Did I ever say encryption is there BECAUSE they want to stop pirates???? I know CSS is there to maximize their negotiation power with hardware manufacturer.
But so what - DeCSS IS used for piracy - piracy does not necessary mean "counterfeiting DVDs". Decrypting the VOB on your harddrive and sending it to a friend, or convert it into DivX;-) and burn it to a CD and give it away, etc.
1. If so, sites like DVD Informatrix should have already received a C&D notice or be already down.
2. If so, they'll have to go after a lot of DVD manufacturers, including Sony, Hitachi, Panasonic, for leaving secret codes to unlock their players.
3. I don't believe a court would allow DMCA to sanction price fixing, in this case. (if you want me to be obedient and don't temper with region locks, first sell your friggin discs at the same price worldwide)
4. DVDCCA's strongest arguments for the DeCSS case surround piracy, not DCMA violation. Region coding has absolutely nothing to do with piracy (yes, some pirates use DeCSS, admit it), and they know that.
5. Finally, to have it protected, there has to be an international law because region coding is by definition an international thing - only enforcing it in the US is a waste of effort. Fortunately, DMCA is not international (yet).
Even with dynamic addresses, you cannot prevent "spywares" (say, those creates their own ID) or those nasty 1x1 GIF that tries to identify you, unless you run a firewall of some sort that filters outbound connections.
I don't know what they think, but...
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Having a "native" API for the hardware is always a good thing - say, 3 years from now nobody uses OpenGL - then you can just write a wrapper around your native driver to that new API and voila - you've got a preliminary driver.
A marvellous arcade game that uses Glide is Rush2049. Admittedly tho, using OpenGL would make it easier to port.
I for one will become extremely sick if advertisements of any kind is embedded into the game discs as one of those developer/publish/license/"and so on" bitmaps.
I'd bet anything you can't skip the display sequence as well.
I'm really really really confused. What postmasters have to do is very trivially grant mail server access to only those with a valid login and password.
Then there'd be a lot less unintentional relay servers. The question is, WHY hasn't it happened already?
Moody, we are good at mathematics, so you can't cheat us! Let's see - you're not using the same definition of the + operation on all the operating systems!
If the total number of Linux bugs is that of RedHat + "other Linux flavors", then the total number of NT bugs should be the total of:
NT 3.51 gold + Sum(j=1 to 18) NT 3.51 SPj + NT 4.0 gold + Sum(i=1 to 6) NT 4 SPi + Win2000
which rounds down to roughly 100,000...let's put it to bugtraq!
It is *NOT* a First Amendment issue - employees has signed contracts that says you cannot tell outsiders this and that. If you do so it is a breach of contract.
If you have a big mouth you should not have signed that at the first place.
I doubt they'll receive any license fee at all. A game developer can just include a LINK on their CD, which has essentially the same effect as bundling the program itself.
Unless Autodesk tries to outlaw links like the MPAA does, of course...;)
Software-wise, Windows 2000 is 80% compatible with Windows 9x (drivers doesn't count). Yet, their kernels are not very similar - one based on DOS, another on VMS.
In fact, Windows NT was originally a concept of putting Win32 API on top of a VMS-based kernel, and it works (sort of).
So, WINE is already doing what's done by NT. At best, it will achieve NT-like compatibility with Windows apps. So WHY, would we want to rebuild the wheel if there's tons of them out there that's good? (are you sure you can make better kernels than FreeBSD's?)
If Microsoft can wrap a Win32 API on top of a VMS-like kernel, and Apple can wrap a MacOS API on top of a BSD kernel, why can't we wrap a Win32 API on top of our Linux kernel?
Better put the otherwise-wasted effort to improve WINE. That day will arrive.
>So, if I understand you, copyright is good, but >it's bad. Which is it?
Ever heard of "Ambivalence of invention"? Copyright is a human invention and therefore what holds true for all other inventions also holds for copyright: It *must* be both good and bad at the same time. I think Mattdm demonstrated the point pretty well.
>You're completely ignoring my point. We're >giving Microsoft rights that we're not giving >the MPAA and the RIAA. Why shouldn't the MPAA >have the same rights as Microsoft?
Who said we've given Microsoft the right - go ask RMS what he thinks. But at least, current software EULA's do not override existing copyright laws.
"reverse engineering is prohibited *except where this prohibition is prohibited by law*" tells you where your freedom is. Most software EULA's are designed to guard against *piracy* - at least they say you can make 1 (one) backup copy. Even if the copies are identical.
The "MPAA license", however, says, "reverse engineering is prohibited except where this prohibition is prohibited by DMCA". Now you see where the problem is. Want to make an analog backup copy? Nah. Macrovision prevents you from doing so. Want to watch a disc you bought on your trip to Europe? Nah. Region coding doesn't let you do that.
