Frederick Miller was born in Germany and learned his craft there, bringing the recipe to America, as was and did Adolphus Busch and Adolph Coors. So is Budweiser German, American, or Belgian? Is Coors German, American, or Canadian?
Frederick Edward John Miller (born as "Friedrich Eduard Johannes Müller" November 24, 1824 in Riedlingen, Germany - May 11, 1888) was a brewery owner who founded the Miller Brewing Company at the Plank Road Brewery in 1855.[1] He learned the brewing business in Sigmaringen, Germany.
From the link to Frederick Miller from the link you provided.
Bud Light and Miller Lite are American, but by your logic, Budweiser and Miller High Life are German beers, with their original brewers bringing the recipes for their pilsner (Bud) and pale ale (Miller) to America. And judging from the taste, the recipes for the diet beers aren't that different from the original recipes.
Personally, my favorite beers are Foster's and Bass.
Both Busch and Miller (the men who started those breweries) came to the US from Germany with German recipes. So by your way of thinking, Budweiser and Miller (not Bud Light or Miller Lite) are both German beers.
Springfield, IL. A bar down the street from my house has draft for $.99, one on North Grand has fifty cent drafts on Tuesdays. Mugshots and Felbers have bottles for $1.50 on Wednesdays.
D'Arcy's Pint is one of, if not the, best restaraunt in town; they've been featured on the Food Channel. A pint of Guiness is $3 there. You can get one of the best meals you've ever eaten, including a couple of pints, for under twenty bucks.
It doesn't cost a lot to live here, and there are even cheaper places to live. My dad moved to Poplar Bluff, MO when he retired because the cost of living is lower than here.
I'm richer than someone living in Chicago that earns twice what I do.
You assume that once it becomes legal, demand will increase significantly. This is very fallacious.
You're correct, and the fallacy came about after prohibition when twice as many folks drank as before. The actuality was that the outlawing itself was what fueled the increase, as my grandmother (born in 1903) explained.
Before prohibition, few women drank, and the few who did, did so in private and in secret. The salloon was a man's place that no self-respecting woman would enter.
Prohibition closed the salloons and brought about the speakeasy. It was no longer more OK for men to drink than women, so a sea change in manners came about -- women as well as men went to speakeasies.
As Creedence sang in bootleg, "take a glass of water, make it against the law, see how good the water tastes when you can't have any more." Prohibition fuels use, not legalization.
I never heard of the "glass in the weed" thing before, but hearing about it now it seems clear where it started -- in the ghetto, and is certainly false. Dealers often call high quality dope "glass" these days. Easy to see how this might confuse some into thinking somebody would put glass in weed.
However, back in the '70s people would often take shitweet (not weed with shit in it, weed that wouldn't get you high) and add PCP to make it give you a high. I don't know if this is still done, but I suspect it probably is. Also, there are often other contaminants from carelssness, such as jimson weed*, spider webs, insects, etc, especially in low grade smoke.
However, these days you can tell good weed from the smell of the baggie.
*Jimson weed is a nasty high and will ruin your dope
Before you apply Hanlon's Razor (never assume malice when incompetence explains), apply mine -- never assume incompetence when greedy self-interest explains.
Not just country roads. If you're coming up 6th street in Springfield from I-55 during the day, this is an incredibly scary spot in the daytime. Cars coming from Princeton (right before the viaduct) come out blind -- there's no way to tell if traffic is coming or not from Princeton. I never EVER go past that spot in the right lane. During the day you could slam into someone dumb enough to come out there, and at night -- well, JW's is a bar on the right just past the viaduct and you're liable to have trouble with drunks leaving.
The left lane is almost as bad, the street past the viaduct is almost as blind. The center two lanes are the only almost safe ones.
I've had stories posted that bore little resemblance to what I wrote, except the link and being given credit. I've had others that were only changed slightly, and some that weren't changed at all. So there are editors, different editors do it differently.
Since you mentioned the "Pledge of Allegiance" you're American. The constitution doesn't grant property rights to your art, it specifically says the "property" belongs to everyone and the artist only has a limited-time monopoly.
Please stop helping them in their quest to change a "temporary" monopoly to ownership. I was born sixty years ago and never once heard or read the term "intellectual property" until the Bono Act.
Yes, it's property, but it belongs to all of us. Personally, I think the bono Act was a clusterfuck of epic proportions that makes it harder to create. Like science and technology, all art is built on what has come before. Extremely long copyright, let alone "ownership" hurts culture and the artists who contribute to it.
