Are you a teacher? Imagine the harm it would do to you if schools started using volunteer teachers. Are you a baker? Imagine if supermarkets gave accepted free bread from bored housewives and retirees. Are you a bricklayer? Imagine if construction companies started allowing unemployed people to build houses for free.
Do you lay railroad tracks? Imagine if they had a machine to do that and your name is John Henry. Imagine if you were employed doing arithmetic for ballistic tables and they invented a computer. Are you a writer? Imagine someone wrote fiction for free?
You think this is evil? I disagree. If someone wants to give stuff away for free it's their right. If you translate for a living, call yourself John Henry because it won't be long before computers will do a good job of it.
Dunno... it looks cool, but that's all it has going for it. It doesn't look so cool for the driver, who seems to be having trouble controlling it, or for his back (and balls!) because of how the footrests are positioned.
If you're comfortable driving a chopper with monkey bars it would be ok maybe, but I prefer a more traditional bike -- say, a hog or a sportster with the fairings and saddlebags and other garbage stripped. And no chopping or monkey hangers!
No, the poor man doesn't shop in the same stores as the rich man, nor does he buy the same things. Your premise is based on a rich man's fantasy; no different that the poor man's fantasy of winning the lottery.
With taxes, they don't get to pick that, but to base that on either their income or wealth is a disincentive for them being either high-earning or rich.
That's the dumbest thing I've seen all week. "What? I can't have ten bottles of coke, I can only have nine? Screw that, I'll go thirsty!"
Unfortunate that so many people are idiotic enough to believe that stupid lie.
Those making millions make those millions due to their own hard work,
Many do, many don't, but all rich people's wealth was generated by others' labor. Sam Walton could not have gotten rich without an army of low-paid workers. That idiot Donald Trump could have never become rich without being born into wealth.
Income is income, whether it's salary or dividends, and should be taxed the same. Actually, seeing what happened when Reagan lowered the capital gains tax, they should be taxed at a higher rate. There was a flurry of corporate takeovers, attempted takeovers, layoffs and hours cut. It was a disaster for working people.
Why should a roofer, risking his life and health in the boiling sun for $75k/yr pay twice the tax on his income as some guy "earning" the same amount gambling on the stock market in air conditioned comfort?
That begs the question of why unearned income should be taxed at a lower rate than earned income. And don't talk about risk -- working people risk their very lives.
It's not about "hitting Buffett in the pocket"; my pocket is hit twice as hard. Raise the capital gains tax or lower my income tax.
If Buffet can choose to "donate whatever he wants" than why am I not allowed that privilege? Either raise his taxes or lower mine. Seeing as how we have a huge deficit, I say raise his and stop this stupid "well he can choose to pay" nonsense.
This is slashdot, we're a bit smarter than the tards at Yahoo's messageboards and you're not going to fool us with your false logic, red herrings, and straw men.
"Risk?" An investor risks nothing but money. Take two middle class guys earning $75k/yr. One is a roofer, one gambles the stock market. The roofer, working off the sweat of his brow and the skill of his trade is risking his very LIFE. Risk? Investors know nothing of risk, and there's no valid reason he should pay less in taxes.
It's not "not contributing", its not contributing their fair share. Do you really think Buffett's secretary should pay the same dollar amount as Buffett? That's stupid.
If I pay 40% of my salary and you pay 20% of yours, and you earn twice what I do, you're paying the same dollar amount. That's fair? You people amaze me.
If the top 5% do in fact pay 40% of revenues and they're taxed at half what normal people are, doubling their taxes would go a LONG way to easing the defect.
First, forget about the state and local and excise taxes -- they're an offtopic red herring. The subject is Federal tax. And warren Buffet pays half the percentage I do. I have no idea what your income is, but if you're affected by the Obama legislation, you're earning over a million bucks a year and REALLY should quit whining!
Do you realize how stupidly insensitive a millionaire bitching about taxes and food stamps and medicare sounds? You should be ashamed of yourselves.
And if you don't earn over a million per year and you're bitching about this, you have really poor math skills.
If you have profits of a million dollars per year, calling your business "small" is a bit disingenuous. Hell, most businesspeople I know don't even have revenues that big, let alone profits.
Human" is whatever word in their language that connotes their species is translated to English from. One Native American tribe's name (Soux maybe?) means "human" in their language.
Sometimes a suspension of disbelief needs a good imagination. In this case you have to remember that nobody in Star Wars is human! They live in a distant galaxy in a distant time. They could be (could have been, could have will be) in a part of the universe with completely different laws of physics (like that pesky lightspeed barrier).
They have mitochlorians, we have mitochondria. You just don't live in a galaxy where mitochlorians exist.
