I used different reasoning, but I came up with the same sort of thing in high school. Then I took Calculus, and learned about limits, which are a lot less ambiguous, are actually useful, and fit into the rest of mathematics.
No, but "the Internet" isn't a product. Google has a near-monopoly on web searches
Does that matter? Unlike with an operating system, the cost of switching from one search engine to another is virtually nil. If Google starts harming the public, it could become irrelevant overnight. That isn't so with Microsoft (and it certainly wasn't so with Imperial Oil).
Microsoft Research does many sorts of interesting stuff. How many of those things become useful products? Not many.
Microsoft Research is a drain on society. They take many of the world's smartest people, and put them in an environment where little of what they do ever makes it to the public.
... why don't people call it what it is, instead of disingenuously referring to it as "stealing"? We don't call soldiers "murderers", even though they also kill people.
This stem cell debate being pushed by those "pro-choice" people who are looking for benefits to abortion. It serves their agenda to dehumanize unborn children.
Assuming that were true (it might be) and assuming that were the best argument in favour of embryonic stem cell research (it's not) it would still be nothing more than a bit of somewhat-related trivia that has absolutely no bearing on the issue at hand.
They call them "blastocysts, fetuses, genetic material, but never unborn children.
"Unborn children" is an imprecise, emotionally-charged term. Why would anyone use it outside politics?
All that aside, when it comes to stem cells, they have yet to give me an decent, honest answer to these questions:
Well now, let's all drop everything in order to explain things to ArcherB!
What's wrong with the stem cell lines we already have?
Why the push to create endless stem cell lines when a stem cell will reproduce to more and more stem cells forever?
Why are we wasting money, time and energy creating more stem cell lines when those resources could be spent on the actual research?
What's wrong with adult stem cell research?
[snip]
If there were no reason for it, why would anyone bother, law or no law? If generating embryonic stem cells for research is unnecessary, then it doesn't need to be outlawed, because nobody will do it anyway.
If you really cared about these people, you'd be screaming for more money for research, not lines.
The research can't happen if it's banned, idiot. First things first.
Everybody wants that, including redhat. Strange how if redhat offers something for free, then its a nice gift, but if microsoft does it, then a slashdotter calls it "sick" as if it were a crime against humanity.
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... by referencing sources in its science articles? It's extremely irritating to read an article in the mainstream press about what scientists supposedly think, and find that there are absolutely NO references to any scientific publications ANYWHERE.
That these journalism school graduates expect us to believe anything they say without proper citation shows just how little they really understand about science.
I see the BBC's initiative to be useful in the same way that the JREF Million Dollar Challenge is useful: The next time some crackpot cries, "I'm brilliant, but I'm being suppressed by The Establishment", we can challenge him to make his case to the BBC.
Google has no such responsibilities just becuse of the way they're treated by users. (And even if you argue that they're a monopoly, they haven't been granted monopoly status by a government.)
... about the government's chronic security problems? I don't care whether or not what this guy did was illegal; He shouldn't have been able to do that much damage. Was this attack not in the government's list of screenplays?
Have you actually used kde-cygwin? The last news item for kde-cygwin is over a year old, and the headline is, "development of native KDE on windows started". I think it's still a long way off. You'd do better to list something like http://www.vmware.com/.
There's no question that using Internet Explorer greatly compromises your internet security (now slightly less so with IE7), but yeah, an audio recording imforming you of a browser 'infection' is a bit much.
Yeah. A couple of icons on the desktop and in the start menu would have been much better.:)
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I used different reasoning, but I came up with the same sort of thing in high school. Then I took Calculus, and learned about limits, which are a lot less ambiguous, are actually useful, and fit into the rest of mathematics.
Does that matter? Unlike with an operating system, the cost of switching from one search engine to another is virtually nil. If Google starts harming the public, it could become irrelevant overnight. That isn't so with Microsoft (and it certainly wasn't so with Imperial Oil).
Microsoft Research does many sorts of interesting stuff. How many of those things become useful products? Not many.
Microsoft Research is a drain on society. They take many of the world's smartest people, and put them in an environment where little of what they do ever makes it to the public.
... why don't people call it what it is, instead of disingenuously referring to it as "stealing"? We don't call soldiers "murderers", even though they also kill people.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Assuming that were true (it might be) and assuming that were the best argument in favour of embryonic stem cell research (it's not) it would still be nothing more than a bit of somewhat-related trivia that has absolutely no bearing on the issue at hand.
They call them "blastocysts, fetuses, genetic material, but never unborn children."Unborn children" is an imprecise, emotionally-charged term. Why would anyone use it outside politics?
All that aside, when it comes to stem cells, they have yet to give me an decent, honest answer to these questions:Well now, let's all drop everything in order to explain things to ArcherB!
What's wrong with the stem cell lines we already have?Why the push to create endless stem cell lines when a stem cell will reproduce to more and more stem cells forever?
Why are we wasting money, time and energy creating more stem cell lines when those resources could be spent on the actual research?
What's wrong with adult stem cell research?
[snip]
If there were no reason for it, why would anyone bother, law or no law? If generating embryonic stem cells for research is unnecessary, then it doesn't need to be outlawed, because nobody will do it anyway.
If you really cared about these people, you'd be screaming for more money for research, not lines.The research can't happen if it's banned, idiot. First things first.
It strikes you as a bit creepy? And? WTF? Are you honestly stupid enough to think that's a good enough reason to enact law?
Religious people happen to strike me as a bit creepy. Should we outlaw them, too?
If that's all you've got, you seriously need to grow a pair (or a metaphorical pair, as the case may be).
A process that can't be practised can't be refined.
At least now it's being documented.
C99 has constant-size integer types. Previous versions might also. POSIX does too, apparently:
#include <stdint.h>
... or comedy.
It's like Maddox, but different: I think these people are actually serious.
Argh. I just posted this link.
Exactly. And this is why:
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... by referencing sources in its science articles? It's extremely irritating to read an article in the mainstream press about what scientists supposedly think, and find that there are absolutely NO references to any scientific publications ANYWHERE.
That these journalism school graduates expect us to believe anything they say without proper citation shows just how little they really understand about science.
I see the BBC's initiative to be useful in the same way that the JREF Million Dollar Challenge is useful: The next time some crackpot cries, "I'm brilliant, but I'm being suppressed by The Establishment", we can challenge him to make his case to the BBC.
Heh. ASCII art of you running into a glass door...
Bull shit.
Joke ---->
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I'm perfectly clear about the discussion. I'm suggesting demonstrating MSIE's lack of security _by example_.
... about the government's chronic security problems? I don't care whether or not what this guy did was illegal; He shouldn't have been able to do that much damage. Was this attack not in the government's list of screenplays?
Have you actually used kde-cygwin? The last news item for kde-cygwin is over a year old, and the headline is, "development of native KDE on windows started". I think it's still a long way off. You'd do better to list something like http://www.vmware.com/.
Yeah. A couple of icons on the desktop and in the start menu would have been much better. :)
News flash: analog media is also band-limited.
What, were previous versions of Windows designed to make malware hard?
I've seen it between cities that were 150 miles apart. They used it all the time.
Excellent troll, however.