I've written some of my best, most maintainable, least "wtf was I doing" when reviewing it a year later code under the influence of marijuana. I guess that's something any ol' idiot can do, though, right?
The determining factor in drunk driving,thc, and cell phone use should be impaired driving
Now this I can agree with. Test me if you see me doing something dumb and use the results to prove that I was under the influence of this or that. Don't pull me over just to test me, though; that bong hit I took last week isn't impairing my driving one bit, but it'll sure as hell show up in a blood screen.
However, there were fewer white brain cells in the brains of the drinkers which implies that alcohol kills white brain cells.
Hmm, seems heavy drinkers should be portrayed the same way. Maybe if you still had some white cells (the "cables", per your article) connecting your gray cells, you'd have caught that.
Scientists have confirmed the long-held suspicion that frequent heavy marijuana use damages the brain's memory and learning capacity.
Key words, "frequent" and "heavy". Alcohol will damage your brain, liver, kidneys, and well, pretty much everything else, if used frequently and heavily. Hell, you can suffer brain damage from drinking too much water, so it's really no surprise that you can suffer the very same from marijuana, or anything else you put in your body.
Maybe, actually, put the beer down and read the first sentence of sources you're forming your arguments from?
Try playing, say, Grand Theft Auto while stoned and see for yourself.
Do it all the time. That and CoD. I suck just as bad at both when stoned as I do when sober. When high, however, I crash a lot less in GTA and die a lot less in CoD. Care to explain? Perhaps there's some difference between being high and being stoned that you're not acknowledging. I don't know about all the stoners out there, but I have a much more enjoyable (and memorable) time when high than I do when stoned, so clearly there's a difference.
Yes, at dosage levels commonly referred to as "being stoned", this is true. Not necessarily so at more common dosage levels. There's a huge difference between driving high and driving stoned. One is less than genius and the other is flat out retarded.
Indeed. I drive with a dash cam and have actual video evidence that my driving is not affected at the level of high I'm comfortable with.
I always try to avoid driving high, but there have been occasions where I was at a friend's house and lost track of time late enough in the night that I'd take a hit or two shortly before we called it a night and I had to get home. I was sure I was driving like shit; I mean, I was pretty high, everything felt slow to me, so I had to be impaired, right?
Well, considering that I drive home from their house on a fairly regular basis, I have many examples of me driving home from there sober, at various times of day and in various levels of traffic. I have 5 examples of me driving home from there high, one including a near accident (haters, keep reading before you comment and sound dumb), that don't look perceptibly different from sober examples in similar traffic at similar times of day.
As for the near accident, I probably wouldn't have noticed the guy running while carrying his girlfriend reverse-piggyback, had I not been a little high at the time. At least, I wouldn't have given the couple a second thought as they ran in front of the restaurant on the corner, turned the corner (there was a crosswalk at the corner, which they did not use), ran about 40ft up the road, then suddenly started to run out in front of me as I was completing my left turn (on a green arrow), before noticing me, coming to an abrupt stop, losing balance, and falling into the road directly in front of me. Sure, I would have seen them, but I also would have thought "there's no way someone would be that stupid", not taken the left side of my lane upon first seeing them, and likely not have been able to swerve around them in time. I might have killed two people that night, had I not been taking extra precautions due to driving high.
Of course, I immediately pulled over to see if they were okay. He was fine, but she got knocked out when he landed on her. He insisted they were both fine and needed no help; but she clearly was not well off, so I ended up calling the cops (this happened literally across the street from the police station, so the response time was quick) to go check on the situation as soon as I got home, about 500ft from where this happened.
I know that anecdote is but one data point that many will consider irrelevant, and my videos are but 5 data points relating to a single test subject, but the results seem to concur with other studies on the subject.
I've been suffering migraine since I was 5, 28 years in total. I've explored every avenue there is; and there are hundreds, if not thousands. Let me ask you, had you identified any triggers for your migraines, like certain scents or chemicals, certain foods, or other external stimuli? Or were they just brought on randomly or by stress? Not to downplay your experience, but if it's the latter and realigning your teeth fixed it, you most likely didn't have migraines in the first place.
All of the prescription treatments are hallucinogens, so my options really have come down to simply deal with it, deal with it while tripping balls, or take a couple Aleve, have a cup of tea, and take a hit or two from my vape. I have to say, out of the three, the last option is the most effective. I've identified my triggers and learned how to prevent a migraine when exposed to them in small quantities or for short periods; so, my migraines are so few and far between anymore that, even after spending $300 on the vape (much easier and more discreet than smoking and edibles are less than ideal with a migraine) last year, my MMJ therapy is only costing my about $20/mo. That monthly cost will go down as I'm able to average the cost of the vaporizer over more and more months; 4 grams of Gemstone lasts me a very long time.
