Indeed. From TFA: "Mr Robinson said: 'It makes you feel as though you shouldn't have reported it in the first place'."
Never EVER trust the police. Any police. When I was in the USAF stationed at Dover in 1972, I had barracks duty one day and the duty sergent came to me as I was sweeping, held up a hand rolled something and said "what's this?" I replied, well, it's either a cigarette or a joint."
"How do you tell?" I took it, broke it open, and said "It's green. It's a joint."
So the stupid old man asks "what should I do about it?"
I told him to throw it in the dumpster and forget about it. He said "I dunno, maybe I should report it?"
I told him "if you do, all you'll accomplish is sitting around filling paperwork about it for two days."
When I saw him the next day he said "you were right, I should have just thrown it away. Damned assholes treated me like a criminal and I had to fill out paperwork all damned afternoon. Now I'm behind in my real work."
Then you have an incredible problem with reading comprehension and material retention.
And BTW, Mr Dawkinsfollower, last Sunday MY preacher spoke of the work our church is doing in Kenya. "I saw a lot of Catholics, and Methodists, and Baptists, and even Muslims, but I didn't see s single athiest, agnostic, or secular humanist."
There's a sig somewhere around her that says "Satan's greatest triumph was convincing the world he doesn't exist." Good sig.
You know, your anti-religion trolls would go a lot farther on a different messageboard.
Do you require men who rape women to marry them and support them?
You, sir, are an idiot and the wost sort of troll. What the fuck is wrong with you God damned people, anyway? Nobody likes a flaming evamgelist, and your evangelical antitheism is worse than the Jehova's Witnesses. All I have to do to avoid them is not answer the door, you God damned fucktards are all over the internet.
Unlike all theist religions, I have no problem with what anyone believes
You disproved that by your previous statements, retard. Now go play in traffic, boy, we're trying to talk science here.
Indeed; these people are both incredibly greedy and incredibly stupid (remember Valenti's rant agaisnt the VCR?). Unfortunately they're also incredibly rich and politicians are incredibly corrupt.
Why would I take my DVD to a store to have it digitized myself when there are a plethora of programs you can download for free that will do the same thing at no cost? Like the FPer humorously said, "great, pay to watch a movie I already bought."
One of my teachers in school (a Biology teacher at that) in the US when I first moved over here wrote on a review that I am a "Good Christian Boy"
Most likely he was both a Christian, and ignorant of the fact that there are good people who aren't Christians.
The trouble with that is Christ himself said "none are good, except God." Way too many Christians don't bother to read the bibles they thump, let alone obey their savior.
The moral: Don't judge someone by the company they keep. In fact, according to Christ's teachings, your Christian professor sinned by judging you to be a "Good Christian." Christians are not supposed to be judgemental, either judging bad or good.
Now would someone explain to me why religion belongs in this thread? If I were moderating I'd mod everyone in the thread down, including this post. The thread itself is offtopic.
Too late, not only did Paramount patent that, the patent ran out in 2007. However, they still hold copyright to Q. I'm sure you'll be hearing from their lawyers.
You can't perfectly sample any waveform at any frequency, but the more samples per crest, the more accurately the waveform will be reproduced. At CD sampling rates you can indeed reproduce a 300 Hz waveform of any shape very accurately; there are 146 samples in its crest. That's plenty to accurately describe a sawtooth or square wave with subaudible aliasing. Not so at 15kHz with only three samples.
According to the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem, you can perfectly reproduce a sinusoidal waveform (phase and amplitude included), if the frequency components of that waveform are less than half the sampling rate.
Remove the word "perfectly" and that is accurate.
If pop music recording studios are compressing the dynamics to the upper range of the bit level, that doesn't stop a classical recording studio from using the whole 16-bit range.
I didn't say that was the case. I said with pop music it doesn't matter since dynamics don't seem to matter any more in pop music. But if your cannon in the 1812 Overture are at the highest level and the soft flute is 1/100th of that, your flute only has a range of 0 to 500. That's only a few bits.
