Having been an aerospace software engineer for almost 10 years now I can say I have my doubts about cellphones affecting aircraft equipment in a manner that would _significantly_ degrade an aircrafts ability to perform in a safe manner.
In order for any equipment to be approved by the FAA many environmental tests have to be performed, including EMI vulnerability (the amount of EMI subjected to the equipment would probably kill a person if they were in the chamber with the equipment). Not to mention that almost all commercial airlines now deploy fancy Flight Management Systems which use multiple sensors for position fixing and have dual redundant (At least) safe guards and the ability to measure errors in the navigation solution and remove them.
I'd worry more about whether the pilot was tipping back a few at the pub before flying than whether some yahoo on a cell phone is going to crash the plane...
Maybe we should ask the MythBusters?
SGI is a solid brand. Expensive, but solid... My last job we had one of 'dem Onyx machines, this thing was loaded, 26 processors 8 gigs of RAM 4 graphics pipes. Oh yeah, this thing screamed. We used it to drive a flight simulator. Like someone mentioned, they should pair it down and get into the high-end desktop environment and compute with Alienware, etc.
If they disable the option by default, which sounds like the case, and they warn/inform you that when enabled that your computer becomes fair game for them to rifle through, copy, etc. I say nor harm no foul... On the other hand, it is sounds like just another form of spyware.
I for one, will be using my encryption program more often to encrypt my set of files that I don't want spyware looking at.... Let this be a lesson!
Especially since this is 5000 jobs that could be filled right here in the U.S..... Want increased computer sales, then build more jobs here. I know, I know, we can't find anyone here in the U.S. that will answer phones for $1.00/hr... Dell lost one customer by doing this... I canceled my Dell order when I couldn't get any help from someone here in the U.S.
I feel insulted... Do we really need a "security expert" to tell us that the preference is to hack open source code vs. just binary object code? I mean, come on...
Yeah, not a good headline at all... Tricks? Come on! Sounds like a good ol' fashion sting to me. Ever hear about the cops who bust people by sending out fake lottery winning notifications? The headline should be "Mircosoft Suckers Wannabe-Hacker Into Jail".
Good point. I don't think it's intels problem, just that I beleive there was pressure to deliver this chip before adequate verification was done, and now that it is out they have no real incentive to fix the problems as it's deployed. This is very much like microsoft's model, and I just don't like it, although I understand it....
In my little world, I can bet if a system I was working on used this processor we would find that some of the posted problems causing us problems. This is not going to happen anytime soon, but it still all goes back to quality. It's simple, bug machine companies take a risk by delivering early to get profits and market share and hope that the product doesn't cross the line into "sucky" where people return, boycott or whatever...
anyway, I still don't like the model of deliver early for profit, although I understand it. I like my utopian shell, don't crush it!!;)
True, many other processors have errors, but 1 and 1/2 per day so far? Come on. I think much has to do with the more complex processor, but still.
And typically, the mil-spec processors are the same functional civilian version, they are just more tolerant to environmental conditions, in particular temperature. This is where most of the cost is, which is why many govt. contracts call for COTS parts and force the OEM to figure out how to meet mil system requirements (i.e. add really expensive fans and cooling or heating elements if heat/cold is the problem)
That used to be the case, but now the military demands COTS (what they really want is mil-spec at COTS price) because the cost of mil-spec parts have grown upward of 10x in some cases. I have worked a program we were required to use a pentium processor due to studies on parts obsolecence, cost, and certain features. I wouldn't want to say want Intel wants, but actions speak, and when you deliver a new processor that is revealing 1 and 1/2 bugs a day, it makes me wonder...
Being in the Aerospace/Defense industry, this is disconcerning, especially for those of us that deal with the FAA and the imfamous DO-178B. Higher demanding systems are forcing us to use more powerful processors and if they are plagued with "known issues" it may be a problem with getting through a certification by some governing agency. Especially now that DO-254 has reared its ugly head...
Has Intel gone the way of Microsoft? Delivering early to gain market even though the product has sever quality issues and then take the "well, it's not a critical secutriy flaw?".
I guess this wouldn't be racist, just a factor of Equal Opportunity..
