I taped 7 drives together and shot them with Military Ball from a Mosin Nagant Model 44. At 50 yards it only penetrated 5 HD's. Maybe if I had hit the platters rather then center punching the spindle it would have penetrated more.
Long distance. 50 or 100 yards is best with the rifle. Offhand they make a dandy little target but if your going to use a bench back them up to 200 yards.
If handguns are your thing then try the 44mag or 45LC at 25yards. In any case I suspect that 3 or more rounds through the platters will make them hard to read.
:::: From Geekoid::::::::::::: typical republician crap.
USe this issue to twist it somehow to indicate that the republicans aren't at fault for anything.
Fucking idiot, you are not helping.::::::::::
Never said I was a Republican and I never said that Republicans are NEVER at fault for "anything". I made a mildly (I thought)amusing comment about a very obvious Slashdot trait.
Now it is true that I did leave out the other two major possibilitys (according to the Gospel of Slashdot), after Bush/Rove/Cheaney you have either (1) America (or fat Americans, take your choice) or (2) WalMart. One of those three (four) has to be responsible for the legislature of the state of Washington passing and the Democratic Governor signing into law a stupid and intrusive bill
Now as for helping, since I don't live in Washington but in the great state of Komifornia, I don't see as it is any of my business. I also see it as a "States Rights" issue. Having read the Bill of Rights I don't see this as anything but. If the state of Washington wants to outlaw online gaming they can. I think it is stupid but they have the right. If the people in the state don't agree they can vote them out.
You on the other hand leap straight to insults and profanity. One of us has an anger management problem and I don't think it is me. Put down the keyboard, take a step or two back and take a couple of deep breaths.
Remember that "Profanity is the inevitable linguistic crutch of the inarticulate motherfucker."
Maybe my sarcasum meter needs adjusting but 10 seconds + google finds http://www.hrmguide.co.uk/jobmarket/unemployment.h tm which says that as of April 12th 2006::::: April 12 2006 - The unemployment rate stands at 5.1% - marginally up on the previous month - however, 28.84 million people were in work in the period December to February according to the labour force survey (LFS). This is the highest figure on record, up by 78,000 in the last quarter and 147,000 over the last year. The working age employment rate is 74.5% - unchanged on the last quarter but down by 0.4% on the last year due to growth in the working age population.:::::::::::
The real problem is the fact that there does not seem to be any real prohibition against making drawings of Mohammed. http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/i slamic_mo_full/ in fact it seems to have been quite common in the past. This time some Islamofacists decided to be offended and since the original cartoons were not bad enough they added some (of their own making, which were worse then any of the others. So lets cut their heads off) http://counterterror.typepad.com/the_counter terrorism_blog/2006/02/fabricated_cart.html I think that one of these days some of them will get their wish and piss us off enough to get a good old game of "Cowboys and Muslims" going.
Does any one remember when good old Bill Clinton signed the Executive Order that allowed Attorney General to do searches without court approval...
[Executive Orders]
[Federal Register page and date: 60 FR 8169; February 13, 1995]
EXECUTIVE ORDER 12949
FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE PHYSICAL SEARCHES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including sections 302 and 303 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("Act") (50 U.S.C. 1801, et seq.), as amended by Public Law 103- 359, and in order to provide for the authorization of physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes as set forth in the Act, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section.
Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.
Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense, is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches:
(a) Secretary of State;
(b) Secretary of Defense;
(c) Director of Central Intelligence;
(d) Director of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation;
(e) Deputy Secretary of State;
(f) Deputy Secretary of Defense; and
(g) Deputy Director of Central Intelligence.
None of the above officials, nor anyone officially acting in that capacity, may exercise the authority to make the above certifications, unless that official has been appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 9, 1995.:::::::::::::::;
I taped 7 drives together and shot them with Military Ball from a Mosin Nagant Model 44. At 50 yards it only penetrated 5 HD's. Maybe if I had hit the platters rather then center punching the spindle it would have penetrated more.