No, as a fellow geezer I must say that the GP is correct. Back then they didn't have stories about some two-bit actor's drug problems runnning two weeks straight or having "who won 'dancing with the stars last night'" type nonsense. On Oscar night they might have mentioned who won a few on the news the next morning instead of having the entire "Good Morning America" so-called "news" show entirely fixated on Oscar and only Oscar as they did this morning. The news divisions have been completely co-opted by the entertainment divisions.
there's a lot of evidence to suggest that whilst lighting makes pedestrians feel safer, it actually reduces safety because it creates lots of dark shadows.
Tell that to the half a dozen people who died on Dirkson in Springfield before they put the lights in five years ago. Not one single death since.
That was insightful, especially the last two paragraphs. I wish I had a time machine so I could take these ignorant kids back to Sauget, IL in 1965. They'd stop hating the EPA. Or maybe not, Ron Paul was an adult then, which is why I could never vote for him. Nobody who was alive then and ever drove past a chemical factory could possibly be against the EPA unless they were heavily invested in polluting industries like Big Oil or Monsanto.
Jesus H. Christ, can't you Dawkins-worshiping antitheists give it a goddamned rest for fuck's sake? It's old and tiresome. The GP may not even believe in god; it's a figure of speech, no different than saying "mother nature" (another deity, worshiped by Wiccans).
I don't know who's worse, you fools who throw a fit any time anybody says the word "god" or the goddamned Jehova's Witnesses. The only differece is to avoid the JWs I just don't answer the door, but I'd have to stop reading slashdot to avoid you clowns. Give it a rest. Nobody likes evangelists.
I'm pretty sure neither birds nor the FSM can hold copyright.
There are plenty of people who are literate who don't give a fuck about spelling errors, either.
True, not everyone who knows how to read actually does so. As Twain said, the aliterate has no advantage over the illiterate. Typos are one thing, everybody makes them. but saying "loose the dog" when you mean "lose the dog" makes you look like an idiot and completely changes the meaning of what you intended to convey. Writing "noone" when you mean "no one" is just annoying. Saying "their" when you mean "they're" or using apostrophes stupidly just makes you look retarded and devalues what you're trying to say.
Errors like that when programming make your programs buggy. Same with communication.
Christopher Dodd or some other MAFIAA shill probably has points today. I've seen some horrible moderations lately, mostly people modding insightful comments as "troll" or "flamebait" because they point out an inconvinient truth about Microsoft, Sony, Apple, or Google. If we're lucky, some better mods will rectify the situation.
If it's age-related you can get glasses for ten bucks. Or a CrystaLens implant for $15,000.
back on topic... from TFS -- designed to disrupt Pope Benedict XVI's visit to Madrid in August 2011 for World Youth Day and draw attention to child sexual abuse by priests.
As if everybody and his dog didn't already know about the pedophlia. I never could understand the Catholic's refusal to let priests marry, considering that one of the Apostles (Peter maybe? I'd have to look it up) said that men should marry to avoid being tempted into sinful sex, and there's surely not much that's more sinful than raping children.
The *PROBLEM* is that Rumblefish is claiming copyright on other people's work. That's completely unacceptable--it's piracy.
No, it's far worse than piracy. Study after study shows piracy sells content, the latest I heard of was by a book publisher who wanted to know how badly piracy was hurting sales, and found that the piracy actually increased sales. That's why indie musicians and Cory Doctorow put their stuff on the web. Doctorow credits his status as a NYT best seller to the fact that he puts his books on boingboing. I know I wouldn't have a copy of Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom on my shelf if I hadn't read it online first. Same reason I visit the library for free books, movies, and music. As Doctorow notes, nobody ever lost money due to piracy, but many an artist has gone hungry from obscurity.
The only artists who piracy hurts are the ones whose works suck. I learned as a teenager never to buy an LP because I heard a song from it on the radio. After two or three with one good song and the rest crap, I stopped buying albums I hadn't heard in their entirety. Most of the albums I bought I'd taped off of KSHE's 7th Day program; they play 7 full albums every Sunday night and have done so for over forty years.
Rumblefish is actually STEALING. They're getting the ad money that rightfully belongs to the copyright holder they claim is infringing.
A number of idiots drive in the dusk without their headlights on out here in the country.
They do here in the city as well. They must not realise that their headlights aren't just to see me, they're for me to see them as well. And the law usually says that you have headlights on from half hour before sunset to half hour after sunrise, and if you get in a wreck with one of these idiots, they're automatically at fault unless you, too, broke some law.
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Frederick Miller was born in Germany and learned his craft there, bringing the recipe to America, as was and did Adolphus Busch and Adolph Coors. So is Budweiser German, American, or Belgian? Is Coors German, American, or Canadian?
From the link to Frederick Miller from the link you provided.
