The Rothschilds, along with most other people of thier sort, have documented their plans for the future.
For instance, on June 2nd, I believe it was, the Bilderbergs (the select few at the top of the underground heirarchies controlling the world) met at a posh resort in, I believe it was Denmark. The meeting was, as all other Bilderberg meetings, very secretive discussions on basic strategies to gain more money and control. In essense, screwing over the general population of the world. Read the May or June issue of The Spotlight (a newspaper published by the Liberty Lobby) for an article detailing the meeting.
Also, in the 1950s, there was a Congressional investigation headed by Norman Dodd, into the tax-exempt foundations in America, like the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. The investigation found that the first World War was basically one of the best examples of global manipulation by big-money people to enlarge the debts owed to them, thus gaining power. This is done by lending money to fund the war, then lending money to rebuild the world, especially in the image of their choosing. The investigation also found that, in order to hide their direct manipulation they must control education of the country, Forever.
You probably never heard about that... because they control the media.
These are small examples of the massive amount of underground global manipulation and deciet that is still going on today, and will go on in the future, as these people have, essentially, stated in public.
You need to realize that the global elite have exponentially more money and control than the general population believe possible.
They control the United States government. This is why the US government is constantly borrowing money from the Federal Reserve, which is not Federal and has no Reserve. The `Fed' is a privately owned company, created by big-money familes, such as the Rothschilds, who have an incredibly evil and hidden past, present, and future.
They also control the Internal Revenue Service, which is also privately owned by the same families. The IRS was created (quite illegally, I might add, because the 16th Amendment was never *really* passed) to ensure the `Fed' a never ending supply of money to borrow to the US government.
They also control the media, to keep the general population from discovering my previous points. Yes, the Linux media too. Look at the bloodlines and other investments of the people at the very height of the companies who publish the Linux magazines and the large scale Linux related sites. They almost all interweave at some point.
For more in-depth reading on this and related subjects, check out the books of David Icke (excuse the crappy web site). And try to stay open minded.
As new technologies are accepted, the old technologies are often abandoned. The PS2 is a good example. The PS2 can do everything the PS1 can do, plus more. This is why not many people are heard saying things such as "Well, the hell with the PS2, I'm sticking with my PS1". With this in mind, don't you think we could and would use the standard radio bands of today for use with the technology which replaces it? And for that technology's descendants?
I've found over the past 2-3 years (coding under Win 9x/BSD/Linux) that due to the open nature of Unix-like systems, there is more widely available comprehensive help available for these systems.
Take the World Wide Web for example. When you browse the web for Windows coding help, you run into a lot of stuff like "Making your program minimize to the system tray". Where as browsing for Unix-like coding help, you usually find many organized, simple (ie: all info, no frills), and comprehensive papers. Many of which are FAQs, but are still written almost like a manual. Also, web sites with Windows coding help don't usually talk about what is portable and to what. With Unix-like coding help pages, they almost always site sources and tell where a certain approach is portable and safe.
I see plenty of discussion here on the possibilities that any given nation may be opposed to the data hosted at HavenCo. Apparently, you don't realize that this is exactly what the world powers want. In fact, I would not be surprised if our Mr. Lackey was a puppet of the world Elite (political context), perhaps even unknowingly. This is not, in my opinion, a favorable situation. The world needs less centralization of power. This is an opportunity for more. And from the ``holes'' in the story, many exposed by questions in this discussion, all make it seem very likely that HavenCo will be controlled by, as I'll put it, a group unsincere to the cause.
The problem is that any set of tools serving the same purpose as Microsoft Office would be very similar to Microsoft Office. Microsoft's marketing and desktop dominance isn't the only thing that makes Mircosoft Office so abundant in office environments. The main reason, in my opinion, is that the technologists at most organizations don't want anything else. If the program leaves anything up to the user, like any good tool does, other than minute details, that leaves more room for error on the part of the user, resulting in more work for the technologist. Who want's to work more than he has to? Not me. That's for damn sure.
