Paying in cash, not accepting value cards, and lying through your teeth on any papers they have you fill out (like rebates) also works remarkably well.
"Best" is such an overused modifier. How can you be sure that would really be the best way?
I'd imagine the freekin' Hand of God coming out of the sky and obliterating AT&T headquarters might spur them to make the change just a wee bit faster.
It disgusts me when people think that the Bill of Rights is there to keep you safe from being prosecuted
The people who wrote the declaration of independance -- mostly the same folks -- made it quite clear that rights exist regardless of any other factor ("endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights").
If you don't agree with the laws you are supposed to abide by you can either try to get them changes or find somewhere else to live.
Actually, the DoI has something to say about that too. That you are supposed to revolt and overthrow the government when it has become corrupt ("governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it").
A man of middle-eastern descent walks home from work and takes a shortcut through the railyard. Now, this is illegal. We all know that. He's doing it because it saves him a 20 minute walk--no excuse, admittedly. A policeman spots him doing this. What would probably happen? The cop would watch what he does and at some point during his walk home, would pull over, pin him to the ground, and fire seven bullets in the back of his head
The trick, and why you don't see it generally, is to construct self-policing schemes in such a way that they don't enable unscrupulous players to use them as tools of grief.
Because no one ever gets scammed on ebay...
Just saying it doesn't entirely work. I don't know the answer either, though.
That's why all pay MMORPGS should make the billing address of the credit card they're charging visible when you legend/finger/whois another player. They can even throw in other stats contributed by the community in order to facilitate RL pkills.
Joe Smith the Hobbit Deathmaster
123 Fraud St
New York, New York, 10138
+5% to the Obesity skill
+3% to Yu Gi Oh cards skill
0 points in "Times Laid" stat
Weak against: twinkies, sunlight, chores. Key to back door under the mat.
When is enough enough when it comes to freedom on the Internet?
When technology advances enough for a common person to access it without having to rely on a company. I dunno, beam the information into space and store it as a tachyon field in a quasar. Or something.
The problem is when things that are illegal NOT to do in China are illegal to do in the US. Sure, we have a very selective policy on enforcing our laws on citizens working in other countries. As long as the Google regional president in China isn't availing himself of sex tourism, he should be in the clear.
Look at it this way -- what if Google opened an office in Amsterdam for Google Weed? Promoted it just as heavily as every other service and with the same zeal, and they wouldn't ship to the USA. Think there'd be so many lawmakers insisting they were "just following the local laws?"
It will be very interesting to see what happens during the 2008 Olympics when a ton of Westerners are getting their internet gimped
Who else will be there, really, except reporters and the athletes? I don't anticipate the Jones family in Oaklahoma getting a cornsitter for the farm and heading off to Beijing to see how the East makes flapjacks.
Reporters likely know to tread lightly already, and I'm sure the athletes have to go to some workshop before the whole thing starts titled "Don't do any of these things in country X or you will be killed."
One has to wonder how they decide what is "unauthorized" and what is "authorized", though
The government in China deliberately doesn't specify exactly what is illegal. It's far more effective for ISPs, newspapers, tv producers to overcompensate in censoring themselves knowing that failing to do so will likely lead to their imprisonment or execution.
Ideally, you don't have to. The great thing about an adversarial justice system is that the onus is on the police to prove your items are stolen, not for you to prove they are legit.
Just kidding, that's not really how it works. And if you don't cooperate, they'll just sieze them and destroy your business out of spite.
Thief rings scratch the serial numbers off guns. I really don't think they'll have any qualms about doing so with a game boy.
Unless you're implying that I've missed out on some sort of law that makes owning an electronic device without a serial number equivalent to High Treason.
Finally, just which "cops" is the poster suggesting you call? Because seeing as how this theft occured *in Hong Kong*, I doubt that anyone besides the authorities there even care. Your local deputy, and even the FBI, don't give a shit.
This reminds me of a scene from a Lord of the Rings mud I used to play. It had a law system handled by NPCs for when players have been robbed or killed.
So one day this Hobbit wanders into the headquarters of the Bywater Bounders to make a report. "Ahem, yes..." he begins. "I'd like to report Sauron for murder..."
This is a common fallacy in reports about companies getting robbed. They always state the loss of (units x price), when all they really lost was (units x cost).
Try getting organized effectively with your social networks completely mapped by the Government, and them monitoring any important communication among the members. Combine that with compulsory registration of assault rifles, and a ban on drilling neighborhood militias.
See, their big error this time around is the government outsourcing all of that. Internet and phone wiretaps rely on cooperation from the telecommunications companies. Gun registration relies on cooperation by the factories and retailers. Not to mention these restrictions can legally be helped in circumvention by other nations.
It would be hard to get Big Business to turn, since they profit on opression. But not impossible. What will the AT&T CEO think when a "surgical strike" on some terrorist cell misses and blows up the building where his wife works and child goes to daycare?
I dunno. Those drive-bys at the police stations on recruiting day have proven pretty remarkably effective. Whenever I hear such a story, it's always at least a dozen police killed versus the 2 or 3 guys in the car.
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You can lose alot of function (limbs, paralysis) as still get through life. But if you're blind, you're fucked.
If you don't like it, tough titties.
Paying in cash, not accepting value cards, and lying through your teeth on any papers they have you fill out (like rebates) also works remarkably well.
"Best" is such an overused modifier. How can you be sure that would really be the best way?
I'd imagine the freekin' Hand of God coming out of the sky and obliterating AT&T headquarters might spur them to make the change just a wee bit faster.
well, I just finished writing my letter, so a college temp making $7/hour will definitely be hearing it from me
Fixed.