Move on down to the bay area and I can get you hooked up over a weekend. Sure, you get to deal with all the bullshit that comes with living in the states; but, as a fellow migraine sufferer, if I had to pick between going untreated or being an American, well... I was born on the right side of the border for this particular condition.
Clever. I said drive stoned, though, not smoke and drive. I wasn't roadworthy when I posted that, but I took a couple hits off my vape and my migraine has subsided. Wanna race?
As a migraine sufferer who uses marijuana therapeutically, I beg to differ. Marijuana helps me concentrate, at the very least, when I don't have a migraine, and make concentration a thing that is even remotely possible when I do have one. Of course, it's possible (and very easy, if you're just starting out and haven't worked out your dosage) to smoke yourself stupid; and only a retard would operate heavy machinery in that state. Actually... without pot, my migraines make me dumber than pot ever did when I was using it recreationally; and I smoked myself stupid more times than I can count back then.
I avoid driving with a migraine (impossible if one comes on while driving) and I've never driven stoned. Both scenarios are equally scary in my head, but (and I know this is anecdotal and likely meaningless to you, but here it goes anyway) I feel like I'd drive better stoned than under the influence of an untreated migraine. If I were in a scenario where my options were drive with a migraine or drive stoned, well, my answer would be "pass me the bong, motherfucker".
And there's the "at least one more of the over 7 billion people on the planet" I mentioned in my first post. Thank you for chiming in, jsh1972, I believe that's game, set, and match.
And then there was me, the at least one person who actually read it. And you. You took at least enough interest in it to read enough of it to attempt to debunk my post. Hey, now we're back up to a minimum of four.
Someone cared enough to post the source, with a writeup about their experience with it, someone cared enough to submit it, someone cared enough to approve it, at the very least I cared enough to read it and even browse the source a bit. At least one more of the over 7 billion people on the planet will probably care, as well.
I see, you assumed that since I said something bad about your pet party that I must be a member of the opposition and, therefore, would be sucked in by your oh so witty retort, right? No, both sides suck dick equally. Nothing false about that equivalence.
noun: adversary; plural noun: adversaries
1. one's opponent in a contest, conflict, or dispute.
For reference, the US court system is said to be an adversarial system, with argumentative procedure drawing strongly from the Oxford debate format; it is also the debate format I see most often (very loosely) used here. It is a term used in debate, which is what we're doing here, so yes, you are my adversary and no, it's not my fault you thought the word had a much stronger meaning than it does.
Please explain how an example of a well-established (by your own admission, over 40 years of history) practical and economical use of solar cells is a bad counter for the following:
Yea, at this rate of efficiency gains it'll only be ANOTHER 30 years until they're economical.
The claim above, which is what I was replying to, is that solar cells still won't be economical for another 30 years. My response illustrates that they've already been economical for at least 40. So... how is it a bad example?
Did I call Dahamma out for relying on a strawman argument? Yes, but only after calling the argument what it was, a strawman. After declaring the argument false based on its own merits, I had removed any legitimate claim that I had made any ad hominem argument, even in the face of calling my adversary out on their argumentative strategy. However, since they are very clearly misusing the term themselves (and it is equally clear what they were hinting at with their use of the term), it is safe to assume they would understand my similar use of the term.
I was using the term the way Dahamma had used it (e.g. the way they would understand it). Correct or not, that's effective communication and I'm sure it got my point across to my adversary, which was my intent.
Thank you for educating my adversary, though, so they don't make the same error next time. So many people fail to see the value in being able to properly debate a given topic...
Huh, well now, that's strange, I could've sworn the post in which I originally mentioned solar calculators was in response to a post claiming we were still 30 years off from seeing any economical use of solar cells. Any currently viable, practical, economical use of solar cells is a valid counter to that, so you're right, the straw man I accused you of building was just me being nice and not calling your argumentum ad hominem when you insinuated that I'd make such an argument without adequate research.
why, your average accountant might care... they're touch-typing their work into their adding machine (or cheap $5 calculator, if that's what's available at their client's office during an audit or consultation), without looking, which is something you just can't do on a phone...
It's impossible to research the infinite number of strawmen, which is why people like you rely on them so strongly.
To be fair, both sides do it. Panicked people will do what the fuck ever you tell them they should do to "solve their problem", even if they don't actually have a problem to begin with.
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I've written some of my best, most maintainable, least "wtf was I doing" when reviewing it a year later code under the influence of marijuana. I guess that's something any ol' idiot can do, though, right?
