Couldn't have put that better myself. D.A. doesn't seem to live (or work) in the real world. Without corporate vendor support Linux wouldn't retain much traction in the server market either. Customers buy Linux Server solutions because vendors ( HP, IBM, Sun, etc ) test it, supply drivers and management/health-check tools ( if necessary ) and certify the product on their systems. This gives customers a lot of confidence that what they buy is going to work and is supportable.
And how many of those technologies are production ready? How many are developed and stable enough to deserve a v1.x moniker?
When they are fully integrated with KDE/Gnome, and are as ubiquitous in the distro's as KDE or Gnome themselves, or Apache, or MySQL; then you can justifiably say "Now we have....", but not before.
I still use Word (although Pages is coming on strong and if I could get EndNote compatibility, I'd switch entirely)
Yes, Pages does have a lot going for it and seems to do a very decent job of importing Word docs I've thrown at it with a few exceptions. For example it doesn't support image files inside table cells and strips the images out of the document. The lack of that has made it impossible for me to use it on projects where I receive MS Word files generated by other people. Almost everyone seems to use that feature to (at the very least) position their company logo where they want it.
Spreadsheet 2000 is certainly a different concept in the realm of spreadsheets
Looks like a very innovative alternative to traditional spreadsheets. Unfortunately it appears not to scale.... The whole idea of SS2000 was to dramatically simplify the construction of simple spreadsheets. Unfortunately while it likely met that goal, the same features made more complex spreadsheets extremely difficult to work with. For instance, trying to debug a complex formula in Excel simply requires the user to click on the cell and read the formula. The same task in SS2000 may be extremely difficult, the formula filling several pages, or alternately being built several layers deep (compounds of compounds) so that there is no single view of the formula.
Kudos to the folks who worked on it though for being brave enough to try something different.
Calgoo seems like a brilliant solution... right up to the point where you agree to the EULA. Basically you agree to them delivering targeted adverts in Calgoo along with your calendar data. You agree to them withdrawing the service at any time, for any reason, with no regard or responsibility for your calendar data. You also acknowledge that they (on request) will give any and all information they have on you to any legal body requesting it, and that includes the contents of your calendars. And lastly, they state you're only allowed to use it for personal use not business.
And it looked so promising.
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Oh yeah, so they are. I never even bothered to check. Well that certainly changes things. Though about two years ago I stopped buying CDs and only buy from iTMS now, so I'd still loose all that.
Or perhaps trains or trams. Do away with the need to have some part of the train/tram in connection with a live electrical connector and there might be speed, maintenance and possibly noise benefits to future designs. It's certainly an interesting area for research.
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Another reason why Zune is going to be a flop. Staggering numbers of people that have iPods store their music in iTunes. Zune doesn't support importing protected AAC files, so if you've brought a few hundred tracks from Apple's Music Store and spent several weeks ripping your CD collection into iTunes (using protected AAC) then just how p*ssed are you going to be to discover that you have to reproduce all that hard work, time and money. Might as well just stick with the iPod.
I think you missed the point of my post. RH are striking back at Oracle by claiming that Oracle don't support clustering software, which in an Oracle 10g environment is redundant, because Oracle 10g already has that functionality built in.
I will stick with Redhat supporting ALL of my RHEL servers and Oracle support my 10g RAC
That is not the way CIO's think, quite the opposite in fact.
I've done a fair amount of Redhat installations in recent years. All in Enterprise settings, and 90% of them to support environments that run Oracle. It's the Enterprise customers that are most likely to take out support contracts with both Oracle and Redhat, as they can afford to. But in my experience customers prefer to have a single point of contact for support where they can get it. It simplifies call logging and escalation procedures.
Up till now these customers have to go to Oracle for their support, and Redhat for the other. And often the different support departments bun fight by finger pointing at each other until the customer progresses the problem where one vendor owns up and does something about it. These customers are going to look very favorably to Oracle to provide a single source of support. It makes life a lot easier. This is where Redhat should be very worried.
*I'm referring to the config.sub and config.guess files included for configure scripts. The "developer" refuses to add new operating systems to the file based on his personal opinion. He also removes operating systems so the file is small, however, it supports many embedded variants of linux. Go figure.
Fortunately its OSS, so if his intransigence becomes enough of a headache for people, that developer will find his project conveniently forked, as happened to XFree86.