I plan to own a few businesses in my lifetime, and I have pondered running 'dumb' tools on the office computers. It isn't cost effective. Although, I do plan to offer such an alternative to my workers, after they illustrate thier capabilities. The only way an office can use 'dumb' tools is if the workers are competant and have a desire to use such tools.
Note: I use the term 'dumb' to describe tools that don't attempt to be smart. They leave the configuration and such to the user. (dumb is good)
Ok. I will admit, I havn't even read an entire article on this subject except for the past 3 or 4 that were posted on Slashdot. I don't really care what people think about the situation because most of the postings on Slashdot and other forums, along with the comments I hear on IRC are all bias and ungrounded hatred towards Microsoft.
I have a very simple remedy that I find acceptable, take it for what you want. Maybe someone will accually agree with me and take action on it. So here goes.
There is not a doubt in my mind that Microsoft has violated anti-trust laws, or that they have hurt consumers, or stifled competition through it's monopoly power. By doing this they have made unbelievable amounts of money and have "stolen" much of that money from it's competitors. A "structural remedy" will not suffice. There are just two many loopholes for Microsoft to work around. The same pertains to a "conduct remedy". The only realistic remedy I see is to take some of the money Microsoft stole from competitors and give it back. This will revive a bit of competition and we will probably see many more inventive and innovative technologies in the next decade, or so. This will also prevent Microsoft from using it's monopoly power any further, because they won't really have that big of a monopoly, after a while.
I understand that this remedy is "unfair" to Microsoft, but hey.. "you get what you give". People love Robin Hood for robbing from the rich and giving to the poor. How is this different?
I also understand that this will probably cause many small companies to attack larger companies trying to win similar verdicts. The judge can, however, state in court that this case does not set precedence. I know we are going for precedence, in a way, but, with my remedy, we won't really need precedence as the industry's cometition will be revived, at least partially.
Like I said, take it for what you want. I think my remedy is feasible and probably better than anything the DOJ and Microsoft will agree on.
Part one: Slackware is my favorite linux distro. FreeBSD is my favorite BSD flavor. And I would like to see the two projects collaborate, so I'm a bit disappointed to see the split. I've always thought BSD and linux should be a little closer. Are there any major/definite plans for this in the future?
Part two: Now that Slackware is a separate company, are there any other large scale projects in the works? In the interview with the CEO of Loki on Slashdot there was a good question about the lack of "standard" APIs supported under linux. Would Slackware be interested in developing any APIs? I think this would be a good way to increase the user base without accually changing the distro.
I believe it was in the 1970s when a movie theater was taken to court for pumping the smell of popcorn and other items sold in the lobby into the theaters in an effort to persuade people into buying snacks. How would companies pumping the smell of their products into people's homes be different (other than the fact that the user can stop this)? Also, how could the goverment prevent companies from using this technology the way movie theaters used similar technology in the 1970s?
In another sense, it is not allowed in most prisons to play music for a person on death row about to be executed. This is because it is known to effect the emotions of the prisoner, possibly in an unfavorable way. We all know there are many web sites that the goverment doesn't particularily like. I would think the goverment would be granted a ruling to regulate the use of such technology in light of the possible outcomes. As an example, a person is dinking around on the www when they come across a page dealing with abortion. The page uses this technology in an attempt to make the person smell the rotting body of an aborted baby. At this time the person grabs his gun, runs into the abortion clinic, and shoots everyone there. Granted, this is an extreme example, but I believe it is entirely possible, and probable. How could the government regulate this?
On a scary note, think of the new possibilities in terrorism. Since I like examples so very much, here's another. Imagine a terrorist group with quite a bit of money and power. If I lead this toerrorist group and I wanted a certain person dead, I would grab a geocities account under someone else's name. Then I would find a chemist to find a scent tag to cause a fatal mix of chemicals. I would arrange for the proper scent generation system to be given to the person, possibly by a loved one or a secretary or whatnot. And then have a 'spoofed' email sent to the person telling him of this great site, and bam.. he's dead.
