It is probably an even smaller odds if you throw in the distrubtion in time. Civs have to be specially close enough to each other to detect (and one has to be sufficiently broadcasting and another has to be sufficiently looking) and their existince in time must also overlap or they will just miss each other. Time is another big dimension that effects the search.
If they do what we did then it is going to be hard to spot broadcasted alien communication. Eventually they may learn how to encode data and then to encrypt it to the point it looks like noise/garbage. On the planetary level their emissions may be relatively brief and easy to miss if the normal trend is towards using cables or some such medium instead of broadcasting bare outward. Or maybe better knowledge of physics opens some other avenues of communication we have no idea about yet. SETI and all such efforts are just shots in the dark. We just don't know.
That is just a matter of investing the cognitive and temporal resources necessary for correct spelling and comprehensible sentences -- the problem is value driven motivation (caring enough to do so out respect for audience - or not) and time management decision making values (writing it quick and sloppy now vs writing it more carefully later and value assigned to social impact of either choice) and habit (cognitive intertial bias/effect of the net of historical actions).
We are designed to do the motions involved with full body motion -- our skeletal and muscles are designed for this. We are expressly not designed to hold arms out in front of the body of extended periods of time. Go ahead and try it. It is a GREAT way to build core muscles but it tires you out rather fast. It is a fairly effective exercised used by some physical trainers.
Point is you don't play dance dance revolution while sitting at a desktop computer -- you do this while using an entertainment system probably with a large tv.
These would come into their own better where gravity is less of an issue.
As to arms getting tired -- people wil simply not use it after a while due to there being less tiring alternatives when doing work, gaming or heavy web surfing.
As i noted in another post -- it will make an excellent auxilliary input device -- just not a good primary one when at a desktop.
From another point of view -- in _light_ gravity environments it may be superior to mice. Deep inside a gravity well it has limitations due to the limits of human physiology and simple endurance.
Agreed. It could be a great auxilliary input device. But for persistent repetitive motion typical of working or gaming or really even lengthy web surfing it is a hard sell.
It has a lot of uses unfortunately these uses do little for general desktop computer users...because tiring out the arms of a computer user (or giving them a new class of motion injury) is going to make the mass consumer market prefer it over the mouse (not).
In the home Linux is great for power users willing to invest the time to to learn how to use it. General consumers? Not without a whole lot of coaching from a power user for a lot of reasons.
Sure that's great if the vacuum/appliance is robotic or in any way useful as a remote tool. Although any remote controller would workl for this kinect or not kinect.
Yeah I'd prefer the mouse. Anyone who is out of shape or older is going to prefer the mouse. Anyone doing time consuming work on a computer is going to use the mouse. It just seems very non-ergonomic as an interface for use when sitting down at a computer.
Now if you were using the computer hooked up to a 60 inch screen sure. But a computer with a small monitor on a desk? No way.
They _are_ computers. The real difference is they focuse so much on the touch input aspect. Outside of that there isn't really a difference at all.
They tried touch pens for computers -- it didn't survive the market outside of special uses.
Tablets fill a specific market segment. That is all. To think it is the universal computer of the age is to misunderstand computers, interfaces and their related design.
Ugh I would utterly _hate_ notetaking on a tablet. If I need to take fast notes I can type. If I need to take fancier notes (draw graphcs, diagrams) or need to be quieter I'll write. Both are fairly compressed in terms of space used -- tablet would be just horribly unoptimal.
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Naked mole rats do this too -- mammals.
Which is exactly how I 'program' my dog. :D
It is probably an even smaller odds if you throw in the distrubtion in time. Civs have to be specially close enough to each other to detect (and one has to be sufficiently broadcasting and another has to be sufficiently looking) and their existince in time must also overlap or they will just miss each other. Time is another big dimension that effects the search.
Exactly. Plus a lot of civs probably miss each other due to separation in time.
If they do what we did then it is going to be hard to spot broadcasted alien communication. Eventually they may learn how to encode data and then to encrypt it to the point it looks like noise/garbage. On the planetary level their emissions may be relatively brief and easy to miss if the normal trend is towards using cables or some such medium instead of broadcasting bare outward. Or maybe better knowledge of physics opens some other avenues of communication we have no idea about yet. SETI and all such efforts are just shots in the dark. We just don't know.
Too many unknowns for such a blanket statement.
That is just a matter of investing the cognitive and temporal resources necessary for correct spelling and comprehensible sentences -- the problem is value driven motivation (caring enough to do so out respect for audience - or not) and time management decision making values (writing it quick and sloppy now vs writing it more carefully later and value assigned to social impact of either choice) and habit (cognitive intertial bias/effect of the net of historical actions).
We are designed to do the motions involved with full body motion -- our skeletal and muscles are designed for this. We are expressly not designed to hold arms out in front of the body of extended periods of time. Go ahead and try it. It is a GREAT way to build core muscles but it tires you out rather fast. It is a fairly effective exercised used by some physical trainers.
Point is you don't play dance dance revolution while sitting at a desktop computer -- you do this while using an entertainment system probably with a large tv. These would come into their own better where gravity is less of an issue. As to arms getting tired -- people wil simply not use it after a while due to there being less tiring alternatives when doing work, gaming or heavy web surfing. As i noted in another post -- it will make an excellent auxilliary input device -- just not a good primary one when at a desktop.
This does change maybe in aquatic or low gravity envrionments.
Or in boyancy neutral environments...say while underwater in a wetsuit.
From another point of view -- in _light_ gravity environments it may be superior to mice. Deep inside a gravity well it has limitations due to the limits of human physiology and simple endurance.
Agreed. It could be a great auxilliary input device. But for persistent repetitive motion typical of working or gaming or really even lengthy web surfing it is a hard sell.
They should start more fundamental and introduce them to grammers which would be useful to programmers but also to human language studies.
It has a lot of uses unfortunately these uses do little for general desktop computer users...because tiring out the arms of a computer user (or giving them a new class of motion injury) is going to make the mass consumer market prefer it over the mouse (not).
It will go the way of the light pen which is still around but used only in niche roles.
In the home Linux is great for power users willing to invest the time to to learn how to use it. General consumers? Not without a whole lot of coaching from a power user for a lot of reasons.
Developing those gorilla arms (or at least some kind of injury due to the poor ergonomics) that you have been lusting to acquire?
Sure that's great if the vacuum/appliance is robotic or in any way useful as a remote tool. Although any remote controller would workl for this kinect or not kinect.
Yeah I'd prefer the mouse. Anyone who is out of shape or older is going to prefer the mouse. Anyone doing time consuming work on a computer is going to use the mouse. It just seems very non-ergonomic as an interface for use when sitting down at a computer. Now if you were using the computer hooked up to a 60 inch screen sure. But a computer with a small monitor on a desk? No way.
Until you add a keyboard and a mouse...and a external optical drive..and then its just a modular laptop.
They _are_ computers. The real difference is they focuse so much on the touch input aspect. Outside of that there isn't really a difference at all. They tried touch pens for computers -- it didn't survive the market outside of special uses.
Students in general are going to a whole lot of hardcore, time intensive typing.
Tablets fill a specific market segment. That is all. To think it is the universal computer of the age is to misunderstand computers, interfaces and their related design.
Ugh I would utterly _hate_ notetaking on a tablet. If I need to take fast notes I can type. If I need to take fancier notes (draw graphcs, diagrams) or need to be quieter I'll write. Both are fairly compressed in terms of space used -- tablet would be just horribly unoptimal.