I live in the center of the US corn belt, and EVERY gas station carries ethanol free fuel. Maybe different elsewhere but here it's pretty much mandatory as older farm equipment shouldn't run on ethanol fuels.
I thought not, but believe me, don't try it, you won't be able to, it's a grade lower than that used for silage/cattle feed.
You are more full of shit that feeder cattle you pretend to know about. The exact same corn can and does go to an ethanol plant or to a feed lot or even human food consumption processing. The by-product of ethanol is distillers grain and is also fed to livestock among other uses. I was raised on a farm and now have a few cattle of my own on an acreage.
You can eat and digest normal field corn just fine(GMO arguments aside), although it's not the sweet corn variety which what most people are used to.
FWIW, most small farmer don't get much or any subsidies for corn production and we nearly all have recognized for years that the ethanol pitch is bullshit. If you want to rage about farmers getting too much unwarranted subsidies, make sure you focus the anger on the big corporate farms because they're the one's that have Congress's ear. About the only benefit small farmer's have seen is the relatively recent sustained rise in corn prices due to the OP's point. The small farmer subsidy era largely went away during the Reagan Administration and has never returned. If you want to check your "fax", look at how many family farms went under in the 80's and the farm bill provisions before, during, and after that time.
You may also want to consider the reasoning behind subsidies as well. It's essentially a safeguard so that American food supply will be adequate on a yearly basis. If you let market forces run it entirely, there would be large swings in price and availability. Some might say fine, that's the way it should. The problem with is when a core need like food supply become volatile then so does everything dependent on the supply. The society we live in today would not be possible without subsidies to encourage farmers to plant even when there is excess. The argument "There shouldn't be subsidies" is completely different than "We have too many subsidies".
Microsoft Code is audited by Microsoft developpers.
How do you know?
So who do you trust, the guys to whom you gave money to have their OS or the guys you've took their product for free?
I'll take the commit logs and src history can review.
The Windows religion requires faith that comprehensive audits are done. Give money and hope you get returns.
The science of open source allows you to verify for yourself provided you have the skill and time. There is still cost involved with the use of such products, but it's at least fully accountable.
Rodney wasn't anything remotely close to resembling Sam's character. All your points are ridiculous. It's stargate TEAM, of course the team member talents will overlap.
I beg to differ. SG-1 had some of it's best work in it's last few years and the series finale was IMO the best one I've ever seen. Atlantis was also good, maybe not quite the level of SG-1. Then again, SG-1 was pretty brutal it's first two seasons. I never watched SGU because of what SciFi did to Atlantis which was a premature ending. It had decent ratings for SciFi so any series that isn't a blockbuster will on the chopping block there.
ZFS is both a filesystem and volume manager. I can't see how anyone would actually prefer the LVM management style to the All-in-One of ZFS, but whatever cocks their pistol.
Also it's absolutely shocking that phoronix would have benchmark which resulted in a Linux component clearly out preforming a roughly equivalent component from another OS. That's not their MO or anything. I'm sure they took great pains to ensure equality as they always do.
ZFS/RAIDZ is a great thing, but raw performance is not it's strength.
Obviously there were design features which appealed to Microsoft since they adopted the registry. No one is disputing there are technical merits of that part of it. The point your missing is that it creates an unnecessarily complex and obtuse burden for sysadmins, power users, and developers. The evidence for this overwhelmingly clear and indisputable.
While running everyday tasks with admin privs is a problem, it is certainly not THE problem. For one, an Administrator cannot "do whatever they want with the registry" as there are certain limitations. Second those problems wouldn't come up if they used a.config file Unix style approach because it's a great deal easier to document your config file style than it is to document how things would be in the inconsistent registry. It's easier to troubleshoot because it's more accessible and easier to share across machines. Third point is the registry cruft isn't necessarily do to dev laziness, it's in large part due to the overwhelming complexity requirement of dealing with the registry and the resultling ability to deal with it appropriately.
HELLO???? -- configuring your Windows system to be an NTP server/client shouldn't suck so much. What sucks even more is getting it to log stuff when your trying to troubleshoot it.
Wow, a constitutional scholar and and economist, you sure know a lot of stuff. Tell us what else do you know everything about. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
But how do we know that the poster who asked for a link was incompetent? Why is that the first assumption?
