This is silly... Bandwidth consist of two things 1) Latency 2) Throughput
One without the other is slightly useless. If your latency is low and your throughput is high then it will make no different for viewing a website since multiple connections and downloads occur between your browsers and your webserver.
We need a balance between the two. There are lots of potential with high bandwidth such as remote backups, video streaming etc...
There is no such thing as to much bandwidth, the problem is that latency doesn't allow bandwidth to show its true colors when small data transmissions occur such as sending receiving email or surfing the web.
The world extends further then the USA. Plus cutting off the supply of cheap goods would effect both countries equally.
Obviously such a sanction cannot and will never happen but a way must be found to stop this and it will be found.
It is going to be impossible to block skype if random ports are used and rubbish udp packets thrown around too confuse the filters or better yet random servers outside of china re-routing traffic.
Will start seeding skype should www.skype.com be blocked in china soon...
Back in the "days" when you didnt like the policy of a country, that country would get sanctioned.
I think countries should get "sanctioned" for censorship and abuse over the internet. The internet is ment to be the saviour, the free voice, the alternative.
If it was in my power I would block all telephone calls from china, if they are scared to lose revenue from skype then they shouldnt get any revenue.
Yeah, not going to happen and I am dreaming, but this is really a shocker. I live in South Africa where the cost of telecommunication is the highest in the world.
It is cheaper for me to fly to hong-kong and download 100gigs then it is to download from south africa (And faster I may add). We had all VOIP illegal until 2 years ago. Now we can use VOIP freely but with only 1 telecommunication provider in our country there revenue model is simply moving from phone charges to data charges.
I Agree, spent a couple of minutes looking on google for stats on complications during laser surgery etc and didnt really find anything besides lasik surgery.
Either it is hidden our like you sayed this is a "nice to have" concept.
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Did i type www.mit-new-headlines.com or www.slashdot.org? (funny that)
What is Scrum?
Scrum is an iterative, incremental process for developing any product or managing any work. It produces a potentially shippable set of functionality at the end of every iteration. It's attributes are:
* Scrum is an agile process to manage and control development work.
* Scrum is a wrapper for existing engineering practices.
* Scrum is a team-based approach to iteratively, incrementally develop systems and products when requirements are rapidly changing
* Scrum is a process that controls the chaos of conflicting interests and needs.
* Scrum is a way to improve communications and maximize co-operation.
* Scrum is a way to detect and cause the removal of anything that gets in the way of developing and delivering products.
* Scrum is a way to maximize productivity.
* Scrum is scalable from single projects to entire organizations. Scrum has controlled and organized development and implementation for multiple interrelated products and projects with over a thousand developers and implementers.
* Scrum is a way for everyone to feel good about their job, their contributions, and that they have done the very best they possibly could.
Last week, Microsoft purchased media-streams.com to add VoIP capabilities to its applications and servers. The acquisition fits in with Microsoft's plan to integrate e-mail, IM, SMS, voice and conferencing services. In August, Microsoft bought Teleo, a developer of VoIP, PSTN termination and click-to-call technology, which can be used to bring VoIP to the IM space.
So the obvious next plant would be to get rid of skype, no?
I am not a conspiracy theory kind of guy, but why the sudden noise about skype's insecure desgin using the http protocol to work over NAT at the same time that Microsoft and Cisco find a way for SIP to work "securely" over NAT?
The difference is years is MEASURABLE, technology uptake is not! So no, I have no idea what will happen in 5,10,50 years time. Maybe we will design rfids to the atomical level so that we can track every single atom in the universe. *yes that was a joke*
All i was stating is that we have no idea what kind of technology is going to progress in the future and we have no reason not to go big if there is already going to be a switch of address spacing.
Nicely put, just to stengthen your point - a little historical snippet
"In the early days of mainframe computing, resources were at a premium. Memory was expensive, disk storage was limited and input devices constrained. Every programming method was used that made efficient use of each component. One of the methods used was to truncate the year value to a two digit number for entry, storage and processing. This saved space and saved on the associated cost of storage and processing. After all, why enter and store the century portion of the date when it will always be 19? Right? It would be decades before the year 2000. By then, all the programs and hardware being used would be obsolete and replaced with newer equipment and programs."
Do we not learn from our mistakes? Calling IPv6 overkill is silly, why should we not overkill? Why not make sure that for the next century every electronic device will be able to have its own unique IP address.
NAT is all good and well but what about the growing number of mobile devices, what about some services that dont work behind NAT?
Who knows what will happen in 5,10,50 years. Soon every single vehicle, vending machine, traffic light and any other electronic device will require and IP address be it public or local.
I am all for IPv6!
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This is silly...
Bandwidth consist of two things
1) Latency
2) Throughput
One without the other is slightly useless.
If your latency is low and your throughput is high then it will make no different for viewing a website since multiple connections and downloads occur between your browsers and your webserver.
We need a balance between the two. There are lots of potential with high bandwidth such as remote backups, video streaming etc...
