I got this link today out of my SANS newsletter. Dave, Marcus Ranum, and others developed their own scanners *and* provide C source code. Also, he has several reports on trin00, TFN, and stacheldrahtas well as pertinent links on the subject. http://www.staff.washington.edu/dittrich
Just think of what might happen if voting was made easy for the masses. Why, people might start voting, and we can't have that, now can we?
All sarcasm aside, I think online voting is inevitable, but it will be interesting to see what entities drag their feet over this because they fear the kinds of change this would bring.
http://www.ouhsc.edu/it/digicomm/int ernet2.asp --Some stuff I collected for our website when I worked in the networking department at the medical school at OU; provides an example of how a research institution is actually handling an I2 connection.
I have seen many comments that seem to equate I2 with a "private WAN" for universities. I think a better description would be that member institutions have private peering, i.e. I am at the University of Oklahoma, and I have traffic that needs to go to hotmail.com, it gets routed through ONENET then off to Cable and Wireless, etc. If I have traffic that needs to go to MIT, it gets routed through the Abilene network and off to the MBONE. Individual PCs on our campus network do not have to "subscribe" as the University pays something on the order of $30K per month to be a member institution.
Incidentally, a happy side effect is that I could theoretically get ridiculous ping times from the dorms at OU to a QIII server at Stanford, since many institutions I know of will not be crazy enough to try to filter what traffic goes on the I2 link. (Most of the POPs will be at something like OC12 @ 622Mbps)
It seems to me there would be a strong surge in used, pre-2000ish cars that would not contain this technology. I think all a law like this would actually accomplish is to wreck the new car industry. (Was that a pun?)
Having had the pleasure of driving in England on a trip last year, I find it hard to believe that motorists in the UK could possibly function at less that 75mph on an "M" road. Talk about white-knuckles...;)
You're right...you're right. OC-192 equivalent. Maybe it was just my wishful thinking.:) But still, I wonder what kinds of applications are going to be able to use this kind of bandwidth.
I mean, the Abilene network is moving towards OC-48 on their backbone, and that will be shared by hundreds of universities, labs, etc. So basically, I'm not sure what the point is in point to point 10GBs...get my point?
What it sounds like is they found a way to achieve OC-768 over a laser. OC-768 comes to about 9.6Gbit/sec (I think), so my guess is the marketeers probably thought they would round the figures up to make it sound nice.
There are several companies out there offering OC-3 and OC-12 over laser right now, so it isn't *too* much of a surprise that we now see this level of service. Think of SONET without the fiber...but remember it may be fast, but line-of-sight isn't always easy to achieve in even moderately crowded downtown areas.
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Guess I'll return to my eternal slumber now... :P
Are they implyinng the DOD isn't an Enterprise class network?
Whelp! :P What's the cutoff, you say? I figured 4 digits still qualified me to be a Slashdot Nephilim.
Or, we could use some other radical numbering system...it's called IP. ;)
Ahem. I seem to recall PGP Phone coming out almost 10 years ago. Wonder if there are similar products today?
I'm still trying to figure out why we even use phones anymore, except for cultural inertia.
Thank you...Please return to your regularly scheduled outrage-a-thon.
Ahem. I seem to recall PGP Phone coming out almost 10 years ago. Please return to your regularly scheduled outrageathon.
Images and video soon to follow of geeks raising their shirts to show their new Tux tattoos on their pasty white bellies...
Will you still get snooped?
You two youngsters keep it down in here!
I got this link today out of my SANS newsletter. Dave, Marcus Ranum, and others developed their own scanners *and* provide C source code. Also, he has several reports on trin00, TFN, and stacheldrahtas well as pertinent links on the subject. http://www.staff.washington.edu/dittrich
Just think of what might happen if voting was made easy for the masses. Why, people might start voting, and we can't have that, now can we?
All sarcasm aside, I think online voting is inevitable, but it will be interesting to see what entities drag their feet over this because they fear the kinds of change this would bring.
I just now realized I said MBONE when I meant to say VBNS...9am is still early for me. :)
http://www.ouhsc.edu/it/digicomm/int ernet2.asp --Some stuff I collected for our website when I worked in the networking department at the medical school at OU; provides an example of how a research institution is actually handling an I2 connection.
http://www.internet2.edu -- The main website for the project.
I have seen many comments that seem to equate I2 with a "private WAN" for universities. I think a better description would be that member institutions have private peering, i.e. I am at the University of Oklahoma, and I have traffic that needs to go to hotmail.com, it gets routed through ONENET then off to Cable and Wireless, etc. If I have traffic that needs to go to MIT, it gets routed through the Abilene network and off to the MBONE. Individual PCs on our campus network do not have to "subscribe" as the University pays something on the order of $30K per month to be a member institution.
Incidentally, a happy side effect is that I could theoretically get ridiculous ping times from the dorms at OU to a QIII server at Stanford, since many institutions I know of will not be crazy enough to try to filter what traffic goes on the I2 link. (Most of the POPs will be at something like OC12 @ 622Mbps)
It seems to me there would be a strong surge in used, pre-2000ish cars that would not contain this technology. I think all a law like this would actually accomplish is to wreck the new car industry. (Was that a pun?)
;)
Having had the pleasure of driving in England on a trip last year, I find it hard to believe that motorists in the UK could possibly function at less that 75mph on an "M" road. Talk about white-knuckles...
You're right...you're right. OC-192 equivalent. Maybe it was just my wishful thinking. :) But still, I wonder what kinds of applications are going to be able to use this kind of bandwidth.
I mean, the Abilene network is moving towards OC-48 on their backbone, and that will be shared by hundreds of universities, labs, etc. So basically, I'm not sure what the point is in point to point 10GBs...get my point?
What it sounds like is they found a way to achieve OC-768 over a laser. OC-768 comes to about 9.6Gbit/sec (I think), so my guess is the marketeers probably thought they would round the figures up to make it sound nice.
There are several companies out there offering OC-3 and OC-12 over laser right now, so it isn't *too* much of a surprise that we now see this level of service. Think of SONET without the fiber...but remember it may be fast, but line-of-sight isn't always easy to achieve in even moderately crowded downtown areas.