Oh and now my attempt to be funny and win a t-shirt:
Most comments on www.slashdot.org would smell like shit.
I believe it was in the 1970s when a movie theater was taken to court for pumping the smell of popcorn and other items sold in the lobby into the theaters in an effort to persuade people into buying snacks. How would companies pumping the smell of their products into people's homes be different (other than the fact that the user can stop this)? Also, how could the goverment prevent companies from using this technology the way movie theaters used similar technology in the 1970s? In another sense, it is not allowed in most prisons to play music for a person on death row about to be executed. This is because it is known to effect the emotions of the prisoner, possibly in an unfavorable way. We all know there are many web sites that the goverment doesn't particularily like. I would think the goverment would be granted a ruling to regulate the use of such technology in light of the possible outcomes. As an example, a person is dinking around on the www when they come across a page dealing with abortion. The page uses this technology in an attempt to make the person smell the rotting body of an aborted baby. At this time the person grabs his gun, runs into the abortion clinic, and shoots everyone there. Granted, this is an extreme example, but I believe it is entirely possible, and probable. How could the government regulate this? On a scary note, think of the new possibilities in terrorism. Since I like examples so very much, here's another. Imagine a terrorist group with quite a bit of money and power. If I lead this toerrorist group and I wanted a certain person dead, I would grab a geocities account under someone else's name. Then I would find a chemist to find a scent tag to cause a fatal mix of chemicals. I would arrange for the proper scent generation system to be given to the person, possibly by a loved one or a secretary or whatnot. And then have a 'spoofed' email sent to the person telling him of this great site, and bam.. he's dead. Oh and now my attempt to be funny and win a t-shirt: Most comments on www.slashdot.org would smell like shit.
If you read the article linked to by the posting, not to far, above your posting you would have had your questions answered without filling database space which makes slashdot run that much slower. Also, the money they most likely spend buying more storage space thanks to irresponsible postings, like yours, could go towards purchasing more important things.
Slashdot Mirror
The Rothschilds, along with most other people of thier sort, have documented their plans for the future.
... because they control the media.
For instance, on June 2nd, I believe it was, the Bilderbergs (the select few at the top of the underground heirarchies controlling the world) met at a posh resort in, I believe it was Denmark. The meeting was, as all other Bilderberg meetings, very secretive discussions on basic strategies to gain more money and control. In essense, screwing over the general population of the world. Read the May or June issue of The Spotlight (a newspaper published by the Liberty Lobby) for an article detailing the meeting.
Also, in the 1950s, there was a Congressional investigation headed by Norman Dodd, into the tax-exempt foundations in America, like the Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. The investigation found that the first World War was basically one of the best examples of global manipulation by big-money people to enlarge the debts owed to them, thus gaining power. This is done by lending money to fund the war, then lending money to rebuild the world, especially in the image of their choosing. The investigation also found that, in order to hide their direct manipulation they must control education of the country, Forever.
You probably never heard about that
These are small examples of the massive amount of underground global manipulation and deciet that is still going on today, and will go on in the future, as these people have, essentially, stated in public.
They control the United States government. This is why the US government is constantly borrowing money from the Federal Reserve, which is not Federal and has no Reserve. The `Fed' is a privately owned company, created by big-money familes, such as the Rothschilds, who have an incredibly evil and hidden past, present, and future.
They also control the Internal Revenue Service, which is also privately owned by the same families. The IRS was created (quite illegally, I might add, because the 16th Amendment was never *really* passed) to ensure the `Fed' a never ending supply of money to borrow to the US government.
They also control the media, to keep the general population from discovering my previous points. Yes, the Linux media too. Look at the bloodlines and other investments of the people at the very height of the companies who publish the Linux magazines and the large scale Linux related sites. They almost all interweave at some point.
For more in-depth reading on this and related subjects, check out the books of David Icke (excuse the crappy web site). And try to stay open minded.
--Drew Vogel
I know nothing about wireless communications.