I don't think Redhat get it. From the article you linked to:
Q: Does Oracle's announcement include support for the Red Hat Application Stack, JBoss, Hibernate, Red Hat GFS, Red Hat Cluster Suite, Red Hat Directory Server, or Red Hat Certificate System? No.
They seem to conveniently ignore the fact that with Oracle 10g RAC, Red Hat GFS, Red Hat Cluster Suite are irrelevant. 10g's built in cluster software (CRS) and filesystem (ASM) do away with the need for vendor clustering. All you need is a shared SAN disk farm presenting raw data disks to all cluster nodes and let Oracle handle the rest. As for the Red Hat Directory Server, how is that supposed to play a part in an Oracle solution? It doesn't.
This announcement puts Redhat in a very weak position. And if Oracle gain significant mind share with this, they could just as easily switch to something like Ubuntu Server sometime in the future and further marginalize Redhat.
Did you get out of the bed on the wrong side this morning? Can't believe you wasted your time on that ad hominem rant. You obviously have no clue why people who own Mac's and actually use them in anger like them so much. And you never will until you loose that chip on your shoulder.
I've been working on multi-vendor commercial Unix systems for 16 years, and OSX is as good a Unix implementation as any of them. Not that Apple actually claim it's "Unix". In their online material they always claim it's "unix like" or "unix based". Besides no two "Unix" implementations are ever the same anyway. Every vendor want's to do things slightly differently to "add value", just like Linux. I don't see you having kittens about people referring to "Linux" when every distro makes theirs different from the others. Even the kernels get configured differently with different collections of patches bundled, and built with different complier options. They're all Linux based, or Linux like, but there's no such thing as a standard Linux recognised by everyone.
Totally agree its dead easy. And if you're running Windows XP or Linux in a Parallels VM it works there too.
Add to that the slick two-finger scrolling on the trackpad and it's incredibly easy and powerful combination. If I find I absolutely have to have a left+right click mouse experience (like when I'm playing WoW) then the wireless mighty mouse fills the gap for me perfectly.
I've also had chance to use both. I've got Ubuntu 6.06 running in Parallels on my MacBook Pro. I also have a 16 year history on commercial Unix systems, and have tracked the progress of Linux distributions from the outset.
Personally I think that while Ubuntu is by far the best Linux implementation I've ever come across, it's still a way to go yet to match the power and ease of use of OSX. Having said that it depends what you want to do with it. As a home system, to be used for accessing the internet, multi-media content and managing music, photos, play DVD's etc, OSX whoops anything the Linux distributions have to offer. Even getting Ubuntu setup to do all this is too complex for your average user. For a power user Ubuntu is a very good choice. Synaptic is a fantastic tool for discovering apps to meet your needs and getting hold of them in a hurry. For example I recently had a need to try and recreate an application crash being caused by a commercial port scanner and the potential effectiveness of using FireHOL to set up stateful packet inspection to defeat it. I needed some apps to bash the system with in a hurry and Synaptic quickly gave me access to pre-built versions of nmap, isic, icmpsic, tcpsic, hping3 and the daddy of them all, Nessus. I could not have done that on OSX nearly as effectively.
EasyUbuntu is not all that though. I'm up to date with the latest codecs etc, but it still has problems. For example I just did a test. I randomly selected three.wmv files from my account that friends have sent me -- you know the type; jokes ads, film previews, etc. Nautilus hinted that it could handle two of them as is showed correct thumbnails of the contents, but on clicking to run them Totem crashed within seconds. The third it tried to open then sat there doing nothing. No errors, it just wouldn't play. I've got Gxine installed and it did a much better job. It played one ok, the second also played but the frame rate was pretty bad, but it barfed on the third with a "No demuxer found - stream format not recognised" error. Needless to say that OSX has no problem with any of these with (the Microsoft approved) Flip4Mac plugin for Quicktime installed.
The.mov experience was pretty much the same. Two played fine, but the frame rate was terrible on the third. Gxine was no better, but in this case VLC saved the day and ran it properly. But I had to try 3 players to get a decent experience! That's not the sort of thing I would expect Joe Public to have to contend with, especially as Totem (the standard Ubuntu player) is the worst of them all, and Jo Public wouldn't even know about the existence of the others without having a geek friend to help out.
