Yes, they outsource to everybody, but Apple is the biggest by far. If Dell told the Fox Con to clean up their act, Dell would be laughed out of the building. If Apple told Fox Con to clean up their act and added an "or else" things would change.
Apple's being singled out because besides Fox Con, they're the only ones with power to do anything about it.
I'm almost as amused by Foxconn's name as I am the name of a local construction company, Construx. I see thier trucks with "Construx" on them and laugh -- "Con's trucks."
I suspect that the big tech companies actually are hiring people to do nothing but post on slashdot to try to sway nerds' opinions, but there are those wo work for those companies posting it because they really believe it (plus the "what? nobody talks about MY amployer like that!"). You have Microsoft programmers who, when you point out how Microsoft is crap are personally offended because you're saying that they can't code their ways out of paper bags.
Then there is Apple... they don't need shills, they have hordes of zombie fanbois.
Because it damned important, that's why. I wish I could have filled a few balloons full of Monsanto air in 1969 for you kids -- but they would have disintegrated immediately. You kids can't envision just how bad pollution really is. But here's a tiny sample: go into your garage, pour a gallon of gasoline in a bucket and a bottle of chlorene bleach in another bucket. Stand there for a while and you'll see how things were before the EPA existed.
And rocket fuels are VERY toxic. More toxic than that gasoline.
Why do you waste the time and money washing your clothes, let alone the vegetables from your garden? Green == clean.
Same problem exists now, we have old software. Some have 07, some have 03. The worst was about ten years agoi when they upgraded from 97 to 03. Not a single one of my Access programs worked; I had to completely redo all of them from scratch. The only thing salvageable was the tables. And that was compounded by the fact that they completely changed the interface as well.
That's what you have now - people not giving a shit
That's a fallacy that's been shoveled by the corporate media. People don't stay away from the polls because they don't care, they stay away because they feel they don't count. The media have convinced them that a vote for a losing candidate is a wasted vote, so only an R or a D can win. And when both candidates are for what you're against and against what you're for -- if no candidate has views that agree with yours, most people see their lack of participation in the voting process as a vote for "none of the above".
Any more I usually vote Green or Libbie if one of them is on the ballot, even if they're nut cases. They won't win anyway, and I have registered my dislike for the status quo..
The sticking point was long division, and the new way of doing it wasn't in the textbooks. Publishing is a lot faster now, when I was in college one instructor said by the time a textbook was in the classroom it was already obsolete.
Keeping the capital gains tax rate a little lower than income tax spurs investment.
That's what Reagan told us, but when the rates were slashed there was an orgy of leveraged takeovers and buyouts, and the working stiff got shafted, as well as investors who were holding their stock for long term investment. It gave rise to the "day trader," who is a gambler, not an investor.
He could have said, "yes" if he wanted to. But "yes" would have meant being subservient to authority, "no" would have meant disrespecting authority, and his answer challenged both the authorities and the people to respect authority as long as it did not conflict with the moral standards of God.
That is correct. He could simply have said "yes" but his answer gave the reason for the "yes". Whose pictures are on your coins and bills? All high government officials.
I agree that it isn't a political issue, but a moral issue. You can't have it both ways.
Only real property rights really protect environment
I hear that all the time and cannot understand the logic behind it. If property rights can protect the environment, then why didn't they before the EPA was established? Before 1970 you literally could not breathe within a half mile of a Monsanto plant. Rivers caught fire they were so polluted. Whay was it so polluted then and why is it no longer?
Again, the libertarian (small L) position -- your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. You have no right to put your toxins in my air and you have no right to dump your toxins in my water. Now, who is going to protect those rights? Are you advocating that rather than push government to outlaw ruining the air and water we should have just murdered Monsanto's President and board, and blown the plant up?
How can such an obvious pro-Microsoft shill like that get rated +4
The same way I get modded down when I point out the many ways Linux is superior to Windows, no matter how polite and factual the comment. Hell, I've even been modded "troll" for bashing Sony's antisocial, irresponsible shenanigans.
Unless I say something bad about someone's employer I almost always get modded up, though, so it doesn't worry me. Annoying when a good, informative, polite comment gets modded troll and buried, though.
Linux is a great OS. But it isn't perfect Windows is better then Linux in a lot of Areas... Also Linux is better then Windows in a lot of areas
I'd have modded up for that alone. However --
1. Office comparability... Oddly enough when you are working with other businesses they prefer to get Office Compatible documents. LibreOffice does a great job at office compatibility however it is 99% compatible, so 3 times a year you have an issue and you need to look like your company is to cheap to buy software that the rest of the industry uses.
