Seems pretty straightforward to me. If we accept the hypothesis that consciousness is an illusion, there's not *really* a "you" to begin with. "You" are a process that your brain runs while it is active. So, when you restart your brain, your "you" process would run again like normal. If you duplicate your brain completely, there would be two "you"s running. Perhaps, but I think it's also a matter of perspective, you have to put yourself in the shoes of effected person. Whether this maintains the 'illusion', I dont know. Say your brain were duplicated while under, when you wake up which eyes would you be looking through? There is no direct connection between the two brains, so it would be impossible to be "looking" through 2 sets of eyes.
My though is that each individual is like a singleton, and when destroyed, the question of reviving that "singleton" fully (you "wake up" from your perspective) or ending up with a clone that is different (you don't "wake up" from your perspective, a new singleton is made with your memories), is truly the mystery. It's basically a "first-hand" paradox. It's something that seemingly only you yourself could test. Otherwise, from a third-person perspective, it impossible to tell whether there is a continuation of the "original" you or something else.
Maybe someday science will reveal a way to truly test this aspect of the universe, but for now I guess it sits in the realm of philosophy.
Either way, Kennesaw is notorious for having its cops enforce speed limits. Even if you go like 5 miles over there is a likely chance that you will be pulled over if cops are around..
I mean, I'm sure that it could reach some sort of agreement with the content owners. Keep the old system but in addition have high quality licensed streaming of various shows (full shows, not clips). Ten dollars a month to watch the material, and those that want freebie watching can do so with commercials spliced into the shows. There are tons of variations that could be implemented, so what's in the way?
I also had a problem with the Warg battle in the second movie. That wasn't really in the book and I would have been less annoyed if it just ended with the battle for a bit of action, but the whole cliff scene making everyone think Aragorn was dead is what really irked me. That wasn't in the book and it was just Jackson pointlessly trying to tug at the heartstrings of the audience. Adding that to the similar events that ARE in the book takes away from those events IMO, and the time could have been better spent for other things.
"Your perception, your "window" is tied to your body"
But, isn't this in itself (theoretically) an interesting property of the universe? What would the scientific explanation be for not being able to recreate your consciousness?
Maybe it somehow lies on the quantum level that we are all unique in this way from conception and birth. But, as another person mentioned, our atoms get swapped out with new ones anyway every several years, yet each of us still retains our perceptions (at least I know I do). So why would our original atoms be needed?
Moreover, the most baffling thing is that from a thought experiment perspective it looks like you can only attempt to test/verify (assuming the technology) these types of things for yourself only. Because the end result will be an exact clone that to everyone else sees as you, and only you would know if you woke up! Unless of course we somehow develop a way to verify if it is indeed you looking through the clone's eyes.
So could science ever be applicable to such a thing? Seems more like philosophy to me. The one thing I know 100% for sure is that I'm sitting here looking at the computer and typing, so that has to account for something.
I think "soul" may not be the right term, partly because of its religious connotation and partly because it also can be defined in so many ways. What I'm wondering is if in a Star Trek like teleporter (where essentially a person is torn apart atom by atom somewhere and put back together in another location), would you're perception remain intact. What I mean by that is that you have to look at it empathically, as if it happened through your eyes. (Bear this in mind as a frame of reference) Would it be like falling asleep and waking up somewhere else? Or would it be comparable to death, only in the process another person is put together that thinks he or she is you (in other words, you close your eyes, but never wake up, yet at the same time someone does wake up with your memories and a body identical to you). Moreover, lets contrast this with the idea that you can be copied atom for atom. Under such a thought experiment, obviously while your body can be duplicated, it would seem that by reason your perception would not (in other words, once your exact clone is made, it's not like you'd suddenly be looking through four eyes).
The ultimate question is I suppose, that once a "perception" (the world as you see it through your eyes) is destroyed, can it be recreated? Once killed, assuming one has both the means to rebuild a person atom by atom, and an atom-by-atom "map" of who you were, can one "wake you back up" (so to speak), and restore your "window" into the world where you last left off? Or would the end result just be, again, just someone else with your exact memories and body? If the case would be the latter, then what exactly would be the secret ingredient to bring you (or should I say, your perception) back? This lead to me believe, that at least in existence, something "unique" does exist as part of each of us, that transcends what we currently see in the natural world. The other ultimate question is of course, whether this "perception" lives on somehow when we die.
Other questions to ponder:
Could there ever be a way to "swap" or "transfer" perceptions? This is the old story of waking up in someone else's shoes.
Also,What would be the impact of your perception if someone is making a copy using an atom by atom swap? (This is in contrast with simply scanning you and rebuilding you from separate atoms) Take out an atom, and replace it with a different one. Keep the atoms swapped out to make a copy. Would you somehow be seeing through the copies eyes? Or would you keep seeing from the perspective of the original?
I think you stumble upon an excellent point. Thinking logically and assuming the technological advancements are possible, isn't it possible that a matrix-like reality lies in our future? We already see people adopting this idea in a very primitive sense where they play these online MMORPGS, escaping from reality. But what if we could literally shape our reality through such technology and reside in it in a reletively permanent manner?
