Darn for Microsoft getting there first and setting the standards
But they didn't get there first. Word Perfect was the "standard" for over a decade, but they pretty well suicided (I don't blame MS for their demise).
I will agree that Excel is the best spreadsheet out there. If you need a spreadsheet, Excel is it. But a word processor? They're pretty much all the same in features and how they're used.
Well, I'm no fan of Apple and own none of their gear (except an old unused G3 someone gave me) but I absolutely HATE Sony. Apple, at least, hasn't deliberately installed malware on its paying customers' computers.
Sony manufactures them??? Well, I just changed my plans. I no longer want one. Only a fool buys from as customer-hostile a company as Sony. The Sony Pis probably have XCP pre-installed and other nastiness.
I'd rather have the flaky Chinese ones, if at all. No Sony ANYTHING for me if I can help it. I want that company to die a horrible death.
If Linux became main stream, it would just get malware as well.
That's true, any OS can be trojaned.
Windows users don't notice malware until they've got 900 different variants installed that do something like change their home page.
Even that doesn't faze them. I don't know how many computers I've seen with Yahoo! as the home page and so many damned toolbars (most of which are redundant) that there's hardly any room on the screen for content. And that's not even considered by most to be "malware" just because a "respectable" company like Yahoo or its affiliates puts it there.
It is a tiny bit harder to trojan a Linux machine (but not much). In Windows all you have to do is click a link and click "ok" a few times. In Linux you either have to add it to your trusted repositories or install it manually.
I'd be a months pay that you've only not been caught in a malware scam by dumb luck and obscurity.
You would win that bet. My PC was infected by Sony's XCP vandalism when my daughter played a CD she bought in the record store she worked in.
Of my 3 computers only one runs Linux, one runs XP and one runs W7. I'm not too worried about any of them (but I do run AV on the Windows boxes).
While some people prefer to live in a world of obscurity (thats not exclusive to Linux fanboys btw, you aren't any more original than goths), its rather silly to call it a blessing. Instead of removing malware you spend your time dicking with things that were solved 20 years ago but everyone thinks they need to reinvent and do differently without ever asking why it should be done differently in the first place.
Actually, that's Windows and was one of the main reasons I went to Linux. Microsoft changes everything around with every "upgrade" and adds few or no real features, while a Linux upgrade usually makes the machine run faster and almost always adds useful features that Windows usually lacks.
When I update Linux, one click and it's done. With Windows it's several clicks and a reboot, then reopen all my apps and docs. When I reboot Linux (I only have it turned on when I'm using it) all the apps and docs that were open when I shut it down are repoened. When I boot Windows I have to enter the password, the Linux box enters it for me (you can choose this on installation or change it in the settings from its version of MS Control Panel).
Microsoft likes hiding things. I had a W7 notebook a few years ago with an annoying "tap to click" "feature", and nowhere in the Control Panel's mouse configuration was there anywhere to shut it off. They'd hidden it in an unlabeled icon on the taskbar that opened more unlabeled icons, one of which shut the "feature" off about ten screens in. It took me two months to find it. When I installed Linux dual-boot on it, it was in the mouse configuration right where you would expect it to be and took less than two minutes.
Windows simply isn't user-friendly (although there are some user unfriendly Linux distros out there; I hate Gnome). Microsoft is McDonalds, Linux is Burger King -- "have it your way."
Linux is also more robust. A flaky power supply will have Windows bluescreening, crashing, freezing, and/or rebooting (often with data loss or corruption), while Linux on the same machine will just slow down a little.
It isn't viruses that make me like Linux, it's the added features, functionality, user-friendliness, and robustness that make it far preferable to Windows.
So why is only one in three of my computers running Linux? Well, the notebook is newish (I've had a coupld stolen) and I've simply not gotten around to installing Linux, and the other is running XP for a single piece of software I need that has no functional equivalent in Linux, an audio editor similar to Audacity that has features I need that Audacity lacks. That and storage is all I use that PC for.
I personally don't give a rat's ass when one corporation shits on another, so I have no quarrel with Apple (even though I own no Apples) or Microsoft (even though I think they write shitty software and OSes), but when a company shits on its paying customers like Sony has time and time again it deserves to die.
XCP OtherOS Clear text internet facing database with customer info
What are these stupid, evil people going to do to their customers next??
Nobody's stopping you, but don't complain when uploading pictures from it to your computer infects it with a trojan, don't complain when they remove features you paid for, and don't complain when your credit card and social security numbers are published in a plain-text internet-facing database.