Because if you have a/. account, you know what google is at the very least. Communication forums like this exists to promote discussion, not answer rudimentary questions. Questions of that type are so fundamentally basic, it's hard stretch not to associate it will trollish intent. Where you do think the fucking docs are? At the documentation link that's right on the homepage of EVERY major OSS project. In addtion the OP(documentation requester) clearly made known he was smart enough to find docs for different db, one more clear indication of trolling.
Keep telling yourself that, it doesn't hurt so much then. I'll just be over with my transparent file system compression and other goodies if you need some more consoling.
FreeBSD had it around '05, Windows 2003 introduced COW snapshots. The new Win 7 and Server 2008 offer diskshadow, a decent cli interface to manage them.
EvanED is apparently not familar with VSS. I don't know of UI to VSS which is not 3rd party one.
If you've used any of the COW snapshot capable FS's, you know why LVM snapshots are inadequate.
[quote]First, FreeBSD's ZFS may be "well underway", but it's showing no signs of being usable any time soon. Let it suffice to say that anyone paying attention or using FreeBSD ZFS for much more than one or two small servers is likely to agree that their implementation is not "enterprise ready" as they so arrogantly claim.[/quote]
Hmm, it's been usable for many of us for quite some time. Not to say there haven't been problems with it, but less the equivalent point in OpenSolaris history since FreeBSD is able to import well tested code and patches for issues the first gen ZFS had in OpenSolaris.
[quote]Second, I'm not so stupid as to fool myself into thinking ports on BSD is a sustainable administrative tool. Nexenta, and I believe Illuminos, use apt.[/quote]
Again, many of us have used ports with great success for a long time. Personally, I find it easier than working with deb packages, and far easier than working with rpm's.
[quote]FreeBSD appears to be in decline as a project. I can't speak for developer activity, but I can say that their ability to actually ship code that works has become diminished since 7.1 or so. Entire subsystems have not worked for quite some time, yet they keep shipping it and saying "it'll be fixed in a couple years" (referring to USB and AHCI). Quite a few drivers have also had regressions.[/quote]
Wow this is like a broken record. The are no problems with either AHCI or USB for the vast majority of users. There were some changes to USB in 8.0, eg switched to being based off of libusb, device renaming, etc. AHCI and some the other related controller drivers were new in 8.0 as well, There were a few corner cases that didn't work well, but it's seen widespread usage with a great deal of success. The updates included in 8.1 address the corner cases and some further performance improvements. It's hard knowing what your issue is since you speak in generalities, but I assure you there are far more happy FreeBSD users than people like you.
[quote]In addition to ZFS, the Solaris kernel has dtrace, zones, and BrandZ.[/quote]
It's true OpenSolaris's zone are more advanced than FreeBSD jails, but for most uses the differences negligible. BSD Jails also integrate nicely with ZFS and FreeBSD's GEOM layer. OpenSolaris also has XEN dom0 support, I'm surprised you didn't take the opportunity to bag on FreeBSD's lack of it.
[quote]ZFS on Solaris/OpenSolaris/Nexenta is usable today. Not only does it "have" it, but you're able to trivially export an iSCSI device, use deduplication, and (not 100% sure on this one, just read about it having been added to Solaris in April) do differential filesystem snapshots. FreeBSD's implementation has none of this, giving it little more appeal than current btrfs on mdraid (and in some ways, less).[/quote]
It's trivial to export ZVOL on FreeBSD as iscsi targets. Granted it's not quite as nice as OpenSolaris since FreeBSD doesn't have an iscsi target in it's base system but there is a great one in ports and with a two minute wrapper script you have exactly the same functionality.
People talk of deduplication like it's some sort of magic bullet, but I think most of those people have no idea the overhead that imposes on the file system. Once they discover the resources necesscary to run it effectively, much of the enthusiasim fades away. It's a really a very select usage were deduplication would be economically feasible to implement.
Doesn't seem like you understand much about ZFS. Differential snapshot are integral to ZFS, you can't have ZFS with getting it so yes FreeBSD does have differential ZFS snapshots. Perhaps you're misidentifying this? http://netmgt.blogspot.com/2010/03/zfs-snapshot-differences.html Interesting, they have integrated diff into ZFS now. Trivial to do without the integration, if that's actually a make or break feature you need a new sys admin.
I know avatar support is something I have found severely lacking. I mean I can get so much more tech support done in Virtual worlds, but our genderless gray figures are so bland. How are users supposed to find the right tech person if we all look the same? Now if we can get our Avatars tied into OpenID, then miracles will happen.
