The line between the two is by no means bright. For example, is a discussion forum such as Slashdot a "page" or an "application"?
I disagree, it's quite clear. Slashdot's forums are clearly a page. That said, there should be tag that is a placeholder for content to retrieve until it's exposed. expand/collapse stuff can already be done using CSS.
if you change from offering one web application to offering five native applications, you end up having to compile, test, and deploy on all five platforms' stores
You don't need to use "stores" and with Qt you don't have to do anything but recompile. You don't even have to test for compatibility bullshit like webdev, so it's even easier. See, problem solved.
if you are really paranoid, you should probably use an iPhone, and not Android
wrong! if you are really paranoid, you shouldn't carry around something that could easily be described as the most sophisticated surveillance device that man has ever created.
There are plenty of web applications that could not be created without script
Absolutely, those are applications. I'm talking about web pages, the things that display information and you can navigate around.
And if you say those apps should be native instead of using the web platform, good luck running a Mac-only app on your Windows PC or a Windows-only app on your Mac.
Javascript programs are implicitly open source, so just use open source programs that use a multiplatform framework like Qt. Problem solved.
I'm not going to waste my time "optimizing" a goddamn web page intended for a real computer just because some crappy little spyware device has a crappy, underpowered browser with a vastly inferior input method.
As a user of a "real computer", I have no problems with this. However, stop using my "real computer" as an excuse to require my browser run your needless javascript.
Personally I think that it make sense to make things where's it's most efficient and from those who are best at it.
It does but I also think all nations should strive to be self-sustaining.
Why is Syria and Iran worse than Iraq and Saudi-Arabia? Isn't it simply because they aren't US allies strategically?
oh this is embarrassing, I wrote Syria when I means Saudi-Arabia. Anyway, I think any nation that's being propped up by simply extracting oil should be cut off because they aren't doing the world any favors by extracting it at all! We need to move to electric cars charged using solar/wind/nuclear/etc and use bioplastics instead of garbage plastic that cakes our oceans.
How would our own leaders deal with it if we tried to force them out?
by "them" do you mean our own leader? we try to force them out on every election but if you mean a violent revolution, it would be lots of cops and the army if needed.
There are no KKK in Pakistan or Afghanistan though are there?
that's besides the point! this was a hypothetical situation to start with and i'm choosing their hypothetical targets.:P
I'm just born here and forced into the system by birth. What kind of shitty contract is that? I want out of it.
it's less of a problem for the US since it's so large and in the front-end right now you can be very self-reliable.
that's something i would like to see and would pay for instead of global exploitation and unnecessary dependency that props up nations like syria.
KKK is just fine
i'm certain that people from pakistan and afghanistan would disagree.
I get your point, getting rid of trash may be nice. Out in reality chances are their families and friends and so on risk being bombed too I guess. Fair?
absolutely. there should be a price to associate with evil and some people might actually start shunning these bastards like they should have been doing already.
you need to preserve your negative freedoms, you're one of the very few nations which actually kinda have them
This is true if favorable laws aren't viewed as a good and individual politicians as the private owners of the legislative gateway.
No, it isn't true "if" you view something some way; that's how capitalism is defined.
Which part of the definition says favorable bills to be voted into law (aka favorable laws) can't be a good? Bills aren't part of the state until they are passed into law and politicians are individuals first and part of the state second. Anyway, like I said before, I live in the real world where economic theory meets reality.
You can also simply go to mandatory public financing of campaigns,
Indeed, this would be an excellent option.
now, instead of private money influencing elections, you have a self-perpetuating political class.
True but there there will actually be a variety of political parties that are able to compete instead of the current monoparty system with caveats. The political party that manages to follow through on what they promise will be the one in power. It don't think it will be an instant fix but I think it will be an improvement of which the result will be a more representative government.
what corrupts government isn't a specific economic system, it is power
Sure but giving influence/power in exchange for money is capitalism, so even if they claim they are socialist/communist/etc state, they have turned into a capitalist state.
If Sanders were to come to power, either he'd be an ineffective court jester while other politicians continued their corrupt ways
That's a possibility but we won't know. So the question is how do we prevent blatant political corruption?
This hack cuts both ways: police can take control of people's drones and people can take control of police drones. Yep, that overpriced octocopter the cops bought can now be hijacked with ease.
I got a feeling this is going to get fixed for all the $1000+ drones.
The license (APL) is such that Google does not control the source code. Now that it's out, there's no going back. Microsoft's license on there other hand has some caveats.
Capitalism is defined as an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state. Paying money to politicians in order to get them to interfere in the economy is the opposite of capitalism.
This is true if favorable laws aren't viewed as a good and individual politicians as the private owners of the legislative gateway. However, I live in the real world and in the real world, favorable influence are bought and sold, be it indirect.
We could solve this in a number of ways like making political donations anonymous to the recipient. However, a better way would to make donations into a shared pool for all candidates. Unsurprisingly, when they tried these measures, corporate donations ended.
it's capitalism all the way down and if you disagree then you are obviously ignorant of the truth, lying or stupid.
