Interesting, so you do consider it theft if they are making money but not if they are doing it altruistically.
Yes. The money he made on the counterfeits is money that would have been spent on legit copies had the counterfeiter not been there, quite unlike a download.
Actually it is long enough, given two facts: you are old enough to have generations younger than yourself, and the selection pressure is huge enough. Evolution is normally slow because the environment changes very little.
But the environment isn't changing for humanity, although culture and technology are changing rapidly. And the environment isn't killing people yet.
In the long term, across generations, only the inheritable component matters.
You and the theorist (who should know better) should realize that that smart people are more likely to reproduce. Nobody finds stupidity attractive.
There weren't any cameras, only cops. I'll bet he's from Chicago. And race does matter to a cop (I'm lucky I'm white).
Obryckaâ(TM)s lawyers contended a code of silence protected former Chicago cop Anthony Abbate from punishment until the damning videotape was made public.
Obrycka contended during the trial that Abbate, other officers and higher-ups tried to cover up and minimize her February 2007 beating as part of an unofficial "code of silence" policy within the department.
The trial in federal court came nearly six years after Abbate attacked Obrycka at Jesse's Short Stop Inn when he went behind the bar.
The eight-woman, three-man jury found that Abbate was part of the conspiracy to cover up the beating and that the Police Department had a widespread code of silence that emboldened Abbate to beat up Obrycka.
The videotape of Abbate pummeling a woman about half his size marked one of the most embarrassing chapters in recent Chicago Police Department history and contributed to the resignation of then-Superintendent Philip Cline.
You might try to argue the "I wouldn't have bought it anyway so there is no loss" argument, but that may well apply to all of this guys customers.
But they did buy it, that's the point. You can't say that with a Pirate Bay download.
Personally I don't think there should be such a thing as intellectual property.
I never heard the term "intellectual property" before the Bono Act, which is what's wrong with copyright -- it lasts way too long. Art is stagnating; it's like science and tech, in that everything new comes from something old. Imagine how technology would stagnate if patents lasted as long as copyrights?
If we remove these laws it will be corporations that lose out, not people.
No, people will lose out, corporations will be strengthened. If I write a book without copyright protection, how many copies could I sell compared to Barnes and Noble or Amazon? In times past a musician couldn't cut a record without a label, because it was hugely expensive. Technology has changed that, and as a result the record companies are in trouble. I know musicians personally who have told RIAA lables to fuck off when they tried to sign them; they don't need them. But if there was no copyright, they would need no contract, just press a few hundred thousand disks they copied from the intependant's disk.
Copyright is to protect authors from publishers. When the US first enacted copyright, they didn't honor British copyrights, so publishers didn't publish books by American authors.
The article is bunk though. First there's no proof that intellect has declined, only speculation. Then there's the silly idea that there are no selective pressures today. There are, but they are working in different areas, and death as an outcome doesn't really matter to evolution unless it is very early, all that matters is reproduction.
Well lucky for me that I use a MAC or LINUX box to VPN/RDC into M$ boxes to get this work done.
Yes, but chances are that Linux box originally had Windows installed, and MS made money off that copy of Windows. As to MS apps and OSes being unuseable, I couldn't agree with you more.
When has government been in the telephone business?
- Electricity
You're ignorant. My power company, CWLP, is run by the city. We have the lowest rates, the best uptime, and the best customer service in the state. Why? Because if the poor suckers a town away get shitty customer service or a lot of outages or high rates, there's not a god damned thing they can do about it. On the other hand, if our service suffers, we get a new Mayor next election.
- Television/Radio Decency Standards
A whole lot of people LIKE those standards.
- Drug enforcement
There should be no such thing, except that the FDA should continue regulating purity of drugs and dosages.
- Energy planning
What energy planning?
- Political News Reporting
Are you on crack, son? The government has nothing to do with political news reporting; FOX and CNN do. And they're NOT government entities!
- Overall News Reporting
Again, lay down the fucking pipe. It's eating your brain.
- Responding to Crises (Katrina, Gulf Oil Spill, Sandy)
Yeah, Bush was the worst President in my six decades, but if you think they did a bad job on the Gulf spill or Sandy, well, again, put the fucking pipe away!
- Respect for Personal Property
I haven't had government not respect my personal propery, but Sony vandalized my computer and it wasn't even a Sony computer.
- Crime Investigation
My house was burglarized last year, the culprit was in jail that night. Have you ever been a crime victim? I thought not.
Who modded this idiot "insightful"? Another drug-addled moron?