I don't remember a single thing that I enjoyed learning at school.
If you're talking about pre-college public education, yes. A teacher can take the most interesting subject matter in the world and make it boring as hell. I never enjoyed public school at all. College was way different, my instructors could take "mundane" things and make them fascinating. I really enjoyed college, and plan on taking classes again when I retire in a couple of years. I was grateful that my employer occasionally had me take classes, too. I love learning.
Also, grading is just spoiling all joy, because it's in general completely arbitrary.
Grades let you know how well you have absorbed the information. It's simply feedback.
The only thing that grades show is how good the teacher is !
Well, if you get poor grades you didn't learn, and if you were trying to learn and didn't then yes, the teacher failed.
If you do that you will get aliasing (higher frequencies getting converted to lower frequencies by the sampling process).
You are correct that if you sample above the Nyquist limit you will get audible noise, but are incorrect about what aliasing is. Aliasing is a digital distortion of the analog waveform. Take a small JPG and blow it up and you see a "starstep" effect; that's aliasing. It's the same in sound.
If you sample a 15kHz tone at CD sampling rates you have only three samples per wave crest, and there's no way to discern a square wave from a sine wave from a sawtooth wave; there simply aren't enough samples. That's aliasing. 96 gives you six samples per crest at that sampling rate so the aliasing is less, but it still isn't good enough for someone with great speakers and good ears.
Raise the sample rate to 440k samples per second and there will be no audible aliasing at all. You will still have Nyquist to contend with, but that is easily overcome by filters that simply remove all frequencies above a little lower than the Nyquist rate. Actually, you could do with a sampling rate of 220k and be truly high fidelity; you would not be able to tell the difference between a recording of a guitar or piano from a live performance.
44k was chosen because that's the best that could be done at the time and was deemed "good enough," but nobody would confuse a CD with a live performance. 96k would sound more lifelike, but you could still tell the difference.
How can you accurately render a 15kHz sine, sawtooth, or square wave with only three samples? 15kHz is in the range even most geezers can hear.
I recently remixed a classic recording for sony records.
I simply don't believe it. Even Sony wouldn't hire such an incompetent engineer, one who seems to be completely unaware of a little thing called "harmonics" or the fact that differently shaped waveforms sound different from each other.
In the old days, things like cymbals and brass could really stick out because the encoders and decoders where just not where they are today.
Analog recording doesn't have encoders and decoders.
Though, it's still very serious. At least it generally causes your program to crash rather than spitting out a wrong answer.
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Q: How many Pentium designers does it take to screw in a light bulb? A: 1.99904274017, but that's close enough for non-technical people.
Q: What's another name for the "Intel Inside" sticker they put on Pentiums? A: The warning label.
Q: Why didn't Intel call the Pentium the 586? A: Because they added 486 and 100 on the first Pentium and got 585.999983605.
Q: Did you hear about the new "morning after" pill being developed as a replacement for RU-486??? A: Its called RU-Pentium. It causes the embryo to not divide correctly.
Lawyers have always been hated. From a book written in 100 AD and translated to English in 1400 AD:
Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto him, Master, thus saying thou reproachest us also. And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers. Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them. Truly ye bear witness that ye allow the deeds of your fathers: for they indeed killed them, and ye build their sepulchres. Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute: That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation; From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation. Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.
Poor lawyers... they have it rough. I wouldn't be one.
You kids, I swear... how do mobile platforms make it any easier to make your software available for the masses than uploading it to an internet repository or putting it on BitTorrent? Sheesh, I was sharing software fifteen years ago when I first got on the internet. Before that it wasn't easy, but the internet is the internet, whether you're accessing it on a computer, a phone, or a tablet.
The only thing smartphones changes is it just lets you take the internet with you rather than leaving it at home.
Damn, I hate getting to these threads late, especially when it's a subject that interest me so much. Always some clown with an offtopic first post (modded up of course) followed by an answer to the offtopic post that's modded offtopic when it isn't. I'd have to wade through hundreds of responses to find any real insight or information.