That's one of the problems with Microsoft -- very often their own products are incompatible. If Joe has the latest copy of Word and sends me a document, I'm not likely to be able to open it at all with the previous version. Oo will, even if it messes up some of Joe's formatting.
No, he's a man of principles. Far more principled than me (but he's surely much, much younger). To misquote Mel Gibson's character in The Patriot, "I'm a parent. I can't afford principles".
Probably a mainframe terminal. The ones we have didn't have lower case. The computers did, but not the terminals.
Part of what I used to have to do was download a report off the mainframe and load it into Word Perfect to convert the report's case (as well as other formatting nicities).
even if a private company becomes de-facto government, it then is no longer just a company
Which is why government should always be larger and stronger than corporations. The definition of facism is commerce controlling government, and we're well on our way there.
By "keep them from physical labor", you mean avoid excessive physical exertion, right?
Yes, of course. You shouldn't be lifting fifty pound boxes while you're pregnant, nor be standing all day long. Working in an office? That won't hurt the kid. Roofing? Hell no she shouldn't be doing that! As to your hunter-gatherer societies, until modern times the most prevalent cause of death was childbirth. A hundred years ago neither my daughter nor my ex-wife would have survived the birth.
Cord wrap isn't caused by exertion.
The doctor said it was.
You have my sympathies, and I hope your social group is able to provide the required support
She's grown now. Her little sister manages a GameStop store (the younger one was gifted. I wish she could have gotten as much attention in school as the oder one did).
Face it, teachers are like any other group. Only 10% of them graduated in the top 10% of their class. College only required them to be right 70% of the time. That is right. Your child may be taught by someone who gets 30% of the material wrong, and that is before they perform a poor job at communicating what they DO know.
What's even worse is you have math majors teaching literature, literature majors teaching science, and science majors teaching PE.
Many private schools spend half as much as public schools do per student yet the children learn far better? Why is this? Maybe because someone who is taxed for public schools and then still ponies up money for a private insinuation cares enough about their child's education to be involved and make sure that the succeed no matter what.
Most people can't afford private schools. The kids aren't in public schools because their parents don't care, they're there because they can't afford private schools. Since you were poor when you raised your kids you certainly should know that.
The trouble with intellectual "property" is there's not supposed to be any such thing, and in fact afaik nobody used the term in the last century. If they did, I never heard or read it.
Copyright is supposed to encourage authors to write, so their works enter the public domain. An author isn't supposed to own his novel or textbook, he's only supposed to have a limited time monopoly on it.
The idea of "intellectual property" discourages new works, because everything comes from what came before. Now? hard to create anything without being in danger of being sued.
"Teabagger" is no more a misnomer than "Tea Partier". The Boston Tea Party was "no taxation without representation." The Tea Party is simply "No Taxation." And I'm sure it's thrown around in the same vein as "Libtards". The difference is the teabagger pun is actually a little humorous, considering the ghetto definition of "reabagger" and considering who it was that started the movement (the Koch brothers).
Federal taxes are lower than they've been in my entire life, an I'll be sixty in a couple of months. Do we need to cut spending? Yes, especially on the military and most especially on pork. Do the rich need higher taxes? Hell yes! The tax I'd raise is the Capital Gains tax. Or better yet, get rid of that tax altogether and simply tax capital gains at the same rate as any other income. There is no rational reason whatever for capital gains to be taxed lower than any other income.
Ironic; no, hypocritical, that most of the Tea Party folks claim to be Christians, when Jesus Himself, when asked if one should pay taxes, said "render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's."
Oh, fercrissake... Ron Paul? Who do you think wants this "socialist" authoritarianism? THE GOD DAMNED CORPORATIONS! Aside from the right to smoke dope, the only freedoms Paul are after are the freedoms to screw workers, wreck the environment, and screw corporate "consumers".
Most of the repressive laws that have been written in my not short life have been passed by conservatives.
The Libertarian idea of "freedom" is insane. Take Illinois, they're talking about outlawing hand held cell phones while driving. The Libertarians are screaming about how it "takes away our liberty, just like seat belt laws." Wrong. Whether or not you're wearing a seat belt doesn't affect me at all, but your inability to pay attention to the road certainly does.