* The wireless setup is not straightforward, and if you're not used to it can be a bit confusing.
You have got to be joking? OSX's network setup is the most intuitive I've seen in my career. And I use it in anger every day. I visit loads of different customer sites and can jump from network to network to network in seconds. I've 46 different network profiles configured and can switch between them using the Apple-->Location menu without even having to leave the desktop, or open up System Preferences. Many of them are Wireless networks and DHCP "just works". Often I don't even bother changing profiles unless I need specific proxy settings for the network I'm joining.
Sorry to disappoint you but the industry has been doing this (on the sly) for years. The earliest example I can personally think of is back in the late 1980's. The physical upgrade from a VAX 11/730 to an 11/750 was just a new microcode floppy with the NOP's taken out. The 11/730 was effectively a 'restricted' 11/750. Apparently this was a technique that Digital copied from IBM, so IBM must have been doing it even earlier.
I'd settle for an ADSL line that can deliver on current speeds. I've an 8Mbps link, but due to attenuation problems ( I'm 3Km from the exchange ) I've had to get my ISP to tweak the frequency range, cap my training speed to 4Mbps and change the Path Mode from Fast ( the default ) to Interleaved. Only with this combination do I get weeks of uninterrupted service, and it's half the speed I'm paying for.
It would be if I had an ADSL modem where I could tune all this lot from my end. Every time there's a serious outage at the Exchange, some or all of these settings get lost and I have to spend hours on the phone fighting to get to a 3rd level support guy who can restore my settings for me. It's a pain. Anyone know if this is even possible?
But the attacks would fail for a number of reasons. First and foremost because the attacks are targeted at Windows not Linux or OS X. Secondly OS X has a very capable built in Firewall thats always on. I can't speak for Linux because that will be up to the person who built it. Though my default Ubuntu 6.06 installation had no firewall enabled at install time, nor any option to configure or enable one before you get onto the internet and download the bits with synaptic.
I've been a Star Trek fan all my life and don't think there has been a series released that I've not watched at least twice. But I was so disgusted with the hatchet job they did at the end of Enterprise that it turned me off to the whole franchise. Unless this latest film turns out to be a miracle of wit, cunning and WOW, I doubt very much if I'll even give it the time of day.
Enterprise started of weak, and I've never been a fan of Scott Bakula. But it did get better, a lot better, and by the end I was well and truly hooked. I'll never forgive them for what they did to that series. It was disgusting. I'll never go back to that, especially now that BSG has shown us how it should be done!
Most people who visit slashdot are from the USA, the richest country in the world, with the most disposable income per head of population. And the prices discussed were in $'s which underscores my point. Who's the moron now !
Worse. Imagine a 'gas station' of the future with a dozen 'pumps' hammering away
On the contrary, I don't think the 'gas station' will even exist if cars like this became popular. Not once the supermarket chains get in on the act. Imagine every car parking spot in a supermarket parking lot equipped with a power socket. Or every multi-story car park in every shopping centre. Even your local pub or bar could get in on the act. Gas stations would become a thing of the past because they wouldn't get enough business.
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Couldn't have put that better myself. D.A. doesn't seem to live (or work) in the real world. Without corporate vendor support Linux wouldn't retain much traction in the server market either. Customers buy Linux Server solutions because vendors ( HP, IBM, Sun, etc ) test it, supply drivers and management/health-check tools ( if necessary ) and certify the product on their systems. This gives customers a lot of confidence that what they buy is going to work and is supportable.
And how many of those technologies are production ready? How many are developed and stable enough to deserve a v1.x moniker?
When they are fully integrated with KDE/Gnome, and are as ubiquitous in the distro's as KDE or Gnome themselves, or Apache, or MySQL; then you can justifiably say "Now we have
Yes, Pages does have a lot going for it and seems to do a very decent job of importing Word docs I've thrown at it with a few exceptions. For example it doesn't support image files inside table cells and strips the images out of the document. The lack of that has made it impossible for me to use it on projects where I receive MS Word files generated by other people. Almost everyone seems to use that feature to (at the very least) position their company logo where they want it.
Looks like a very innovative alternative to traditional spreadsheets. Unfortunately it appears not to scale....