Bud Light and Miller Lite are American, but by your logic, Budweiser and Miller High Life are German beers, with their original brewers bringing the recipes for their pilsner (Bud) and pale ale (Miller) to America. And judging from the taste, the recipes for the diet beers aren't that different from the original recipes.
Personally, my favorite beers are Foster's and Bass.
There is no "Bud Lite", "Lite" is a trademark of the Miller company, and it refers to their diet beer, just as Bud Light is diet beer.
Busch and Miller brought the recipes for the original Budweiser and Miller with them from their native Germany.
Both Busch and Miller (the men who started those breweries) came to the US from Germany with German recipes. So by your way of thinking, Budweiser and Miller (not Bud Light or Miller Lite) are both German beers.
Springfield, IL. A bar down the street from my house has draft for $.99, one on North Grand has fifty cent drafts on Tuesdays. Mugshots and Felbers have bottles for $1.50 on Wednesdays.
D'Arcy's Pint is one of, if not the, best restaraunt in town; they've been featured on the Food Channel. A pint of Guiness is $3 there. You can get one of the best meals you've ever eaten, including a couple of pints, for under twenty bucks.
It doesn't cost a lot to live here, and there are even cheaper places to live. My dad moved to Poplar Bluff, MO when he retired because the cost of living is lower than here.
I'm richer than someone living in Chicago that earns twice what I do.
Being raped with a nightstick isn't being groped, you damned idiot. Fuck you and your accusations of "troll", asshole.
You assume that once it becomes legal, demand will increase significantly. This is very fallacious.
You're correct, and the fallacy came about after prohibition when twice as many folks drank as before. The actuality was that the outlawing itself was what fueled the increase, as my grandmother (born in 1903) explained.
Before prohibition, few women drank, and the few who did, did so in private and in secret. The salloon was a man's place that no self-respecting woman would enter.
Prohibition closed the salloons and brought about the speakeasy. It was no longer more OK for men to drink than women, so a sea change in manners came about -- women as well as men went to speakeasies.
As Creedence sang in bootleg, "take a glass of water, make it against the law, see how good the water tastes when you can't have any more." Prohibition fuels use, not legalization.
I never heard of the "glass in the weed" thing before, but hearing about it now it seems clear where it started -- in the ghetto, and is certainly false. Dealers often call high quality dope "glass" these days. Easy to see how this might confuse some into thinking somebody would put glass in weed.
However, back in the '70s people would often take shitweet (not weed with shit in it, weed that wouldn't get you high) and add PCP to make it give you a high. I don't know if this is still done, but I suspect it probably is. Also, there are often other contaminants from carelssness, such as jimson weed*, spider webs, insects, etc, especially in low grade smoke.
However, these days you can tell good weed from the smell of the baggie.
*Jimson weed is a nasty high and will ruin your dope
Before you apply Hanlon's Razor (never assume malice when incompetence explains), apply mine -- never assume incompetence when greedy self-interest explains.
Not just country roads. If you're coming up 6th street in Springfield from I-55 during the day, this is an incredibly scary spot in the daytime. Cars coming from Princeton (right before the viaduct) come out blind -- there's no way to tell if traffic is coming or not from Princeton. I never EVER go past that spot in the right lane. During the day you could slam into someone dumb enough to come out there, and at night -- well, JW's is a bar on the right just past the viaduct and you're liable to have trouble with drunks leaving.
The left lane is almost as bad, the street past the viaduct is almost as blind. The center two lanes are the only almost safe ones.
I've had stories posted that bore little resemblance to what I wrote, except the link and being given credit. I've had others that were only changed slightly, and some that weren't changed at all. So there are editors, different editors do it differently.
Since you mentioned the "Pledge of Allegiance" you're American. The constitution doesn't grant property rights to your art, it specifically says the "property" belongs to everyone and the artist only has a limited-time monopoly.
Please stop helping them in their quest to change a "temporary" monopoly to ownership. I was born sixty years ago and never once heard or read the term "intellectual property" until the Bono Act.
Yes, it's property, but it belongs to all of us. Personally, I think the bono Act was a clusterfuck of epic proportions that makes it harder to create. Like science and technology, all art is built on what has come before. Extremely long copyright, let alone "ownership" hurts culture and the artists who contribute to it.
No, as a fellow geezer I must say that the GP is correct. Back then they didn't have stories about some two-bit actor's drug problems runnning two weeks straight or having "who won 'dancing with the stars last night'" type nonsense. On Oscar night they might have mentioned who won a few on the news the next morning instead of having the entire "Good Morning America" so-called "news" show entirely fixated on Oscar and only Oscar as they did this morning. The news divisions have been completely co-opted by the entertainment divisions.
there's a lot of evidence to suggest that whilst lighting makes pedestrians feel safer, it actually reduces safety because it creates lots of dark shadows.