With the protective measure designed to protect against access of content and NOT piracy, but
1. DISTRIBUTION CHANNEL and price*S* THEREOF, 2. EXCLUSIVE right of determining WHO can produce DVDs
Sounds like, looks like and smells like an anticompetitive practice to me.
You're looking at the wrong question.
Instead of asking "we're giving MS the right why don't we give MPAA too?" why don't you take a second and wonder "why doesn't MPAA give us the right even MS so generously gives us?"
The 2600 crew, do you see this? Post ways to bypass region coding (and only region coding) on your index.html - and see if the MPAA dare to bring it to the court.
If it does, we can further the point that the DCMA is not only about piracy and also "access control to content" and there might be hope to restrict the DMCA into another anti-piracy bill.
If it doesn't, bring it to the likes of CNET and Wired. When it becomes well known by Americans that their DVD players have secret Region-code disabling features, they'll find some lame reason to bring it to the court - which is to the best of our interest to weaken the DMCA.
When it goes to court, expect MPAA's mindshare to drop among the Jack and Joes' of America, not just/. readers - the concept of Region coding is a lot easier to understand than CSS. If we get the public's attention, it'd be fun to see how the MPAA would react.
You mean, you are hoping Apple to put a chip from a company that tries to censor its affiliate site and released obfuscated opensource drivers (what a sin )? If anyone is misbehaving here, it is NVidia.
It is true that you have to turn Z-buffering off in order to see transparent objects, the triangles do NOT have to be depth-sorted and blit in order, due to a transparency technique called "nearest key search".
It is not as accurate as depth-sorted triangles but is faster and is not order-dependent. Don't ask me how it works tho, I just read it off somewhere...
Soon we'll have banner ads that enlarge themselves when you don't look at them. Better yet, why don't come up with one that follows where your eyes go?
Duh.
;-) and burn it to a CD and give it away, etc.
Did I ever say encryption is there BECAUSE they want to stop pirates???? I know CSS is there to maximize their negotiation power with hardware manufacturer.
But so what - DeCSS IS used for piracy - piracy does not necessary mean "counterfeiting DVDs". Decrypting the VOB on your harddrive and sending it to a friend, or convert it into DivX
Read before you reply.
Don't you know what the region is at the time you buy the disc? On the back of the box there is a logo telling you what region the disc is on.
So I don't think it is workable if a player is changed to the region of the disk first.
2. If so, they'll have to go after a lot of DVD manufacturers, including Sony, Hitachi, Panasonic, for leaving secret codes to unlock their players.
3. I don't believe a court would allow DMCA to sanction price fixing, in this case.
(if you want me to be obedient and don't temper with region locks, first sell your friggin discs at the same price worldwide)
4. DVDCCA's strongest arguments for the DeCSS case surround piracy, not DCMA violation. Region coding has absolutely nothing to do with piracy (yes, some pirates use DeCSS, admit it), and they know that.
5. Finally, to have it protected, there has to be an international law because region coding is by definition an international thing - only enforcing it in the US is a waste of effort.
Fortunately, DMCA is not international (yet).
What? I was there too - I rolled down from it last winter. Why didn't I see you?
Even with dynamic addresses, you cannot prevent "spywares" (say, those creates their own ID) or those nasty 1x1 GIF that tries to identify you, unless you run a firewall of some sort that filters outbound connections.
I don't think IPv6 can address this...
Q: RAMB*S
A: Ramb*s, A Mere Buncha *tter Shit.
Having a "native" API for the hardware is always a good thing - say, 3 years from now nobody uses OpenGL - then you can just write a wrapper around your native driver to that new API and voila - you've got a preliminary driver.
A marvellous arcade game that uses Glide is Rush2049. Admittedly tho, using OpenGL would make it easier to port.
If I were a mod now I'd UP this as insightful.
Geez. With that sweet 256-grey scale graphical equalizer and plugins...and about 100 keys to control the volumes, song to play, etc.
I can't see why I'd get any other MP3 player, ever.
I for one will become extremely sick if advertisements of any kind is embedded into the game discs as one of those developer/publish/license/"and so on" bitmaps.
I'd bet anything you can't skip the display sequence as well.
I'm really really really confused. What postmasters have to do is very trivially grant mail server access to only those with a valid login and password.
Then there'd be a lot less unintentional relay servers. The question is, WHY hasn't it happened already?
Moody, we are good at mathematics, so you can't cheat us! Let's see - you're not using the same definition of the + operation on all the operating systems!
If the total number of Linux bugs is that of RedHat + "other Linux flavors", then the total number of NT bugs should be the total of:
NT 3.51 gold + Sum(j=1 to 18) NT 3.51 SPj + NT 4.0 gold + Sum(i=1 to 6) NT 4 SPi + Win2000
which rounds down to roughly 100,000...let's put it to bugtraq!