Photos are digital these days, the camera itself has a computer and built-in software. It ain't your grandpa's Kodak Brownie.
really don't understand why a few people here attack anything to do with Linux. Linux is different, not a threat.
It is a threat. A threat to MS developers, a threat to MS shareholders, a threat to those who earn their living cleaning malware off of folks' computers.
It is well known that THC/CBD use substantially reduces alcohol consumption due to the nausea affect
Whoa, there cowboy, citation needed. In 40 years of smoking pot I've only known one person who got an upset stomach from smoking, and that was only when he was smoking hash. Pot has the opposite effect, it's a better antinausient than dramamine. In fact, the best thing for a hangover is two aspirins, a cup of coffee, and a joint.
And unlike alcohol, marijuana is not addictive. Take a pothead's pot away and it's like taking orange juice away from someone who drinks a glass every morning. Take a coffe drinker's coffee away and he gets irratible and has headaches. Take an alcoholic's or a heroin addict's drug away and withdrawal can be fatal.
I grew up two miles from Monsanto, before the EPA, when you had to roll the wondows up in 100 degree weather when driving past so your lungs wouldn't burn, so I pretty much hate Monsanto.
I had the same opinion of their "roundup ready" seed as you until I looked a little closer. Nobody innocent is being hurt. The case you're referring to (there was only one) was a farmer who knew his neighbor was growing Roundup Ready, and planted his non-GM corn in the next field over. Then he dosed that field with enough roundup to kill any non-GM corn. What didn't die he kept to plant the next season -- he was after FREE roundup ready corn.
Personally, I'd like to see Monsanto die, but in this case it was the farmer who was in the wrong.
How much of the current "growth" is from new births? How much from immigration? Or immigrant births?
I really don't know, but I'd be curious to know the actual numbers.
The US Census bureau has them if you're curious. However, there was a news report not long ago that said births in the US are declining, and the population growth is all from immigration.
Not really, though, if you have to burn a CD. You're left with a whole bunch of space left unused that could be filled with useful stuff.
Well, you could make a multimedia CD that you could play music in your car or install Linux on your Pi. Or you could use one of those CDs that fit in a pocket.
Soon as that child becomes a parent our welfare system kicks in and they're eligible for free cellphone, free money, free health insurance, free food and free housing forever.
Not here in the US, not since 1996. None of what you said, quoted or not, is accurate here, and it hasn't been for a quarter of a century.
Yes, schools need to teach concepts - however, this usually involves the use of actual examples, and why not make those examples relevant to current everyday work life?
Sheesh, Johnny starts high school in 1998 and learns MS Office. Then he goes to college. After graduating with a BS, he goes to work in 2007 and finds... THE RIBBON!
Every "new" version of every MS product is completely unusable to anyone familiar with the previous version. Going from Office 03 to Open Office is far easier than going from Office 2003 to Office 2007.
Going from W7 to KDE is easier than going from W7 to W8.
Look, it's Microsoft. They just move design elements and functions around to where they're harder to find and call it "innovation".
Don't waste your points on spam, that's what that black flag is for. Just click that (you don't need mod points to do so) and an editor will look at it and do the downmodding for you.
In whose workplace? Didn't you see the story yesterday about all the companies using Google docs? And a carpenter need not know any word processor in his workplace at all.
The delicious irony is Google using MS Office after yesterday's story.
Not everybody who smokes dies immediately from smoking either, but that doesn't mean smothing is not lethal.
The difference is, I know a whole lot of people personally (or rather, did) who smoked cigarettes and died of cancer. I know a whole lot of pot smokers, and I've yet to see any negative effects on any of them. I've known a few crazies, but all were nuts long before they ever got high.
By "chips" do you mean the US version (crisps) or the UK version (fries)?
Of course he does, you silly Brit! "Fries" are French Fries, potatos sliced into rectangles and deep fried. You are the only country in the world to call them "crisps". From wikipedia:
A potato chip (known as a crisp in British English and Hiberno-English; as a chip in American, Australian, New Zealand, Canadian, Singaporean, Hong Kong, South African and Jamaican English, and as either a chip or wafer in Indian English) is a thin slice of potato that is deep fried or baked until crunchy.
"Crisps", however, may also refer to many different types of savory snack products sold in the United Kingdom and Ireland, some made from potato, but may also be made from maize, tapioca or other cereals. An example of these kinds of savory snacks is Monster Munch.
Oh, and calling your car's trunk a "boot" is equally silly.
That's what I love about the British, you guys are SILLY!
