Not because I think you are wrong, but because sales folk typically have a different ethical barometer.
You can call it what ever number the sales guy wants, but when someone does a bit of reserch online they are going to see that there is no history. I know for me personally if I didn't see any history on a product, I'll rarely buy it, and if it was version 6.3 and it didn't have any reviews/history I would think it was fishy, and definitely not buy it.
Then again, there are plenty of people out there that never do reserch, so you may fool some of them.
Good luck with fighting the good fight.... you're going need it against sales guys.
John
So if I'm understanding this right if a $0.05 part goes out and it would not be covered under warranty the customer would be charged the fee for the whole system of parts (probably several hundred dollars) while Apple gets to refurbish and resell the system of parts after they replace the cheap part (plus in house labor rates). Yea I can see how this would be win/win for apple. The only way to make this fair would be to reimburse the original purchaser for the parts that would be reused during the refurb, sort of like a core charge when you bring back your old starter motor.
I would also guess that someone somewhere also is making the call that if the time and material to refurbish a system if going to be more then what they can resell the refurbish for, it will still be tossed in a landfill.
I agree completely. I went to school for Mech. Eng. but had a tough time finding a job out of school. So I took a job doing simple design work with mostly tech school grads in drafting. I may not have been as quick at CAD as these others, but after a couple of months I could get twice as much done. This was because I could adjust, they only knew what to do if they had done it before. It's not that these folks weren't smart enough to adjust, they were never tought to think for them selves, to solve problems, and to make educated guesses.
Fortunately, this was recognized at the company, and I'm still with them. Moved up to structural engineering, got my PE, and got paid.
See kids this is why you need thinkers, not tradesmen.
I just woke up so this post is more of a series of mini points then one coherent one, sorry.
I agree that the people need to take some responsibility for whom they choose to elect, and how they interact with them once they are in office. And I think a step in that direction was taken in the most recent midterm elections. However, I don't think that gets the people in office off the hook for doing what they did. Those who were elected all took oaths, and made promises to uphold the Constitution, among others. The points made in this article are important to make people realize what is going on. I think TLF's comments are a good companion to the list, all though I also think the list can stand by itself. I think we as citizens do need to take more responsibility, but it is also important to know what injustices are going on, to know what to take action on. With the lame duck presidency, and both houses of congress less likely to just pass what Bush wants, I think we will have more checks this year. Hopefully that means that the list for next year is not as severe as it was this year, but we will have to wait and see.
I agree that a take home paper copy is a bad idea. So instead have it give you a printout to be put in a ballot box at the polling site. Or have a printout show up "under glass" on the voting machine, thus you could verify on something that would be tougher to tamper with. In either case the paper copy would only be used to backup the electronic numbers (sample to verify, or recount). Could this be tampered with as well, Of Course, but it would be harder.
Anyways, just a thought.
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Not because I think you are wrong, but because sales folk typically have a different ethical barometer. You can call it what ever number the sales guy wants, but when someone does a bit of reserch online they are going to see that there is no history. I know for me personally if I didn't see any history on a product, I'll rarely buy it, and if it was version 6.3 and it didn't have any reviews/history I would think it was fishy, and definitely not buy it. Then again, there are plenty of people out there that never do reserch, so you may fool some of them. Good luck with fighting the good fight.... you're going need it against sales guys. John
So if I'm understanding this right if a $0.05 part goes out and it would not be covered under warranty the customer would be charged the fee for the whole system of parts (probably several hundred dollars) while Apple gets to refurbish and resell the system of parts after they replace the cheap part (plus in house labor rates). Yea I can see how this would be win/win for apple. The only way to make this fair would be to reimburse the original purchaser for the parts that would be reused during the refurb, sort of like a core charge when you bring back your old starter motor. I would also guess that someone somewhere also is making the call that if the time and material to refurbish a system if going to be more then what they can resell the refurbish for, it will still be tossed in a landfill.
I agree completely. I went to school for Mech. Eng. but had a tough time finding a job out of school. So I took a job doing simple design work with mostly tech school grads in drafting. I may not have been as quick at CAD as these others, but after a couple of months I could get twice as much done. This was because I could adjust, they only knew what to do if they had done it before. It's not that these folks weren't smart enough to adjust, they were never tought to think for them selves, to solve problems, and to make educated guesses. Fortunately, this was recognized at the company, and I'm still with them. Moved up to structural engineering, got my PE, and got paid. See kids this is why you need thinkers, not tradesmen.
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I just woke up so this post is more of a series of mini points then one coherent one, sorry. I agree that the people need to take some responsibility for whom they choose to elect, and how they interact with them once they are in office. And I think a step in that direction was taken in the most recent midterm elections. However, I don't think that gets the people in office off the hook for doing what they did. Those who were elected all took oaths, and made promises to uphold the Constitution, among others. The points made in this article are important to make people realize what is going on. I think TLF's comments are a good companion to the list, all though I also think the list can stand by itself. I think we as citizens do need to take more responsibility, but it is also important to know what injustices are going on, to know what to take action on. With the lame duck presidency, and both houses of congress less likely to just pass what Bush wants, I think we will have more checks this year. Hopefully that means that the list for next year is not as severe as it was this year, but we will have to wait and see.
I agree that a take home paper copy is a bad idea. So instead have it give you a printout to be put in a ballot box at the polling site. Or have a printout show up "under glass" on the voting machine, thus you could verify on something that would be tougher to tamper with. In either case the paper copy would only be used to backup the electronic numbers (sample to verify, or recount). Could this be tampered with as well, Of Course, but it would be harder. Anyways, just a thought.
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