Yes, because for two people to be married they MUST have children, or else they're not married. What, does the government come and take your marriage away if you don't have kids in x years or something? Funny, never heard of that happening...
You speak like "intellectual property" is just like physicaly property, and it belongs to someone and can be stolen. These are just assumptions, talking like they're some absolute truth doesn't make your argument any stronger.
You can't 'seize' ideas from unwilling persons, they still have it when you 'take' it. Information is not even remotely like physical property, get over it.
Not true. It's easy to write your web pages with object tags for the applets that will cause the appropriate JVM to be used, or trigger the install (as an ActiveX control, etc.) if necessary. This solves both the versioning problem and the deployment problem, which is mighty cool.
I am literally amazed that you're pointing this out in defense of java.. wow.
Your definition of "mighty cool" seems to correspond pretty well with my definition of "disgusting kludge"
Sun no longer has an operating system anyone gives a crap about (Solaris is all but dead, and the "Java Desktop System" (a.k.a. "Rebranded, proprietary-ized GNOME that has shit all to do with Java") is laughable. Linux has made Solaris obsolete, and if Sun thinks this "Java Desktop System" will be a contender they've got another thing coming.
Sun no longer has a language or development platform anyone gives a crap about, since the braindead decision to keep Java proprietary prevented its adoption by the only community that would even consider embracing it (open sourcers). I mean, the "FOSS" crowd is more interested in.NET technologies (see Mono, etc) than Java.... ?! Way to go sun, you've succeeded in being so braindead as to make linux nerds choose Microsoft technologies over your supposed "open" ones.
RIP Sun Microsystems. Killed by GNU/Linux and Microsoft, of all combinations....
I'm a grad level engineer and this is a big problem in engineering as well; all the engineers think their flavor of engineering is the most righteous and everybody else is stupid
You're right, that is immature and stupid.
.... Computer Science is obviously the best, all engineering is stupid.:)
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I think she overdrank because she headed the warning and didn't want to dehydrate.
Probably. It's just as important to tell noobs not to drink too much water as it is to tell them to drink enough.
Please learn what the hell MIDI even is before proposing that it gets reinvented, kthx.
(Hint: nothing is stopping you from doing everything you proposed right now, with MIDI exactly as it is - MIDI doesn't, and shouldn't (ever) have anything to do with sound creation)
I hope the "industry" does die. Maybe then actual musicians will get those dollars.
Go to shows, buy merch. This is good.
Do not pay for CDs from big record labels. What are they using those dollars for? Destroying the Internet last I checked. "Gee, thanks guys! Here's a bunch of my money!"
You want free software support for DRM? Are you insane, or do you just Not Get It(TM)? If you want someone else telling what you can and cannot do with your computer, you're using the wrong OS.
To many of those items in the pretty pictures would, on most X servers, give messages ranging from "extension 'this_weeks_version_of_something_like_render' not found" to "SIGSEGV".
Uhhhh... an app built against a brand-new windowing system wouldn't run at all. Yeah, that's much better compatibility. (??!?)
X has some serious problems. Too much functionality has been put into optional extensions
Why is this a problem? It's good design. Any X "replacement" that doesn't have extensions is a downgrade that will eventually become obsolete.
Not to mention that widgets and toolkits should be part of the server, not compiled into the client.
Says who? Things like FLTK etc. exist for a good reason; they're needed. There can be no Ultimate Widget Set, period. Yeah, it would be nice if the qt/gtk split didn't exist - oh well. It does; deal with it.
Let the widget set people work on the widget set(s), and the graphics backend people work on the graphics backend. Unless you have a real reason mashing them together is a good idea...
We've learned some things about windowing system design in the last 25 years.
I'm sure we probably have, but you havn't mentioned any.
Oh yeah, I fear business and accounting classes alright.... the risk of suicide from useless bullshit overload is a little too hight for my tastes. I fear that I might take the less painful route and end it all.
And non-geeks might fear computer science because it's too difficult, but I sure as hell don't fear that trivial nonsense because it's too difficult.
And yeah, I have actually taken accounting/business courses. I have a word for them, and that word is "bullshit".
IANAL, but I'm pretty damn sure this is completely impossible.
The court can not just take away your copyright because of some flaw with your license. They can invalidate the license, sure. But think about it for a second.. for the court to "declare" your GPL program public domain, they literally have to take your copyright away from you.
