He may well be saying "If I don't think about this, no one will", but he he saying it in a very different context than you imply. He's not saying "It's good that I thought of this, because nobody else would have -- I'll stop what I'm doing now"; instead, he's saying "Nobody else is going to think of this, so I can forget I just did, too, and forge ahead."
Given Facebook's history, you'd be willfully ignorant to believe otherwise.
Back to my point, though, which had nothing to do with Zuckerberg "being mean to me", because I really could care less -- I have a Facebook account, after all.
I said:
You think that's the kind of person who would have hit the brakes if he realized what he was doing was manipulative and damaging?
You pointed out that he clearly suspected it was manipulative and damaging:
The thought behind it is ambivalence and worry about the social changes he's instigated
Yet he didn't hit the brakes, ergo my point was proven, you just missed it.
Pretty much spot on. I mean, seriously, Zuckerberg literally called all of his users "dumb fucks" early on in Facebook's life. You think that's the kind of person who would have hit the brakes if he realized what he was doing was manipulative and damaging? I certainly don't and I'm fairly certain he knew it was manipulative and damaging, even if he didn't know the extent of it.
Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask.
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
Of course, that means that pixels of color (other than black, of course) have varying degrees of power, depending on how light or dark they are. Yellow pixels have the most power, next th white, which is fine by me since they're, on average, the prettiest.
Well, it's not like they're hitting the site, seeing it not work, and leaving -- they're not hitting the site fron Android in the first place.
I'm their developer, not their marketer. If I were their marketer I would feel differently... and they'd have more sales. But that's beside the point because they pay other people to fill that role.
It also comes down to the fact that I know what kind of budget they're working with and I'm already extracting a large portion of that, having recently hired another employee just to handle their overflow projects. There are bigger fish to fry than platforms outside their target market; fish which actually affect their sales.
If I were starved for work or they had budget to pay for me to hire yet another developer, Chrome on Android would get bumped a few notches higher on the priority list. Neither of those are the case and I would be doing them a disservice to put it ahead of things they actually need.
I've been doing this work for nearly two decades and have left a trail of nothing but happy customers, but thanks for telling me how to run my business, I must have been doing something wrong this whole time.
Did you know, Android users are also allowed to own Apple hardware?
Indeed, as an Android user, I own a fair bit of Apple hardware. Did you know there have been precisely 5 visits to their site by an Android Chrome user in the past 3 years? All of them from me. I did mentione that in a previous post, though I didn't give exact numbers.
Those numbers come from Apache logs, not some off-site analytics service that might not have data on every page hit.
It helps to know your market. I know mine very well.
I stated that in the part of the longer post you declined to read
Actually, you stated it in the post immediately above the one you just replied to.;)
If you're done here because you think you've caught me in a lie, you should perhaps reconsider. If there's another reason, well, happy trails to you, as well.
They have no current interest in Android and no products to sell to Android users. They also have a very vocal userbase who reports even the tiniest of issues with the site; 0 reports of any issues browsing the site on Android.
Of course, that might have something to do with the fact that the only time I see an Android UA string in the logs is when I've hit their site from my phone to test something.
It would be downright idiotic to spend money supporting a platform their userbase doesn't use.
In a year or two, when they start developing a version of their product for Android, that will change. By then, a new major version will have been released and, with that, a complete overhaul of their site. By the time Android matters to them, they'll have paid me to deal with it.
I guess it depends how long the list is. That's a viable option for moving an item up or down a handful of positions; much less so if you need to move an item from the top to the bottom of a list of hundreds.
My dominance score is 51, yes. However, that's only a very small part of the picture. A proper DISC profile is more than just the scores. Here's an excerpt from mine:
You are responsive to challenges in a practical, realistic and enthusiastic manner. You are a fact orientated person capable of providing help based on solid information. You are assertive, self-sufficient and individualistic. People are likely to perceive you as being rational and creative at the same time.
That first bit there about being responsive to challenges, that's versatility my friend. I'm also no stranger to empathy, nor to the fact that there are multiple personality types. Some part of me believes that you already suspected as much, though.
You should just admit that all you're interested in is being right.
Indeed, I am. That's why I state my position, then listen to the positions of others, evaluate the facts and, when I'm shown that I was wrong, learn from it so I can be right next time.
Indeed, this likely affects one of my clients' sites but, as they develop Mac, iOS, and Windows software, they don't care enough to even approve testing in Chrome on Android, let alone any fixes. And, so, it shall remain broken until they do. Which they won't.