One time as a junior engineer with a good technical sense I was asked to interview a candidate to gauge their "technical merrit". I did this and aksed so tough questions (I kept a list of questions, like a test, that I used on interviews). As it turns out, this guy could not cut it, so I scored him low on my review sheet. Turns out my tech lead did too. A day later the program manager called us both up and asked why we scored this candidate so low, as if we were being racist... The candidate was a mexican-american... Our PM said flat out, "do you know how hard it is to find a mexican-american engineer?". He then handed us back our yellow review sheets. We knew what to do. Gave him a 4 out of 5. His original score was a 2... I was young, and got a real lesson there, don't know what it was, but it did make me a bit mad.
I for one like to have in depth, multiple phone interviews and have fact based questions that I can score to determine technical merrit and personality. Then I call for a face-to-face (usually I have made up my mind), and several times the person who showed up was not whitey, and I recommended them be hired "anyway". The phone is great way to avoid the issue, especially if you spend some time customizing your interviewing skill.
This is truly disturbing. What a bunch of losers. _Most_ of my CS course were very interesting and there was plenty of opportunity to get the source code from some place else, but all of my classmates (I had very small classes, in some cases myself and 4 others) would never have done this. I doubt anyone who reads/participates on slashdot would do this either. The real nerds want to learn.
This is a sign of what is to come and why American students continuously score lower than students in other countries. We are truly becoming fat lazy Americans.
As Perry Ferrell says: "We'll make great pets."
So, basically, I should hoard a bunch of gas and build a bad-ass gas-hog car with a super charger and a nitrous intake. got it. I'll get right on that.
... good guys, or bad guys?
If the guidelines for detecting spyware are published and agreed upon, won't the spyware jockies use them to their advantage, like a slick tax accountant snaking through tax law holes?
Here here! I am in embedded systems programming and sometimes it is imperative that you understand the under the hood stuff.
As far as advanced technology in cars, its the same old sh** different day... All technology seems to be making people lazy and stupid, I mean they (universities) will probably stop teaching calculus soon and start teaching how-to for Math-Cad. What about fire? When was the last time you rubbed 2 sticks together to get flame? If anything this will help get back to some good ol' Darwinism.... The schmo's who rely on anti-lock breaks, auto-break, radar adaptive speed control, etc. will more likely kill themselves in a snowstorm over those of us who rely on good ol' common sense and explore the "geez, what if I didn't have this crap?" scenario. I personally still practice collision avoidance techniques in my vehicle (and older ones) just because its fun, not to mention it will (and has) helped me avoid the jack-hole that came across the median because he thought his 4x4 could fly...
Awesome! Did not know that! I agree, any released document should be.pdf. The security is better, there is less risk of modifications to the document and it really is something that anyone can view.
We used.pdf so that we could do electronic reviews and go to a paperless type environment. Our requirements for paperwork meant we had to archive all this stuff and an 8 meg word document could easily be parsed into a 500Kb.pdf file.
Thanks for the tip!!!!
OO is a great alternative for simple documents and spreadsheets that most corporate users do. Start getting into bigger more advanced docs and the compatibilty rears its ugly head... I prefer delivering my documents in.pdf form. My last job we used.pdf documents because we had to archive all our stuff and do peer reviews with "signatures" and the digital signatures in Adobe were great... Getting Adobe's.pdf writer to work is something I haven't looked into but might help the cause!
I hope she wins, then counter-sues for emotional distress, and lost wages (I just read that an estimated salary for a stay-at-home-mom should be like 150K a year), and of course legal fees.
Oh boo hoo that this practice may take away from Microsloths profits, now Bill Gates and his cronies will have to cut back and only buy diamonique slippers instead of the real deal....
You'd have to sell me a discounted Microsloth product, I wouldn't pay full price for the privilege of running a viral petri dish on my computer!
