and the environment was poisoned beyond the ability to sustain life,
If you are interested in us getting off the planet then step one is learning how to live in poisoned environments. Getting off the planet is a process and getting off is the last step of the process, learning to live where you want to live comes before living there.
You have to be very careful on these though. For example on EP I notice a LOT of people who think they are the 'creme of the creme' on AP actually ASSUME implied premises when there are none and so they come up with completely wacked out answers to questions, that seem reasonable to others. Unfortunately I also notice that there are a lot of followers on this site as well who look up to these people because they have some sort of charisma and state their answers very arrogantly and confidently- and in doing so they are modeling for others wrong thinking and passing it on without realizing it.
The implication was that somehow we should conflate expenditures on one thing with expenditures of the other
In order to explain how something expensive is cheap you have to compare it to other expensive things. If both are being done by the same government then it is easier to compare.
also
NASA's budget is a constant issue, but anything truly interesting that NASA wants to do that can be done by the air force usually is done by the air force.
At no point did the original poster say that "we can only do one thing at a time", Scentcone did and that was the basis of his entire post. Without the "we can only do one thing at a time" argument his post makes no sense.
So the reason for the moderation isn't that his views are unpopular, it's that he is arguing against an argument that wasn't made.
Here is the original post.
What amazes me is how cheap the entire MSL mission is...
The entire budget was only 4 days in Iraq/Afghanistan, or approx USD$2.5billion.
NASA's entire budget is less than what the US Army spends on air-conditioning in Iraq/Afghanistan ( USD$20 billion ).
False positives indicate that it is not working correctly.
Just because it accomplishes task A, that does not mean it works if tasks B,C,D,E,....etc do not work.
Think about it like an anti-virus program. If your anti-virus removed the virus you would not describe the anti-virus program to be working if it destroyed all of your files along with the virus, even those that were not infected.
The US found going to the moon was a great PR stunt, but not anything worth continuing.
If there was a worthwhile reason to be on the moon we would be on the moon with the Chinese.
Granted there are many reasons to be on the moon, but the technology isn't there yet and there is not much reason to have a manned mission to the moon until the technology is ready.
Yes, with one addition: Samsung had these documents in their hands the entire time, knowing that time was ticking down for them to produce them. They decided not to. They waived any opportunity to raise it
Had Apple prior to this claimed that the F700 was a copy of the iPhone?
They can certainly argue about the allegation being false, as well as ask questions of witnesses, but the specific documents? Those documents are inadmissible unless Apple brings them up
Ok, just so I have this straight.
Apple brought up the charge that the F700 is a copy of the iPhone.
Samsung knows this is not true and has the documentation to prove it.
What you are saying though is that yes, Samsung can claim that Apple is full of shit, but Samsung cannot present evidence of Apple being full of shit unless Apple specifically brings up the evidence of them being full of shit?
The cynic in me can't help but wonder if that's really the plan. She'll rule in favor of Apple, Samsung will appeal, this whole thing will drag on for years... meanwhile the lawyers and judges in the case are making $$$
Problem with that, Samsung can't sell some of their products until this case is won. It is in Samsung's best interest to have this case over and done with as soon as possible.
There is zero business reason to involve Win8, and lots of downsides (such as loss of productivity and new training expenses and never-ending whining from The Old Guard that this newfangled thingy is so unfamiliar.)
Was there a business reason to involve Vista?
Will MS still sell Windows 7 to non-corporate customers after Win8 is released?
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Just about any means I can think of restricting posting by new accounts can be by-passed.
Such as if you require them to wait a day after account creation to post as Fark does then the shills will just pre-make an account a day or two before the story is posted that they are going to shill.
Or if you require them to reply to a post and be replied to before their account can make a first post then they will do so with the multiple accounts that they use.
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AC's are not the problem.
For some reason the shills don't post as AC, I guess they think it gives the post some authenticity to use an account that is very obviously used just to post a few shill comments and then abandoned.
While you can be an anonymous expert if you post as AC.
If you have money and no charisma all you'll do is re-invest the money to make more money in a pointless cycle.
People with charisma blow their money in fun and fantastic ways.