The nearest Microsoft retail store is a hundred miles away and I live in a city of 120,000. Epic fail. Who in their right mind would make a 200 mile round trip to see if a new Microsoft product sucked?
To move to a scalability you need vector formats and bitmaps to become the default. Which means you need to rethink all sorts of menu structures and layouts.
Yes, I've seen that forum page before. You have to hack the registry to get it, in Linux it's a choice on installation. Which is odd, seeing how MS fans seem to think that you have to use a command line to do anything in Linux.
I also dislike the fact that vulns go unpatched for far too long.
I'd argue they've excellent at this compared to most anyone else.
Once a month when everyone else releases patches immediately?
So you will need an IQ over 100 and an income over $100k.
Unless you live in an extremely high-rent place like LA or New York, you don't NEED 100k per year. IMO chasing the almighty dollar is just stupid, there are things far more valuable than money.
No, my point was that he was an exceptional thinker. Had he been born at the time of Newton he may have come up with calculus, but he was no smarter than exceptional people of our time.
There's more to gene expression than being eaten by a tiger. Smart people are more desirable mates and their genes are far more likely to be passed along than someone who is mentally deficient.
Gene expression is the key here. You get the genes from your parents. As they say, if your parents were childless chances are you won't have kids either;).
The dumb cave man will have trouble finding a mate and his genes won't survive. That's the cultural part.
15 years for non-violently misappropriating a couple thousand dollars?
He'd already spent a year in prison for the same damned thing. How would another year alter his behavior? I would aggree with you if he was a first time offender, but he wasn't. Hold up a liquor store and you might get off with a couple of years, do it again when you get out and you're looking at a far longer sentence. And robbing a liquor store nets a lot less cash than this guy got.
Second, it's not the fact a really smart guy comes along and tames fire, etc. A great many people can do all those things now.
Yet they are taught that way. If a child had no human interaction, how many would be able to build a fire? That's one thing the separates us from the other species -- social structure and communication. I posit that human evolution has been a cultural thing.
Mate selection has a huge bearing on the evolution of a species as well. Do you really want to date that dumbass? Most people don't. It isn't that the mentally handicapped will be eaten by a tiger rather than the smart cave man, but the dumb cave man won't find a mate. That extends to modern humans.
This guy seems pretty dumb, being an evolutionary biologist and not taking these things into account.
Alcohol wasn't invented, it was discovered. Grape juice will often ferment by itself, first into wine and then into vinegar. Alcohol has been around since before writing was invented. They've found 6000 year old beer recipes in the Egyptian pyramids.
As to stature, I'm pretty sure that the "alcohol stunts your growth" is a myth. What causes short stature is an insufficient food supply, which also affects mental development and IQ.
2. People who download it wouldn't have bought it anyway
That's the crux of the matter. They DID buy it, only from the bootlegger rather than WalMart. The money the bootlegger got belonged to the producers is why it's theft. The bootlegger didn't steal a movie, he stole money in a roundabout way.
Yes, it probably is that experience makes one see how dumb youth are, when of course youth can't see it. As to the movies, though, a 12 year old's brain hasn't fully developed, so of course once one is grown they'll see how childish the movie was.
I RTFA this morning. This isn't Joe Blow getting a few movies from the pirate bay, this is a counterfeiter. Copyright infringement isn't theft, but I'd say this is, as the criminal is getting the money that should have gone to the movies' producers.
Also, the guy was imprisoned for the very same offence before, as well as going to prison for some violent crimes.
This isn't Joe Nerd getting fifteen years for sharing movies, it's Joe Beentoprison making money off of someone else's work.
Actually, taxing exports requires a Constitutional amendment.
Bullshit. You never actually read the Constitution, did you? Where did you get the idea that taxes need a constitutional amendment?
Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
If it suddenly doubled in price, our economy might collapse.
I think "might" isn't a strong enough word. Look at the price of gasoline here in Springfield in 2000 and then right before the economy collapsed: in 2000 I paid $1.05 per gallon. At its height seven years later I was paying $4.50. And that quadrupling of the price was over the course of years. It was what actually caused the Great Recession -- if I spend four dollars on a gallon of gasoline to get to work, that's $4 I don't have for the mortgage.
Look at the Arab Oil embargos in the '70s, the economy took huge hits in '74 and '79 when gasoline prices doubled. We had terrible inflation along with high unemployment for years afterward.
The brightest Greek mind would likely sound like an idiot today if you tried to talk to him. He wouldn't know anything about DNA, quantum mechanics, evolution, economics, astronomy, virology, microbiology, ad nauseum.