Sorry I don;t have a citation (I'm sure Google does) but a study was recently stopped because the results were obvious early and were life-savers. If they catch it early and treat it aggressively, HIV is nearly impossible to transmit -- after two years in the four year study, many patients using the old treatments' partners caught HIV, but not a single one of the ones treated early and aggressively had a partner who caught it.
I don't remember how large the study was, but the researchers seemed pretty excited about it.
Someone earlier mentioned Hepatitis C, that disease is hard to catch -- you have to either share needles with an infected person, or be the recipient of anal sex.
I've paid taxes. Whereas most of the poor have not.
Most of the poor pay no FEDERAL tax; they pay plenty in State, local, and excise taxes.
Taking from the middle class to give to the rich, who benefit from government far more than anyone else is bad (Warren Buffett paid half the rate his secretary did), but for the rich to then whine about their taxes is obscene. Render unto Ceaser that which is Ceasar's."
Making Buffett pay the same percentage as his secretary, rather than half as much would be him paying his fair share. As the tax code is written now, he pays half the rate. That is patently UNFAIR.
First, there isn't enough money in million+ income hands to balance the budget.
That's no reason why they shouldn't contribute to balancing it.
This smells like more class warfare shit,
Yeah, and the middle class is losing the war. We should start fighting back.
and now they'll tax the remaining producers into moving their assets out of the country. Maybe it'll get him re-elected, right? We'll worry about the economy in the 2nd term.
Nice disingenuous straw man there, Mr. Koch. This isn't about corporate taxes, this is about personal income tax. Why should Warren Buffett pay half the rate his secretary does? Buffet vs his secretary IS class warfare.
Sorry, but that's just stupid. You could as easily say that working people aren't taxed, they just pass the costs to their employers.
You can't pass the cost to your customers if your competitor doesn't. I have no choice in my personal taxes, but I choose whether or not I pay Kraft's taxes.
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Are you a teacher? Imagine the harm it would do to you if schools started using volunteer teachers. Are you a baker? Imagine if supermarkets gave accepted free bread from bored housewives and retirees. Are you a bricklayer? Imagine if construction companies started allowing unemployed people to build houses for free.
Do you lay railroad tracks? Imagine if they had a machine to do that and your name is John Henry. Imagine if you were employed doing arithmetic for ballistic tables and they invented a computer. Are you a writer? Imagine someone wrote fiction for free?
You think this is evil? I disagree. If someone wants to give stuff away for free it's their right. If you translate for a living, call yourself John Henry because it won't be long before computers will do a good job of it.
Dunno... it looks cool, but that's all it has going for it. It doesn't look so cool for the driver, who seems to be having trouble controlling it, or for his back (and balls!) because of how the footrests are positioned.
If you're comfortable driving a chopper with monkey bars it would be ok maybe, but I prefer a more traditional bike -- say, a hog or a sportster with the fairings and saddlebags and other garbage stripped. And no chopping or monkey hangers!
A few years ago they were advertising a book he wrote about how to get rich. What would anyone born into wealth know about getting rich?
What was that line from the last election, "born on third base and thinks he hit a triple"?
No, the poor man doesn't shop in the same stores as the rich man, nor does he buy the same things. Your premise is based on a rich man's fantasy; no different that the poor man's fantasy of winning the lottery.
With taxes, they don't get to pick that, but to base that on either their income or wealth is a disincentive for them being either high-earning or rich.
That's the dumbest thing I've seen all week. "What? I can't have ten bottles of coke, I can only have nine? Screw that, I'll go thirsty!"
Unfortunate that so many people are idiotic enough to believe that stupid lie.
Those making millions make those millions due to their own hard work,
Many do, many don't, but all rich people's wealth was generated by others' labor. Sam Walton could not have gotten rich without an army of low-paid workers. That idiot Donald Trump could have never become rich without being born into wealth.
So if that person making $12,000 a year pays $2 for a bottle of coke, Gates should pay what? $2,000
Actually, that's how it is now. Rich people pay $5 for a cup of Starbucks coffee, the middle class $1 for McDonalds, the poor five cents for Folgers.
The rich buy a Lamborghini, middle class a Chevy, the poor get a ten year old beater (or take the bus).
I can't tell if you're trolling or just stupid.
Income is income, whether it's salary or dividends, and should be taxed the same. Actually, seeing what happened when Reagan lowered the capital gains tax, they should be taxed at a higher rate. There was a flurry of corporate takeovers, attempted takeovers, layoffs and hours cut. It was a disaster for working people.
Why should a roofer, risking his life and health in the boiling sun for $75k/yr pay twice the tax on his income as some guy "earning" the same amount gambling on the stock market in air conditioned comfort?
That begs the question of why unearned income should be taxed at a lower rate than earned income. And don't talk about risk -- working people risk their very lives.
It's not about "hitting Buffett in the pocket"; my pocket is hit twice as hard. Raise the capital gains tax or lower my income tax.