TFA is exactly right and exactly wrong.
If you're listening to modern, popular music, a 16 bit sample is more than sufficient, because popular music has no dynamics. Even when they digitize the old analog music that was engineered to give the best dynamics physics would allow the medium to have (think Boston's first album) they compress the dynamics to make it "loud." I mention Boston because the band's leader was really pissed off at how bad the CD sounded.
But if you're listening to classical, with its very soft passages, loud passages, and especially when there are cannons in the recording, you want as large a dynamic range as you can get -- and with digital sampling, that means as high a bit rate as you can get. The very soft (compared to the loudest) sounds will have the same as an eight bit rate or lower -- the highest crest of these waves will take fewer than eight bits to render.
As to sampling rate, that depends on your output transducers, whether speakers or headphones. If you have a boom-box type setup with a four inch midrange and a subwoofer (most common these days), the sampling rate doesn't matter much because your speakers aren't going to be able to accurately reproduce the 15+kHz tones accurately anyway. However, if you have good (read: expensive) speakers, with each one having say an eighteen inch woofer, two midrange drivers (squawkers) of different sizes, a good tweeeter that will go up to nearly 20 kHz and what they used to call a "supertweeter" with a range of 17-30kHz, those expensive speakers are wasted on a 44k sample rate.
At that sample rate a 15kHz tone has only three samples. With only three samples there's no way to accurately draw the waveform. With three samples there's no way to discern between a sine wave, a square wave, or a sawtooth wave.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled offtopic jokefest.
Me, I'd rather be the one who does what's right because it's right, not because I'm afraid someone is up there keeping score.
And that's exactly how God wants it. After all, if one is a Christian his bad deeds were already paid for. It all comes from love. Love gives, lust wants.
People listen to the raido, chat with passengers, and so on without it being a major crisis
There's something about talking on the phone that gives people temporary ADD. Walk towards three people holding a conversation on a sidewalk and they'll see you. But have one guy yammering on a phone and he'll walk right into you if you don't get out of the moron's way.
Everyone has seen this, what I can't understand is they (you) can't see the consequences of it.
Way things are set up, you could quite legally, totally loose access to the airwaves at any time for a verity of reasons.
I don't think that sentence says what you meant to say. Typos aren't that bad until they completely change what you're trying to communicate.
I hope you're not a programmer, if so it explains all the bugs I see. Those errors got past the compiler and now you have a bug. The program runs, but it doesn't do what you wanted it to do.
To be completely and utterly pedantic, I feel the need to point out that it's not advertised at all. They don't still sell the "unlimited" package, it's a legacy package that people who were subscribers to another carrier were grandfathered in on when they took it over. It was advertised as "unlimited", and for a while it was "unlimited", but this is not a service they still sell.
And to be just as pedantic, the grandfathered-in customers WERE sold unlimited, as advertised. This is like an auto company taking out your radio and AC after you've already signed the contract. It is no different than Sony removing OtherOS. It's fraud. If you contract to sell something, that's what you sell, no substitutions allowed. You can't sell me a five year subscription to the New York Times and change it to Boy's World a year later, which is exactly what AT&T is doing.
If you think I should hire you because of your choice of automobile, especially if you consider your car to be part of your identity rather than the simple transportation it actually is, I'd never hire you. I'd prefer to hire someone not quite so stupid.
Since Martin Michael Lomasney (December 3, 1859 -August 12, 1933) was a Massachusetts politician, fuck him and everything he ever said or wrote, including the drivel you quoted.
I do NOT like politicians, I would not take their advice. EVER. Why not just quote Charles Manson? He's almost as bad as a politician.
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Indeed. From TFA: "Mr Robinson said: 'It makes you feel as though you shouldn't have reported it in the first place'."
Never EVER trust the police. Any police. When I was in the USAF stationed at Dover in 1972, I had barracks duty one day and the duty sergent came to me as I was sweeping, held up a hand rolled something and said "what's this?" I replied, well, it's either a cigarette or a joint."