You confuse knowledge with intelligence, and stupidity with ignorance. Ignorance means you don't have a clue about quantum mechanics, intelligence means you can learn.
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Interesting, so you do consider it theft if they are making money but not if they are doing it altruistically.
Yes. The money he made on the counterfeits is money that would have been spent on legit copies had the counterfeiter not been there, quite unlike a download.
Actually it is long enough, given two facts: you are old enough to have generations younger than yourself, and the selection pressure is huge enough. Evolution is normally slow because the environment changes very little.
But the environment isn't changing for humanity, although culture and technology are changing rapidly. And the environment isn't killing people yet.
In the long term, across generations, only the inheritable component matters.
You and the theorist (who should know better) should realize that that smart people are more likely to reproduce. Nobody finds stupidity attractive.
There weren't any cameras, only cops. I'll bet he's from Chicago. And race does matter to a cop (I'm lucky I'm white).
You might try to argue the "I wouldn't have bought it anyway so there is no loss" argument, but that may well apply to all of this guys customers.
But they did buy it, that's the point. You can't say that with a Pirate Bay download.
Personally I don't think there should be such a thing as intellectual property.
I never heard the term "intellectual property" before the Bono Act, which is what's wrong with copyright -- it lasts way too long. Art is stagnating; it's like science and tech, in that everything new comes from something old. Imagine how technology would stagnate if patents lasted as long as copyrights?
If we remove these laws it will be corporations that lose out, not people.
No, people will lose out, corporations will be strengthened. If I write a book without copyright protection, how many copies could I sell compared to Barnes and Noble or Amazon? In times past a musician couldn't cut a record without a label, because it was hugely expensive. Technology has changed that, and as a result the record companies are in trouble. I know musicians personally who have told RIAA lables to fuck off when they tried to sign them; they don't need them. But if there was no copyright, they would need no contract, just press a few hundred thousand disks they copied from the intependant's disk.
Copyright is to protect authors from publishers. When the US first enacted copyright, they didn't honor British copyrights, so publishers didn't publish books by American authors.
The article is bunk though. First there's no proof that intellect has declined, only speculation. Then there's the silly idea that there are no selective pressures today. There are, but they are working in different areas, and death as an outcome doesn't really matter to evolution unless it is very early, all that matters is reproduction.
Bingo! Very well said, better than I did.
A Kalahari bushman would have trouble getting across a busy street. If he managed to, he'd likely be robbed and killed.
Well lucky for me that I use a MAC or LINUX box to VPN/RDC into M$ boxes to get this work done.
Yes, but chances are that Linux box originally had Windows installed, and MS made money off that copy of Windows. As to MS apps and OSes being unuseable, I couldn't agree with you more.
- Phones
When has government been in the telephone business?
- Electricity
You're ignorant. My power company, CWLP, is run by the city. We have the lowest rates, the best uptime, and the best customer service in the state. Why? Because if the poor suckers a town away get shitty customer service or a lot of outages or high rates, there's not a god damned thing they can do about it. On the other hand, if our service suffers, we get a new Mayor next election.
- Television/Radio Decency Standards
A whole lot of people LIKE those standards.
- Drug enforcement
There should be no such thing, except that the FDA should continue regulating purity of drugs and dosages.
- Energy planning
What energy planning?
- Political News Reporting
Are you on crack, son? The government has nothing to do with political news reporting; FOX and CNN do. And they're NOT government entities!
- Overall News Reporting
Again, lay down the fucking pipe. It's eating your brain.
- Responding to Crises (Katrina, Gulf Oil Spill, Sandy)
Yeah, Bush was the worst President in my six decades, but if you think they did a bad job on the Gulf spill or Sandy, well, again, put the fucking pipe away!
- Respect for Personal Property
I haven't had government not respect my personal propery, but Sony vandalized my computer and it wasn't even a Sony computer.
- Crime Investigation
My house was burglarized last year, the culprit was in jail that night. Have you ever been a crime victim? I thought not.
Who modded this idiot "insightful"? Another drug-addled moron?
The nearest Microsoft retail store is a hundred miles away and I live in a city of 120,000. Epic fail. Who in their right mind would make a 200 mile round trip to see if a new Microsoft product sucked?
To move to a scalability you need vector formats and bitmaps to become the default. Which means you need to rethink all sorts of menu structures and layouts.
Why?
That's called automatic login.
Yes, I've seen that forum page before. You have to hack the registry to get it, in Linux it's a choice on installation. Which is odd, seeing how MS fans seem to think that you have to use a command line to do anything in Linux.