There is no such thing as to much bandwidth, the problem is that latency doesn't allow bandwidth to show its true colors when small data transmissions occur such as sending receiving email or surfing the web.
The world extends further then the USA. Plus cutting off the supply of cheap goods would effect both countries equally.
Obviously such a sanction cannot and will never happen but a way must be found to stop this and it will be found.
It is going to be impossible to block skype if random ports are used and rubbish udp packets thrown around too confuse the filters or better yet random servers outside of china re-routing traffic.
Will start seeding skype should www.skype.com be blocked in china soon...
Back in the "days" when you didnt like the policy of a country, that country would get sanctioned.
I think countries should get "sanctioned" for censorship and abuse over the internet. The internet is ment to be the saviour, the free voice, the alternative.
If it was in my power I would block all telephone calls from china, if they are scared to lose revenue from skype then they shouldnt get any revenue.
Yeah, not going to happen and I am dreaming, but this is really a shocker. I live in South Africa where the cost of telecommunication is the highest in the world.
It is cheaper for me to fly to hong-kong and download 100gigs then it is to download from south africa (And faster I may add). We had all VOIP illegal until 2 years ago. Now we can use VOIP freely but with only 1 telecommunication provider in our country there revenue model is simply moving from phone charges to data charges.
But yeah, blocking skype out is ridiculous!
I Agree, spent a couple of minutes looking on google for stats on complications during laser surgery etc and didnt really find anything besides lasik surgery.
Either it is hidden our like you sayed this is a "nice to have" concept.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Did i type www.mit-new-headlines.com or www.slashdot.org? (funny that)
heh
Was waiting for that one.
Had no idea what Scrum is so found this
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What is Scrum? Scrum is an iterative, incremental process for developing any product or managing any work. It produces a potentially shippable set of functionality at the end of every iteration. It's attributes are:
* Scrum is an agile process to manage and control development work.
* Scrum is a wrapper for existing engineering practices.
* Scrum is a team-based approach to iteratively, incrementally develop systems and products when requirements are rapidly changing * Scrum is a process that controls the chaos of conflicting interests and needs.
* Scrum is a way to improve communications and maximize co-operation.
* Scrum is a way to detect and cause the removal of anything that gets in the way of developing and delivering products.
* Scrum is a way to maximize productivity.
* Scrum is scalable from single projects to entire organizations. Scrum has controlled and organized development and implementation for multiple interrelated products and projects with over a thousand developers and implementers.
* Scrum is a way for everyone to feel good about their job, their contributions, and that they have done the very best they possibly could.
Original article can be found: http://www.controlchaos.com/about/?SID=8ef7eb5b2a
Hate replying to myself just wanted to add this:
Last week, Microsoft purchased media-streams.com to add VoIP capabilities to its applications and servers. The acquisition fits in with Microsoft's plan to integrate e-mail, IM, SMS, voice and conferencing services. In August, Microsoft bought Teleo, a developer of VoIP, PSTN termination and click-to-call technology, which can be used to bring VoIP to the IM space.
So the obvious next plant would be to get rid of skype, no?
This sounds like a direct attack on skype
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Replace the word skype with virtually any other software and the article would still be valid.
I feel sick when i read such articles and I feel even sicker when an article like this http://www.enterprisenetworkingplanet.com/netsp/a
I am not a conspiracy theory kind of guy, but why the sudden noise about skype's insecure desgin using the http protocol to work over NAT at the same time that Microsoft and Cisco find a way for SIP to work "securely" over NAT?
Call me paranoid but I find this very weird!
hmmm, I guess that is more of a noble cause then making my girl friend look like buffy.
wohoo, alter my IT neurons to think my girl friend looks like buffy :)
Haha couldnt resist finding this cartoon!_ jobs.jpg
http://nadali.blogs.com/nadalicom/images/gates_vs
Completly lost the point buddy!
The difference is years is MEASURABLE, technology uptake is not! So no, I have no idea what will happen in 5,10,50 years time. Maybe we will design rfids to the atomical level so that we can track every single atom in the universe. *yes that was a joke*
All i was stating is that we have no idea what kind of technology is going to progress in the future and we have no reason not to go big if there is already going to be a switch of address spacing.
Nicely put, just to stengthen your point - a little historical snippet "In the early days of mainframe computing, resources were at a premium. Memory was expensive, disk storage was limited and input devices constrained. Every programming method was used that made efficient use of each component. One of the methods used was to truncate the year value to a two digit number for entry, storage and processing. This saved space and saved on the associated cost of storage and processing. After all, why enter and store the century portion of the date when it will always be 19? Right? It would be decades before the year 2000. By then, all the programs and hardware being used would be obsolete and replaced with newer equipment and programs." Do we not learn from our mistakes? Calling IPv6 overkill is silly, why should we not overkill? Why not make sure that for the next century every electronic device will be able to have its own unique IP address. NAT is all good and well but what about the growing number of mobile devices, what about some services that dont work behind NAT? Who knows what will happen in 5,10,50 years. Soon every single vehicle, vending machine, traffic light and any other electronic device will require and IP address be it public or local. I am all for IPv6!