The price is 50-60$ including shipping, which is not a lot more than 35$+shipping
Uh, I think your slide rule is bent. 36 is almost half of sixty and it should cost less than five bucks to ship either one. Almost twice as expensive is NOT "not much more".
Wow, flamebait? Looks to me like a mod is a shitty parent, because I saw nothing in that comment that would offend anyone and much that was downright insightful.
Except the Obama part, that must have been it. It's like Apple fans modding down comments that point out a defect in an Apple product (and it goes both ways, too).
Someone should mod him back up. It was mostly a good comment.
Every time we get studies talking about the health risks of marijuana, there are potheads up in arms about the results.
The "results" were "we don't know." Care to mention some of the risks that have been shown by science? Because I've seen absolutely zero. I'm also 60, healthy as a horse, and have been smoking pot for forty years.
It isn't up to me to show you it's safe, it's up to you to show me it isn't. So fare I've seen no evidence of any danger to adults whatever.
no we learned that by pretending to be anti marijuana, we can get federal money to do a report that offers nothing of value.
Not necessarily, the work could have as easily come to a different conclusion. An example is a group that tested the assumed link between marijuana and cancer. The assumption ("theory") was that since all smoke contains carcinogens, marijuana must cause cancer, so they looked at geezer nonsmokers, potsmokers, cigarette smokers, and smokers of both. They fully expected pot smokers to have twice the cancers of nonsmokers, and smokers of both to have twice the cancers of those who smoked only cigarettes.
What they found was that those who smoked both pot and cigs had half the cancers of those who only smoked cigs, and those who smoked only pot had fewer cancers than nonsmokers although the difference was statistically insignifigant.
So the anti-pot web sites changed their text from "marijuana causes cancer" to "marijuana smoke contains carcinogens." Disingenuous bastards, aren't they? If you have to stretch the truth to make your point, your point is not valid.
Unscientific, I know, but most abusers of most substances that I know (and marijuana is very hard for an adult to abuse but alchohol and other drugs are easily abused) are crazy and were crazy long before the first time they got high. We have little to no mental health treatment here in the US, which leads crazies to self-administer pot, heroin, alcohol, crack, you name it. If we had free mental health care the drug "problem" would be DRASTICALLY reduced.
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Darn for Microsoft getting there first and setting the standards
But they didn't get there first. Word Perfect was the "standard" for over a decade, but they pretty well suicided (I don't blame MS for their demise).
I will agree that Excel is the best spreadsheet out there. If you need a spreadsheet, Excel is it. But a word processor? They're pretty much all the same in features and how they're used.
Well, I'm no fan of Apple and own none of their gear (except an old unused G3 someone gave me) but I absolutely HATE Sony. Apple, at least, hasn't deliberately installed malware on its paying customers' computers.
That carpenter is missing out, he could've used office to create business cards, flyers, and labels, keep track of clients, etc
I haven't used Google Docs (and I'm not likely to) but Open/Libre Office will perform those tasks.
Sony manufactures them??? Well, I just changed my plans. I no longer want one. Only a fool buys from as customer-hostile a company as Sony. The Sony Pis probably have XCP pre-installed and other nastiness.
I'd rather have the flaky Chinese ones, if at all. No Sony ANYTHING for me if I can help it. I want that company to die a horrible death.
If Linux became main stream, it would just get malware as well.
That's true, any OS can be trojaned.
Windows users don't notice malware until they've got 900 different variants installed that do something like change their home page.
Even that doesn't faze them. I don't know how many computers I've seen with Yahoo! as the home page and so many damned toolbars (most of which are redundant) that there's hardly any room on the screen for content. And that's not even considered by most to be "malware" just because a "respectable" company like Yahoo or its affiliates puts it there.
It is a tiny bit harder to trojan a Linux machine (but not much). In Windows all you have to do is click a link and click "ok" a few times. In Linux you either have to add it to your trusted repositories or install it manually.
I'd be a months pay that you've only not been caught in a malware scam by dumb luck and obscurity.
You would win that bet. My PC was infected by Sony's XCP vandalism when my daughter played a CD she bought in the record store she worked in.
Of my 3 computers only one runs Linux, one runs XP and one runs W7. I'm not too worried about any of them (but I do run AV on the Windows boxes).
While some people prefer to live in a world of obscurity (thats not exclusive to Linux fanboys btw, you aren't any more original than goths), its rather silly to call it a blessing. Instead of removing malware you spend your time dicking with things that were solved 20 years ago but everyone thinks they need to reinvent and do differently without ever asking why it should be done differently in the first place.