I forgot to include "disingenuous" and "deluded" in that list, one of which applies to you because you certainly aren't ignorant, lying or stupid.
misrepresenting the corporate kleptocracy and the politicians they buy it as "capitalist".
Why have you applied an arbitrary restriction in your definition of a good? Just because it's illegal, technically legal or even intangible doesn't make it any less of a good. Everything is for sale in capitalism. Frankly, corrupted governments are the height of capitalism.
some of you are so stupid that you actually believe that Hillary is going to fight against Wall St and corporate influence on politics.
I wouldn't believe that for a second. The best way to predict people's future behavior is to look at their past behavior. Everything in the past says Hillary is going to keep the status quo or possibly steer it toward something worse. However, the past also says that Trump is going to steer us toward total ruination. I was hoping Mr. Sanders could steer the nation to a better path and I think that may happen if we can fix campaign financing.
TensorFlow is what everyone is using because it works well and it has a nice license to go with it. Besides, willingly becoming reliant on anything Microsoft makes is a devil's bargain.
What this teenager did was bring attention to a bug that never should have existed to start with. If they want to blame anyone, they should be blaming Apple for allowing it even be possible. But hey, they didn't hire cops for their intelligence. -_-
Shouldn't the free market solution be to inform everyone's who's account may be compromised and let the bank fail if everyone flees from it? I keep hearing about how great the free market is but never hear about entrenched systems practicing what they preach.
There is no capitalism in academic research. [...] Correct. Academic funding decisions are largely made by other academics themselves, by the US government, and by politicians. And that's where the problem is.
it's hilarious that you think politicians aren't tied to capitalism. who do you think pays for their campaigns? what do they do to get that money? it's capitalism all the way down and if you disagree then you are obviously ignorant of the truth, lying or stupid.
Slashdot Mirror
The line between the two is by no means bright. For example, is a discussion forum such as Slashdot a "page" or an "application"?
I disagree, it's quite clear. Slashdot's forums are clearly a page. That said, there should be tag that is a placeholder for content to retrieve until it's exposed. expand/collapse stuff can already be done using CSS.
if you change from offering one web application to offering five native applications, you end up having to compile, test, and deploy on all five platforms' stores
You don't need to use "stores" and with Qt you don't have to do anything but recompile. You don't even have to test for compatibility bullshit like webdev, so it's even easier. See, problem solved.
if you are really paranoid, you should probably use an iPhone, and not Android
wrong! if you are really paranoid, you shouldn't carry around something that could easily be described as the most sophisticated surveillance device that man has ever created.
There are plenty of web applications that could not be created without script
Absolutely, those are applications. I'm talking about web pages, the things that display information and you can navigate around.
And if you say those apps should be native instead of using the web platform, good luck running a Mac-only app on your Windows PC or a Windows-only app on your Mac.
Javascript programs are implicitly open source, so just use open source programs that use a multiplatform framework like Qt. Problem solved.
I'm not going to waste my time "optimizing" a goddamn web page intended for a real computer just because some crappy little spyware device has a crappy, underpowered browser with a vastly inferior input method.
As a user of a "real computer", I have no problems with this. However, stop using my "real computer" as an excuse to require my browser run your needless javascript.
So don't install apps that ask for unusual privileges. The security is there, but you have to participate if you want to benefit.
the perception of security is there. actual security, not so much.
Personally I think that it make sense to make things where's it's most efficient and from those who are best at it.
It does but I also think all nations should strive to be self-sustaining.
Why is Syria and Iran worse than Iraq and Saudi-Arabia? Isn't it simply because they aren't US allies strategically?
oh this is embarrassing, I wrote Syria when I means Saudi-Arabia. Anyway, I think any nation that's being propped up by simply extracting oil should be cut off because they aren't doing the world any favors by extracting it at all! We need to move to electric cars charged using solar/wind/nuclear/etc and use bioplastics instead of garbage plastic that cakes our oceans.
How would our own leaders deal with it if we tried to force them out?
by "them" do you mean our own leader? we try to force them out on every election but if you mean a violent revolution, it would be lots of cops and the army if needed.
There are no KKK in Pakistan or Afghanistan though are there?
that's besides the point! this was a hypothetical situation to start with and i'm choosing their hypothetical targets. :P
I'm just born here and forced into the system by birth. What kind of shitty contract is that? I want out of it.
The grass is always greener on the other side. ;)
it's less of a problem for the US since it's so large and in the front-end right now you can be very self-reliable.
that's something i would like to see and would pay for instead of global exploitation and unnecessary dependency that props up nations like syria.
KKK is just fine
i'm certain that people from pakistan and afghanistan would disagree.
I get your point, getting rid of trash may be nice. Out in reality chances are their families and friends and so on risk being bombed too I guess. Fair?
absolutely. there should be a price to associate with evil and some people might actually start shunning these bastards like they should have been doing already.
you need to preserve your negative freedoms, you're one of the very few nations which actually kinda have them
and here i thought you didn't like us. ;)
* Sanctions against the USA.
So... no more H1-Bs, outsourcing and the price of oil would increase? DO WANT!
* Pakistan and Afghans drones which bombed in the other direction
I hope they would go after the evil execs of companies or maybe the KKK. Getting it wrong sucks but thems the breaks.