"How do you tell?" I took it, broke it open, and said "It's green. It's a joint."
So the stupid old man asks "what should I do about it?"
I told him to throw it in the dumpster and forget about it. He said "I dunno, maybe I should report it?"
I told him "if you do, all you'll accomplish is sitting around filling paperwork about it for two days."
When I saw him the next day he said "you were right, I should have just thrown it away. Damned assholes treated me like a criminal and I had to fill out paperwork all damned afternoon. Now I'm behind in my real work."
I've read the bible.
Then you have an incredible problem with reading comprehension and material retention.
And BTW, Mr Dawkinsfollower, last Sunday MY preacher spoke of the work our church is doing in Kenya. "I saw a lot of Catholics, and Methodists, and Baptists, and even Muslims, but I didn't see s single athiest, agnostic, or secular humanist."
There's a sig somewhere around her that says "Satan's greatest triumph was convincing the world he doesn't exist." Good sig.
You know, your anti-religion trolls would go a lot farther on a different messageboard.
Do you require men who rape women to marry them and support them?
You, sir, are an idiot and the wost sort of troll. What the fuck is wrong with you God damned people, anyway? Nobody likes a flaming evamgelist, and your evangelical antitheism is worse than the Jehova's Witnesses. All I have to do to avoid them is not answer the door, you God damned fucktards are all over the internet.
Unlike all theist religions, I have no problem with what anyone believes
You disproved that by your previous statements, retard. Now go play in traffic, boy, we're trying to talk science here.
Indeed; these people are both incredibly greedy and incredibly stupid (remember Valenti's rant agaisnt the VCR?). Unfortunately they're also incredibly rich and politicians are incredibly corrupt.
Why would I take my DVD to a store to have it digitized myself when there are a plethora of programs you can download for free that will do the same thing at no cost? Like the FPer humorously said, "great, pay to watch a movie I already bought."
Sadly I believe you're right about the outcome.
One of my teachers in school (a Biology teacher at that) in the US when I first moved over here wrote on a review that I am a "Good Christian Boy"
Most likely he was both a Christian, and ignorant of the fact that there are good people who aren't Christians.
The trouble with that is Christ himself said "none are good, except God." Way too many Christians don't bother to read the bibles they thump, let alone obey their savior.
The moral: Don't judge someone by the company they keep. In fact, according to Christ's teachings, your Christian professor sinned by judging you to be a "Good Christian." Christians are not supposed to be judgemental, either judging bad or good.
Now would someone explain to me why religion belongs in this thread? If I were moderating I'd mod everyone in the thread down, including this post. The thread itself is offtopic.
About $5,000 to $15,000, Ms. Higgs.
How old are you going to be in 38 years?
She'll be older too. And when you're 60, a 25 year old isn't so hot any more, she's a child.
Too late, not only did Paramount patent that, the patent ran out in 2007. However, they still hold copyright to Q. I'm sure you'll be hearing from their lawyers.
You can't perfectly sample any waveform at any frequency, but the more samples per crest, the more accurately the waveform will be reproduced. At CD sampling rates you can indeed reproduce a 300 Hz waveform of any shape very accurately; there are 146 samples in its crest. That's plenty to accurately describe a sawtooth or square wave with subaudible aliasing. Not so at 15kHz with only three samples.
According to the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem, you can perfectly reproduce a sinusoidal waveform (phase and amplitude included), if the frequency components of that waveform are less than half the sampling rate.
Remove the word "perfectly" and that is accurate.
If pop music recording studios are compressing the dynamics to the upper range of the bit level, that doesn't stop a classical recording studio from using the whole 16-bit range.
I didn't say that was the case. I said with pop music it doesn't matter since dynamics don't seem to matter any more in pop music. But if your cannon in the 1812 Overture are at the highest level and the soft flute is 1/100th of that, your flute only has a range of 0 to 500. That's only a few bits.
I don't remember a single thing that I enjoyed learning at school.