I also dislike the fact that vulns go unpatched for far too long.
I'd argue they've excellent at this compared to most anyone else.
Once a month when everyone else releases patches immediately?
So you will need an IQ over 100 and an income over $100k.
Unless you live in an extremely high-rent place like LA or New York, you don't NEED 100k per year. IMO chasing the almighty dollar is just stupid, there are things far more valuable than money.
No, my point was that he was an exceptional thinker. Had he been born at the time of Newton he may have come up with calculus, but he was no smarter than exceptional people of our time.
There's more to gene expression than being eaten by a tiger. Smart people are more desirable mates and their genes are far more likely to be passed along than someone who is mentally deficient.
Gene expression is the key here. You get the genes from your parents. As they say, if your parents were childless chances are you won't have kids either ;).
The dumb cave man will have trouble finding a mate and his genes won't survive. That's the cultural part.
15 years for non-violently misappropriating a couple thousand dollars?
He'd already spent a year in prison for the same damned thing. How would another year alter his behavior? I would aggree with you if he was a first time offender, but he wasn't. Hold up a liquor store and you might get off with a couple of years, do it again when you get out and you're looking at a far longer sentence. And robbing a liquor store nets a lot less cash than this guy got.
Second, it's not the fact a really smart guy comes along and tames fire, etc. A great many people can do all those things now.
Yet they are taught that way. If a child had no human interaction, how many would be able to build a fire? That's one thing the separates us from the other species -- social structure and communication. I posit that human evolution has been a cultural thing.
Mate selection has a huge bearing on the evolution of a species as well. Do you really want to date that dumbass? Most people don't. It isn't that the mentally handicapped will be eaten by a tiger rather than the smart cave man, but the dumb cave man won't find a mate. That extends to modern humans.
This guy seems pretty dumb, being an evolutionary biologist and not taking these things into account.
Alcohol wasn't invented, it was discovered. Grape juice will often ferment by itself, first into wine and then into vinegar. Alcohol has been around since before writing was invented. They've found 6000 year old beer recipes in the Egyptian pyramids.
As to stature, I'm pretty sure that the "alcohol stunts your growth" is a myth. What causes short stature is an insufficient food supply, which also affects mental development and IQ.
2. People who download it wouldn't have bought it anyway
That's the crux of the matter. They DID buy it, only from the bootlegger rather than WalMart. The money the bootlegger got belonged to the producers is why it's theft. The bootlegger didn't steal a movie, he stole money in a roundabout way.
Yes, it probably is that experience makes one see how dumb youth are, when of course youth can't see it. As to the movies, though, a 12 year old's brain hasn't fully developed, so of course once one is grown they'll see how childish the movie was.
I RTFA this morning. This isn't Joe Blow getting a few movies from the pirate bay, this is a counterfeiter. Copyright infringement isn't theft, but I'd say this is, as the criminal is getting the money that should have gone to the movies' producers.
Also, the guy was imprisoned for the very same offence before, as well as going to prison for some violent crimes.
This isn't Joe Nerd getting fifteen years for sharing movies, it's Joe Beentoprison making money off of someone else's work.
Actually, taxing exports requires a Constitutional amendment.
Bullshit. You never actually read the Constitution, did you? Where did you get the idea that taxes need a constitutional amendment?
If it suddenly doubled in price, our economy might collapse.
I think "might" isn't a strong enough word. Look at the price of gasoline here in Springfield in 2000 and then right before the economy collapsed: in 2000 I paid $1.05 per gallon. At its height seven years later I was paying $4.50. And that quadrupling of the price was over the course of years. It was what actually caused the Great Recession -- if I spend four dollars on a gallon of gasoline to get to work, that's $4 I don't have for the mortgage.
Look at the Arab Oil embargos in the '70s, the economy took huge hits in '74 and '79 when gasoline prices doubled. We had terrible inflation along with high unemployment for years afterward.
Congrats, funniest thing I've seen all day!
The brightest Greek mind would likely sound like an idiot today if you tried to talk to him. He wouldn't know anything about DNA, quantum mechanics, evolution, economics, astronomy, virology, microbiology, ad nauseum.
You confuse knowledge with intelligence, and stupidity with ignorance. Ignorance means you don't have a clue about quantum mechanics, intelligence means you can learn.
Capitalism is a system of allocating resources, it may in fact be the best one we have. Lets not pretend it is magical.
But it is magical. Not fairy tale magical, but David Copperfield magical -- smoke and mirrors.