What's more usable:
- A UI where, in order to move items in a list, you must click an up/down arrow and wait for the page to reload with the moved item in its new position
or
- A UI that lets you reorder a list by dragging the items where you want them?
Unlike most people (I've done market research on this very topic), you must not think the second option is more usable, because that's what Google broke.
If I knew, I wouldn't continually be trying to improve myself. You seem to have struck just the right balance of trolling and entertaining to keep me engaged, so I'd say you haven't done too bad for yourself, despite your issues. That said, on the off chance that you're not trolling or, rather, to further feed you, perhaps the perpetual quest to become a better person is the best one can hope for. In your case, perhaps your goal should be to become a better troll; I know you think you've got me all worked up and steaming mad over here or whatever, but the reality is that I'm laughing at you as I write this. I've got enough frustration and annoyance in my life; if you were part of that, I wouldn't have engaged.
I dare say the ideal example of a human being would not have engaged you in the first place. Perhaps my ability to identify and admit my flaws does make me a better person?
You seem to be the only one here making that claim. But yes, I suppose I'm the one with the problem. Sorry, but no, you're the one going around telling people they have problems; I'm pointing out that, in your specific case -- because you have presented a pattern of doing this -- that you may actually have a problem. Me doing it once is very different from you presenting a pattern, my friend. Of course, I'm not qualified to diagnose, this is not medical advice, blah blah blah and all that, but your therapist, should you choose to see one, might come to a different conclusion about you than the therapist I saw after 3 years of being gaslighted by an abusive ex, who determined after a handful of visits that I have nothing to gain from therapy.
That is to say I don't have a problem and I have the paperwork to prove it. Can you say the same?
To be honest, I could go on like this until comments on this story get locked, and I would really and truly love to (no, seriously, look at my comment history, I would), but I have work to do today.
Once again Apple shows the rest of the industry how to do things properly and as such can charge what ever the fuck the Luke because no one else has a clue.
Thank you for demonstrating how Apple shows the rest of the industry how to do autocorrect properly. Would you like to buy a vowel?
They also sent the new shiny to everyone who wanted one and had one of the bricked devices.
So Samsung spends $307 BOM cost and the device sells for $720, i.e. they make about $413.
Shipping and retail markup are BOM items, now?
as opposed to the company spying on users
If the recordings never left the phone, the company wasn't spying.
Given Facebook's history, you'd be willfully ignorant to believe otherwise.
Back to my point, though, which had nothing to do with Zuckerberg "being mean to me", because I really could care less -- I have a Facebook account, after all.
I said:
You think that's the kind of person who would have hit the brakes if he realized what he was doing was manipulative and damaging?
You pointed out that he clearly suspected it was manipulative and damaging:
The thought behind it is ambivalence and worry about the social changes he's instigated
Yet he didn't hit the brakes, ergo my point was proven, you just missed it.
Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
Zuck: Just ask.
Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
[Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
Zuck: People just submitted it.
Zuck: I don't know why.
Zuck: They "trust me"
Zuck: Dumb fucks
Of course, that means that pixels of color (other than black, of course) have varying degrees of power, depending on how light or dark they are. Yellow pixels have the most power, next th white, which is fine by me since they're, on average, the prettiest.
Well, it's not like they're hitting the site, seeing it not work, and leaving -- they're not hitting the site fron Android in the first place.
I'm their developer, not their marketer. If I were their marketer I would feel differently... and they'd have more sales. But that's beside the point because they pay other people to fill that role.
It also comes down to the fact that I know what kind of budget they're working with and I'm already extracting a large portion of that, having recently hired another employee just to handle their overflow projects. There are bigger fish to fry than platforms outside their target market; fish which actually affect their sales.
If I were starved for work or they had budget to pay for me to hire yet another developer, Chrome on Android would get bumped a few notches higher on the priority list. Neither of those are the case and I would be doing them a disservice to put it ahead of things they actually need.
I've been doing this work for nearly two decades and have left a trail of nothing but happy customers, but thanks for telling me how to run my business, I must have been doing something wrong this whole time.
Did you know, Android users are also allowed to own Apple hardware?
Indeed, as an Android user, I own a fair bit of Apple hardware. Did you know there have been precisely 5 visits to their site by an Android Chrome user in the past 3 years? All of them from me. I did mentione that in a previous post, though I didn't give exact numbers.
Those numbers come from Apache logs, not some off-site analytics service that might not have data on every page hit.