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It is one of a few theories that have been suggested.
As it is, this is the first shill I have noticed in months, for awhile there it was real bad, it was rare that a story did not have a shill post as first post.
so that's what the editors do all day.
The number of snarky comments I could make regarding that.........
Here are a few.
No, I doubt they even do that much.
Yes, it takes them all day to come up with a single shill post.
It's not like they are doing anything else.
I wonder when they will video the process and then interview themselves about it so they can present it as another video based story no one wants to watch.
CowboyNeal
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I've been reading/. since the late 90s and never has having an account been appealing to me.
Although it can be fairly strange seeing replys modded 5 and not knowing what they are actually replying to. This thread for example.
Yea, the standard UI here is about as bad as Windows 8 (look, it's on topic!), but if you create an account you can go back to classic and still post as AC.
Linux has long lost the war on the desktop front, but they have won the server market and doing very well in the mobile market.
I guess a good question is what is going to be the next change for desktop computing? If Linux developers can figure that one out before MS or Apple then Linux may end up with a chance at the desktop market.
The nice thing is, if you don't like it, don't switch.
At home if my computer died I could rebuild it and still use my Windows 7 license key.
At work if my computer died I would be forced to accept an OEM built computer running whatever is the current operating system, which is about to be Windows 8.
I don't want to switch, but if my work computer dies then I may not have a choice.
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I mean really, just look at the posting history of whom I am replying to.
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and the environment was poisoned beyond the ability to sustain life,
If you are interested in us getting off the planet then step one is learning how to live in poisoned environments. Getting off the planet is a process and getting off is the last step of the process, learning to live where you want to live comes before living there.
Have you never read an implied argument?
I looked it up just to be sure, and you'll love the first hit.
http://www.experienceproject.com/question-answer/An-Argument-May-Have-Either-An-Implied-Premise-Or-An-Implied-Conclusion/9798
You have to be very careful on these though. For example on EP I notice a LOT of people who think they are the 'creme of the creme' on AP actually ASSUME implied premises when there are none and so they come up with completely wacked out answers to questions, that seem reasonable to others. Unfortunately I also notice that there are a lot of followers on this site as well who look up to these people because they have some sort of charisma and state their answers very arrogantly and confidently- and in doing so they are modeling for others wrong thinking and passing it on without realizing it.
Have you never read an implied argument?
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
The implication was that somehow we should conflate expenditures on one thing with expenditures of the other
In order to explain how something expensive is cheap you have to compare it to other expensive things. If both are being done by the same government then it is easier to compare.
also
NASA's budget is a constant issue, but anything truly interesting that NASA wants to do that can be done by the air force usually is done by the air force.
Most generations of Xeons have sucked at games.
At no point did the original poster say that "we can only do one thing at a time", Scentcone did and that was the basis of his entire post. Without the "we can only do one thing at a time" argument his post makes no sense.
So the reason for the moderation isn't that his views are unpopular, it's that he is arguing against an argument that wasn't made.
Here is the original post.
What amazes me is how cheap the entire MSL mission is...
The entire budget was only 4 days in Iraq/Afghanistan, or approx USD$2.5billion.
NASA's entire budget is less than what the US Army spends on air-conditioning in Iraq/Afghanistan ( USD$20 billion ).
I. Kid. You. Not.
Wasn't stuxnet delivered via thumb drive?
Don't fault that which is proven to work !!
False positives indicate that it is not working correctly.
Just because it accomplishes task A, that does not mean it works if tasks B,C,D,E,....etc do not work.
Think about it like an anti-virus program. If your anti-virus removed the virus you would not describe the anti-virus program to be working if it destroyed all of your files along with the virus, even those that were not infected.
In what ways does the Obama administration not follow the pattern of what you deem socialist?
How about you explain why you think he is a socialist, please provide examples and citations.
Good for them.
The US found going to the moon was a great PR stunt, but not anything worth continuing.
If there was a worthwhile reason to be on the moon we would be on the moon with the Chinese.
Granted there are many reasons to be on the moon, but the technology isn't there yet and there is not much reason to have a manned mission to the moon until the technology is ready.