I've worn seat belts long before they were mandatory, but I'm dead set against the mandate (I'll make an exception for kids). Cell phones while driving? Hell, why not make it legal for my next door neighbor to manufacture explosives in his garage? If he's out in the country, fine, but not next to MY house!
Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. There's no reason whatever why you can't have both liberty and good social structures. "Socialist" Europe seems to be freer in most respect than we Americans.
It wasn't that long ago that cursive was useful. Just ten years ago relatively few people had computers. The only way to send a note was to write it by hand on paper and put it in the mailbox. Cursive is much faster than printing; it was useful.
Now? Nobody needs to hand-write anything more complex than a shopping list, or scribble a phone number on a napkin -- no, wait, we don't even have to do that any more. Cursive is a quaint and unnecessary skill in the 21st century.
I'm betting you've never lived in a home without the internet. My kids didn't (they're in their twenties now).
Replace a few patrol cars with patrol drones and you could potentially reduce costs, improve traffic flow (all those dicks who slam on the brakes when they see a car with a light bar), and have a much wider area of coverage.
You haven't given this two seconds of thought. How is a drone going to pull over a drunk driver or a speeder? You think people drive crazy now, take away the cops and see how they drive.
Why do police have patrol cars that just drive around? For one, it's a deterrent to those few bad guys
Do you really believe they're deterred?
Last April my house was broken into and a box of checks (among other things) were stolen. The bank knew about it before I did; they called me asking if I was missing any checks, as someone had tried to cash an obviously forged one. The cop that took my report went to the bank and saw the video, and twenty minutes later saw the guy in the video sitting on a porch drinking beer, and arrested him (no, I didn't get my stuff back).
There's no way a drone could have been able to spot the guy with the forged check. Drones would be handy for catching kids smoking pot in the park, maybe, but not real criminals.
In their mind, the trillions in make-believe money they think they're owed is taken directly out of the economy.
Do you really think they believe their own bullshit? They know it's a damned lie and they don't care. What else would one think about a bunch of lyijng thieves like the RIAA?
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Yes, they outsource to everybody, but Apple is the biggest by far. If Dell told the Fox Con to clean up their act, Dell would be laughed out of the building. If Apple told Fox Con to clean up their act and added an "or else" things would change.
Apple's being singled out because besides Fox Con, they're the only ones with power to do anything about it.
I'm almost as amused by Foxconn's name as I am the name of a local construction company, Construx. I see thier trucks with "Construx" on them and laugh -- "Con's trucks."
Roofers do go through undue strain. But yes, they should stay in shape; walking, swimming, but not weightlifting or mountain climbing.
I suspect that the big tech companies actually are hiring people to do nothing but post on slashdot to try to sway nerds' opinions, but there are those wo work for those companies posting it because they really believe it (plus the "what? nobody talks about MY amployer like that!"). You have Microsoft programmers who, when you point out how Microsoft is crap are personally offended because you're saying that they can't code their ways out of paper bags.
Then there is Apple... they don't need shills, they have hordes of zombie fanbois.
Because it damned important, that's why. I wish I could have filled a few balloons full of Monsanto air in 1969 for you kids -- but they would have disintegrated immediately. You kids can't envision just how bad pollution really is. But here's a tiny sample: go into your garage, pour a gallon of gasoline in a bucket and a bottle of chlorene bleach in another bucket. Stand there for a while and you'll see how things were before the EPA existed.
And rocket fuels are VERY toxic. More toxic than that gasoline.
Why do you waste the time and money washing your clothes, let alone the vegetables from your garden? Green == clean.
Same problem exists now, we have old software. Some have 07, some have 03. The worst was about ten years agoi when they upgraded from 97 to 03. Not a single one of my Access programs worked; I had to completely redo all of them from scratch. The only thing salvageable was the tables. And that was compounded by the fact that they completely changed the interface as well.
That's what you have now - people not giving a shit
That's a fallacy that's been shoveled by the corporate media. People don't stay away from the polls because they don't care, they stay away because they feel they don't count. The media have convinced them that a vote for a losing candidate is a wasted vote, so only an R or a D can win. And when both candidates are for what you're against and against what you're for -- if no candidate has views that agree with yours, most people see their lack of participation in the voting process as a vote for "none of the above".
Any more I usually vote Green or Libbie if one of them is on the ballot, even if they're nut cases. They won't win anyway, and I have registered my dislike for the status quo..