It helps to know your market. I know mine very well.
I stated that in the part of the longer post you declined to read
Actually, you stated it in the post immediately above the one you just replied to. ;)
If you're done here because you think you've caught me in a lie, you should perhaps reconsider. If there's another reason, well, happy trails to you, as well.
They. Sell. Software. For. Mac. And. iOS.
Their Windows offering is a recent development.
They have no current interest in Android and no products to sell to Android users. They also have a very vocal userbase who reports even the tiniest of issues with the site; 0 reports of any issues browsing the site on Android.
Of course, that might have something to do with the fact that the only time I see an Android UA string in the logs is when I've hit their site from my phone to test something.
It would be downright idiotic to spend money supporting a platform their userbase doesn't use.
In a year or two, when they start developing a version of their product for Android, that will change. By then, a new major version will have been released and, with that, a complete overhaul of their site. By the time Android matters to them, they'll have paid me to deal with it.
I advise them quite well, thank you.
And they don't target Android. You must have missed that.
I guess it depends how long the list is. That's a viable option for moving an item up or down a handful of positions; much less so if you need to move an item from the top to the bottom of a list of hundreds.
You are responsive to challenges in a practical, realistic and enthusiastic manner. You are a fact orientated person capable of providing help based on solid information. You are assertive, self-sufficient and individualistic. People are likely to perceive you as being rational and creative at the same time.
That first bit there about being responsive to challenges, that's versatility my friend. I'm also no stranger to empathy, nor to the fact that there are multiple personality types. Some part of me believes that you already suspected as much, though.
You should just admit that all you're interested in is being right.
Indeed, I am. That's why I state my position, then listen to the positions of others, evaluate the facts and, when I'm shown that I was wrong, learn from it so I can be right next time.
I didn't read the rest of your post.
Indeed, this likely affects one of my clients' sites but, as they develop Mac, iOS, and Windows software, they don't care enough to even approve testing in Chrome on Android, let alone any fixes. And, so, it shall remain broken until they do. Which they won't.
This is going to hurt Chrome more than anything.
What's more usable:
- A UI where, in order to move items in a list, you must click an up/down arrow and wait for the page to reload with the moved item in its new position
or
- A UI that lets you reorder a list by dragging the items where you want them?
Unlike most people (I've done market research on this very topic), you must not think the second option is more usable, because that's what Google broke.
Upon who did I pass judgment? I merely pointed out a pattern, with references. You're continuing the pattern, thereby further supporting my position.
If I knew, I wouldn't continually be trying to improve myself. You seem to have struck just the right balance of trolling and entertaining to keep me engaged, so I'd say you haven't done too bad for yourself, despite your issues. That said, on the off chance that you're not trolling or, rather, to further feed you, perhaps the perpetual quest to become a better person is the best one can hope for. In your case, perhaps your goal should be to become a better troll; I know you think you've got me all worked up and steaming mad over here or whatever, but the reality is that I'm laughing at you as I write this. I've got enough frustration and annoyance in my life; if you were part of that, I wouldn't have engaged.
If that color was black, it would look brighter. But, since my phone has an OLED display, my battery would suffer!!
I dare say the ideal example of a human being would not have engaged you in the first place. Perhaps my ability to identify and admit my flaws does make me a better person?
You seem to be the only one here making that claim. But yes, I suppose I'm the one with the problem. Sorry, but no, you're the one going around telling people they have problems; I'm pointing out that, in your specific case -- because you have presented a pattern of doing this -- that you may actually have a problem. Me doing it once is very different from you presenting a pattern, my friend. Of course, I'm not qualified to diagnose, this is not medical advice, blah blah blah and all that, but your therapist, should you choose to see one, might come to a different conclusion about you than the therapist I saw after 3 years of being gaslighted by an abusive ex, who determined after a handful of visits that I have nothing to gain from therapy.
That is to say I don't have a problem and I have the paperwork to prove it. Can you say the same?
Oh, I doubt I would fire myself, but thank you for the concern.
To be honest, I could go on like this until comments on this story get locked, and I would really and truly love to (no, seriously, look at my comment history, I would), but I have work to do today.
So then, what you're saying is black pixels don't matter?
Once again Apple shows the rest of the industry how to do things properly and as such can charge what ever the fuck the Luke because no one else has a clue.
Thank you for demonstrating how Apple shows the rest of the industry how to do autocorrect properly. Would you like to buy a vowel?