Your initial web request usually comes in on port 80 if your the server. This is what Verizon blocks. I stated that it was implied that all inbound traffic be blocked. Now, outbound, your still stuck with the initial call going to port 80. I can't think of a web browser that doesn't default to port 80 and a web server that accept initial HTTP traffic on any port other than 80 by default. If you don't type in http://www.google.com/ most browsers will automatically use port 80. If they blocked outbound port 80, you'd likely not be able to get to Google or many other sites.
You make an interesting point. Would we be better off not knowing about stuff (building up hype) until it's ready? Is this why open source isn't gaining more steam? People expect the instant gratification? Your more likely to pick something up if it comes out "production stable" within a specific period of time? So let's say there's an ambitious project to create a game with ___ feature, but this is going to take years of development and bug testing. Would you like to know it's on the horizon or about 1 month before it's released?
It's not just the moon. If we spent half the money we spent in Iraq on research, we may all be driving fuel efficient vehicles in a few years. Don't get me wrong, I support the guys overseas for getting into a tank and doing what's requested of them, but with leadership like this?
All I'm saying is that we in America could be enjoying richer lives due to technological advances instead of economic decline. Education, Research, and service. That's the next step from industrial progress. We are unfortunately, thanks in part to unions, stuck in the oil that's keeping us from progressing beyond making cars with manual labor.
I actually looked up grok, and I came up with an interesting definition:
grok (grawk) vt., vi. [Martian, to drink] 1. a) to merge, blend, intermarry; lose identity in group experience 1. b) to become one with 1. c) being identically equal 2. to understand something so thoroughly that you merge with it and it merges with you 3. the observer becomes part of the observed
I wish I hadn't. It's like reading a religious text now with all the "become one" and "lose identity in group experience." It's not a damn cult as much as Microsoft and Mac fans want you to believe. It's software.
But I have to wonder... If you "license" your code, and buy the rights to see the docs for a protocol, wouldn't the implementation of that protocol be protected under the "license"? So whatever way to code your program to accept that protocol and speak to it, would be your own code. (Now replace "license" with GPL...) Does this mean the first of many license to license arguments between MS and everyone?
(1003) The objective of this Decision is to ensure that Microsoft's competitors can develop products that interoperate with the Windows domain architecture natively supported in the dominant Windows client PC operating system and hence viably compete with Microsoft's work group server operating system. Microsoft should thus allow the use of the disclosed specifications for implementation in work group server operating system products. The order to supply is therefore not limited to disclosing specifications but also encompasses authorising the implementation of such specifications in work group server operating system products.
It appears to include Domain communication, but I wonder if this includes Active Directory.
Brought up on Engadget: "i wonder also, is if the new DX10 falls under this as well..."
I don't think this includes "local" protocols like DirectX or Office interoperability. Only network bound "computer to computer" specs.
Hey! The EU found a bank that gives out money every time they need it...
* take off hat *
They were forced to open up their "standard" for a nominal fee. How much it helps the rest of the world is debatable for now. All we can do it wait and see unfortunately.
...I know this is off topic, but I just pictured hundreds of people all sitting around coated in what can only be described as white clay staring at the sky.
Wouldn't you say you answered your own question? Once a government body becomes so ingrained into a product that they cannot find an alternative, something must be done.
Pass a measure forcing Microsoft and its subsidiaries to halve their advertising budget for, say, five years.
Kind of like child support, couldn't the law force MS to give half it's advertising budget anyone making a competitive product?...or all of it (based on the average budget for the past 'n' years) for a certain period of time?
Until last week, my parent's friend hadn't even heard about Firefox when I installed it after cleaning off his trojan and porn infested Windows installation. I'd say there's still a problem.
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Your initial web request usually comes in on port 80 if your the server. This is what Verizon blocks. I stated that it was implied that all inbound traffic be blocked. Now, outbound, your still stuck with the initial call going to port 80. I can't think of a web browser that doesn't default to port 80 and a web server that accept initial HTTP traffic on any port other than 80 by default. If you don't type in http://www.google.com/ most browsers will automatically use port 80. If they blocked outbound port 80, you'd likely not be able to get to Google or many other sites.
You make an interesting point. Would we be better off not knowing about stuff (building up hype) until it's ready? Is this why open source isn't gaining more steam? People expect the instant gratification? Your more likely to pick something up if it comes out "production stable" within a specific period of time? So let's say there's an ambitious project to create a game with ___ feature, but this is going to take years of development and bug testing. Would you like to know it's on the horizon or about 1 month before it's released?
What the "space race" lacked for 40 years was competition...
It's not just the moon. If we spent half the money we spent in Iraq on research, we may all be driving fuel efficient vehicles in a few years. Don't get me wrong, I support the guys overseas for getting into a tank and doing what's requested of them, but with leadership like this?
All I'm saying is that we in America could be enjoying richer lives due to technological advances instead of economic decline. Education, Research, and service. That's the next step from industrial progress. We are unfortunately, thanks in part to unions, stuck in the oil that's keeping us from progressing beyond making cars with manual labor.
The undersigned herby agree: /agree
So if I start up a small distro, get paid, and my distro seems to start losing interest... can Microsoft as for it's money back? ;)
Yeah, I figured it was implied. ;)
Would make for some boring internet without port 80.
Verizon blocks port 80, so no web server from you (unless you want to say, go to blah.blah.com:801)
They block port 80 requests for sure. I'm not sure about other common ports.
They also block port 80 if anyone is getting ideas.
I wish I hadn't. It's like reading a religious text now with all the "become one" and "lose identity in group experience." It's not a damn cult as much as Microsoft and Mac fans want you to believe. It's software.
But I have to wonder... If you "license" your code, and buy the rights to see the docs for a protocol, wouldn't the implementation of that protocol be protected under the "license"? So whatever way to code your program to accept that protocol and speak to it, would be your own code. (Now replace "license" with GPL...) Does this mean the first of many license to license arguments between MS and everyone?
It appears to include Domain communication, but I wonder if this includes Active Directory.
Brought up on Engadget: "i wonder also, is if the new DX10 falls under this as well..."
I don't think this includes "local" protocols like DirectX or Office interoperability. Only network bound "computer to computer" specs.
Maybe they all sat down at McDonald's for some "cash browns" and played Monopoly?
* put on tin foil hat *
Hey! The EU found a bank that gives out money every time they need it...
* take off hat *
They were forced to open up their "standard" for a nominal fee. How much it helps the rest of the world is debatable for now. All we can do it wait and see unfortunately.
I was wondering the same thing. "Work groups" were phased out with Domains and Active Directory. Does this include Domain/AD specs?
Can someone read this last post out loud for me?
Good luck playing any games besides Solitaire on that $400 PC.
...I know this is off topic, but I just pictured hundreds of people all sitting around coated in what can only be described as white clay staring at the sky.
This picture seems fitting: http://www.asij.ac.jp/elc/clay/DSC03049_small.JPG
Actually, when I read "C Fonts" I thought it was a new mono space font they wanted to push for programming.
Wingdings of course.
Wouldn't you say you answered your own question? Once a government body becomes so ingrained into a product that they cannot find an alternative, something must be done.
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Oh, I think I got the wrong CD.
Kind of like child support, couldn't the law force MS to give half it's advertising budget anyone making a competitive product?
Until last week, my parent's friend hadn't even heard about Firefox when I installed it after cleaning off his trojan and porn infested Windows installation. I'd say there's still a problem.