> but even if you trace it to a spammer does it really prove the campaign had anything to do with > it? Do you think viagra is behind the v1 4ga spam you see in your inbox? Heaven forbid someone > in American politics play dirty and hire a company to "promote" another candidate... just saying.. This is probably the golden post to hits the nail right on. You do have to consider all possible questions.
Has it occurred to anyone that this could also be used to make a politician look bad instead of good by promoting them? Who doesn't frown on SPAM and botnet-based attacks?
It could be someone who is obsessed with Ron Paul and stupidly decided to produce promotions 'unofficially' out of his own will.
> If I had a botnet, why wouldn't I use it to promote my candidate of choice during its free time? And if you had a botnet, why wouldn't you also use it to produce exactly the opposite effect?
Most people hate SPAM -- infact who doesn't? If an individual gets bombed with Ron Paul promotions, he will either get sick and tired and or think it's an evil work of politicians (first blame would go to Ron Paul, since the SPAM is promoting him). Is it not natural for us, or atleast many of us to blame the first person that we think is responsible (that is when we are deceived at the first few impressions)?
Now in regards to some of the various replies to this article about the Gold and Silver standard, perhaps you should consider the validity of the history and information presented on the main pages of fdrs.org. At first you will think that it is just some semi-random debt relief business, and it kind of is...but that is not the point. Fdrs.org actually has some pretty interesting information that one could research on themselves / consider and think about.
As a personal opinion, I think this botnet was made to make Ron Paul look bad.;) But that is probably just me.
Quite ironically they support Opera, when with Opera you can take the literal Adblock Filter list to copy and paste it into the uifilter.ini file under [Include]. In-fact someone could develop an Opera plugin (or a standalone program) to automatically update the file with the latest Adblock Filter lists.
In the first place, the Net Neutrility and this, both are unconstitutional. Apparently the Congress being loaded with unconstitutional communists that are trying to destroy the united States and give it over to the nasty United Nations and its bad constitution, and we the people, a lot of us, simply either don't care about politics, are distracted (music, media, sports, etc), don't realize it.
You know, there is and was not a single word in any of the local or national newspapers in the united States that reported on the Net Neutrility. It appears that the media is already under the control and power of the government, which is -bad-.
Another thing, although I don't know where this came from, but at some Gunshow the media came to report on how bad guns are. That same day, someone broke into some elders home. The elders were at home and had a weapon; in defense, the burgler was shot to death by the elders. What do you know? The media isn't here to report mainly on the good, but the bad and to try make good things look bad (ie. Christians, guns, etc).
The United Nations constition is the opposite of the united States constitution. Here, you have God given rights. There, the government (or "we") give you rights. Also, there is a little statue thing near the United Nations building, that is a structure of a firearm with its barrel tied into a knot, also stating and showing publically that it is against 'the right to bear arms.'
Every post and comment ever made on Slashdot since this law went into action has been a great annoyance to me, therefore I declare everyone who posts and comments anywhere on *slashdot.* (* being a wildcard) illegally breaking this law and should be immidiately punished with 2 years of jailtime.
Well I feel paranoid about having a machine with a Google OS installed on it; how would anybody know if these masterminds are able to keep an eye of exactly everything you're doing on these machines? Even though it's invasion of privacy, that doesn't stop anybody - such as a hacker from tricking a noobster into downloading and executing a trojan without knowing, and going down 5 years on the road without the computer administrator even noticing the machien has been infected.
The terms 'invasion of privacy' mean little to me, as in whether one could care about another's privacy or not, but is something one must be prepared to clean up tracks to prevent the slightest notice of existance of privacy being invaded.
If I read correctly, Google would want to sell these machines for $10 aside to Windows in stores - and of course the Operating System for free on the net. Are the mice, monitors, and keyboards included or will they be a built-in feature? Just think about it - if this happens, Google could have the priviledge of doing just what some hackers, without people noticing. Google of course will know better the the average person, aswell as planning and tactics. A reply stating that "then Google would be in trouble and they'd lose business," I think would be invalid.