The whole idea of SS2000 was to dramatically simplify the construction of simple spreadsheets. Unfortunately while it likely met that goal, the same features made more complex spreadsheets extremely difficult to work with. For instance, trying to debug a complex formula in Excel simply requires the user to click on the cell and read the formula. The same task in SS2000 may be extremely difficult, the formula filling several pages, or alternately being built several layers deep (compounds of compounds) so that there is no single view of the formula.
Kudos to the folks who worked on it though for being brave enough to try something different.
No support for Mac OS X client apps then?
Calgoo seems like a brilliant solution
And it looked so promising.
Oh yeah, so they are. I never even bothered to check. Well that certainly changes things. Though about two years ago I stopped buying CDs and only buy from iTMS now, so I'd still loose all that.
Or perhaps trains or trams. Do away with the need to have some part of the train/tram in connection with a live electrical connector and there might be speed, maintenance and possibly noise benefits to future designs. It's certainly an interesting area for research.
Another reason why Zune is going to be a flop. Staggering numbers of people that have iPods store their music in iTunes. Zune doesn't support importing protected AAC files, so if you've brought a few hundred tracks from Apple's Music Store and spent several weeks ripping your CD collection into iTunes (using protected AAC) then just how p*ssed are you going to be to discover that you have to reproduce all that hard work, time and money. Might as well just stick with the iPod.
I think you missed the point of my post. RH are striking back at Oracle by claiming that Oracle don't support clustering software, which in an Oracle 10g environment is redundant, because Oracle 10g already has that functionality built in.
That is not the way CIO's think, quite the opposite in fact.
I've done a fair amount of Redhat installations in recent years. All in Enterprise settings, and 90% of them to support environments that run Oracle. It's the Enterprise customers that are most likely to take out support contracts with both Oracle and Redhat, as they can afford to. But in my experience customers prefer to have a single point of contact for support where they can get it. It simplifies call logging and escalation procedures.
Up till now these customers have to go to Oracle for their support, and Redhat for the other. And often the different support departments bun fight by finger pointing at each other until the customer progresses the problem where one vendor owns up and does something about it. These customers are going to look very favorably to Oracle to provide a single source of support. It makes life a lot easier. This is where Redhat should be very worried.
Fortunately its OSS, so if his intransigence becomes enough of a headache for people, that developer will find his project conveniently forked, as happened to XFree86.
I don't think Redhat get it. From the article you linked to:
They seem to conveniently ignore the fact that with Oracle 10g RAC, Red Hat GFS, Red Hat Cluster Suite are irrelevant. 10g's built in cluster software (CRS) and filesystem (ASM) do away with the need for vendor clustering. All you need is a shared SAN disk farm presenting raw data disks to all cluster nodes and let Oracle handle the rest. As for the Red Hat Directory Server, how is that supposed to play a part in an Oracle solution? It doesn't.
This announcement puts Redhat in a very weak position. And if Oracle gain significant mind share with this, they could just as easily switch to something like Ubuntu Server sometime in the future and further marginalize Redhat.
How do you know he didn't submit a bunch ?
It doesn't cover the desktop. See -- http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/docs/UNIX03_Ce
The UNIX 03 Product Standard is built out of the following subsidiary Product Standards:
And as both the desktop and server versions of OSX share the same kernel, libraries, etc, your point is moot.
Denial, isn't a river in Egypt. You've ad hominem coming out of your ears pal.
Did you get out of the bed on the wrong side this morning? Can't believe you wasted your time on that ad hominem rant. You obviously have no clue why people who own Mac's and actually use them in anger like them so much. And you never will until you loose that chip on your shoulder.
I've been working on multi-vendor commercial Unix systems for 16 years, and OSX is as good a Unix implementation as any of them. Not that Apple actually claim it's "Unix". In their online material they always claim it's "unix like" or "unix based". Besides no two "Unix" implementations are ever the same anyway. Every vendor want's to do things slightly differently to "add value", just like Linux. I don't see you having kittens about people referring to "Linux" when every distro makes theirs different from the others. Even the kernels get configured differently with different collections of patches bundled, and built with different complier options. They're all Linux based, or Linux like, but there's no such thing as a standard Linux recognised by everyone.
Totally agree its dead easy. And if you're running Windows XP or Linux in a Parallels VM it works there too.
Add to that the slick two-finger scrolling on the trackpad and it's incredibly easy and powerful combination. If I find I absolutely have to have a left+right click mouse experience (like when I'm playing WoW) then the wireless mighty mouse fills the gap for me perfectly.