As new technologies are accepted, the old technologies are often abandoned. The PS2 is a good example. The PS2 can do everything the PS1 can do, plus more. This is why not many people are heard saying things such as "Well, the hell with the PS2, I'm sticking with my PS1". With this in mind, don't you think we could and would use the standard radio bands of today for use with the technology which replaces it? And for that technology's descendants?
I've found over the past 2-3 years (coding under Win 9x/BSD/Linux) that due to the open nature of Unix-like systems, there is more widely available comprehensive help available for these systems.
Take the World Wide Web for example. When you browse the web for Windows coding help, you run into a lot of stuff like "Making your program minimize to the system tray". Where as browsing for Unix-like coding help, you usually find many organized, simple (ie: all info, no frills), and comprehensive papers. Many of which are FAQs, but are still written almost like a manual. Also, web sites with Windows coding help don't usually talk about what is portable and to what. With Unix-like coding help pages, they almost always site sources and tell where a certain approach is portable and safe.
I see plenty of discussion here on the possibilities that any given nation may be opposed to the data hosted at HavenCo. Apparently, you don't realize that this is exactly what the world powers want. In fact, I would not be surprised if our Mr. Lackey was a puppet of the world Elite (political context), perhaps even unknowingly.
This is not, in my opinion, a favorable situation. The world needs less centralization of power. This is an opportunity for more. And from the ``holes'' in the story, many exposed by questions in this discussion, all make it seem very likely that HavenCo will be controlled by, as I'll put it, a group unsincere to the cause.
--Drew Vogel
Anything is possible.
The problem is that any set of tools serving the same purpose as Microsoft Office would be very similar to Microsoft Office. Microsoft's marketing and desktop dominance isn't the only thing that makes Mircosoft Office so abundant in office environments. The main reason, in my opinion, is that the technologists at most organizations don't want anything else. If the program leaves anything up to the user, like any good tool does, other than minute details, that leaves more room for error on the part of the user, resulting in more work for the technologist. Who want's to work more than he has to? Not me. That's for damn sure.
I plan to own a few businesses in my lifetime, and I have pondered running 'dumb' tools on the office computers. It isn't cost effective. Although, I do plan to offer such an alternative to my workers, after they illustrate thier capabilities. The only way an office can use 'dumb' tools is if the workers are competant and have a desire to use such tools.
Note: I use the term 'dumb' to describe tools that don't attempt to be smart. They leave the configuration and such to the user. (dumb is good)
--Drew Vogel
Ok. I will admit, I havn't even read an entire article on this subject except for the past 3 or 4 that were posted on Slashdot. I don't really care what people think about the situation because most of the postings on Slashdot and other forums, along with the comments I hear on IRC are all bias and ungrounded hatred towards Microsoft.
I have a very simple remedy that I find acceptable, take it for what you want. Maybe someone will accually agree with me and take action on it. So here goes.
There is not a doubt in my mind that Microsoft has violated anti-trust laws, or that they have hurt consumers, or stifled competition through it's monopoly power. By doing this they have made unbelievable amounts of money and have "stolen" much of that money from it's competitors. A "structural remedy" will not suffice. There are just two many loopholes for Microsoft to work around. The same pertains to a "conduct remedy". The only realistic remedy I see is to take some of the money Microsoft stole from competitors and give it back. This will revive a bit of competition and we will probably see many more inventive and innovative technologies in the next decade, or so. This will also prevent Microsoft from using it's monopoly power any further, because they won't really have that big of a monopoly, after a while.
I understand that this remedy is "unfair" to Microsoft, but hey.. "you get what you give". People love Robin Hood for robbing from the rich and giving to the poor. How is this different?
I also understand that this will probably cause many small companies to attack larger companies trying to win similar verdicts. The judge can, however, state in court that this case does not set precedence. I know we are going for precedence, in a way, but, with my remedy, we won't really need precedence as the industry's cometition will be revived, at least partially.
Like I said, take it for what you want. I think my remedy is feasible and probably better than anything the DOJ and Microsoft will agree on.