Actually, that's Windows and was one of the main reasons I went to Linux. Microsoft changes everything around with every "upgrade" and adds few or no real features, while a Linux upgrade usually makes the machine run faster and almost always adds useful features that Windows usually lacks.
When I update Linux, one click and it's done. With Windows it's several clicks and a reboot, then reopen all my apps and docs. When I reboot Linux (I only have it turned on when I'm using it) all the apps and docs that were open when I shut it down are repoened. When I boot Windows I have to enter the password, the Linux box enters it for me (you can choose this on installation or change it in the settings from its version of MS Control Panel).
Microsoft likes hiding things. I had a W7 notebook a few years ago with an annoying "tap to click" "feature", and nowhere in the Control Panel's mouse configuration was there anywhere to shut it off. They'd hidden it in an unlabeled icon on the taskbar that opened more unlabeled icons, one of which shut the "feature" off about ten screens in. It took me two months to find it. When I installed Linux dual-boot on it, it was in the mouse configuration right where you would expect it to be and took less than two minutes.
Windows simply isn't user-friendly (although there are some user unfriendly Linux distros out there; I hate Gnome). Microsoft is McDonalds, Linux is Burger King -- "have it your way."
Linux is also more robust. A flaky power supply will have Windows bluescreening, crashing, freezing, and/or rebooting (often with data loss or corruption), while Linux on the same machine will just slow down a little.
It isn't viruses that make me like Linux, it's the added features, functionality, user-friendliness, and robustness that make it far preferable to Windows.
So why is only one in three of my computers running Linux? Well, the notebook is newish (I've had a coupld stolen) and I've simply not gotten around to installing Linux, and the other is running XP for a single piece of software I need that has no functional equivalent in Linux, an audio editor similar to Audacity that has features I need that Audacity lacks. That and storage is all I use that PC for.
I personally don't give a rat's ass when one corporation shits on another, so I have no quarrel with Apple (even though I own no Apples) or Microsoft (even though I think they write shitty software and OSes), but when a company shits on its paying customers like Sony has time and time again it deserves to die.
XCP
OtherOS
Clear text internet facing database with customer info
What are these stupid, evil people going to do to their customers next??
Nobody's stopping you, but don't complain when uploading pictures from it to your computer infects it with a trojan, don't complain when they remove features you paid for, and don't complain when your credit card and social security numbers are published in a plain-text internet-facing database.
Photos are digital these days, the camera itself has a computer and built-in software. It ain't your grandpa's Kodak Brownie.
really don't understand why a few people here attack anything to do with Linux. Linux is different, not a threat.
It is a threat. A threat to MS developers, a threat to MS shareholders, a threat to those who earn their living cleaning malware off of folks' computers.
For the rest of us, though, it's a blessing.
It is well known that THC/CBD use substantially reduces alcohol consumption due to the nausea affect
Whoa, there cowboy, citation needed. In 40 years of smoking pot I've only known one person who got an upset stomach from smoking, and that was only when he was smoking hash. Pot has the opposite effect, it's a better antinausient than dramamine. In fact, the best thing for a hangover is two aspirins, a cup of coffee, and a joint.
And unlike alcohol, marijuana is not addictive. Take a pothead's pot away and it's like taking orange juice away from someone who drinks a glass every morning. Take a coffe drinker's coffee away and he gets irratible and has headaches. Take an alcoholic's or a heroin addict's drug away and withdrawal can be fatal.
I grew up two miles from Monsanto, before the EPA, when you had to roll the wondows up in 100 degree weather when driving past so your lungs wouldn't burn, so I pretty much hate Monsanto.
I had the same opinion of their "roundup ready" seed as you until I looked a little closer. Nobody innocent is being hurt. The case you're referring to (there was only one) was a farmer who knew his neighbor was growing Roundup Ready, and planted his non-GM corn in the next field over. Then he dosed that field with enough roundup to kill any non-GM corn. What didn't die he kept to plant the next season -- he was after FREE roundup ready corn.
Personally, I'd like to see Monsanto die, but in this case it was the farmer who was in the wrong.
How much of the current "growth" is from new births? How much from immigration? Or immigrant births?
I really don't know, but I'd be curious to know the actual numbers.
The US Census bureau has them if you're curious. However, there was a news report not long ago that said births in the US are declining, and the population growth is all from immigration.
Not really, though, if you have to burn a CD. You're left with a whole bunch of space left unused that could be filled with useful stuff.
Well, you could make a multimedia CD that you could play music in your car or install Linux on your Pi. Or you could use one of those CDs that fit in a pocket.
Many of these companies are big manythings. Bayer, for example, not only makes drugs, but also pesticides that directly compete with Monsanto's wares.