I've also had chance to use both. I've got Ubuntu 6.06 running in Parallels on my MacBook Pro. I also have a 16 year history on commercial Unix systems, and have tracked the progress of Linux distributions from the outset.
Personally I think that while Ubuntu is by far the best Linux implementation I've ever come across, it's still a way to go yet to match the power and ease of use of OSX. Having said that it depends what you want to do with it. As a home system, to be used for accessing the internet, multi-media content and managing music, photos, play DVD's etc, OSX whoops anything the Linux distributions have to offer. Even getting Ubuntu setup to do all this is too complex for your average user. For a power user Ubuntu is a very good choice. Synaptic is a fantastic tool for discovering apps to meet your needs and getting hold of them in a hurry. For example I recently had a need to try and recreate an application crash being caused by a commercial port scanner and the potential effectiveness of using FireHOL to set up stateful packet inspection to defeat it. I needed some apps to bash the system with in a hurry and Synaptic quickly gave me access to pre-built versions of nmap, isic, icmpsic, tcpsic, hping3 and the daddy of them all, Nessus. I could not have done that on OSX nearly as effectively.
EasyUbuntu is not all that though. I'm up to date with the latest codecs etc, but it still has problems. For example I just did a test. I randomly selected three
The
You have got to be joking? OSX's network setup is the most intuitive I've seen in my career. And I use it in anger every day. I visit loads of different customer sites and can jump from network to network to network in seconds. I've 46 different network profiles configured and can switch between them using the Apple-->Location menu without even having to leave the desktop, or open up System Preferences. Many of them are Wireless networks and DHCP "just works". Often I don't even bother changing profiles unless I need specific proxy settings for the network I'm joining.
I could go on, but I'm out of time.
And some people enjoy driving and old Skoda.
Sorry to disappoint you but the industry has been doing this (on the sly) for years. The earliest example I can personally think of is back in the late 1980's. The physical upgrade from a VAX 11/730 to an 11/750 was just a new microcode floppy with the NOP's taken out. The 11/730 was effectively a 'restricted' 11/750. Apparently this was a technique that Digital copied from IBM, so IBM must have been doing it even earlier.
I'd settle for an ADSL line that can deliver on current speeds. I've an 8Mbps link, but due to attenuation problems ( I'm 3Km from the exchange ) I've had to get my ISP to tweak the frequency range, cap my training speed to 4Mbps and change the Path Mode from Fast ( the default ) to Interleaved. Only with this combination do I get weeks of uninterrupted service, and it's half the speed I'm paying for.
It would be if I had an ADSL modem where I could tune all this lot from my end. Every time there's a serious outage at the Exchange, some or all of these settings get lost and I have to spend hours on the phone fighting to get to a 3rd level support guy who can restore my settings for me. It's a pain. Anyone know if this is even possible?
But the attacks would fail for a number of reasons. First and foremost because the attacks are targeted at Windows not Linux or OS X. Secondly OS X has a very capable built in Firewall thats always on. I can't speak for Linux because that will be up to the person who built it. Though my default Ubuntu 6.06 installation had no firewall enabled at install time, nor any option to configure or enable one before you get onto the internet and download the bits with synaptic.
I've been a Star Trek fan all my life and don't think there has been a series released that I've not watched at least twice. But I was so disgusted with the hatchet job they did at the end of Enterprise that it turned me off to the whole franchise. Unless this latest film turns out to be a miracle of wit, cunning and WOW, I doubt very much if I'll even give it the time of day.
Enterprise started of weak, and I've never been a fan of Scott Bakula. But it did get better, a lot better, and by the end I was well and truly hooked. I'll never forgive them for what they did to that series. It was disgusting. I'll never go back to that, especially now that BSG has shown us how it should be done!
Most people who visit slashdot are from the USA, the richest country in the world, with the most disposable income per head of population. And the prices discussed were in $'s which underscores my point. Who's the moron now !
On the contrary, I don't think the 'gas station' will even exist if cars like this became popular. Not once the supermarket chains get in on the act. Imagine every car parking spot in a supermarket parking lot equipped with a power socket. Or every multi-story car park in every shopping centre. Even your local pub or bar could get in on the act. Gas stations would become a thing of the past because they wouldn't get enough business.