The determining factor in drunk driving ,thc, and cell phone use should be impaired driving
Now this I can agree with. Test me if you see me doing something dumb and use the results to prove that I was under the influence of this or that. Don't pull me over just to test me, though; that bong hit I took last week isn't impairing my driving one bit, but it'll sure as hell show up in a blood screen.
However, there were fewer white brain cells in the brains of the drinkers which implies that alcohol kills white brain cells.
Hmm, seems heavy drinkers should be portrayed the same way. Maybe if you still had some white cells (the "cables", per your article) connecting your gray cells, you'd have caught that.
Scientists have confirmed the long-held suspicion that frequent heavy marijuana use damages the brain's memory and learning capacity.
Key words, "frequent" and "heavy". Alcohol will damage your brain, liver, kidneys, and well, pretty much everything else, if used frequently and heavily. Hell, you can suffer brain damage from drinking too much water, so it's really no surprise that you can suffer the very same from marijuana, or anything else you put in your body.
Maybe, actually, put the beer down and read the first sentence of sources you're forming your arguments from?
Does threat of punishment stop drunks? If the masses want to equate pot and booze, they must be able to do so on all levels.
Try playing, say, Grand Theft Auto while stoned and see for yourself.
Do it all the time. That and CoD. I suck just as bad at both when stoned as I do when sober. When high, however, I crash a lot less in GTA and die a lot less in CoD. Care to explain? Perhaps there's some difference between being high and being stoned that you're not acknowledging. I don't know about all the stoners out there, but I have a much more enjoyable (and memorable) time when high than I do when stoned, so clearly there's a difference.
Your "insight" fails to recognize the difference between being high and being stoned.
Yes, at dosage levels commonly referred to as "being stoned", this is true. Not necessarily so at more common dosage levels. There's a huge difference between driving high and driving stoned. One is less than genius and the other is flat out retarded.
Indeed. I drive with a dash cam and have actual video evidence that my driving is not affected at the level of high I'm comfortable with.
I always try to avoid driving high, but there have been occasions where I was at a friend's house and lost track of time late enough in the night that I'd take a hit or two shortly before we called it a night and I had to get home. I was sure I was driving like shit; I mean, I was pretty high, everything felt slow to me, so I had to be impaired, right?
Well, considering that I drive home from their house on a fairly regular basis, I have many examples of me driving home from there sober, at various times of day and in various levels of traffic. I have 5 examples of me driving home from there high, one including a near accident (haters, keep reading before you comment and sound dumb), that don't look perceptibly different from sober examples in similar traffic at similar times of day.
As for the near accident, I probably wouldn't have noticed the guy running while carrying his girlfriend reverse-piggyback, had I not been a little high at the time. At least, I wouldn't have given the couple a second thought as they ran in front of the restaurant on the corner, turned the corner (there was a crosswalk at the corner, which they did not use), ran about 40ft up the road, then suddenly started to run out in front of me as I was completing my left turn (on a green arrow), before noticing me, coming to an abrupt stop, losing balance, and falling into the road directly in front of me. Sure, I would have seen them, but I also would have thought "there's no way someone would be that stupid", not taken the left side of my lane upon first seeing them, and likely not have been able to swerve around them in time. I might have killed two people that night, had I not been taking extra precautions due to driving high.
Of course, I immediately pulled over to see if they were okay. He was fine, but she got knocked out when he landed on her. He insisted they were both fine and needed no help; but she clearly was not well off, so I ended up calling the cops (this happened literally across the street from the police station, so the response time was quick) to go check on the situation as soon as I got home, about 500ft from where this happened.
I know that anecdote is but one data point that many will consider irrelevant, and my videos are but 5 data points relating to a single test subject, but the results seem to concur with other studies on the subject.
I've been suffering migraine since I was 5, 28 years in total. I've explored every avenue there is; and there are hundreds, if not thousands. Let me ask you, had you identified any triggers for your migraines, like certain scents or chemicals, certain foods, or other external stimuli? Or were they just brought on randomly or by stress? Not to downplay your experience, but if it's the latter and realigning your teeth fixed it, you most likely didn't have migraines in the first place.
All of the prescription treatments are hallucinogens, so my options really have come down to simply deal with it, deal with it while tripping balls, or take a couple Aleve, have a cup of tea, and take a hit or two from my vape. I have to say, out of the three, the last option is the most effective. I've identified my triggers and learned how to prevent a migraine when exposed to them in small quantities or for short periods; so, my migraines are so few and far between anymore that, even after spending $300 on the vape (much easier and more discreet than smoking and edibles are less than ideal with a migraine) last year, my MMJ therapy is only costing my about $20/mo. That monthly cost will go down as I'm able to average the cost of the vaporizer over more and more months; 4 grams of Gemstone lasts me a very long time.