The sticking point was long division, and the new way of doing it wasn't in the textbooks. Publishing is a lot faster now, when I was in college one instructor said by the time a textbook was in the classroom it was already obsolete.
You must be young then, because the two rates after Reagan were 28% and 15%
Here are the data in graph form.
Keeping the capital gains tax rate a little lower than income tax spurs investment.
That's what Reagan told us, but when the rates were slashed there was an orgy of leveraged takeovers and buyouts, and the working stiff got shafted, as well as investors who were holding their stock for long term investment. It gave rise to the "day trader," who is a gambler, not an investor.
He could have said, "yes" if he wanted to. But "yes" would have meant being subservient to authority, "no" would have meant disrespecting authority, and his answer challenged both the authorities and the people to respect authority as long as it did not conflict with the moral standards of God.
That is correct. He could simply have said "yes" but his answer gave the reason for the "yes". Whose pictures are on your coins and bills? All high government officials.
I agree that it isn't a political issue, but a moral issue. You can't have it both ways.
Only real property rights really protect environment
I hear that all the time and cannot understand the logic behind it. If property rights can protect the environment, then why didn't they before the EPA was established? Before 1970 you literally could not breathe within a half mile of a Monsanto plant. Rivers caught fire they were so polluted. Whay was it so polluted then and why is it no longer?
Again, the libertarian (small L) position -- your right to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. You have no right to put your toxins in my air and you have no right to dump your toxins in my water. Now, who is going to protect those rights? Are you advocating that rather than push government to outlaw ruining the air and water we should have just murdered Monsanto's President and board, and blown the plant up?
How can such an obvious pro-Microsoft shill like that get rated +4
The same way I get modded down when I point out the many ways Linux is superior to Windows, no matter how polite and factual the comment. Hell, I've even been modded "troll" for bashing Sony's antisocial, irresponsible shenanigans.
Unless I say something bad about someone's employer I almost always get modded up, though, so it doesn't worry me. Annoying when a good, informative, polite comment gets modded troll and buried, though.
Linux is a great OS. But it isn't perfect Windows is better then Linux in a lot of Areas... Also Linux is better then Windows in a lot of areas
I'd have modded up for that alone. However --
1. Office comparability... Oddly enough when you are working with other businesses they prefer to get Office Compatible documents. LibreOffice does a great job at office compatibility however it is 99% compatible, so 3 times a year you have an issue and you need to look like your company is to cheap to buy software that the rest of the industry uses.
That's one of the problems with Microsoft -- very often their own products are incompatible. If Joe has the latest copy of Word and sends me a document, I'm not likely to be able to open it at all with the previous version. Oo will, even if it messes up some of Joe's formatting.
The only thing I ever hated about cursive was reading other people's handwriting. But it is obsolete these days.
You're a douche
No, he's a man of principles. Far more principled than me (but he's surely much, much younger). To misquote Mel Gibson's character in The Patriot, "I'm a parent. I can't afford principles".
Probably a mainframe terminal. The ones we have didn't have lower case. The computers did, but not the terminals.
Part of what I used to have to do was download a report off the mainframe and load it into Word Perfect to convert the report's case (as well as other formatting nicities).
The military are using autonomous drones, I see no reason the cops wouldn't as well.
even if a private company becomes de-facto government, it then is no longer just a company
Which is why government should always be larger and stronger than corporations. The definition of facism is commerce controlling government, and we're well on our way there.
By "keep them from physical labor", you mean avoid excessive physical exertion, right?
Yes, of course. You shouldn't be lifting fifty pound boxes while you're pregnant, nor be standing all day long. Working in an office? That won't hurt the kid. Roofing? Hell no she shouldn't be doing that! As to your hunter-gatherer societies, until modern times the most prevalent cause of death was childbirth. A hundred years ago neither my daughter nor my ex-wife would have survived the birth.
Cord wrap isn't caused by exertion.
The doctor said it was.
You have my sympathies, and I hope your social group is able to provide the required support
She's grown now. Her little sister manages a GameStop store (the younger one was gifted. I wish she could have gotten as much attention in school as the oder one did).
Face it, teachers are like any other group. Only 10% of them graduated in the top 10% of their class. College only required them to be right 70% of the time. That is right. Your child may be taught by someone who gets 30% of the material wrong, and that is before they perform a poor job at communicating what they DO know.
What's even worse is you have math majors teaching literature, literature majors teaching science, and science majors teaching PE.