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Having been an aerospace software engineer for almost 10 years now I can say I have my doubts about cellphones affecting aircraft equipment in a manner that would _significantly_ degrade an aircrafts ability to perform in a safe manner. In order for any equipment to be approved by the FAA many environmental tests have to be performed, including EMI vulnerability (the amount of EMI subjected to the equipment would probably kill a person if they were in the chamber with the equipment). Not to mention that almost all commercial airlines now deploy fancy Flight Management Systems which use multiple sensors for position fixing and have dual redundant (At least) safe guards and the ability to measure errors in the navigation solution and remove them. I'd worry more about whether the pilot was tipping back a few at the pub before flying than whether some yahoo on a cell phone is going to crash the plane... Maybe we should ask the MythBusters?
SGI is a solid brand. Expensive, but solid... My last job we had one of 'dem Onyx machines, this thing was loaded, 26 processors 8 gigs of RAM 4 graphics pipes. Oh yeah, this thing screamed. We used it to drive a flight simulator. Like someone mentioned, they should pair it down and get into the high-end desktop environment and compute with Alienware, etc.
If they disable the option by default, which sounds like the case, and they warn/inform you that when enabled that your computer becomes fair game for them to rifle through, copy, etc. I say nor harm no foul... On the other hand, it is sounds like just another form of spyware. I for one, will be using my encryption program more often to encrypt my set of files that I don't want spyware looking at.... Let this be a lesson!
NOT! Who would pay M$ for virus protection. They should focus their resources and energy on fixing all their stupid security leaks in their crappy OS.
Especially since this is 5000 jobs that could be filled right here in the U.S..... Want increased computer sales, then build more jobs here. I know, I know, we can't find anyone here in the U.S. that will answer phones for $1.00/hr... Dell lost one customer by doing this... I canceled my Dell order when I couldn't get any help from someone here in the U.S.
I feel insulted... Do we really need a "security expert" to tell us that the preference is to hack open source code vs. just binary object code? I mean, come on...
and you forgot: "My dad can kick your dad's ass..." lol
Yeah, not a good headline at all... Tricks? Come on! Sounds like a good ol' fashion sting to me. Ever hear about the cops who bust people by sending out fake lottery winning notifications? The headline should be "Mircosoft Suckers Wannabe-Hacker Into Jail".
Burn! yeah burn, fire! huhhu hhhuuuhhh hhuhhh
Anyone heard what they predict for this year? 66 degrees in NYC in the middle of January _isn't_ normal.....
Good point. I don't think it's intels problem, just that I beleive there was pressure to deliver this chip before adequate verification was done, and now that it is out they have no real incentive to fix the problems as it's deployed. This is very much like microsoft's model, and I just don't like it, although I understand it.... In my little world, I can bet if a system I was working on used this processor we would find that some of the posted problems causing us problems. This is not going to happen anytime soon, but it still all goes back to quality. It's simple, bug machine companies take a risk by delivering early to get profits and market share and hope that the product doesn't cross the line into "sucky" where people return, boycott or whatever... anyway, I still don't like the model of deliver early for profit, although I understand it. I like my utopian shell, don't crush it!! ;)
True, many other processors have errors, but 1 and 1/2 per day so far? Come on. I think much has to do with the more complex processor, but still. And typically, the mil-spec processors are the same functional civilian version, they are just more tolerant to environmental conditions, in particular temperature. This is where most of the cost is, which is why many govt. contracts call for COTS parts and force the OEM to figure out how to meet mil system requirements (i.e. add really expensive fans and cooling or heating elements if heat/cold is the problem)
That used to be the case, but now the military demands COTS (what they really want is mil-spec at COTS price) because the cost of mil-spec parts have grown upward of 10x in some cases. I have worked a program we were required to use a pentium processor due to studies on parts obsolecence, cost, and certain features. I wouldn't want to say want Intel wants, but actions speak, and when you deliver a new processor that is revealing 1 and 1/2 bugs a day, it makes me wonder...
Being in the Aerospace/Defense industry, this is disconcerning, especially for those of us that deal with the FAA and the imfamous DO-178B. Higher demanding systems are forcing us to use more powerful processors and if they are plagued with "known issues" it may be a problem with getting through a certification by some governing agency. Especially now that DO-254 has reared its ugly head... Has Intel gone the way of Microsoft? Delivering early to gain market even though the product has sever quality issues and then take the "well, it's not a critical secutriy flaw?".