Nice.
Can you do any work on it, or is it a toy?
Yes, with one addition:
Samsung had these documents in their hands the entire time, knowing that time was ticking down for them to produce them. They decided not to. They waived any opportunity to raise it
Had Apple prior to this claimed that the F700 was a copy of the iPhone?
My mouse moves in a space that is less than a square foot and it allows me to have absolute precision.
My displays at work cover close to three square feet and has horrible precision if I was to use it as a touch compatible surface.
Mouse wins.
Go wave your arms in front of you for 8 hours and then tell me touch input is the future.
Also, having a keyboard is non-replaceable as an input device when actually doing anything more than looking at information.
They can certainly argue about the allegation being false, as well as ask questions of witnesses, but the specific documents? Those documents are inadmissible unless Apple brings them up
Ok, just so I have this straight.
Apple brought up the charge that the F700 is a copy of the iPhone.
Samsung knows this is not true and has the documentation to prove it.
What you are saying though is that yes, Samsung can claim that Apple is full of shit, but Samsung cannot present evidence of Apple being full of shit unless Apple specifically brings up the evidence of them being full of shit?
The cynic in me can't help but wonder if that's really the plan. She'll rule in favor of Apple, Samsung will appeal, this whole thing will drag on for years... meanwhile the lawyers and judges in the case are making $$$
Problem with that, Samsung can't sell some of their products until this case is won. It is in Samsung's best interest to have this case over and done with as soon as possible.
I guess the persons point was that the guy instead of building new and wonderful things decided to instead fix new and wonderful things.
Creation has more impact on society than maintenance.
There is zero business reason to involve Win8, and lots of downsides (such as loss of productivity and new training expenses and never-ending whining from The Old Guard that this newfangled thingy is so unfamiliar.)
Was there a business reason to involve Vista?
Will MS still sell Windows 7 to non-corporate customers after Win8 is released?
Just about any means I can think of restricting posting by new accounts can be by-passed.
Such as if you require them to wait a day after account creation to post as Fark does then the shills will just pre-make an account a day or two before the story is posted that they are going to shill.
Or if you require them to reply to a post and be replied to before their account can make a first post then they will do so with the multiple accounts that they use.
AC's are not the problem.
For some reason the shills don't post as AC, I guess they think it gives the post some authenticity to use an account that is very obviously used just to post a few shill comments and then abandoned.
While you can be an anonymous expert if you post as AC.
I don't believe my IQ should be as high as I test at. Should I be smug, or complain that it doesn't give the correct values?
What good are riches if you have no charisma?
If you have money and no charisma all you'll do is re-invest the money to make more money in a pointless cycle.
People with charisma blow their money in fun and fantastic ways.
It is one of a few theories that have been suggested.
As it is, this is the first shill I have noticed in months, for awhile there it was real bad, it was rare that a story did not have a shill post as first post.
so that's what the editors do all day.
The number of snarky comments I could make regarding that.........
Here are a few.
No, I doubt they even do that much.
Yes, it takes them all day to come up with a single shill post.
It's not like they are doing anything else.
I wonder when they will video the process and then interview themselves about it so they can present it as another video based story no one wants to watch.
CowboyNeal
I've been reading /. since the late 90s and never has having an account been appealing to me.
Although it can be fairly strange seeing replys modded 5 and not knowing what they are actually replying to. This thread for example.
Yea, the standard UI here is about as bad as Windows 8 (look, it's on topic!), but if you create an account you can go back to classic and still post as AC.
Linux has long lost the war on the desktop front, but they have won the server market and doing very well in the mobile market.
I guess a good question is what is going to be the next change for desktop computing? If Linux developers can figure that one out before MS or Apple then Linux may end up with a chance at the desktop market.
The nice thing is, if you don't like it, don't switch.
At home if my computer died I could rebuild it and still use my Windows 7 license key.
At work if my computer died I would be forced to accept an OEM built computer running whatever is the current operating system, which is about to be Windows 8.
I don't want to switch, but if my work computer dies then I may not have a choice.
I mean really, just look at the posting history of whom I am replying to.