Soon as that child becomes a parent our welfare system kicks in and they're eligible for free cellphone, free money, free health insurance, free food and free housing forever.
Not here in the US, not since 1996. None of what you said, quoted or not, is accurate here, and it hasn't been for a quarter of a century.
Yes, schools need to teach concepts - however, this usually involves the use of actual examples, and why not make those examples relevant to current everyday work life?
Sheesh, Johnny starts high school in 1998 and learns MS Office. Then he goes to college. After graduating with a BS, he goes to work in 2007 and finds... THE RIBBON!
Every "new" version of every MS product is completely unusable to anyone familiar with the previous version. Going from Office 03 to Open Office is far easier than going from Office 2003 to Office 2007.
Going from W7 to KDE is easier than going from W7 to W8.
Look, it's Microsoft. They just move design elements and functions around to where they're harder to find and call it "innovation".
Don't waste your points on spam, that's what that black flag is for. Just click that (you don't need mod points to do so) and an editor will look at it and do the downmodding for you.
In whose workplace? Didn't you see the story yesterday about all the companies using Google docs? And a carpenter need not know any word processor in his workplace at all.
The delicious irony is Google using MS Office after yesterday's story.
Not everybody who smokes dies immediately from smoking either, but that doesn't mean smothing is not lethal.
The difference is, I know a whole lot of people personally (or rather, did) who smoked cigarettes and died of cancer. I know a whole lot of pot smokers, and I've yet to see any negative effects on any of them. I've known a few crazies, but all were nuts long before they ever got high.
By "chips" do you mean the US version (crisps) or the UK version (fries)?
Of course he does, you silly Brit! "Fries" are French Fries, potatos sliced into rectangles and deep fried. You are the only country in the world to call them "crisps". From wikipedia:
Oh, and calling your car's trunk a "boot" is equally silly.
That's what I love about the British, you guys are SILLY!
The price is 50-60$ including shipping, which is not a lot more than 35$+shipping
Uh, I think your slide rule is bent. 36 is almost half of sixty and it should cost less than five bucks to ship either one. Almost twice as expensive is NOT "not much more".
Wow, flamebait? Looks to me like a mod is a shitty parent, because I saw nothing in that comment that would offend anyone and much that was downright insightful.
Except the Obama part, that must have been it. It's like Apple fans modding down comments that point out a defect in an Apple product (and it goes both ways, too).
Someone should mod him back up. It was mostly a good comment.
Every time we get studies talking about the health risks of marijuana, there are potheads up in arms about the results.
The "results" were "we don't know." Care to mention some of the risks that have been shown by science? Because I've seen absolutely zero. I'm also 60, healthy as a horse, and have been smoking pot for forty years.
It isn't up to me to show you it's safe, it's up to you to show me it isn't. So fare I've seen no evidence of any danger to adults whatever.
no we learned that by pretending to be anti marijuana, we can get federal money to do a report that offers nothing of value.
Not necessarily, the work could have as easily come to a different conclusion. An example is a group that tested the assumed link between marijuana and cancer. The assumption ("theory") was that since all smoke contains carcinogens, marijuana must cause cancer, so they looked at geezer nonsmokers, potsmokers, cigarette smokers, and smokers of both. They fully expected pot smokers to have twice the cancers of nonsmokers, and smokers of both to have twice the cancers of those who smoked only cigarettes.
What they found was that those who smoked both pot and cigs had half the cancers of those who only smoked cigs, and those who smoked only pot had fewer cancers than nonsmokers although the difference was statistically insignifigant.
So the anti-pot web sites changed their text from "marijuana causes cancer" to "marijuana smoke contains carcinogens." Disingenuous bastards, aren't they? If you have to stretch the truth to make your point, your point is not valid.
Unscientific, I know, but most abusers of most substances that I know (and marijuana is very hard for an adult to abuse but alchohol and other drugs are easily abused) are crazy and were crazy long before the first time they got high. We have little to no mental health treatment here in the US, which leads crazies to self-administer pot, heroin, alcohol, crack, you name it. If we had free mental health care the drug "problem" would be DRASTICALLY reduced.
Well, woosh me bald...
Earth-bound as in "microbes that are on Earth and can't leave". In short, microbes from earth could live on Mars. Not bound FOR earth, bound TO earth.
Hope you get that +5 funny you're going for, but I didn't think the joke was that good.
Google docs is great for a quick and dirty word processing or a collaborative project, but you shouldn't try to write a novel with it.
No, for a novel you need Libre Office... or a pen and paper.