I guess this wouldn't be racist, just a factor of Equal Opportunity.. One time as a junior engineer with a good technical sense I was asked to interview a candidate to gauge their "technical merrit". I did this and aksed so tough questions (I kept a list of questions, like a test, that I used on interviews). As it turns out, this guy could not cut it, so I scored him low on my review sheet. Turns out my tech lead did too. A day later the program manager called us both up and asked why we scored this candidate so low, as if we were being racist... The candidate was a mexican-american... Our PM said flat out, "do you know how hard it is to find a mexican-american engineer?". He then handed us back our yellow review sheets. We knew what to do. Gave him a 4 out of 5. His original score was a 2... I was young, and got a real lesson there, don't know what it was, but it did make me a bit mad. I for one like to have in depth, multiple phone interviews and have fact based questions that I can score to determine technical merrit and personality. Then I call for a face-to-face (usually I have made up my mind), and several times the person who showed up was not whitey, and I recommended them be hired "anyway". The phone is great way to avoid the issue, especially if you spend some time customizing your interviewing skill.
This is truly disturbing. What a bunch of losers. _Most_ of my CS course were very interesting and there was plenty of opportunity to get the source code from some place else, but all of my classmates (I had very small classes, in some cases myself and 4 others) would never have done this. I doubt anyone who reads/participates on slashdot would do this either. The real nerds want to learn. This is a sign of what is to come and why American students continuously score lower than students in other countries. We are truly becoming fat lazy Americans. As Perry Ferrell says: "We'll make great pets."
So, basically, I should hoard a bunch of gas and build a bad-ass gas-hog car with a super charger and a nitrous intake. got it. I'll get right on that.
And you can hear the whine of the newbie marketing exec: "But it was my first day..."
... good guys, or bad guys? If the guidelines for detecting spyware are published and agreed upon, won't the spyware jockies use them to their advantage, like a slick tax accountant snaking through tax law holes?
Here here! I am in embedded systems programming and sometimes it is imperative that you understand the under the hood stuff. As far as advanced technology in cars, its the same old sh** different day... All technology seems to be making people lazy and stupid, I mean they (universities) will probably stop teaching calculus soon and start teaching how-to for Math-Cad. What about fire? When was the last time you rubbed 2 sticks together to get flame? If anything this will help get back to some good ol' Darwinism.... The schmo's who rely on anti-lock breaks, auto-break, radar adaptive speed control, etc. will more likely kill themselves in a snowstorm over those of us who rely on good ol' common sense and explore the "geez, what if I didn't have this crap?" scenario. I personally still practice collision avoidance techniques in my vehicle (and older ones) just because its fun, not to mention it will (and has) helped me avoid the jack-hole that came across the median because he thought his 4x4 could fly...
Awesome! Did not know that! I agree, any released document should be .pdf. The security is better, there is less risk of modifications to the document and it really is something that anyone can view.
We used .pdf so that we could do electronic reviews and go to a paperless type environment. Our requirements for paperwork meant we had to archive all this stuff and an 8 meg word document could easily be parsed into a 500Kb .pdf file.
Thanks for the tip!!!!
OO is a great alternative for simple documents and spreadsheets that most corporate users do. Start getting into bigger more advanced docs and the compatibilty rears its ugly head... I prefer delivering my documents in .pdf form. My last job we used .pdf documents because we had to archive all our stuff and do peer reviews with "signatures" and the digital signatures in Adobe were great... Getting Adobe's .pdf writer to work is something I haven't looked into but might help the cause!
I hope she wins, then counter-sues for emotional distress, and lost wages (I just read that an estimated salary for a stay-at-home-mom should be like 150K a year), and of course legal fees.
Oh boo hoo that this practice may take away from Microsloths profits, now Bill Gates and his cronies will have to cut back and only buy diamonique slippers instead of the real deal.... You'd have to sell me a discounted Microsloth product, I wouldn't pay full price for the privilege of running a viral petri dish on my computer!
Man, I guess all the other problems in NY are solved, and now the lawmakers have too much time on their hands....