You may have a stadium of 1,000,000 people with their PC's connected to the same LAN network with an Intranet setup. One may be infected and it will hardly even be noticed. Really, even a small group of people won't do it - nor a decent sized group that hate's Microsoft for example (have they even bothered changing course with these [I think ridiculously stupid] hate comments?).
What? I'd rather have the FBI monitoring the internet than the American Communist Lawyers Union bringing America a step closer to communism. It's so easy to block/prevent/disallow the FBI from viewing or interfering with your PC - if only people would get some brains.
Prices - FROM MEDIACOM IN MISSOURI: Plan1> You can get 3mbit Cable "Hi-Speed" (no sarcasm) for $60/month. Plan2> You can get Cable TV for $60/month. Plan3> You can get both 3mbit Cable Internet and Cable TV for $60/month
FROM THE CHEAPEST SATELITE INTERNET PROVIDER I FOUND IN MISSOURI: 56k Satelite for a $150 setup fee, and atleast $80/month, possibly ranging from $100 to $150 a month.
DIALUP FROM FREE4LIFE (AOL + Earthlink + etc Free4Life:D): 56k* Dialup for $21/month for the first three months, then $17/month forever. Absolutely 101% adless, program-free, absolutely no strings attached (I use this service, and I guarantee you it's probably the best Dialup ISP out in America, though sadly it doesn't have the greatness in publicity AOL and stuff has). Just use your Login Username and Password for the built-in Windows dialler, click Connect - and bingo. Not only that, this internet is unlimited (aka no per hours/minute sort of thing, no credits, etc - it's just straight smack dab all-you-can-eat internet).
Okay, I feel comfortable with what I pay for Free4Life. Another benefit/advantage of it - for ever customer you refer to Free4Life, you literally recieve $7/month for EACH customer referred, as long as they stay subscribed to Free4Life. People who are desperate enough, can just live off of refering people. =)
*5.6 KB/sec or the speed of 56k always applies for every Dialup ISP when the user has a v92 Addon for their Dialup Modem.
Solutions - 1) Boycott, but I highly doubt this will ever be successful due to the vast majority of the people who are unskilled with things related to computers, internet, and stuff like that. 2) Threaten companies, maybe this won't work, because then they'll threaten you back.:rolleyes:
Really actually, I think Boycotting is the only valid and most effective solution that can fix it, very sadly; see next part.
Greed - Ok, this is what I think. Prices for products are high for internet in America because of 1) greed, 2) to "equal up" with the currency in Europe (for example), 3) being plain evil, 4) the cost for owning/using satelite fields, 5) the ridiculous wages engineers and operators demand for those satelite fields, 6) the taxes, bills, or monthly payment prices for certain things, 7) gas prices, 8) the government being greedy and evil, deciding and ordering or forcing that companies should pay more to try rob Americans with their filthy pricings, and 8) all or most of all of the above.
Mostly I think the government is raising prices here and there (ie. gas prices), which forces companies to increase THEIR prices (ie. having to go out and install/plant new cable lines, etc - this is in relationship to gas prices).
But of course, most of you will disagree on my part of saying "the governement is raising prices here and there (ie. gas prices)."
This leads to that debate and discussion. Who is really behind all this? Who is controlling these prices? Stuff like that. I am discluding the damages caused by Hurricanes because even before Rita and Katrina hit - Gas prices still were going up.
I've seen lies in the front of my eyes made by the media (the press), how can you people believe everything they say? Are you dramatic enough to not have an open eye and seek second opinions other than the press (ie. BBC News, ABC, CNN, etc - all those big things)? Or are you just ignorant? Maybe you are in a state of denial.
How DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW what the papers say is true? Yes you may go ahead and take and compare the news from other large press organizations - and you can see that there is lots of differences here and there. Must mean it's correct, right? Well maybe - but at the vast probability it is somewhat by average true.
The government can hide their evil faces, the government can act: "Oh there's nothing wrong with us, really - we're doing the *BEST* we can, and we are to our limits. We have no intentions of *HIDING* anything from
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> but even if you trace it to a spammer does it really prove the campaign had anything to do with
;) But that is probably just me.