So why not compare apples to apples next time and not apples to oranges.
Because the apples are taxed at half the rate of the oranges and they're both fruit. Capital gains ARE income and should be taxed as such.
If Buffet can choose to "donate whatever he wants" than why am I not allowed that privilege? Either raise his taxes or lower mine. Seeing as how we have a huge deficit, I say raise his and stop this stupid "well he can choose to pay" nonsense.
This is slashdot, we're a bit smarter than the tards at Yahoo's messageboards and you're not going to fool us with your false logic, red herrings, and straw men.
"Risk?" An investor risks nothing but money. Take two middle class guys earning $75k/yr. One is a roofer, one gambles the stock market. The roofer, working off the sweat of his brow and the skill of his trade is risking his very LIFE. Risk? Investors know nothing of risk, and there's no valid reason he should pay less in taxes.
It's not "not contributing", its not contributing their fair share. Do you really think Buffett's secretary should pay the same dollar amount as Buffett? That's stupid.
If I pay 40% of my salary and you pay 20% of yours, and you earn twice what I do, you're paying the same dollar amount. That's fair? You people amaze me.
If the top 5% do in fact pay 40% of revenues and they're taxed at half what normal people are, doubling their taxes would go a LONG way to easing the defect.
First, forget about the state and local and excise taxes -- they're an offtopic red herring. The subject is Federal tax. And warren Buffet pays half the percentage I do. I have no idea what your income is, but if you're affected by the Obama legislation, you're earning over a million bucks a year and REALLY should quit whining!
Do you realize how stupidly insensitive a millionaire bitching about taxes and food stamps and medicare sounds? You should be ashamed of yourselves.
And if you don't earn over a million per year and you're bitching about this, you have really poor math skills.
Fight back against the rich getting off paying HALF the percentage of taxed income I do, that's what.
Governance isn't cheap, but you can't have society without government.
If you have profits of a million dollars per year, calling your business "small" is a bit disingenuous. Hell, most businesspeople I know don't even have revenues that big, let alone profits.
Oh! That explains why they all talk English! "
Human" is whatever word in their language that connotes their species is translated to English from. One Native American tribe's name (Soux maybe?) means "human" in their language.
Sometimes a suspension of disbelief needs a good imagination. In this case you have to remember that nobody in Star Wars is human! They live in a distant galaxy in a distant time. They could be (could have been, could have will be) in a part of the universe with completely different laws of physics (like that pesky lightspeed barrier).
They have mitochlorians, we have mitochondria. You just don't live in a galaxy where mitochlorians exist.
Sorry I don;t have a citation (I'm sure Google does) but a study was recently stopped because the results were obvious early and were life-savers. If they catch it early and treat it aggressively, HIV is nearly impossible to transmit -- after two years in the four year study, many patients using the old treatments' partners caught HIV, but not a single one of the ones treated early and aggressively had a partner who caught it.
I don't remember how large the study was, but the researchers seemed pretty excited about it.
Someone earlier mentioned Hepatitis C, that disease is hard to catch -- you have to either share needles with an infected person, or be the recipient of anal sex.
We had that in the '70s. It was awesome!
I've paid taxes. Whereas most of the poor have not.
Most of the poor pay no FEDERAL tax; they pay plenty in State, local, and excise taxes.
Taking from the middle class to give to the rich, who benefit from government far more than anyone else is bad (Warren Buffett paid half the rate his secretary did), but for the rich to then whine about their taxes is obscene. Render unto Ceaser that which is Ceasar's."
I'm more worried that this taxes people on their way to becoming rich.
This is about people earning over a million per year.
Tax wealth not income
So I pay taxes on what I earn this year every single year afterwards? No, thanks. Property tax is possibly the most unfair there is.
For the record, I earn about median for the US, a "wealth tax" hits homeowners and renters.
Making Buffett pay the same percentage as his secretary, rather than half as much would be him paying his fair share. As the tax code is written now, he pays half the rate. That is patently UNFAIR.
First, there isn't enough money in million+ income hands to balance the budget.
That's no reason why they shouldn't contribute to balancing it.
This smells like more class warfare shit,
Yeah, and the middle class is losing the war. We should start fighting back.
and now they'll tax the remaining producers into moving their assets out of the country. Maybe it'll get him re-elected, right? We'll worry about the economy in the 2nd term.
Nice disingenuous straw man there, Mr. Koch. This isn't about corporate taxes, this is about personal income tax. Why should Warren Buffett pay half the rate his secretary does? Buffet vs his secretary IS class warfare.
Sorry, but that's just stupid. You could as easily say that working people aren't taxed, they just pass the costs to their employers.
You can't pass the cost to your customers if your competitor doesn't. I have no choice in my personal taxes, but I choose whether or not I pay Kraft's taxes.