It is *NOT* a First Amendment issue - employees has signed contracts that says you cannot tell outsiders this and that. If you do so it is a breach of contract.
If you have a big mouth you should not have signed that at the first place.
I doubt they'll receive any license fee at all. A game developer can just include a LINK on their CD, which has essentially the same effect as bundling the program itself.
;)
Unless Autodesk tries to outlaw links like the MPAA does, of course...
"Half the world's mod-makers are using illegal version of 3D Studio Max anyway"
How about Worldcraft? I know it is for Half-Life only, but aren't there similar utilities for different games as well?
A better example: try beating me in Q3A using only the keyboard...
Some facts:
Software-wise, Windows 2000 is 80% compatible with Windows 9x (drivers doesn't count).
Yet, their kernels are not very similar - one based on DOS, another on VMS.
In fact, Windows NT was originally a concept of putting Win32 API on top of a VMS-based kernel, and it works (sort of).
So, WINE is already doing what's done by NT. At best, it will achieve NT-like compatibility with Windows apps. So WHY, would we want to rebuild the wheel if there's tons of them out there that's good? (are you sure you can make better kernels than FreeBSD's?)
If Microsoft can wrap a Win32 API on top of a VMS-like kernel, and Apple can wrap a MacOS API on top of a BSD kernel, why can't we wrap a Win32 API on top of our Linux kernel?
Better put the otherwise-wasted effort to improve WINE. That day will arrive.
>So, if I understand you, copyright is good, but >it's bad. Which is it?
Ever heard of "Ambivalence of invention"? Copyright is a human invention and therefore what holds true for all other inventions also holds for copyright: It *must* be both good and bad at the same time. I think Mattdm demonstrated the point pretty well.
>You're completely ignoring my point. We're >giving Microsoft rights that we're not giving >the MPAA and the RIAA. Why shouldn't the MPAA >have the same rights as Microsoft?
Who said we've given Microsoft the right - go ask RMS what he thinks. But at least, current software EULA's do not override existing copyright laws.
"reverse engineering is prohibited *except where this prohibition is prohibited by law*" tells you where your freedom is. Most software EULA's are designed to guard against *piracy* - at least they say you can make 1 (one) backup copy. Even if the copies are identical.
The "MPAA license", however, says, "reverse engineering is prohibited except where this prohibition is prohibited by DMCA". Now you see where the problem is. Want to make an analog backup copy? Nah. Macrovision prevents you from doing so. Want to watch a disc you bought on your trip to Europe? Nah. Region coding doesn't let you do that.
With the protective measure designed to protect against access of content and NOT piracy, but
1. DISTRIBUTION CHANNEL and price*S* THEREOF,
2. EXCLUSIVE right of determining WHO can produce DVDs
Sounds like, looks like and smells like an anticompetitive practice to me.
You're looking at the wrong question.
Instead of asking "we're giving MS the right why don't we give MPAA too?" why don't you take a second and wonder "why doesn't MPAA give us the right even MS so generously gives us?"
The 2600 crew, do you see this? Post ways to bypass region coding (and only region coding) on your index.html - and see if the MPAA dare to bring it to the court.
/. readers - the concept of Region coding is a lot easier to understand than CSS. If we get the public's attention, it'd be fun to see how the MPAA would react.
If it does, we can further the point that the DCMA is not only about piracy and also "access control to content" and there might be hope to restrict the DMCA into another anti-piracy bill.
If it doesn't, bring it to the likes of CNET and Wired. When it becomes well known by Americans that their DVD players have secret Region-code disabling features, they'll find some lame reason to bring it to the court - which is to the best of our interest to weaken the DMCA.
When it goes to court, expect MPAA's mindshare to drop among the Jack and Joes' of America, not just
You mean, you are hoping Apple to put a chip from a company that tries to censor its affiliate site and released obfuscated opensource drivers (what a sin )? If anyone is misbehaving here, it is NVidia.
It is true that you have to turn Z-buffering off in order to see transparent objects, the triangles do NOT have to be depth-sorted and blit in order, due to a transparency technique called "nearest key search".
It is not as accurate as depth-sorted triangles but is faster and is not order-dependent. Don't ask me how it works tho, I just read it off somewhere...
I don't know about you - I have used an Xpert 2000 with its newest beta driver on W2K with no crash at all. Rock solid in 2D and 3D.
If they come up with a "budget" version like the GeForce2 MX, the Radeon WILL be in my next video card...
Soon we'll have banner ads that enlarge themselves when you don't look at them. Better yet, why don't come up with one that follows where your eyes go?
Change the judge. Such conflict shouldn't even exist. The fair judge shouldn't be "interested" to any side.
The first thing we'll be seeing is a big paragraph on www.fbi.gov telling you how to make drugs. Made by - who else - those 31337 k1dd13s.
Now does it outlaw the fbi?
How about I crack some of my enemy sites and report them...