This article was the biggest piece of crap I've seen today and that includes the sick calf I'm treating. Come on robots?! Give me a break.
Several things, but first things first. Net IO always, always, always take precedence over disk io in FreeBSD and has always always always been that way. In terms of disk IO, reads are heavily prioritized over writes on UFS, unsure what happens on ZFS but I think it's a more even distrobution.
It is quite likely you have a experienced a buggy network driver, is that NIC recognized as an em device? That one and a couple of other intel nic drivers have gotten some recent love as you weren't the only one who experienced stalling. The stall had zero to do with the filesystem behavior and quite frankly it's disconcerting you related the two. A recent 8-STABLE should preform better with your NIC.
ZFS doesn't really need 4 GB RAM to preform well, 2 does fine on a moderately loaded system. The key is to be using an amd64 build since i386 has limited kernel memory space. It can work on i386, and it does fine with some tuning but anyone using that combo should be prepared to do the tuning themselves.
Well, I'm perfectly willing to accept that there have been wide temperature variations in the past. I'm no geologist nor climatologist, but I would have assumed that. However, those variations have do nothing with AWG as far as confirming or denying it.
What I do know is the graphs climatologists present about global warming(like the so-called "hockey stick graph") and the correlation between between such graphs and industrialization is quite troubling.
BTW, your sig is wrong. BSD is free as in speech, some would argue much more so than the GPL with me being one. Quite frankly, trying to simply paint BSD as only free as in beer is asinine. Now which OS was it that was the first campaigned against binary blobs? I'll give you hint, it has BSD in its name.
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I live in the center of the US corn belt, and EVERY gas station carries ethanol free fuel. Maybe different elsewhere but here it's pretty much mandatory as older farm equipment shouldn't run on ethanol fuels.
I thought not, but believe me, don't try it, you won't be able to, it's a grade lower than that used for silage/cattle feed.
You are more full of shit that feeder cattle you pretend to know about. The exact same corn can and does go to an ethanol plant or to a feed lot or even human food consumption processing. The by-product of ethanol is distillers grain and is also fed to livestock among other uses. I was raised on a farm and now have a few cattle of my own on an acreage.
You can eat and digest normal field corn just fine(GMO arguments aside), although it's not the sweet corn variety which what most people are used to.
FWIW, most small farmer don't get much or any subsidies for corn production and we nearly all have recognized for years that the ethanol pitch is bullshit. If you want to rage about farmers getting too much unwarranted subsidies, make sure you focus the anger on the big corporate farms because they're the one's that have Congress's ear. About the only benefit small farmer's have seen is the relatively recent sustained rise in corn prices due to the OP's point. The small farmer subsidy era largely went away during the Reagan Administration and has never returned. If you want to check your "fax", look at how many family farms went under in the 80's and the farm bill provisions before, during, and after that time.
You may also want to consider the reasoning behind subsidies as well. It's essentially a safeguard so that American food supply will be adequate on a yearly basis. If you let market forces run it entirely, there would be large swings in price and availability. Some might say fine, that's the way it should. The problem with is when a core need like food supply become volatile then so does everything dependent on the supply. The society we live in today would not be possible without subsidies to encourage farmers to plant even when there is excess. The argument "There shouldn't be subsidies" is completely different than "We have too many subsidies".
If they would only field an army of gays, the war could be immediately.
The terror inflicted by a gay army marching down on American forces would cause them to fold like 1000 Thread Count Solid Egyptian Cotton Sheets.
Microsoft Code is audited by Microsoft developpers.
How do you know?
So who do you trust, the guys to whom you gave money to have their OS or the guys you've took their product for free?
I'll take the commit logs and src history can review.
The Windows religion requires faith that comprehensive audits are done. Give money and hope you get returns.
The science of open source allows you to verify for yourself provided you have the skill and time. There is still cost involved with the use of such products, but it's at least fully accountable.
Caveman!
I couldn't possibly get any work done without my 18 button mouse. Standard tasks are ridiculously inefficient on anything less.
Rodney wasn't anything remotely close to resembling Sam's character. All your points are ridiculous. It's stargate TEAM, of course the team member talents will overlap.
I beg to differ. SG-1 had some of it's best work in it's last few years and the series finale was IMO the best one I've ever seen. Atlantis was also good, maybe not quite the level of SG-1. Then again, SG-1 was pretty brutal it's first two seasons. I never watched SGU because of what SciFi did to Atlantis which was a premature ending. It had decent ratings for SciFi so any series that isn't a blockbuster will on the chopping block there.
