Facebooks 'product' is a public forum for people to engage with other people within. They provide a website where people can establish an identity and post content.
I am not sure where the idea comes from that this isn't Facebook's product. I mean, this is Slashdot, did stupid gas leak into the room recently?
Apple users are 'the product' because Apple delivers them to their limited number of sanctioned accessory makers. They've spent years making sure their connectors for add-ons are proprietary, to restrict who is allowed to sell add-ons to their customers.
Apple also restricts who is allowed to sell apps that run on their mobile gadgets. They 'sell' those people to the app developers who they choose to allow in their market.
Your photograph is still tagged on several of your aunts' facebook pages, and your cousin has you listed. And your contact info was sucked into your invisible profile because your sister said 'okay' when they wanted her contact info.
I haven't logged onto Facebook since maybe sometime in February (that I don't really remember.) If I log on to say 'delete me' I certainly would not log on again within 14 days.
Oracle could not be a bigger poster child for "too big to fail tech company" if they tried. They actively poison their stagnant products, charge outrageous fees, sue haphazardly anyone they think they can get a penny out of, not give a shit about their customers, have a horrible service department, etc. Someone needs to take them out badly.
Sadly, though, you just described Oracle's complete corporate history. They have ALWAYS operated this way, and their entire success has been in operating this way. Going way back to the beginning, Larry has run a sleaze operation. He's gotten really good at it.
and does not have a litigation cloud over its head.
That's the bit that people in this discussion seem to not understand. The litigation cloud in software has always been a very strong motivator. The whole existence of Linux as an OS is based in the fact that the (at the time far superior) BSD OSes in the early-mid 90's were under the cloud of the AT&T Legacy code liabilities.
Oracle will have marketplace seats and an install base. They will never have mindshare beyond what they can purchase.
It's more flagrant than Compaq copying IBM's BIOS. (Yes, they claimed they made a functional equivalent in a "clean room" way where there was no chance of actual copying and won in court. Everyone knows that's total bullshit.)
Everybody knows Phoenix BIOS was NOT bullshit.
The commented assembly language source code for IBM's BIOS is published in the Technical Reference Manual which anybody could by at the time for a few hundred dollars. It was flagrantly obvious to anybody involved with PCs at the time that the Phoenix BIOS re-implementation was a 100% clean-room operation.
Nobody is trapped. Unless you use a burned-in Facebook app, it is just a chunk of inert binary. If you never log onto Facebook with it, it's nothing. And the amount of space it's taking up is irrelevant. I have a 128mb SD card in my phone. No space problem at all. It's a $120 Virgin Mobile phone, by the way. You can't get 128gb in any Apple gadget for less than four times that much.
Oh, I would certainly agree. It's not the kind of 'regulation' that Mark wants. But seriously, Facebook bills itself as an authentication service for all kinds of third parties. In some ways they are THE authentication service. Which is a monopoly situation that makes what Microsoft has done in the past look like a bunch of pikers.
It's by no means as big as the Google App Store, but you can buy things like Minecraft and get Firefox for Android from Amazon. Amazon mainly maintains their app store for Amazon Fire tablets and their other Amazon-branded android gadgets. But they'll take your money for apps (and have lots of free ones, too). They're amazon, after all.
There is a BIG alternative to the Google Play Store called the Amazon App Store. You can buy a new Android device today and never, ever log your goggle account onto it. Most of the essential apps are available on Amazon Underground.
All you do is go to that link, download the apk and install it on your android gadget.
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Facebooks 'product' is a public forum for people to engage with other people within. They provide a website where people can establish an identity and post content.
I am not sure where the idea comes from that this isn't Facebook's product. I mean, this is Slashdot, did stupid gas leak into the room recently?
Shouldn't you be in your room rubbing your thumb against the glass of your phone?
Apple users are 'the product' because Apple delivers them to their limited number of sanctioned accessory makers. They've spent years making sure their connectors for add-ons are proprietary, to restrict who is allowed to sell add-ons to their customers.
Apple also restricts who is allowed to sell apps that run on their mobile gadgets. They 'sell' those people to the app developers who they choose to allow in their market.
