urging on neo-nazi sites to promote Hitler. (although admittedly, he did influence the 20th century a lot, but he was still a dirty bastard)
It has gone that way already. The model's called Lara. She only exist in computers and she advertises for different products (I've seen car ads at least).
Of course, Lara doesn't look real enough yet, but that is because the technology needs to be upgraded a few notches first. We'll get there. Soon.
I wonder how difficult it would be to write a supermodel AI? Do they think? Am I stereotyping now?
It says that this display simulates a 30" display approx. 6 feet ahead of you. It does this by using 2 LCD displays. But is it possible to use those 2 displays to create a 3D picture instead of just placing the 2D display at a fake distance?
Could somebody with more technical experience about LCDs please tell me why that is so?
OK. My mistake. I once asked for a textmode mail client that supported MH folders, and was referred to mutt. I therefore assumed it was MH based.
On exmh's website there is information on what patches you need to get exmh up and running with PGP or GPG.
It is possible to do secure X connections if you use SSH for all your remote connections. The ssh daemon spawns a "Xserver" on the remote machine you connect to, and forwards all the X communication to this "server" through a secure link to your display. This way, you can remove some of the most basic X security problems.
Take SSH. I assume it will be in this distro. SSH is currently located in Finland. Putting it in an american based distro is import, not export. (Why are there no legislations on importing things the american government don't want to be exported?)
But since a distro is basically a collection of software, how can anybody say for sure that it was collected in the USA? If say, i log into an ftp server in Belgium on a shell account, and then downloads the software packages from servers in Finland, Norway, Iran, whatever to that computer. Bundles them together and call them a distro. Even if I do that from the US, I still haven't exported anything, since none of it has come through the US.
Security is important. And it is very nice to see a security oriented distro like this one come out. This hopefully means that the only thing I will have to do to ensure my computer is "safe" will be to check for their security upgrades, instead of keeping track of CERT advisories, rootshell.com, et.al.
That is of course only if I feel I can trust the kha0s people to do their side.
Having a security oriented distro might also make RedHat, SuSE, Debian, etc. incorporate some of the ideas as well, and we will all be much happier.
In very few cases are functionality pushed down because of security. It is usually the other way around. All the functionality can usually be kept by doing things a little different. A little more secure.
You can say that again. I recently had the pleasure of installing RedHat 5.2 on an old 486/66 with a rather peculiar graphics adapter (a P9000(?) based thing I think).
The problem with RedHat 5.2's installation program was the fact that they have removed the "Monochrome" option for the installer. The P9000 adapter apparently do not comply to VGA standard textmodes, and the result was text-mode buttons where the text was invisible. The same goes to many other texts in the "windows" of the installer as well. I did get it installed tho', since this wasn't the first time installing, but I had to use the "back" butten several times because I hit the wrong button. :(
BTW: Congratulations to Caldera and Troll for their new installartion interface, although I believe I would have just as much trouble with that...
As far as I know, NT does use a limited microkernel. But unfortunately this microkernel is not the only thing running in supervisor mode. The device drivers, and the GDI and Win32 is also located within the Windows NT Executive as of NT4. Now I have no idea really how this looks with W2k, but my guess is that it is basically the same.
The interesting part is the excuses Microsoft presented to their users when they moved the Win32 into the executive. I've seen 2 different excuses for this
- from: Moving Window Manager and GDI into the Windows NT 4.0 Executive by Dave Leinweber and Mark Ryland
- from:Inside Windows NT 2nd edition (p. 51) by David A. Solomon
On the first issue, I most say that I have sveral times seen my Linux machine apparently go dead, and then fixing the problem by telnet/ssh-ing in from another machine and kill netscape. If I was just running a server on the computer I probably wouldn't have any GUI up at all.The second issue is worse. IMNSHO what Solomon describes here is a direct design flaw in NT. The fact that an error in the GUI can make services go down is not acceptable in a system your company depends on. In addition to that, when the userlevel GUI would crash, the machine would die, but most likeliy without more trouble. When the kernelmode edition crash, it might do su by writing outside of it's own memory pool, and therefore might destroy data in the filesystem, etc.
The above paper was found on Microsofts webpage sometime during this spring (it is from April 1996), but I was unable to find it quickly today. Since Microsoft had invalidated the old URL already.
In my experience as postmaster, spammers never use up-to-date lists. I receive severel rebounds from the mail system daily from mails destined for no-longer existing users on our system, and which bounce back since the reply-field is bogus as well.
Needless to say, I hate this. A lot.
It doesn't have to be IE though, but there are some other features in IE as well that might come in handy. I for one hate waiting for the huge tables on /. to load before I get to read what's in them. If Opera fixes this problem, I might consider buying one.
What library would you suggest as being in more wide-spread use? isn't Motif still the most widely used?
The Trollish licence issue aside, installing GTK and Qt is about just as much pain. But you need both, because some of your favourite apps require GTK and some require Qt. The good thing is: We can have both. That's no problem.
Using Qt was also a predictable decision for several reasons:
- Try to get an external company to develop a GTK version. Sure, there are a lot of volounteers that would gladly do this if Opera open-sourced their browser, but they have chosen not to do so.
- Since both Opera Software and Troll Tech are norwegian companies, the choice was probably made even easier. Being able to get in touch easily helps the development process.
- Troll Tech is actively trying to make Qt more wide-spread. Therefore I think they might do this port virtually for free, just to show of what Qt can do.
- Qt is also available for other platforms. A good Qt version may find it's way back into windows as well.
Just my few thoughts on the subject, though. I hope Opera/Troll manages to get a stable and fast version. Netscape is starting to crash just a wee bit too often lately.After those few days, all the spammers that were using uu.net at the time, where gone from uu.net. Of course, later new spammers has come to uu.net, but at least now they're aware that it's a problem. (I wonder where they went :).
Perhaps a complete UDP would make AOL actually see the problem? X million annoyed AOL customers have the power to make AOL change that a few sysadms do not have.
Would that even be legal in the US? Here in Norway this has been used to push cellular phones. Ie. you buy a phone for 1nkr, and sign up for 12 months with service provider X. This is happening with home PCs too. You get a cheap PC, provided you sign up for an internet account.
Would such a move by Intel force AMD to do the same? What about processor upgrades? Would it be possible to by a new processor cheap every time your ISP contract expired?
Maybe in a while we won't have to wait for the reels to arrive in scandinavia before we can get to see it here.
Did I hear "Terabytes"? this has got to be huge amounts of data?
Did I beat those stupid "First Post"ers?
Frank
A friend of mine had one of those huge trackballs on his C64, and it would be fun to use it in X for feet movement.
On the other hand: Does X support 2 miceinputs at the same time?