It's anything but honest and accurate. KDE4 works quite well with little to no customization.
KDE needs to be heavily customized to make it usable for the Joe Public end users.
Completely false, and obviously a troll.
ZFS is both a filesystem and volume manager. I can't see how anyone would actually prefer the LVM management style to the All-in-One of ZFS, but whatever cocks their pistol.
Also it's absolutely shocking that phoronix would have benchmark which resulted in a Linux component clearly out preforming a roughly equivalent component from another OS. That's not their MO or anything. I'm sure they took great pains to ensure equality as they always do.
ZFS/RAIDZ is a great thing, but raw performance is not it's strength.
I wonder if ZFS will continue to be released to be used in FreeBSD.
Yes -- http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-fs/2010-August/009197.html
Obviously there were design features which appealed to Microsoft since they adopted the registry. No one is disputing there are technical merits of that part of it. The point your missing is that it creates an unnecessarily complex and obtuse burden for sysadmins, power users, and developers. The evidence for this overwhelmingly clear and indisputable.
While running everyday tasks with admin privs is a problem, it is certainly not THE problem. For one, an Administrator cannot "do whatever they want with the registry" as there are certain limitations. Second those problems wouldn't come up if they used a .config file Unix style approach because it's a great deal easier to document your config file style than it is to document how things would be in the inconsistent registry. It's easier to troubleshoot because it's more accessible and easier to share across machines. Third point is the registry cruft isn't necessarily do to dev laziness, it's in large part due to the overwhelming complexity requirement of dealing with the registry and the resultling ability to deal with it appropriately.
HELLO???? -- configuring your Windows system to be an NTP server/client shouldn't suck so much. What sucks even more is getting it to log stuff when your trying to troubleshoot it.
Wow, a constitutional scholar and and economist, you sure know a lot of stuff. Tell us what else do you know everything about. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
But how do we know that the poster who asked for a link was incompetent? Why is that the first assumption?
Because if you have a /. account, you know what google is at the very least. Communication forums like this exists to promote discussion, not answer rudimentary questions. Questions of that type are so fundamentally basic, it's hard stretch not to associate it will trollish intent. Where you do think the fucking docs are? At the documentation link that's right on the homepage of EVERY major OSS project. In addtion the OP(documentation requester) clearly made known he was smart enough to find docs for different db, one more clear indication of trolling.
Maybe he doesn't belong to the hearts and minds club, AKA Ubuntu.
Keep telling yourself that, it doesn't hurt so much then. I'll just be over with my transparent file system compression and other goodies if you need some more consoling.
This person likes trolling FreeBSD. Notice there are no facts, only FUD.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1763546&cid=33346740
A long time ago.
http://axelilly.wordpress.com/2009/01/15/creating-vss-snapshots-on-windows-2003-server/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Copy
FreeBSD had it around '05, Windows 2003 introduced COW snapshots. The new Win 7 and Server 2008 offer diskshadow, a decent cli interface to manage them.
EvanED is apparently not familar with VSS. I don't know of UI to VSS which is not 3rd party one.
If you've used any of the COW snapshot capable FS's, you know why LVM snapshots are inadequate.
[quote]First, FreeBSD's ZFS may be "well underway", but it's showing no signs of being usable any time soon. Let it suffice to say that anyone paying attention or using FreeBSD ZFS for much more than one or two small servers is likely to agree that their implementation is not "enterprise ready" as they so arrogantly claim.[/quote]
Hmm, it's been usable for many of us for quite some time. Not to say there haven't been problems with it, but less the equivalent point in OpenSolaris history since FreeBSD is able to import well tested code and patches for issues the first gen ZFS had in OpenSolaris.
[quote]Second, I'm not so stupid as to fool myself into thinking ports on BSD is a sustainable administrative tool. Nexenta, and I believe Illuminos, use apt.[/quote]
Again, many of us have used ports with great success for a long time. Personally, I find it easier than working with deb packages, and far easier than working with rpm's.
[quote]FreeBSD appears to be in decline as a project. I can't speak for developer activity, but I can say that their ability to actually ship code that works has become diminished since 7.1 or so. Entire subsystems have not worked for quite some time, yet they keep shipping it and saying "it'll be fixed in a couple years" (referring to USB and AHCI). Quite a few drivers have also had regressions.[/quote]
Wow this is like a broken record. The are no problems with either AHCI or USB for the vast majority of users. There were some changes to USB in 8.0, eg switched to being based off of libusb, device renaming, etc. AHCI and some the other related controller drivers were new in 8.0 as well, There were a few corner cases that didn't work well, but it's seen widespread usage with a great deal of success. The updates included in 8.1 address the corner cases and some further performance improvements. It's hard knowing what your issue is since you speak in generalities, but I assure you there are far more happy FreeBSD users than people like you.
