Why are you so excited about raising the government's revenue. Any of you think this 'trickle-down economics' is gonna drop any 100 dollar bills in your pockets?
Dude, if any country in the next 10 years lets you keep 10% of what you earn, they'll be bombed and invaded for being a tax haven and refusing to pay their 'fair share' if Obama has his way.
he seems like he is honestly trying to run the government in a fiscally responsible way.
Were you asleep while they passed the latest budget and before that the 850 billion dollar stimulus package? Do you know how deep your country is in debt because of this?
Are you blind, deaf or don't like reading the news?
You forget that bailouts are supplied to hand picked corporations with connections in Washington and an increase of taxes will hurt ALL businesses. Including the ones which aren't blessed with government subsidies. They will fail, leaving you with useless hunks of losses kept on life support with, guess what, your money.
Come to think of it, I would be eager to place a bet on the existances of nice little loopholes and special provisions for Goldman Sachs, GM and other government sweethearts once this latest pillaging is finished.
Ahhh naive 'progressives'. Still thinking the State got _THEIR_ back. Tsc, tsc, tsc.
You suppport a parasitic state with a big chunk of your income, and not happy with that you want people around the world to be equally enslaved as you are, under risk of being invaded by your slave army.
Taxes don't feed 'local populations'. Taxes feed bureaucrats and their friends.
Absolutely! That way those laws that mandate people of certain ages be in school can be used to generate a boatload of money!
Laws that mandate people of certain ages to be in school are precisely the type of infringement of liberty that libertarians types who favor government-free education would also throw out.
Further, I would like to point that we had public schools when we were at the top of the science/math/technology realm.
Since before government took over education it was PRIVATE, it is pointing out the obvious that since education has been managed by bureaucrats, its quality has steadily declined.
That is exactly what any person familiar with private vs. public ownership would expect to happen.
Neither side is guilt free on this. The far left end has promoted that "trophy for everyone" crap and "no bullying contracts" and other such innane bullshit. The far right has pushed for taking all the funding away, teaching religion as science, and Reagan's infamous Ketchup is a vegetable plan.
Sides have nothing to do with it, this Left/Right political spectrum is only useful in political discourse when its two horses debating with each other.
Its about freedom of choice and the lack thereof. Both the -> and the Both situations would still incur unacceptable government control of what is taught and how things are run, since as the old adage goes, who pays the fiddler calls the tune.
Um, only if you ignore history. In Korea and Iraq, the other guys fired the first shot. Iraq 2 would not have happened had we not been involved in Iraq 1.
Fire the first shot at who? Americans? Or Koreans and Kuwaitis?
Well, that's stupid. The only thing insane about Bush's economic policies was that he foolishly thought that free trade would engender good will around the world. He's like the Jimmy Carter of trade, just optimistic but ultimately dumb.
I meant FDR, not Bush.
The USA will not get its act together until it kicks out foreign products, and gets out of most of the alliances it is in. Let everyone get the bomb, then duck behind national missile defense and let the rest of the world blow itself up.
Kicking out foreign products? Is that some radical new idea of fixing the trade deficit? No trade? What is that supposed to accomplish?
Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Iraq[2], Kosovo, Afghanistan, the Confederate States. I WIN! W00t!
No, seriously, Next time, elect a president that isn't so desperate to enter a war that he's craving to 'employ' the millions of Americans he put in the street with his insane economic policies, so they can be shot and blown up in foxholes. That way he can't take every step to make sure they attack you and he gets his excuse.
That is, he believes every computer user is enough of a hacker to compile and run all the software they will ever need.
Yes! I mean, what the fuck is he thinking?! I'm not a damned hacker who can type a document in OpenOffice and save it to - of ALL PLACES - my LOCAL machine!
This man should have a haircut and shave mandated by law enforcement!
So you would favor mandated dog tags with your latest HIV bloodwork on all nightclubs? Government enforced eugenics? Warantless wiretapping to 'save' citizens from 'terrorism'?
What an insane argument. By the same logic you could denonce the fact that thoughts are 'private', so this constitutes a danger of people planning and executing murder.
Yes, your record should be private. It's far, far easier to control access to an electronic chart than a paper one.
Agreed.
What I don't get is why do we need the Senate to pass a law for something private hospitals can perfectly do on their own, if it is as economical as you argue.
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It doesn't matter if he cuts taxes if he's spending MORE! He's just shifting a much higher tax burden to future generations.
TANSTAAFL
Why are you so excited about raising the government's revenue. Any of you think this 'trickle-down economics' is gonna drop any 100 dollar bills in your pockets?
I understand. We should allow companies to hold the government and its citizens hostage. Gotcha.
You're just a little bit confused about who holds the gun in that little moronic analogy.
What? Are you kidding?
Dude, if any country in the next 10 years lets you keep 10% of what you earn, they'll be bombed and invaded for being a tax haven and refusing to pay their 'fair share' if Obama has his way.
he seems like he is honestly trying to run the government in a fiscally responsible way.
Were you asleep while they passed the latest budget and before that the 850 billion dollar stimulus package? Do you know how deep your country is in debt because of this?