* Got invaded to have the ruling government replaced by something else, possibly nothing.
Sounds like that would finally be enough to get people to fight for their rights instead of accepting the status quo!
* Other nations trying to influence the election outcome
So far all they have done is exposed wrongdoing within our government. That's something I like!
I gotta say, it seems like it could be worse.
no because of a lack of security.
And people wonder why I don't have a "smart"phone.
This is true if favorable laws aren't viewed as a good and individual politicians as the private owners of the legislative gateway.
No, it isn't true "if" you view something some way; that's how capitalism is defined.
Which part of the definition says favorable bills to be voted into law (aka favorable laws) can't be a good? Bills aren't part of the state until they are passed into law and politicians are individuals first and part of the state second. Anyway, like I said before, I live in the real world where economic theory meets reality.
You can also simply go to mandatory public financing of campaigns,
Indeed, this would be an excellent option.
now, instead of private money influencing elections, you have a self-perpetuating political class.
True but there there will actually be a variety of political parties that are able to compete instead of the current monoparty system with caveats. The political party that manages to follow through on what they promise will be the one in power. It don't think it will be an instant fix but I think it will be an improvement of which the result will be a more representative government.
what corrupts government isn't a specific economic system, it is power
Sure but giving influence/power in exchange for money is capitalism, so even if they claim they are socialist/communist/etc state, they have turned into a capitalist state.
If Sanders were to come to power, either he'd be an ineffective court jester while other politicians continued their corrupt ways
That's a possibility but we won't know. So the question is how do we prevent blatant political corruption?
This hack cuts both ways: police can take control of people's drones and people can take control of police drones. Yep, that overpriced octocopter the cops bought can now be hijacked with ease.
I got a feeling this is going to get fixed for all the $1000+ drones.
The license (APL) is such that Google does not control the source code. Now that it's out, there's no going back. Microsoft's license on there other hand has some caveats.
The question though is "everyone" that you refer to an academic or niche machine learning user aka not the "Mainstream".
You are right, that is the question. The answer is that it's much more than academics or niche users... and it's for the same reasons.
Capitalism is defined as an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
Paying money to politicians in order to get them to interfere in the economy is the opposite of capitalism.
This is true if favorable laws aren't viewed as a good and individual politicians as the private owners of the legislative gateway. However, I live in the real world and in the real world, favorable influence are bought and sold, be it indirect.
We could solve this in a number of ways like making political donations anonymous to the recipient. However, a better way would to make donations into a shared pool for all candidates. Unsurprisingly, when they tried these measures, corporate donations ended.
it's capitalism all the way down and if you disagree then you are obviously ignorant of the truth, lying or stupid.
I forgot to include "disingenuous" and "deluded" in that list, one of which applies to you because you certainly aren't ignorant, lying or stupid.
misrepresenting the corporate kleptocracy and the politicians they buy it as "capitalist".
Why have you applied an arbitrary restriction in your definition of a good? Just because it's illegal, technically legal or even intangible doesn't make it any less of a good. Everything is for sale in capitalism. Frankly, corrupted governments are the height of capitalism.
some of you are so stupid that you actually believe that Hillary is going to fight against Wall St and corporate influence on politics.
I wouldn't believe that for a second. The best way to predict people's future behavior is to look at their past behavior. Everything in the past says Hillary is going to keep the status quo or possibly steer it toward something worse. However, the past also says that Trump is going to steer us toward total ruination. I was hoping Mr. Sanders could steer the nation to a better path and I think that may happen if we can fix campaign financing.
if you want to make racist twitterbots. ;)
On their 10th anniversary, their front page had things you wanted to read about and things you cared about: conspiracies!
9/11 Revisited: Scientific and Ethical Questions
September 11th Revisited - Were explosives used?
;)
TensorFlow is what everyone is using because it works well and it has a nice license to go with it. Besides, willingly becoming reliant on anything Microsoft makes is a devil's bargain.
What this teenager did was bring attention to a bug that never should have existed to start with. If they want to blame anyone, they should be blaming Apple for allowing it even be possible. But hey, they didn't hire cops for their intelligence. -_-
You know it's bad when you have to try and coax people into using your product.
Shouldn't the free market solution be to inform everyone's who's account may be compromised and let the bank fail if everyone flees from it? I keep hearing about how great the free market is but never hear about entrenched systems practicing what they preach.
There is no capitalism in academic research.
[...]
Correct. Academic funding decisions are largely made by other academics themselves, by the US government, and by politicians. And that's where the problem is.
it's hilarious that you think politicians aren't tied to capitalism. who do you think pays for their campaigns? what do they do to get that money? it's capitalism all the way down and if you disagree then you are obviously ignorant of the truth, lying or stupid.
In all, more than 50 gigabits of data were relayed over the past 15 months
sounds like they are stuck on a data plan contract with AT&T. ;)
The solar power part is nice and all but best part is that now I can finally throw stones inside my glass house! ;)
That is a nod to Chinese consumers' growing desire for products from the West, which they perceive as often being of better quality.
Consumers in the West have the same perception! When do we refer to it as a global consensus?