Taking your copyright away from you for a problem with your license? Yeah, right - good luck, Darl. *rolls eyes*
Yeah, just because Photoshop does it means the GIMP should, or else they're just being stupid and intentionally different. *rolls eyes*
Yeah, MDI.. good idea. "Hey, let's have a window, with a little kinda-window-manager in it, that manages little kinda-windows, and that whole big real window can run in a real window manager". Genius. That's not redundant and stupid or anything.
In either case you can arrange the 'sub-windows' however you want.. what exactly is the benefit of having a big, stupid box around them all?
ah, good old e.themes.org. You're absolutely right; there was a community built around themes.org, just dedicated to making awesome themes.
That little bar to the left with the top 5 downloaded themes was about the biggest motivating factor I've ever had for a project. Just having your theme up there for a few days felt really good.... somebody actually used your theme!
Does this exist anymore? Why isn't there, say, a comparable GNOME themeing community? Alot of the E nerds went to GNOME after E17 failed to materialise in any sane amount of time, you'd think they'd be themeing..
I, for one, am still looking forward to E17, after all this time.
GNOME going in the direction of being totally based on M$.NET nonsense, or Enlightenment, heading towards a solid GUI of hardware accelerated GL goodness (far before apple/ripped off/ the idea I might add)...
Frankly, still noone has convinced me I need a "desktop environment" (despite the fact that I run GNOME).
What does it offer? Nautilus sitting in the background and eating up resources doing nothing in parcicular? A panel? Gee, sweet. Definatley worth the hundreds of megs of code.
Enjoy. The linux-audio-dev list also contains links to things I've worked on, and info/screenies/discussion on my current as-yet-unreleased project. But since you obviously want to just steal my code and contribute nothing back, I don't think I even want you to see any of it.
Not everyone in the world is greedy and selfish like you, you know.
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Yes, because for two people to be married they MUST have children, or else they're not married. What, does the government come and take your marriage away if you don't have kids in x years or something? Funny, never heard of that happening...
You speak like "intellectual property" is just like physicaly property, and it belongs to someone and can be stolen. These are just assumptions, talking like they're some absolute truth doesn't make your argument any stronger.
You can't 'seize' ideas from unwilling persons, they still have it when you 'take' it. Information is not even remotely like physical property, get over it.
I am literally amazed that you're pointing this out in defense of java.. wow.
Your definition of "mighty cool" seems to correspond pretty well with my definition of "disgusting kludge"
RIP Sun Microsystems. Killed by GNU/Linux and Microsoft, of all combinations....
I wonder if corporate america is ever going to figure out that you can't (ever, ever, period) remove something from the Internet....
Well, we'll just have to crack that then won't we? They will not take our free Internet away from us.
If you think this is a negative thing, you are not siding with artists, you're siding with the record industry.
Do they deserve your sympathy?
Those of you who ranted on slashdot about how proprietary drivers aren't a problem:
Told you so.
How crippled does your computer have to become for you to finally wake up?
You're right, that is immature and stupid.
.... Computer Science is obviously the best, all engineering is stupid. :)
Probably. It's just as important to tell noobs not to drink too much water as it is to tell them to drink enough.
I'm sure you'd be able to compile MS office and all it's depedencies. *groan*
Use packages if you want easy to install. No kidding building every single thing from source isn't going to be as easy as click-and-drool.
apt-get install gaim
gee, that seems pretty easy to me.
! .... I'm speechless.
Please learn what the hell MIDI even is before proposing that it gets reinvented, kthx.
(Hint: nothing is stopping you from doing everything you proposed right now, with MIDI exactly as it is - MIDI doesn't, and shouldn't (ever) have anything to do with sound creation)
I hope the "industry" does die. Maybe then actual musicians will get those dollars.
Go to shows, buy merch. This is good.
Do not pay for CDs from big record labels. What are they using those dollars for? Destroying the Internet last I checked. "Gee, thanks guys! Here's a bunch of my money!"
You want free software support for DRM? Are you insane, or do you just Not Get It(TM)? If you want someone else telling what you can and cannot do with your computer, you're using the wrong OS.
Uhhhh... an app built against a brand-new windowing system wouldn't run at all. Yeah, that's much better compatibility. (??!?)