It disgusts me when people think that the Bill of Rights is there to keep you safe from being prosecuted
The people who wrote the declaration of independance -- mostly the same folks -- made it quite clear that rights exist regardless of any other factor ("endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights").
If you don't agree with the laws you are supposed to abide by you can either try to get them changes or find somewhere else to live.
Actually, the DoI has something to say about that too. That you are supposed to revolt and overthrow the government when it has become corrupt ("governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these Ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it").
Well, then, it's a good thing I can wear a mask or hood in public to counter that. Oh, wait...
A man of middle-eastern descent walks home from work and takes a shortcut through the railyard. Now, this is illegal. We all know that. He's doing it because it saves him a 20 minute walk--no excuse, admittedly. A policeman spots him doing this. What would probably happen? The cop would watch what he does and at some point during his walk home, would pull over, pin him to the ground, and fire seven bullets in the back of his head
Fixed.
I meant to imply that it would be at a point where people do not need to rely on any person or good to communicate with others (IE - telepathy)
I don't get why people would want to do that.
Neither do the other 5,999,999,999 people on the planet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_evil
The trick, and why you don't see it generally, is to construct self-policing schemes in such a way that they don't enable unscrupulous players to use them as tools of grief.
Because no one ever gets scammed on ebay...
Just saying it doesn't entirely work. I don't know the answer either, though.
That's why all pay MMORPGS should make the billing address of the credit card they're charging visible when you legend/finger/whois another player. They can even throw in other stats contributed by the community in order to facilitate RL pkills.
Joe Smith the Hobbit Deathmaster
123 Fraud St
New York, New York, 10138
+5% to the Obesity skill
+3% to Yu Gi Oh cards skill
0 points in "Times Laid" stat
Weak against: twinkies, sunlight, chores. Key to back door under the mat.
When is enough enough when it comes to freedom on the Internet?
When technology advances enough for a common person to access it without having to rely on a company. I dunno, beam the information into space and store it as a tachyon field in a quasar. Or something.
The problem is when things that are illegal NOT to do in China are illegal to do in the US. Sure, we have a very selective policy on enforcing our laws on citizens working in other countries. As long as the Google regional president in China isn't availing himself of sex tourism, he should be in the clear.
Look at it this way -- what if Google opened an office in Amsterdam for Google Weed? Promoted it just as heavily as every other service and with the same zeal, and they wouldn't ship to the USA. Think there'd be so many lawmakers insisting they were "just following the local laws?"
It will be very interesting to see what happens during the 2008 Olympics when a ton of Westerners are getting their internet gimped
Who else will be there, really, except reporters and the athletes? I don't anticipate the Jones family in Oaklahoma getting a cornsitter for the farm and heading off to Beijing to see how the East makes flapjacks.
Reporters likely know to tread lightly already, and I'm sure the athletes have to go to some workshop before the whole thing starts titled "Don't do any of these things in country X or you will be killed."
One has to wonder how they decide what is "unauthorized" and what is "authorized", though
The government in China deliberately doesn't specify exactly what is illegal. It's far more effective for ISPs, newspapers, tv producers to overcompensate in censoring themselves knowing that failing to do so will likely lead to their imprisonment or execution.
Ideally, you don't have to. The great thing about an adversarial justice system is that the onus is on the police to prove your items are stolen, not for you to prove they are legit.
Just kidding, that's not really how it works. And if you don't cooperate, they'll just sieze them and destroy your business out of spite.
Thief rings scratch the serial numbers off guns. I really don't think they'll have any qualms about doing so with a game boy.
Unless you're implying that I've missed out on some sort of law that makes owning an electronic device without a serial number equivalent to High Treason.
Finally, just which "cops" is the poster suggesting you call? Because seeing as how this theft occured *in Hong Kong*, I doubt that anyone besides the authorities there even care. Your local deputy, and even the FBI, don't give a shit.
This reminds me of a scene from a Lord of the Rings mud I used to play. It had a law system handled by NPCs for when players have been robbed or killed.
So one day this Hobbit wanders into the headquarters of the Bywater Bounders to make a report. "Ahem, yes..." he begins. "I'd like to report Sauron for murder..."
This is a common fallacy in reports about companies getting robbed. They always state the loss of (units x price), when all they really lost was (units x cost).
The Enterprise is just a picture? Tell that to the Klingons.
Because they are good at it.
"Well, our anal warts cream isn't coming along very well. It only cures both cancer and aids. Better scrap the batch and start over!"
Deal with it. What happens when replicators are invented? You gonna arrest me for creating "pirated" food instead of making it for free?
Bread and Circuses.
Step 1: They can't get their latte
Step 2: They can't get their coffee
Stpe 3: They can't get clean water
Personal fortitude skyrockets when a society reaches step 3.
Try getting organized effectively with your social networks completely mapped by the Government, and them monitoring any important communication among the members. Combine that with compulsory registration of assault rifles, and a ban on drilling neighborhood militias.
See, their big error this time around is the government outsourcing all of that. Internet and phone wiretaps rely on cooperation from the telecommunications companies. Gun registration relies on cooperation by the factories and retailers. Not to mention these restrictions can legally be helped in circumvention by other nations.
It would be hard to get Big Business to turn, since they profit on opression. But not impossible. What will the AT&T CEO think when a "surgical strike" on some terrorist cell misses and blows up the building where his wife works and child goes to daycare?
I dunno. Those drive-bys at the police stations on recruiting day have proven pretty remarkably effective. Whenever I hear such a story, it's always at least a dozen police killed versus the 2 or 3 guys in the car.