> it? Do you think viagra is behind the v1 4ga spam you see in your inbox? Heaven forbid someone
> in American politics play dirty and hire a company to "promote" another candidate... just saying..
This is probably the golden post to hits the nail right on. You do have to consider all possible questions.
Has it occurred to anyone that this could also be used to make a politician look bad instead of good by promoting them? Who doesn't frown on SPAM and botnet-based attacks?
It could be someone who is obsessed with Ron Paul and stupidly decided to produce promotions 'unofficially' out of his own will.
> If I had a botnet, why wouldn't I use it to promote my candidate of choice during its free time?
And if you had a botnet, why wouldn't you also use it to produce exactly the opposite effect?
Most people hate SPAM -- infact who doesn't? If an individual gets bombed with Ron Paul promotions, he will either get sick and tired and or think it's an evil work of politicians (first blame would go to Ron Paul, since the SPAM is promoting him). Is it not natural for us, or atleast many of us to blame the first person that we think is responsible (that is when we are deceived at the first few impressions)?
Now in regards to some of the various replies to this article about the Gold and Silver standard, perhaps you should consider the validity of the history and information presented on the main pages of fdrs.org. At first you will think that it is just some semi-random debt relief business, and it kind of is...but that is not the point. Fdrs.org actually has some pretty interesting information that one could research on themselves / consider and think about.
As a personal opinion, I think this botnet was made to make Ron Paul look bad.
Quite ironically they support Opera, when with Opera you can take the literal Adblock Filter list to copy and paste it into the uifilter.ini file under [Include]. In-fact someone could develop an Opera plugin (or a standalone program) to automatically update the file with the latest Adblock Filter lists.
In the first place, the Net Neutrility and this, both are unconstitutional. Apparently the Congress being loaded with unconstitutional communists that are trying to destroy the united States and give it over to the nasty United Nations and its bad constitution, and we the people, a lot of us, simply either don't care about politics, are distracted (music, media, sports, etc), don't realize it. You know, there is and was not a single word in any of the local or national newspapers in the united States that reported on the Net Neutrility. It appears that the media is already under the control and power of the government, which is -bad-. Another thing, although I don't know where this came from, but at some Gunshow the media came to report on how bad guns are. That same day, someone broke into some elders home. The elders were at home and had a weapon; in defense, the burgler was shot to death by the elders. What do you know? The media isn't here to report mainly on the good, but the bad and to try make good things look bad (ie. Christians, guns, etc). The United Nations constition is the opposite of the united States constitution. Here, you have God given rights. There, the government (or "we") give you rights. Also, there is a little statue thing near the United Nations building, that is a structure of a firearm with its barrel tied into a knot, also stating and showing publically that it is against 'the right to bear arms.'
And that goes for WindowsXP too - no wonder so many people have problems with it!
Every post and comment ever made on Slashdot since this law went into action has been a great annoyance to me, therefore I declare everyone who posts and comments anywhere on *slashdot.* (* being a wildcard) illegally breaking this law and should be immidiately punished with 2 years of jailtime.
AND I MEAN IT!
Well I feel paranoid about having a machine with a Google OS installed on it; how would anybody know if these masterminds are able to keep an eye of exactly everything you're doing on these machines? Even though it's invasion of privacy, that doesn't stop anybody - such as a hacker from tricking a noobster into downloading and executing a trojan without knowing, and going down 5 years on the road without the computer administrator even noticing the machien has been infected. The terms 'invasion of privacy' mean little to me, as in whether one could care about another's privacy or not, but is something one must be prepared to clean up tracks to prevent the slightest notice of existance of privacy being invaded. If I read correctly, Google would want to sell these machines for $10 aside to Windows in stores - and of course the Operating System for free on the net. Are the mice, monitors, and keyboards included or will they be a built-in feature? Just think about it - if this happens, Google could have the priviledge of doing just what some hackers, without people noticing. Google of course will know better the the average person, aswell as planning and tactics. A reply stating that "then Google would be in trouble and they'd lose business," I think would be invalid. You may have a stadium of 1,000,000 people with their PC's connected to the same LAN network with an Intranet setup. One may be infected and it will hardly even be noticed. Really, even a small group of people won't do it - nor a decent sized group that hate's Microsoft for example (have they even bothered changing course with these [I think ridiculously stupid] hate comments?).