Tell that to the half a dozen people who died on Dirkson in Springfield before they put the lights in five years ago. Not one single death since.
I think we all misunderstand the poor misunderstood AC. He was asking if the British Rock band cares.
Well, after the maize crops were gone from the drought, they probably had to eke out an existence eating mice.
That was insightful, especially the last two paragraphs. I wish I had a time machine so I could take these ignorant kids back to Sauget, IL in 1965. They'd stop hating the EPA. Or maybe not, Ron Paul was an adult then, which is why I could never vote for him. Nobody who was alive then and ever drove past a chemical factory could possibly be against the EPA unless they were heavily invested in polluting industries like Big Oil or Monsanto.
Jesus H. Christ, can't you Dawkins-worshiping antitheists give it a goddamned rest for fuck's sake? It's old and tiresome. The GP may not even believe in god; it's a figure of speech, no different than saying "mother nature" (another deity, worshiped by Wiccans).
I don't know who's worse, you fools who throw a fit any time anybody says the word "god" or the goddamned Jehova's Witnesses. The only differece is to avoid the JWs I just don't answer the door, but I'd have to stop reading slashdot to avoid you clowns. Give it a rest. Nobody likes evangelists.
I'm pretty sure neither birds nor the FSM can hold copyright.
There are plenty of people who are literate who don't give a fuck about spelling errors, either.
True, not everyone who knows how to read actually does so. As Twain said, the aliterate has no advantage over the illiterate. Typos are one thing, everybody makes them. but saying "loose the dog" when you mean "lose the dog" makes you look like an idiot and completely changes the meaning of what you intended to convey. Writing "noone" when you mean "no one" is just annoying. Saying "their" when you mean "they're" or using apostrophes stupidly just makes you look retarded and devalues what you're trying to say.
Errors like that when programming make your programs buggy. Same with communication.
Who modded up this dreck?
Christopher Dodd or some other MAFIAA shill probably has points today. I've seen some horrible moderations lately, mostly people modding insightful comments as "troll" or "flamebait" because they point out an inconvinient truth about Microsoft, Sony, Apple, or Google. If we're lucky, some better mods will rectify the situation.
This is wrong. A corporation is not a car, it is a person. If you buy a corporation...
Isn't buying persons called "slavery"?
If it's age-related you can get glasses for ten bucks. Or a CrystaLens implant for $15,000.
back on topic... from TFS -- designed to disrupt Pope Benedict XVI's visit to Madrid in August 2011 for World Youth Day and draw attention to child sexual abuse by priests.
As if everybody and his dog didn't already know about the pedophlia. I never could understand the Catholic's refusal to let priests marry, considering that one of the Apostles (Peter maybe? I'd have to look it up) said that men should marry to avoid being tempted into sinful sex, and there's surely not much that's more sinful than raping children.
The *PROBLEM* is that Rumblefish is claiming copyright on other people's work. That's completely unacceptable--it's piracy.
No, it's far worse than piracy. Study after study shows piracy sells content, the latest I heard of was by a book publisher who wanted to know how badly piracy was hurting sales, and found that the piracy actually increased sales. That's why indie musicians and Cory Doctorow put their stuff on the web. Doctorow credits his status as a NYT best seller to the fact that he puts his books on boingboing. I know I wouldn't have a copy of Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom on my shelf if I hadn't read it online first. Same reason I visit the library for free books, movies, and music. As Doctorow notes, nobody ever lost money due to piracy, but many an artist has gone hungry from obscurity.
The only artists who piracy hurts are the ones whose works suck. I learned as a teenager never to buy an LP because I heard a song from it on the radio. After two or three with one good song and the rest crap, I stopped buying albums I hadn't heard in their entirety. Most of the albums I bought I'd taped off of KSHE's 7th Day program; they play 7 full albums every Sunday night and have done so for over forty years.
Rumblefish is actually STEALING. They're getting the ad money that rightfully belongs to the copyright holder they claim is infringing.
Even if the company representatives posting here are decent people, their company's model is not decent.
Decent people wouldn't work for a company like that. As you said, Better to do something honest, like dealing drugs or prostitution.
Yeah, I'm sure there are some plenty nice people working there
I'd need proof. But I assume you're just being polite. Please don't, scum like that don't deserve "polite".
A number of idiots drive in the dusk without their headlights on out here in the country.
They do here in the city as well. They must not realise that their headlights aren't just to see me, they're for me to see them as well. And the law usually says that you have headlights on from half hour before sunset to half hour after sunrise, and if you get in a wreck with one of these idiots, they're automatically at fault unless you, too, broke some law.