Many private schools spend half as much as public schools do per student yet the children learn far better? Why is this? Maybe because someone who is taxed for public schools and then still ponies up money for a private insinuation cares enough about their child's education to be involved and make sure that the succeed no matter what.
Most people can't afford private schools. The kids aren't in public schools because their parents don't care, they're there because they can't afford private schools. Since you were poor when you raised your kids you certainly should know that.
The trouble with intellectual "property" is there's not supposed to be any such thing, and in fact afaik nobody used the term in the last century. If they did, I never heard or read it.
Copyright is supposed to encourage authors to write, so their works enter the public domain. An author isn't supposed to own his novel or textbook, he's only supposed to have a limited time monopoly on it.
The idea of "intellectual property" discourages new works, because everything comes from what came before. Now? hard to create anything without being in danger of being sued.
"Teabagger" is no more a misnomer than "Tea Partier". The Boston Tea Party was "no taxation without representation." The Tea Party is simply "No Taxation." And I'm sure it's thrown around in the same vein as "Libtards". The difference is the teabagger pun is actually a little humorous, considering the ghetto definition of "reabagger" and considering who it was that started the movement (the Koch brothers).
Federal taxes are lower than they've been in my entire life, an I'll be sixty in a couple of months. Do we need to cut spending? Yes, especially on the military and most especially on pork. Do the rich need higher taxes? Hell yes! The tax I'd raise is the Capital Gains tax. Or better yet, get rid of that tax altogether and simply tax capital gains at the same rate as any other income. There is no rational reason whatever for capital gains to be taxed lower than any other income.
Ironic; no, hypocritical, that most of the Tea Party folks claim to be Christians, when Jesus Himself, when asked if one should pay taxes, said "render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's."
Maybe Ernie Ball is hiring.
Oh, fercrissake... Ron Paul? Who do you think wants this "socialist" authoritarianism? THE GOD DAMNED CORPORATIONS! Aside from the right to smoke dope, the only freedoms Paul are after are the freedoms to screw workers, wreck the environment, and screw corporate "consumers".
Most of the repressive laws that have been written in my not short life have been passed by conservatives.
The Libertarian idea of "freedom" is insane. Take Illinois, they're talking about outlawing hand held cell phones while driving. The Libertarians are screaming about how it "takes away our liberty, just like seat belt laws." Wrong. Whether or not you're wearing a seat belt doesn't affect me at all, but your inability to pay attention to the road certainly does.
I've worn seat belts long before they were mandatory, but I'm dead set against the mandate (I'll make an exception for kids). Cell phones while driving? Hell, why not make it legal for my next door neighbor to manufacture explosives in his garage? If he's out in the country, fine, but not next to MY house!
Your freedom to swing your fist ends where my nose begins. There's no reason whatever why you can't have both liberty and good social structures. "Socialist" Europe seems to be freer in most respect than we Americans.
It wasn't that long ago that cursive was useful. Just ten years ago relatively few people had computers. The only way to send a note was to write it by hand on paper and put it in the mailbox. Cursive is much faster than printing; it was useful.
Now? Nobody needs to hand-write anything more complex than a shopping list, or scribble a phone number on a napkin -- no, wait, we don't even have to do that any more. Cursive is a quaint and unnecessary skill in the 21st century.
I'm betting you've never lived in a home without the internet. My kids didn't (they're in their twenties now).
Replace a few patrol cars with patrol drones and you could potentially reduce costs, improve traffic flow (all those dicks who slam on the brakes when they see a car with a light bar), and have a much wider area of coverage.
You haven't given this two seconds of thought. How is a drone going to pull over a drunk driver or a speeder? You think people drive crazy now, take away the cops and see how they drive.
Why do police have patrol cars that just drive around? For one, it's a deterrent to those few bad guys
Do you really believe they're deterred?
Last April my house was broken into and a box of checks (among other things) were stolen. The bank knew about it before I did; they called me asking if I was missing any checks, as someone had tried to cash an obviously forged one. The cop that took my report went to the bank and saw the video, and twenty minutes later saw the guy in the video sitting on a porch drinking beer, and arrested him (no, I didn't get my stuff back).
There's no way a drone could have been able to spot the guy with the forged check. Drones would be handy for catching kids smoking pot in the park, maybe, but not real criminals.
In their mind, the trillions in make-believe money they think they're owed is taken directly out of the economy.
Do you really think they believe their own bullshit? They know it's a damned lie and they don't care. What else would one think about a bunch of lyijng thieves like the RIAA?