Wrong. I pay taxes to the government because I don't want to go to jail. Saying because I pay taxes is like saying I still support the war in Iraq (I don't).
The BSA is NOT a "acknowledged military youth auxiliary organization". Here's what it is:
The mission of the Boy Scouts of America is to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Law.
Now....for some, morals are the same as religion. To other's, they are not. Now, understand this....kids can be anything they want. If a Troop kicked you out because your gay, then they are WRONG. The rules specifically say you cannot be a leader. That is all! The only thing that IS SPECIFIC is this:
The Scout Oath
On my honor I will do my best To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight.
Duty to God.....it doesn't say which God. You don't believe in God, then you can't join. Period.
However, you can be a gay Boy Scout....you just can't be a gay Boy Scout Leader.
another that needs modded up. I just can't believe the vitrol that's being spent on a organization that you are free to join if you believe the way that they believe.
Just because a organization gets a federal grant means nothing....lots of private organizations get grant money.
And many private organizations receive federal dollars. For example, every time the Federal Government buys a product from a private company (groceries from Mejier, small business loans and more...). If we make this one of our beefs, then your asking for out and out socialism.....ie the federal government would have to OWN every thing it buys from.
Right now I am in IT and my boss is programming. Yep. Programming. I can't ask him for an opinion on something systems related. He has his door shut. My issue is he's not making sure things get done which is what managers are supposed to do!
On the otherhand, at least he's out of my hair and I have somewhat of an excuse when something bad happens. Which it will.
Agreed...kind of. I think it's ok to have them help on somethings, but it needs to end at desktop software and there should never be something installed on a desktop that can act as a server.
I think it's ok to have limits....like no corporate data in access databases or no server apps on desktops or no home routers shall be installed and stuff like that but to out right revoke the abiklity to install software is just wrong.
Trust them with little and they can be a great asset.
Yeah our network guys just put up a internal firewall around our servers and I had to find a way to let the user use a program similar to Crimson Edit. Crimson will let you edit a file via ftp (it downloads it to temp and when you save it uploads it). Well, we blocked ftp except to a couple brain dead apps (the app still uses FTP for somethings which REALLY sucks). So I had to dig around and find something that let him get his job done, and yet use port 22 via SCP or SFTP. It's only code he's letting fly over FTP, but the chance that real data could co over the link is too great to let the port open anymore.
His first reaction was why do they have to do that and I basically gave him the reason why and told him we'd find a way to do it the way he wanted or a similar way and we found it by using WinSCP.
Some people don't want to use new tools because they are used to the old one even though the new one acts just the same 99 percent of the time. It's the old well this program has worked great for me for years and why do I have to switch argument. I usually just let them go, but I can't now. Same thing goes with the stupid access apps out there.
It's like antivirus programs. I have no problems with having it installed on my computer, but I DO have a problem with it kicking off in the middle of the danged day when I am trying to work. The problem with some of the power tripping IT staff (hey I am in IT) is that they don't think....what time of day should these run?? They accept all defasults.....and that sucks.
Two of the guys in my department have Sleep Apnea and do not appear to be overweight. Sleep Apnea isn't a oveweight men's disorder. Anyone can have ti regardless of weight or sex. If you suspect it, get checked!
Yeah roadrunner, Verizon Wireless and others already do this. I use Mobile Web on my phone and I can't change the homepage on the phone to something else. It sucks.
Hmm....AEP does all of the power things here.....the plant, the wires....everything. Now I can see it with the gas company but with electric, the danged power is always going off.
Easy....it will flourish. Nokia has to license Symbian. Since they are using the gtk toolkit and now they will be using the Qt widget set, they will be offering a choice to their users and then the phones that use Symbian will gradually fade out.
Didn't you read the last sentence in your quote: The good ones leave. I am working on it, but I am also being picky. I don't want to be stuck like I am again.
This is bullshit. Experience in older technologies IS applicable to the new. Most young guys don't friggin realize it. THE problem is management is too interested in getting the latest tech in their organizations that they push it through and it gets done half assed. Try that in the mainframe environment and you'll get your ass chewed. Microsoft has also taught others that bugs are acceptable. What a friggin world we live in.
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No they aren't gone. They are STILL THERE. The Dems hold just as much responsibility as the republicans.
As George would say no they don't always go in threes. They go in a series of ONES!
Correct. However he's also trying to get us to not support it too by posting his opinion.
I don't like the fact that the NAACP doesn't support white people but you don't hear me bitching about it either.
Wrong. I pay taxes to the government because I don't want to go to jail. Saying because I pay taxes is like saying I still support the war in Iraq (I don't).
Still are:
http://www.usscouts.org/advance/boyscout/religious.asp
Note there's even an award for the Hindu and Islam religions.
The BSA is NOT a "acknowledged
military youth auxiliary organization". Here's what it is:
The mission of the Boy Scouts of America is to prepare young people to make ethical and moral choices over their lifetimes by instilling in them the values of the Scout Oath and Law.
