> Others are simply frustrated and angry that we don't do what they want us to do and are generally succesfull at what we do do. I agree with you on most points, but this one.
The problem in my eyes is that the US does things other do not want them to; not that they don't do what others want them to. I hope it came across the way I wanted:) I don't think the people of Afghanistan or Iraq expect much from the US. Aside from leaving the the fuck alone to fight their civil wars. Thus they attempt to blow up everything that reminds them of the US invaders.
As for being succesful... Well I hope you can recall the last two military campaigns (Iraq and Afghanistan) of the US armed forces.
I wouldn't call them exactly successful. More like a sticky nasty trap.
All the same, people are fond of generalizations (hehe), because it does tend to keep the worldview clear and manageable.
"plus! no boss will risk running a system no one certified to administrate"
Seriously wrong.
I have no certification whatsoever. Yet I have a job managing a bunch of servers.
Although I don't know any certifications for Debian...
Which of course costs a shitload of money and is full of solutions I hate...
I had been using RHAS in the past, and I hated every bit of it. At the time it was barely operable on Proliant G2s.
We had Redhat engineers working on the driver bugs that got triggered by heavy load.
So a distribution is a matter of personal preference. Not "professionalism".
Thank you for putting me in a category (hobbyist, whatever that is.). As I said before I love generalizations.
But hey, you've had your say.
Debian is well structured and manageable.
Ideal for medium scale server deployments.
It's not a desktop OS. It wasn't intended to be.
Ubuntu was.
I love blind generalizations. I am not crazy and I am using Debian on a lot of servers and 2 desktops.
I am actually pretty stable. Up until the point someone starts bugging my fav distro. Then I go BERSERK.
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I am perfectly happy with Debian stable on my 60+ _SERVERS_.
That's the important thing. Both of my 2 desktops run SID.
It's simply not a desktop oriented distro. But it excels in server space.
Besides backports are available.
Not to mention, that netcraft would be able to detect about 1 of my 60+ servers as debian. Since I disable all such info leaks on important boxes.
Ever seen downhill (skiing|biking)?
Not much point in that either. Yet people seem to be enjoying it tremendously:)
I myself love the descent parts of cross country biking. btw. Most forms of biking does not include a destination among its goals...
Yeah, good idea...
The ship will have to bring back enough fuel to be able to do a soft touch down.
Imagine the explosion when sth goes wrong during landing. Let's say during atmospheric reentry.
You yourself didn't actually do that did you?
The US has significantly higher number of firearms related deaths according to the paper you just pointed at. Even in proportion to its higher population.
Firearm-related deaths (Table A.10)
United Kingdom 1999 No. 197 Rate 0.3
United States of America 1998 No. 30419 Rate 11.3
Wind power does not scale. The largest turbines are around 3-4MW. Nuclear reactors are usually several hundred MW each. Finlands latest is over 800MW. It uses 2 such blocks. Totals at 1.6 GW. That's 400 of the largest available wind turbines. Talk about power density...
Not to mention that wind is _NOT_ available everywhere. Where I live (Hungary) the average wind speed is about 3.5 km/h
Use that for any large scale wind turbine deployment:P
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> Others are simply frustrated and angry that we don't do what they want us to do and are generally succesfull at what we do do.
I agree with you on most points, but this one.
The problem in my eyes is that the US does things other do not want them to; not that they don't do what others want them to.
I hope it came across the way I wanted
I don't think the people of Afghanistan or Iraq expect much from the US. Aside from leaving the the fuck alone to fight their civil wars.
Thus they attempt to blow up everything that reminds them of the US invaders.
As for being succesful... Well I hope you can recall the last two military campaigns (Iraq and Afghanistan) of the US armed forces.
I wouldn't call them exactly successful. More like a sticky nasty trap.
All the same, people are fond of generalizations (hehe), because it does tend to keep the worldview clear and manageable.
Central Europe. Not Eastern Not that it matters...
a lovely generalization you've got here. I am running Debian on servers and desktops alike. I wonder where that puts me in you scheme of the world.
"plus! no boss will risk running a system no one certified to administrate" Seriously wrong. I have no certification whatsoever. Yet I have a job managing a bunch of servers. Although I don't know any certifications for Debian...
Which of course costs a shitload of money and is full of solutions I hate... I had been using RHAS in the past, and I hated every bit of it. At the time it was barely operable on Proliant G2s. We had Redhat engineers working on the driver bugs that got triggered by heavy load. So a distribution is a matter of personal preference. Not "professionalism". Thank you for putting me in a category (hobbyist, whatever that is.). As I said before I love generalizations. But hey, you've had your say.
Debian is well structured and manageable. Ideal for medium scale server deployments. It's not a desktop OS. It wasn't intended to be. Ubuntu was. I love blind generalizations. I am not crazy and I am using Debian on a lot of servers and 2 desktops. I am actually pretty stable. Up until the point someone starts bugging my fav distro. Then I go BERSERK.
I am perfectly happy with Debian stable on my 60+ _SERVERS_. That's the important thing. Both of my 2 desktops run SID. It's simply not a desktop oriented distro. But it excels in server space. Besides backports are available. Not to mention, that netcraft would be able to detect about 1 of my 60+ servers as debian. Since I disable all such info leaks on important boxes.
You are confused.
Please note the difference between different distributions version numbering.
There is no such thing as Linux (7|10).0. Those should have been Suse Linux 10.0 or something similar.
Debian is totally free to numbers its releases as it likes. Just as Redhat, Sun, Novell, MS or anyone else for that matter.
Ever seen downhill (skiing|biking)? Not much point in that either. Yet people seem to be enjoying it tremendously :)
I myself love the descent parts of cross country biking. btw. Most forms of biking does not include a destination among its goals...
Yeah, good idea... The ship will have to bring back enough fuel to be able to do a soft touch down. Imagine the explosion when sth goes wrong during landing. Let's say during atmospheric reentry.
You yourself didn't actually do that did you? The US has significantly higher number of firearms related deaths according to the paper you just pointed at. Even in proportion to its higher population. Firearm-related deaths (Table A.10) United Kingdom 1999 No. 197 Rate 0.3 United States of America 1998 No. 30419 Rate 11.3
How many times does it have to be said?
:P
Wind power does not scale. The largest turbines are around 3-4MW.
Nuclear reactors are usually several hundred MW each. Finlands latest is over 800MW. It uses 2 such blocks. Totals at 1.6 GW. That's 400 of the largest available wind turbines. Talk about power density...
Not to mention that wind is _NOT_ available everywhere. Where I live (Hungary) the average wind speed is about 3.5 km/h
Use that for any large scale wind turbine deployment