It costs more up front because you're not being data-mined after to make up.
My MSI motherboard isn't data mining me. It has a fairly good i5 processor in it, and from Apple it would have cost at least twice what I paid for it.
It's not the code at Apple, it's the development environment. You could throw the best 'coders' in the world against that wall.
I have never, ever, encountered a greeter at Walmart who morphed into a receipt-checker.
You must go to one of the shitty WalMarts.
"are you aware that most of the problems today are caused by ?"
I have actively avoided being diagnosed. It's an important freedom that more people should exercise.
Your photograph is still tagged on several of your aunts' facebook pages, and your cousin has you listed. And your contact info was sucked into your invisible profile because your sister said 'okay' when they wanted her contact info.
If any had been told that by their employer, it would have leaked. That would have been the headline for this thread.
How would they 'nag the fuck out of me'??
I haven't logged onto Facebook since maybe sometime in February (that I don't really remember.) If I log on to say 'delete me' I certainly would not log on again within 14 days.
No, it was about DOS interrupt calls. Which are software. BIOS hooks and the layer that rides directly on top of them. Not at all hardware.
Oracle could not be a bigger poster child for "too big to fail tech company" if they tried. They actively poison their stagnant products, charge outrageous fees, sue haphazardly anyone they think they can get a penny out of, not give a shit about their customers, have a horrible service department, etc. Someone needs to take them out badly.
Sadly, though, you just described Oracle's complete corporate history. They have ALWAYS operated this way, and their entire success has been in operating this way. Going way back to the beginning, Larry has run a sleaze operation. He's gotten really good at it.
and does not have a litigation cloud over its head.
That's the bit that people in this discussion seem to not understand. The litigation cloud in software has always been a very strong motivator. The whole existence of Linux as an OS is based in the fact that the (at the time far superior) BSD OSes in the early-mid 90's were under the cloud of the AT&T Legacy code liabilities.
Oracle will have marketplace seats and an install base. They will never have mindshare beyond what they can purchase.
It's more flagrant than Compaq copying IBM's BIOS. (Yes, they claimed they made a functional equivalent in a "clean room" way where there was no chance of actual copying and won in court. Everyone knows that's total bullshit.)
Everybody knows Phoenix BIOS was NOT bullshit.
The commented assembly language source code for IBM's BIOS is published in the Technical Reference Manual which anybody could by at the time for a few hundred dollars. It was flagrantly obvious to anybody involved with PCs at the time that the Phoenix BIOS re-implementation was a 100% clean-room operation.
My Quadra 650 is the desktop version, but you can stand it on end and pretend it's the minitower version.
Don't look now, but the real obsessive is the one making numbered lists on Slashdot.
Nobody is trapped. Unless you use a burned-in Facebook app, it is just a chunk of inert binary. If you never log onto Facebook with it, it's nothing. And the amount of space it's taking up is irrelevant. I have a 128mb SD card in my phone. No space problem at all. It's a $120 Virgin Mobile phone, by the way. You can't get 128gb in any Apple gadget for less than four times that much.
This is a market segment that will never buy an iPhone.
Rooting your iPhone doesn't void it's warranty?
Why would you have ever run the Facebook app for them to have recorded a login for you to it?
Houses that don't get 'remodeled' have doors and windows that leak heat like a sieve.
Oh, I would certainly agree. It's not the kind of 'regulation' that Mark wants. But seriously, Facebook bills itself as an authentication service for all kinds of third parties. In some ways they are THE authentication service. Which is a monopoly situation that makes what Microsoft has done in the past look like a bunch of pikers.
It's by no means as big as the Google App Store, but you can buy things like Minecraft and get Firefox for Android from Amazon. Amazon mainly maintains their app store for Amazon Fire tablets and their other Amazon-branded android gadgets. But they'll take your money for apps (and have lots of free ones, too). They're amazon, after all.
There is a BIG alternative to the Google Play Store called the Amazon App Store. You can buy a new Android device today and never, ever log your goggle account onto it. Most of the essential apps are available on Amazon Underground.
All you do is go to that link, download the apk and install it on your android gadget.