What? I'd rather have the FBI monitoring the internet than the American Communist Lawyers Union bringing America a step closer to communism. It's so easy to block/prevent/disallow the FBI from viewing or interfering with your PC - if only people would get some brains.
Prices -
:D):
:rolleyes:
FROM MEDIACOM IN MISSOURI:
Plan1> You can get 3mbit Cable "Hi-Speed" (no sarcasm) for $60/month.
Plan2> You can get Cable TV for $60/month.
Plan3> You can get both 3mbit Cable Internet and Cable TV for $60/month
FROM THE CHEAPEST SATELITE INTERNET PROVIDER I FOUND IN MISSOURI:
56k Satelite for a $150 setup fee, and atleast $80/month, possibly ranging from $100 to $150 a month.
DIALUP FROM FREE4LIFE (AOL + Earthlink + etc Free4Life
56k* Dialup for $21/month for the first three months, then $17/month forever. Absolutely 101% adless, program-free, absolutely no strings attached (I use this service, and I guarantee you it's probably the best Dialup ISP out in America, though sadly it doesn't have the greatness in publicity AOL and stuff has). Just use your Login Username and Password for the built-in Windows dialler, click Connect - and bingo. Not only that, this internet is unlimited (aka no per hours/minute sort of thing, no credits, etc - it's just straight smack dab all-you-can-eat internet).
Okay, I feel comfortable with what I pay for Free4Life. Another benefit/advantage of it - for ever customer you refer to Free4Life, you literally recieve $7/month for EACH customer referred, as long as they stay subscribed to Free4Life. People who are desperate enough, can just live off of refering people. =)
*5.6 KB/sec or the speed of 56k always applies for every Dialup ISP when the user has a v92 Addon for their Dialup Modem.
Solutions -
1) Boycott, but I highly doubt this will ever be successful due to the vast majority of the people who are unskilled with things related to computers, internet, and stuff like that.
2) Threaten companies, maybe this won't work, because then they'll threaten you back.
Really actually, I think Boycotting is the only valid and most effective solution that can fix it, very sadly; see next part.
Greed -
Ok, this is what I think. Prices for products are high for internet in America because of 1) greed, 2) to "equal up" with the currency in Europe (for example), 3) being plain evil, 4) the cost for owning/using satelite fields, 5) the ridiculous wages engineers and operators demand for those satelite fields, 6) the taxes, bills, or monthly payment prices for certain things, 7) gas prices, 8) the government being greedy and evil, deciding and ordering or forcing that companies should pay more to try rob Americans with their filthy pricings, and 8) all or most of all of the above.
Mostly I think the government is raising prices here and there (ie. gas prices), which forces companies to increase THEIR prices (ie. having to go out and install/plant new cable lines, etc - this is in relationship to gas prices).
But of course, most of you will disagree on my part of saying "the governement is raising prices here and there (ie. gas prices)."
This leads to that debate and discussion. Who is really behind all this? Who is controlling these prices? Stuff like that. I am discluding the damages caused by Hurricanes because even before Rita and Katrina hit - Gas prices still were going up.
I've seen lies in the front of my eyes made by the media (the press), how can you people believe everything they say? Are you dramatic enough to not have an open eye and seek second opinions other than the press (ie. BBC News, ABC, CNN, etc - all those big things)? Or are you just ignorant? Maybe you are in a state of denial.
How DO YOU ACTUALLY KNOW what the papers say is true? Yes you may go ahead and take and compare the news from other large press organizations - and you can see that there is lots of differences here and there. Must mean it's correct, right? Well maybe - but at the vast probability it is somewhat by average true.
The government can hide their evil faces, the government can act: "Oh there's nothing wrong with us, really - we're doing the *BEST* we can, and we are to our limits. We have no intentions of *HIDING* anything from