[quote]In addition to ZFS, the Solaris kernel has dtrace, zones, and BrandZ.[/quote]
It's true OpenSolaris's zone are more advanced than FreeBSD jails, but for most uses the differences negligible. BSD Jails also integrate nicely with ZFS and FreeBSD's GEOM layer. OpenSolaris also has XEN dom0 support, I'm surprised you didn't take the opportunity to bag on FreeBSD's lack of it.
[quote]ZFS on Solaris/OpenSolaris/Nexenta is usable today. Not only does it "have" it, but you're able to trivially export an iSCSI device, use deduplication, and (not 100% sure on this one, just read about it having been added to Solaris in April) do differential filesystem snapshots. FreeBSD's implementation has none of this, giving it little more appeal than current btrfs on mdraid (and in some ways, less).[/quote]
It's trivial to export ZVOL on FreeBSD as iscsi targets. Granted it's not quite as nice as OpenSolaris since FreeBSD doesn't have an iscsi target in it's base system but there is a great one in ports and with a two minute wrapper script you have exactly the same functionality.
People talk of deduplication like it's some sort of magic bullet, but I think most of those people have no idea the overhead that imposes on the file system. Once they discover the resources necesscary to run it effectively, much of the enthusiasim fades away. It's a really a very select usage were deduplication would be economically feasible to implement.
Doesn't seem like you understand much about ZFS. Differential snapshot are integral to ZFS, you can't have ZFS with getting it so yes FreeBSD does have differential ZFS snapshots. Perhaps you're misidentifying this? http://netmgt.blogspot.com/2010/03/zfs-snapshot-differences.html Interesting, they have integrated diff into ZFS now. Trivial to do without the integration, if that's actually a make or break feature you need a new sys admin.
While you're getting some learning here, you s
Parts of the OS X kernel has BSD code like the vfs layer, however it is definitely incorrect to call it a FreeBSD kernel.
I know avatar support is something I have found severely lacking. I mean I can get so much more tech support done in Virtual worlds, but our genderless gray figures are so bland. How are users supposed to find the right tech person if we all look the same? Now if we can get our Avatars tied into OpenID, then miracles will happen.
This article was the biggest piece of crap I've seen today and that includes the sick calf I'm treating. Come on robots?! Give me a break.
Several things, but first things first. Net IO always, always, always take precedence over disk io in FreeBSD and has always always always been that way. In terms of disk IO, reads are heavily prioritized over writes on UFS, unsure what happens on ZFS but I think it's a more even distrobution.
It is quite likely you have a experienced a buggy network driver, is that NIC recognized as an em device? That one and a couple of other intel nic drivers have gotten some recent love as you weren't the only one who experienced stalling. The stall had zero to do with the filesystem behavior and quite frankly it's disconcerting you related the two. A recent 8-STABLE should preform better with your NIC.
ZFS doesn't really need 4 GB RAM to preform well, 2 does fine on a moderately loaded system. The key is to be using an amd64 build since i386 has limited kernel memory space. It can work on i386, and it does fine with some tuning but anyone using that combo should be prepared to do the tuning themselves.
Well, I'm perfectly willing to accept that there have been wide temperature variations in the past. I'm no geologist nor climatologist, but I would have assumed that. However, those variations have do nothing with AWG as far as confirming or denying it.
What I do know is the graphs climatologists present about global warming(like the so-called "hockey stick graph") and the correlation between between such graphs and industrialization is quite troubling.
Um Greenland is hardly "low latitude". Here's a reference point.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=greenland&sll=1.406109,-49.921875&sspn=177.148757,193.359375&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Greenland&t=h&z=3
While a good deal of the ice is remnants of time gone by, when the time is long and the ice starts leaving it means something is changing.
That's probably a more apt title actually.
BTW, your sig is wrong. BSD is free as in speech, some would argue much more so than the GPL with me being one. Quite frankly, trying to simply paint BSD as only free as in beer is asinine. Now which OS was it that was the first campaigned against binary blobs? I'll give you hint, it has BSD in its name.