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  1. Re:But there is Vertical movement... on Puzzling Electric Hurricanes · · Score: 2

    Because a "pull" is an anthropomorphic emotion exhibited by the storm? If you're going to call it a fallacy at least point towards a more correct one. Notice I didn't say "the low pressure wanted the air pulled towards it to be happy." And needless to say, I thought the quotation marks around the original were telling enough I was speaking of the end result, not the mechanism. For the record IANAM, and bow to your superior knowledge. I was merely pointing out, as you just did, the thought that there was no vertical movement was ridiculous and there's something else going on. And yes, more research should be done.

  2. But there is Vertical movement... on Puzzling Electric Hurricanes · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Major storms, including severe Thunderstorms and Hurricanes are an oddity in atmospheric conditions specifically because there is vertical movement. Normally the atmosphere is in hydrostatic balance and the vertical speed of an air parcel can be ignored. In a thunderstorm there are severe downdrafts that overpower the pressure gradient force and updrafts stronger than the force of gravity. It's only in severe storms when the atmosphere isn't in hydrostatic balance. Hurricanes couldn't develop without vertical movement; the eye in the center is a result of the surface low "pulling" air from the upper atmosphere down and clearing the clouds; the bands are similar downdrafts with updrafts occurring at the eye wall. There's more to the lack of lightning than no movement.