A matrix-like reality with indistinguishable sensations from normal reality, save from a set of rules which would promote somekind of utopia, possibly unique to each individual. Not only that, but in consideration of any needed technology being possible, you could simply have it so that the machines keep your body in as perfect a state as possible (in contract to the atrophied and controlled state depicted in the Matrix film). This would allow for close-to-true immortality, barring the idea of course of somesort of natural disaster destroying your "sustainment pod" or whatever would be the technology.
Imagine what kind of world it would be if it were exactly the same, save for two new rules: You cannot be harmed, and you are physically incapable of harming anyone else. With virtual reality something like that might be possible.
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Sounds like Knol is trying to be a less sucky About.com rather than a new Wikipedia. But the question is will spammers abuse it?
Either way, Kennesaw is notorious for having its cops enforce speed limits. Even if you go like 5 miles over there is a likely chance that you will be pulled over if cops are around..
I mean, I'm sure that it could reach some sort of agreement with the content owners. Keep the old system but in addition have high quality licensed streaming of various shows (full shows, not clips). Ten dollars a month to watch the material, and those that want freebie watching can do so with commercials spliced into the shows. There are tons of variations that could be implemented, so what's in the way?
I also had a problem with the Warg battle in the second movie. That wasn't really in the book and I would have been less annoyed if it just ended with the battle for a bit of action, but the whole cliff scene making everyone think Aragorn was dead is what really irked me. That wasn't in the book and it was just Jackson pointlessly trying to tug at the heartstrings of the audience. Adding that to the similar events that ARE in the book takes away from those events IMO, and the time could have been better spent for other things.
I fully expect a CSI episode about this.
"Your perception, your "window" is tied to your body" But, isn't this in itself (theoretically) an interesting property of the universe? What would the scientific explanation be for not being able to recreate your consciousness?
Maybe it somehow lies on the quantum level that we are all unique in this way from conception and birth. But, as another person mentioned, our atoms get swapped out with new ones anyway every several years, yet each of us still retains our perceptions (at least I know I do). So why would our original atoms be needed?
Moreover, the most baffling thing is that from a thought experiment perspective it looks like you can only attempt to test/verify (assuming the technology) these types of things for yourself only. Because the end result will be an exact clone that to everyone else sees as you, and only you would know if you woke up! Unless of course we somehow develop a way to verify if it is indeed you looking through the clone's eyes.
So could science ever be applicable to such a thing? Seems more like philosophy to me. The one thing I know 100% for sure is that I'm sitting here looking at the computer and typing, so that has to account for something.
I think "soul" may not be the right term, partly because of its religious connotation and partly because it also can be defined in so many ways. What I'm wondering is if in a Star Trek like teleporter (where essentially a person is torn apart atom by atom somewhere and put back together in another location), would you're perception remain intact. What I mean by that is that you have to look at it empathically, as if it happened through your eyes. (Bear this in mind as a frame of reference) Would it be like falling asleep and waking up somewhere else? Or would it be comparable to death, only in the process another person is put together that thinks he or she is you (in other words, you close your eyes, but never wake up, yet at the same time someone does wake up with your memories and a body identical to you). Moreover, lets contrast this with the idea that you can be copied atom for atom. Under such a thought experiment, obviously while your body can be duplicated, it would seem that by reason your perception would not (in other words, once your exact clone is made, it's not like you'd suddenly be looking through four eyes).
The ultimate question is I suppose, that once a "perception" (the world as you see it through your eyes) is destroyed, can it be recreated? Once killed, assuming one has both the means to rebuild a person atom by atom, and an atom-by-atom "map" of who you were, can one "wake you back up" (so to speak), and restore your "window" into the world where you last left off? Or would the end result just be, again, just someone else with your exact memories and body? If the case would be the latter, then what exactly would be the secret ingredient to bring you (or should I say, your perception) back? This lead to me believe, that at least in existence, something "unique" does exist as part of each of us, that transcends what we currently see in the natural world. The other ultimate question is of course, whether this "perception" lives on somehow when we die.
Other questions to ponder: Could there ever be a way to "swap" or "transfer" perceptions? This is the old story of waking up in someone else's shoes.
Also,What would be the impact of your perception if someone is making a copy using an atom by atom swap? (This is in contrast with simply scanning you and rebuilding you from separate atoms) Take out an atom, and replace it with a different one. Keep the atoms swapped out to make a copy. Would you somehow be seeing through the copies eyes? Or would you keep seeing from the perspective of the original?
I think you stumble upon an excellent point. Thinking logically and assuming the technological advancements are possible, isn't it possible that a matrix-like reality lies in our future? We already see people adopting this idea in a very primitive sense where they play these online MMORPGS, escaping from reality. But what if we could literally shape our reality through such technology and reside in it in a reletively permanent manner? A matrix-like reality with indistinguishable sensations from normal reality, save from a set of rules which would promote somekind of utopia, possibly unique to each individual. Not only that, but in consideration of any needed technology being possible, you could simply have it so that the machines keep your body in as perfect a state as possible (in contract to the atrophied and controlled state depicted in the Matrix film). This would allow for close-to-true immortality, barring the idea of course of somesort of natural disaster destroying your "sustainment pod" or whatever would be the technology. Imagine what kind of world it would be if it were exactly the same, save for two new rules: You cannot be harmed, and you are physically incapable of harming anyone else. With virtual reality something like that might be possible.