If you're talking about pre-college public education, yes. A teacher can take the most interesting subject matter in the world and make it boring as hell. I never enjoyed public school at all. College was way different, my instructors could take "mundane" things and make them fascinating. I really enjoyed college, and plan on taking classes again when I retire in a couple of years. I was grateful that my employer occasionally had me take classes, too. I love learning.
Also, grading is just spoiling all joy, because it's in general completely arbitrary.
Grades let you know how well you have absorbed the information. It's simply feedback.
The only thing that grades show is how good the teacher is !
Well, if you get poor grades you didn't learn, and if you were trying to learn and didn't then yes, the teacher failed.
If you do that you will get aliasing (higher frequencies getting converted to lower frequencies by the sampling process).
You are correct that if you sample above the Nyquist limit you will get audible noise, but are incorrect about what aliasing is. Aliasing is a digital distortion of the analog waveform. Take a small JPG and blow it up and you see a "starstep" effect; that's aliasing. It's the same in sound.
If you sample a 15kHz tone at CD sampling rates you have only three samples per wave crest, and there's no way to discern a square wave from a sine wave from a sawtooth wave; there simply aren't enough samples. That's aliasing. 96 gives you six samples per crest at that sampling rate so the aliasing is less, but it still isn't good enough for someone with great speakers and good ears.
Raise the sample rate to 440k samples per second and there will be no audible aliasing at all. You will still have Nyquist to contend with, but that is easily overcome by filters that simply remove all frequencies above a little lower than the Nyquist rate. Actually, you could do with a sampling rate of 220k and be truly high fidelity; you would not be able to tell the difference between a recording of a guitar or piano from a live performance.
44k was chosen because that's the best that could be done at the time and was deemed "good enough," but nobody would confuse a CD with a live performance. 96k would sound more lifelike, but you could still tell the difference.
How can you accurately render a 15kHz sine, sawtooth, or square wave with only three samples? 15kHz is in the range even most geezers can hear.
I recently remixed a classic recording for sony records.
I simply don't believe it. Even Sony wouldn't hire such an incompetent engineer, one who seems to be completely unaware of a little thing called "harmonics" or the fact that differently shaped waveforms sound different from each other.
In the old days, things like cymbals and brass could really stick out because the encoders and decoders where just not where they are today.
Analog recording doesn't have encoders and decoders.
Ah, the memories...
Though, it's still very serious. At least it generally causes your program to crash rather than spitting out a wrong answer.
At Intel, Quality is Job 0.99989960954
Q: What is a mad scientist?
A: A researcher with a Pentium
Q: How many Pentium designers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: 1.99904274017, but that's close enough for non-technical people.
Q: What's another name for the "Intel Inside" sticker they put on Pentiums?
A: The warning label.
Q: Why didn't Intel call the Pentium the 586?
A: Because they added 486 and 100 on the first Pentium and got 585.999983605.
Q: Did you hear about the new "morning after" pill being developed as a replacement for RU-486???
A: Its called RU-Pentium. It causes the embryo to not divide correctly.
Lawyers have always been hated. From a book written in 100 AD and translated to English in 1400 AD:
Poor lawyers... they have it rough. I wouldn't be one.
You kids, I swear... how do mobile platforms make it any easier to make your software available for the masses than uploading it to an internet repository or putting it on BitTorrent? Sheesh, I was sharing software fifteen years ago when I first got on the internet. Before that it wasn't easy, but the internet is the internet, whether you're accessing it on a computer, a phone, or a tablet.
The only thing smartphones changes is it just lets you take the internet with you rather than leaving it at home.
Damn, I hate getting to these threads late, especially when it's a subject that interest me so much. Always some clown with an offtopic first post (modded up of course) followed by an answer to the offtopic post that's modded offtopic when it isn't. I'd have to wade through hundreds of responses to find any real insight or information.
TFA is exactly right and exactly wrong.