No it does not help you concentrate. It does, however, remove/reduce an impediment to your concentration.
And that helps. A lot. Your post is splitting hairs in the most trollish way possible.
Move on down to the bay area and I can get you hooked up over a weekend. Sure, you get to deal with all the bullshit that comes with living in the states; but, as a fellow migraine sufferer, if I had to pick between going untreated or being an American, well... I was born on the right side of the border for this particular condition.
Clever. I said drive stoned, though, not smoke and drive. I wasn't roadworthy when I posted that, but I took a couple hits off my vape and my migraine has subsided. Wanna race?
As a migraine sufferer who uses marijuana therapeutically, I beg to differ. Marijuana helps me concentrate, at the very least, when I don't have a migraine, and make concentration a thing that is even remotely possible when I do have one. Of course, it's possible (and very easy, if you're just starting out and haven't worked out your dosage) to smoke yourself stupid; and only a retard would operate heavy machinery in that state. Actually... without pot, my migraines make me dumber than pot ever did when I was using it recreationally; and I smoked myself stupid more times than I can count back then.
I avoid driving with a migraine (impossible if one comes on while driving) and I've never driven stoned. Both scenarios are equally scary in my head, but (and I know this is anecdotal and likely meaningless to you, but here it goes anyway) I feel like I'd drive better stoned than under the influence of an untreated migraine. If I were in a scenario where my options were drive with a migraine or drive stoned, well, my answer would be "pass me the bong, motherfucker".
And there's the "at least one more of the over 7 billion people on the planet" I mentioned in my first post. Thank you for chiming in, jsh1972, I believe that's game, set, and match.
And then there was me, the at least one person who actually read it. And you. You took at least enough interest in it to read enough of it to attempt to debunk my post. Hey, now we're back up to a minimum of four.
Someone cared enough to post the source, with a writeup about their experience with it, someone cared enough to submit it, someone cared enough to approve it, at the very least I cared enough to read it and even browse the source a bit. At least one more of the over 7 billion people on the planet will probably care, as well.
I see, you assumed that since I said something bad about your pet party that I must be a member of the opposition and, therefore, would be sucked in by your oh so witty retort, right? No, both sides suck dick equally. Nothing false about that equivalence.
Keep deluding yourself thinking that, though.
adversary
noun: adversary; plural noun: adversaries
1. one's opponent in a contest, conflict, or dispute.
For reference, the US court system is said to be an adversarial system, with argumentative procedure drawing strongly from the Oxford debate format; it is also the debate format I see most often (very loosely) used here. It is a term used in debate, which is what we're doing here, so yes, you are my adversary and no, it's not my fault you thought the word had a much stronger meaning than it does.
Please explain how an example of a well-established (by your own admission, over 40 years of history) practical and economical use of solar cells is a bad counter for the following:
Yea, at this rate of efficiency gains it'll only be ANOTHER 30 years until they're economical.
The claim above, which is what I was replying to, is that solar cells still won't be economical for another 30 years. My response illustrates that they've already been economical for at least 40. So... how is it a bad example?
Did I call Dahamma out for relying on a strawman argument? Yes, but only after calling the argument what it was, a strawman. After declaring the argument false based on its own merits, I had removed any legitimate claim that I had made any ad hominem argument, even in the face of calling my adversary out on their argumentative strategy. However, since they are very clearly misusing the term themselves (and it is equally clear what they were hinting at with their use of the term), it is safe to assume they would understand my similar use of the term.
I was using the term the way Dahamma had used it (e.g. the way they would understand it). Correct or not, that's effective communication and I'm sure it got my point across to my adversary, which was my intent.
Thank you for educating my adversary, though, so they don't make the same error next time. So many people fail to see the value in being able to properly debate a given topic...
Huh, well now, that's strange, I could've sworn the post in which I originally mentioned solar calculators was in response to a post claiming we were still 30 years off from seeing any economical use of solar cells. Any currently viable, practical, economical use of solar cells is a valid counter to that, so you're right, the straw man I accused you of building was just me being nice and not calling your argumentum ad hominem when you insinuated that I'd make such an argument without adequate research.
why, your average accountant might care... they're touch-typing their work into their adding machine (or cheap $5 calculator, if that's what's available at their client's office during an audit or consultation), without looking, which is something you just can't do on a phone...
It's impossible to research the infinite number of strawmen, which is why people like you rely on them so strongly.
So, then, where can I purchase one of your 90% or better efficiency solar cells?
To be fair, both sides do it. Panicked people will do what the fuck ever you tell them they should do to "solve their problem", even if they don't actually have a problem to begin with.
Color me ignorant, but I'm not quite sure what you're hinting at...