Part one:
Slackware is my favorite linux distro. FreeBSD is my favorite BSD flavor. And I would like to see the two projects collaborate, so I'm a bit disappointed to see the split. I've always thought BSD and linux should be a little closer. Are there any major/definite plans for this in the future?
Part two:
Now that Slackware is a separate company, are there any other large scale projects in the works? In the interview with the CEO of Loki on Slashdot there was a good question about the lack of "standard" APIs supported under linux. Would Slackware be interested in developing any APIs? I think this would be a good way to increase the user base without accually changing the distro.
--Drew Vogel
I believe it was in the 1970s when a movie theater was taken to court for pumping the smell of popcorn and other items sold in the lobby into the theaters in an effort to persuade people into buying snacks. How would companies pumping the smell of their products into people's homes be different (other than the fact that the user can stop this)? Also, how could the goverment prevent companies from using this technology the way movie theaters used similar technology in the 1970s?
In another sense, it is not allowed in most prisons to play music for a person on death row about to be executed. This is because it is known to effect the emotions of the prisoner, possibly in an unfavorable way. We all know there are many web sites that the goverment doesn't particularily like. I would think the goverment would be granted a ruling to regulate the use of such technology in light of the possible outcomes. As an example, a person is dinking around on the www when they come across a page dealing with abortion. The page uses this technology in an attempt to make the person smell the rotting body of an aborted baby. At this time the person grabs his gun, runs into the abortion clinic, and shoots everyone there. Granted, this is an extreme example, but I believe it is entirely possible, and probable. How could the government regulate this?
On a scary note, think of the new possibilities in terrorism. Since I like examples so very much, here's another. Imagine a terrorist group with quite a bit of money and power. If I lead this toerrorist group and I wanted a certain person dead, I would grab a geocities account under someone else's name. Then I would find a chemist to find a scent tag to cause a fatal mix of chemicals. I would arrange for the proper scent generation system to be given to the person, possibly by a loved one or a secretary or whatnot. And then have a 'spoofed' email sent to the person telling him of this great site, and bam.. he's dead.
Oh and now my attempt to be funny and win a t-shirt:
Most comments on www.slashdot.org would smell like shit.
I believe it was in the 1970s when a movie theater was taken to court for pumping the smell of popcorn and other items sold in the lobby into the theaters in an effort to persuade people into buying snacks. How would companies pumping the smell of their products into people's homes be different (other than the fact that the user can stop this)? Also, how could the goverment prevent companies from using this technology the way movie theaters used similar technology in the 1970s? In another sense, it is not allowed in most prisons to play music for a person on death row about to be executed. This is because it is known to effect the emotions of the prisoner, possibly in an unfavorable way. We all know there are many web sites that the goverment doesn't particularily like. I would think the goverment would be granted a ruling to regulate the use of such technology in light of the possible outcomes. As an example, a person is dinking around on the www when they come across a page dealing with abortion. The page uses this technology in an attempt to make the person smell the rotting body of an aborted baby. At this time the person grabs his gun, runs into the abortion clinic, and shoots everyone there. Granted, this is an extreme example, but I believe it is entirely possible, and probable. How could the government regulate this? On a scary note, think of the new possibilities in terrorism. Since I like examples so very much, here's another. Imagine a terrorist group with quite a bit of money and power. If I lead this toerrorist group and I wanted a certain person dead, I would grab a geocities account under someone else's name. Then I would find a chemist to find a scent tag to cause a fatal mix of chemicals. I would arrange for the proper scent generation system to be given to the person, possibly by a loved one or a secretary or whatnot. And then have a 'spoofed' email sent to the person telling him of this great site, and bam.. he's dead. Oh and now my attempt to be funny and win a t-shirt: Most comments on www.slashdot.org would smell like shit.
If you read the article linked to by the posting, not to far, above your posting you would have had your questions answered without filling database space which makes slashdot run that much slower. Also, the money they most likely spend buying more storage space thanks to irresponsible postings, like yours, could go towards purchasing more important things.