If you're listening to modern, popular music, a 16 bit sample is more than sufficient, because popular music has no dynamics. Even when they digitize the old analog music that was engineered to give the best dynamics physics would allow the medium to have (think Boston's first album) they compress the dynamics to make it "loud." I mention Boston because the band's leader was really pissed off at how bad the CD sounded.
But if you're listening to classical, with its very soft passages, loud passages, and especially when there are cannons in the recording, you want as large a dynamic range as you can get -- and with digital sampling, that means as high a bit rate as you can get. The very soft (compared to the loudest) sounds will have the same as an eight bit rate or lower -- the highest crest of these waves will take fewer than eight bits to render.
As to sampling rate, that depends on your output transducers, whether speakers or headphones. If you have a boom-box type setup with a four inch midrange and a subwoofer (most common these days), the sampling rate doesn't matter much because your speakers aren't going to be able to accurately reproduce the 15+kHz tones accurately anyway. However, if you have good (read: expensive) speakers, with each one having say an eighteen inch woofer, two midrange drivers (squawkers) of different sizes, a good tweeeter that will go up to nearly 20 kHz and what they used to call a "supertweeter" with a range of 17-30kHz, those expensive speakers are wasted on a 44k sample rate.
At that sample rate a 15kHz tone has only three samples. With only three samples there's no way to accurately draw the waveform. With three samples there's no way to discern between a sine wave, a square wave, or a sawtooth wave.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled offtopic jokefest.
Me, I'd rather be the one who does what's right because it's right, not because I'm afraid someone is up there keeping score.
And that's exactly how God wants it. After all, if one is a Christian his bad deeds were already paid for. It all comes from love. Love gives, lust wants.
People listen to the raido, chat with passengers, and so on without it being a major crisis
There's something about talking on the phone that gives people temporary ADD. Walk towards three people holding a conversation on a sidewalk and they'll see you. But have one guy yammering on a phone and he'll walk right into you if you don't get out of the moron's way.
Everyone has seen this, what I can't understand is they (you) can't see the consequences of it.
No paywall is lame? In my opinion, the opposite is true.
Taxes are high enough already...
Federal taxes are lower than any time since Truman was President.
I agree with that wholeheartedly.
Cops are the modern version of the local sheriff
Yeah, the Sherriff of Nottingham.
I didn't grow up in Watts, though.
That's why you can't see the evil they do. Spend some time in a ghetto bar and your attitude towards cops will change quickly.
Cops didn't write the stupid laws they enforce.
Gassing nonviolent protesters isn't enforcing laws, it's breaking them.
Way things are set up, you could quite legally, totally loose access to the airwaves at any time for a verity of reasons.
I don't think that sentence says what you meant to say. Typos aren't that bad until they completely change what you're trying to communicate.
I hope you're not a programmer, if so it explains all the bugs I see. Those errors got past the compiler and now you have a bug. The program runs, but it doesn't do what you wanted it to do.
To be completely and utterly pedantic, I feel the need to point out that it's not advertised at all. They don't still sell the "unlimited" package, it's a legacy package that people who were subscribers to another carrier were grandfathered in on when they took it over. It was advertised as "unlimited", and for a while it was "unlimited", but this is not a service they still sell.
And to be just as pedantic, the grandfathered-in customers WERE sold unlimited, as advertised. This is like an auto company taking out your radio and AC after you've already signed the contract. It is no different than Sony removing OtherOS. It's fraud. If you contract to sell something, that's what you sell, no substitutions allowed. You can't sell me a five year subscription to the New York Times and change it to Boy's World a year later, which is exactly what AT&T is doing.
If you think I should hire you because of your choice of automobile, especially if you consider your car to be part of your identity rather than the simple transportation it actually is, I'd never hire you. I'd prefer to hire someone not quite so stupid.
Since Martin Michael Lomasney (December 3, 1859 -August 12, 1933) was a Massachusetts politician, fuck him and everything he ever said or wrote, including the drivel you quoted.
I do NOT like politicians, I would not take their advice. EVER. Why not just quote Charles Manson? He's almost as bad as a politician.