Why is this a problem? It's good design. Any X "replacement" that doesn't have extensions is a downgrade that will eventually become obsolete.
Says who? Things like FLTK etc. exist for a good reason; they're needed. There can be no Ultimate Widget Set, period. Yeah, it would be nice if the qt/gtk split didn't exist - oh well. It does; deal with it.
Let the widget set people work on the widget set(s), and the graphics backend people work on the graphics backend. Unless you have a real reason mashing them together is a good idea...
I'm sure we probably have, but you havn't mentioned any.
Abandoning X is the dumbest idea I've heard yet.
Give me one good reason it's not a stupid waste of time and effort and I'll change my mind.
P.S. You might want to look at http://freedesktop.org/~keithp/screenshots/ first to avoid that nasty foot taste.
Troll. You know exactly why people get angry when things like this are made proprietary.
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GNU/Linux is about 'open source', deal with it. If you don't care, go use Windows (or OSX, or Solaris, or
Oh yeah, I fear business and accounting classes alright.... the risk of suicide from useless bullshit overload is a little too hight for my tastes. I fear that I might take the less painful route and end it all.
And non-geeks might fear computer science because it's too difficult, but I sure as hell don't fear that trivial nonsense because it's too difficult.
And yeah, I have actually taken accounting/business courses. I have a word for them, and that word is "bullshit".
If I write a GPLed library, I DON'T WANT some selfish asshole of a developer linking against it to develop his proprietary application.
If said developer wants exclusive proprietary control over his code... he can write his code his f*king self.
IANAL, but I'm pretty damn sure this is completely impossible.
The court can not just take away your copyright because of some flaw with your license. They can invalidate the license, sure. But think about it for a second.. for the court to "declare" your GPL program public domain, they literally have to take your copyright away from you.
Taking your copyright away from you for a problem with your license? Yeah, right - good luck, Darl. *rolls eyes*
so your window managing environment sucks.
I don't think doing stupid things to app UIs is the solution to this problem.
Yeah, just because Photoshop does it means the GIMP should, or else they're just being stupid and intentionally different. *rolls eyes*
Yeah, MDI.. good idea. "Hey, let's have a window, with a little kinda-window-manager in it, that manages little kinda-windows, and that whole big real window can run in a real window manager". Genius. That's not redundant and stupid or anything.
In either case you can arrange the 'sub-windows' however you want.. what exactly is the benefit of having a big, stupid box around them all?
No, it's not.
Ever heard of a precedent?
ah, good old e.themes.org. You're absolutely right; there was a community built around themes.org, just dedicated to making awesome themes.
That little bar to the left with the top 5 downloaded themes was about the biggest motivating factor I've ever had for a project. Just having your theme up there for a few days felt really good.... somebody actually used your theme!
Does this exist anymore? Why isn't there, say, a comparable GNOME themeing community? Alot of the E nerds went to GNOME after E17 failed to materialise in any sane amount of time, you'd think they'd be themeing..
Then again.... I'm not.
Oh, how I miss the good ol' Enlightenment days... back when #E was on EFNET; good times.
.NET nonsense, or Enlightenment, heading towards a solid GUI of hardware accelerated GL goodness (far before apple /ripped off/ the idea I might add)...
Everything nowadays is so boring. When's the last time you have honestly seen an impressive looking desktop?
GNOME? Boring
KDE? Boring
Fluxbox? Windowmaker? XFCE? Boring, boring, boring.
I, for one, am still looking forward to E17, after all this time.
GNOME going in the direction of being totally based on M$
Frankly, still noone has convinced me I need a "desktop environment" (despite the fact that I run GNOME).
What does it offer? Nautilus sitting in the background and eating up resources doing nothing in parcicular? A panel? Gee, sweet. Definatley worth the hundreds of megs of code.
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Numbers don't have to represent "counts" of anything, engineering-boy.
Doesn't count? Why? Because I ACTUALLY DID?
Yeah, right. Nice one buddy.
Oh, and for your link: www.freshmeat.net
Enjoy. The linux-audio-dev list also contains links to things I've worked on, and info/screenies/discussion on my current as-yet-unreleased project. But since you obviously want to just steal my code and contribute nothing back, I don't think I even want you to see any of it.
Not everyone in the world is greedy and selfish like you, you know.