Long distance. 50 or 100 yards is best with the rifle. Offhand they make a dandy little target but if your going to use a bench back them up to 200 yards. If handguns are your thing then try the 44mag or 45LC at 25yards. In any case I suspect that 3 or more rounds through the platters will make them hard to read.
:::: From Geekoid :::::::::::::
::::::::::
typical republician crap.
USe this issue to twist it somehow to indicate that the republicans aren't at fault for anything.
Fucking idiot, you are not helping.
Never said I was a Republican and I never said that Republicans are NEVER at fault for "anything". I made a mildly (I thought)amusing comment about a very obvious Slashdot trait.
Now it is true that I did leave out the other two major possibilitys (according to the Gospel of Slashdot), after Bush/Rove/Cheaney you have either (1) America (or fat Americans, take your choice) or (2) WalMart. One of those three (four) has to be responsible for the legislature of the state of Washington passing and the Democratic Governor signing into law a stupid and intrusive bill
Now as for helping, since I don't live in Washington but in the great state of Komifornia, I don't see as it is any of my business. I also see it as a "States Rights" issue. Having read the Bill of Rights I don't see this as anything but. If the state of Washington wants to outlaw online gaming they can. I think it is stupid but they have the right. If the people in the state don't agree they can vote them out.
You on the other hand leap straight to insults and profanity. One of us has an anger management problem and I don't think it is me. Put down the keyboard, take a step or two back and take a couple of deep breaths.
Remember that "Profanity is the inevitable linguistic crutch of the inarticulate motherfucker."
TheRealGrendel
Pity that Governor Chris Gregoire is a Democrat. Otherwise you all could blame it on Bush/Rove/Cheaney.
Maybe my sarcasum meter needs adjusting but 10 seconds + google finds http://www.hrmguide.co.uk/jobmarket/unemployment.h tm ::::: :::::::::::
which says that as of April 12th 2006
April 12 2006 - The unemployment rate stands at 5.1% - marginally up on the previous month - however, 28.84 million people were in work in the period December to February according to the labour force survey (LFS). This is the highest figure on record, up by 78,000 in the last quarter and 147,000 over the last year. The working age employment rate is 74.5% - unchanged on the last quarter but down by 0.4% on the last year due to growth in the working age population.
2.9% vs 5.1%.. Close enough for slashdot I guess
The real problem is the fact that there does not seem to be any real prohibition against making drawings of Mohammed. http://www.zombietime.com/mohammed_image_archive/i slamic_mo_full/r terrorism_blog/2006/02/fabricated_cart.html
in fact it seems to have been quite common in the past. This time some Islamofacists decided to be offended and since the original cartoons were not bad enough they added some (of their own making, which were worse then any of the others. So lets cut their heads off)
http://counterterror.typepad.com/the_counte
I think that one of these days some of them will get their wish and piss us off enough to get a good old game of "Cowboys and Muslims" going.
How about 22,000' and living.
http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1071076/posts
Does any one remember when good old Bill Clinton signed the Executive Order that allowed Attorney General to do searches without court approval...
:::::::::::::::;
[Executive Orders]
[Federal Register page and date: 60 FR 8169; February 13, 1995]
EXECUTIVE ORDER 12949
FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE PHYSICAL SEARCHES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution
and the laws of the United States, including sections 302 and 303 of the
Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 ("Act") (50 U.S.C. 1801,
et seq.), as amended by Public Law 103- 359, and in order to provide for
the authorization of physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes
as set forth in the Act, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the
Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a
court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of
up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications
required by that section.
Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney
General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign
Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain
orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign
intelligence information.
Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following
officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or
defense, is designated to make the certifications required by section
303(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct physical
searches:
(a) Secretary of State;
(b) Secretary of Defense;
(c) Director of Central Intelligence;
(d) Director of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation;
(e) Deputy Secretary of State;
(f) Deputy Secretary of Defense; and
(g) Deputy Director of Central Intelligence.
None of the above officials, nor anyone officially acting in that
capacity, may exercise the authority to make the above certifications,
unless that official has been appointed by the President, by and with
the advice and consent of the Senate.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 9, 1995.