Are you blind, deaf or don't like reading the news?
You forget that bailouts are supplied to hand picked corporations with connections in Washington and an increase of taxes will hurt ALL businesses. Including the ones which aren't blessed with government subsidies. They will fail, leaving you with useless hunks of losses kept on life support with, guess what, your money.
Come to think of it, I would be eager to place a bet on the existances of nice little loopholes and special provisions for Goldman Sachs, GM and other government sweethearts once this latest pillaging is finished.
Ahhh naive 'progressives'. Still thinking the State got _THEIR_ back. Tsc, tsc, tsc.
Wow. You are completely nuts.
You suppport a parasitic state with a big chunk of your income, and not happy with that you want people around the world to be equally enslaved as you are, under risk of being invaded by your slave army.
Taxes don't feed 'local populations'. Taxes feed bureaucrats and their friends.
Absolutely! That way those laws that mandate people of certain ages be in school can be used to generate a boatload of money!
Laws that mandate people of certain ages to be in school are precisely the type of infringement of liberty that libertarians types who favor government-free education would also throw out.
Further, I would like to point that we had public schools when we were at the top of the science/math/technology realm.
Since before government took over education it was PRIVATE, it is pointing out the obvious that since education has been managed by bureaucrats, its quality has steadily declined.
That is exactly what any person familiar with private vs. public ownership would expect to happen.
Neither side is guilt free on this. The far left end has promoted that "trophy for everyone" crap and "no bullying contracts" and other such innane bullshit. The far right has pushed for taking all the funding away, teaching religion as science, and Reagan's infamous Ketchup is a vegetable plan.
Sides have nothing to do with it, this Left/Right political spectrum is only useful in political discourse when its two horses debating with each other.
Its about freedom of choice and the lack thereof. Both the -> and the Both situations would still incur unacceptable government control of what is taught and how things are run, since as the old adage goes, who pays the fiddler calls the tune.
I think this not-switching thing won't happen. 7 is worlds better than that steaming pile o'Vista.
It's actually fast, as crazy as this sounds.
Yes yes. I suppose Obama paid for all that Tamiflu out of his own lined pockets...
Oh... wait...
Seriously, folks, where are the adults?
In private sector jobs, paying for bailouts, TARP and now this bullshit.
I remember last time the national security officials were blabbering about WMDs in a Middle Eastern country. Didn't end well. Actually didn't end yet.
Forgive me for being a little skeptic.
I wish North Korea would send all their little choreography dancing midgets to level the UN building to the ground.
Um, only if you ignore history. In Korea and Iraq, the other guys fired the first shot. Iraq 2 would not have happened had we not been involved in Iraq 1.
Fire the first shot at who? Americans? Or Koreans and Kuwaitis?
Well, that's stupid. The only thing insane about Bush's economic policies was that he foolishly thought that free trade would engender good will around the world. He's like the Jimmy Carter of trade, just optimistic but ultimately dumb.
I meant FDR, not Bush.
The USA will not get its act together until it kicks out foreign products, and gets out of most of the alliances it is in. Let everyone get the bomb, then duck behind national missile defense and let the rest of the world blow itself up.
Kicking out foreign products? Is that some radical new idea of fixing the trade deficit? No trade? What is that supposed to accomplish?
Vietnam, Korea, Iraq, Iraq[2], Kosovo, Afghanistan, the Confederate States. I WIN! W00t!
No, seriously, Next time, elect a president that isn't so desperate to enter a war that he's craving to 'employ' the millions of Americans he put in the street with his insane economic policies, so they can be shot and blown up in foxholes. That way he can't take every step to make sure they attack you and he gets his excuse.
The US has 'gone offensive' enough for some good 80 years. Just please... Stop.
That is, he believes every computer user is enough of a hacker to compile and run all the software they will ever need.
Yes! I mean, what the fuck is he thinking?! I'm not a damned hacker who can type a document in OpenOffice and save it to - of ALL PLACES - my LOCAL machine!
This man should have a haircut and shave mandated by law enforcement!
Talk about fallacies...
Arghh!!!
So you would favor mandated dog tags with your latest HIV bloodwork on all nightclubs? Government enforced eugenics? Warantless wiretapping to 'save' citizens from 'terrorism'?
What an insane argument. By the same logic you could denonce the fact that thoughts are 'private', so this constitutes a danger of people planning and executing murder.
Privacy kills... Jesus...
Yes, your record should be private. It's far, far easier to control access to an electronic chart than a paper one.
Agreed.
What I don't get is why do we need the Senate to pass a law for something private hospitals can perfectly do on their own, if it is as economical as you argue.
Censorship effect. When everybody is on gov't broadband for the zero cost, it will be easier to centralize control over what they get to see.
"I want all prices to go down, except the price for what I sell, which I want to go up!"
Now imagine that being wanted by everyone. Welcome to the democratic interventionist state headed for socialism and poverty.
I'm sure they won't block the URLs of activist groups who criticize the government.
http://www.campaignforliberty.com *enter*
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I hope no mod sees this. I see a big karma hit headin our way. :D
Whoosh. :)