Now....for some, morals are the same as religion. To other's, they are not. Now, understand this....kids can be anything they want. If a Troop kicked you out because your gay, then they are WRONG. The rules specifically say you cannot be a leader. That is all! The only thing that IS SPECIFIC is this:
The Scout Oath
On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.
Duty to God.....it doesn't say which God. You don't believe in God, then you can't join. Period.
However, you can be a gay Boy Scout....you just can't be a gay Boy Scout Leader.
another that needs modded up. I just can't believe the vitrol that's being spent on a organization that you are free to join if you believe the way that they believe.
Just because a organization gets a federal grant means nothing....lots of private organizations get grant money.
And many private organizations receive federal dollars. For example, every time the Federal Government buys a product from a private company (groceries from Mejier, small business loans and more...). If we make this one of our beefs, then your asking for out and out socialism.....ie the federal government would have to OWN every thing it buys from.
The BSA cheap? How comes it costs 45 bucks for a pair of pants?
Believe what you want to believe. If you don't want your kids to join, then don't. If you want a similar organization, then start your own. Period.
The BSA is what it is. If you don't like it, don't support it. At least you won't find them flip flopping on issues.
Wanna bet?? Howe about getting a degree from Harvard or Princeton? They are PRIVATE schools. :P
So what....there's tons of organizations that I don't like that get tax money. The united way is one of them.
Amen to that.
:P
THE BSA is trying to do a good thing and all they do is get blasted for standing up in SOMETHING Else they believe in.
They could have just took the easy route paved with money like they usually do.
WRONG. THE BSA ask that you do your duty to God in the scout oath. It just doesn't say WHICH God.
Woohoo! :D
Couldn't have said it any better myself.
Right now I am in IT and my boss is programming. Yep. Programming. I can't ask him for an opinion on something systems related. He has his door shut. My issue is he's not making sure things get done which is what managers are supposed to do!
On the otherhand, at least he's out of my hair and I have somewhat of an excuse when something bad happens. Which it will.
Agreed...kind of. I think it's ok to have them help on somethings, but it needs to end at desktop software and there should never be something installed on a desktop that can act as a server.
I think it's ok to have limits....like no corporate data in access databases or no server apps on desktops or no home routers shall be installed and stuff like that but to out right revoke the abiklity to install software is just wrong.
Trust them with little and they can be a great asset.
Yeah our network guys just put up a internal firewall around our servers and I had to find a way to let the user use a program similar to Crimson Edit. Crimson will let you edit a file via ftp (it downloads it to temp and when you save it uploads it). Well, we blocked ftp except to a couple brain dead apps (the app still uses FTP for somethings which REALLY sucks). So I had to dig around and find something that let him get his job done, and yet use port 22 via SCP or SFTP. It's only code he's letting fly over FTP, but the chance that real data could co over the link is too great to let the port open anymore.
His first reaction was why do they have to do that and I basically gave him the reason why and told him we'd find a way to do it the way he wanted or a similar way and we found it by using WinSCP.
Some people don't want to use new tools because they are used to the old one even though the new one acts just the same 99 percent of the time. It's the old well this program has worked great for me for years and why do I have to switch argument. I usually just let them go, but I can't now. Same thing goes with the stupid access apps out there.
It's like antivirus programs. I have no problems with having it installed on my computer, but I DO have a problem with it kicking off in the middle of the danged day when I am trying to work. The problem with some of the power tripping IT staff (hey I am in IT) is that they don't think....what time of day should these run?? They accept all defasults.....and that sucks.
Two of the guys in my department have Sleep Apnea and do not appear to be overweight. Sleep Apnea isn't a oveweight men's disorder. Anyone can have ti regardless of weight or sex. If you suspect it, get checked!
Yeah roadrunner, Verizon Wireless and others already do this. I use Mobile Web on my phone and I can't change the homepage on the phone to something else. It sucks.
Hmm....AEP does all of the power things here.....the plant, the wires....everything. Now I can see it with the gas company but with electric, the danged power is always going off.
Easy....it will flourish. Nokia has to license Symbian. Since they are using the gtk toolkit and now they will be using the Qt widget set, they will be offering a choice to their users and then the phones that use Symbian will gradually fade out.
This definitely is the straw that breaks my back....I was looking at the Ford Fusion as our next car. Not anymore....
Ford you get to lose out on at least one sale.
To heck with suing. Just hurt em where it hurts....their profits.
Didn't you read the last sentence in your quote: The good ones leave. I am working on it, but I am also being picky. I don't want to be stuck like I am again.
This is bullshit. Experience in older technologies IS applicable to the new. Most young guys don't friggin realize it. THE problem is management is too interested in getting the latest tech in their organizations that they push it through and it gets done half assed. Try that in the mainframe environment and you'll get your ass chewed. Microsoft has also taught others that bugs are acceptable. What a friggin world we live in.