I just wish somebody would accuse Apple of copying the look and feel of something so we could shout about how Apple should quit ripping off ideas and do something original.
It makes the tax more fair to charge road-users by the mile and the ton over the road, and how would you measure that without a GPS odometer in every car?
Tax the fuel. It's not just Oregonians that use the road.
Something different would have come along. And since another round of thought would have been put into its design, there's a fair chance it would have been better.
Interesting. What's weird is I ran across an article that said 10-11 billion alone came from on-line subscriptions and DLC. The context was about consoles, but I bet PC figures were in there too. I lost the article tho.
I want to say one thing: The sales figures for PC games vs. Consoles is really that lopsided. And with that out of the way...
I just want to know where you're getting that number. Google for "console game revenue", and you'll see totals from 11 to 20 billion. For the total console market, not just one single platform. You haven't provided any sources yet.
I apologize. The report I read was a 5 year forecast. That is my bad. It looks like console revenue is about 11 billion for 2010.
Yeah that made my argument fall flat on its face. I concede, you win, have a good weekend, and I apologize for being an ass.
How the hell is that not a market? What kind of insane definition of market are you using?
One that doesn't depend on using one extreme example?
That number is way bigger than anything I've seen. Does it include hardware? Shall we also include PC hardware then?
Do you think they sold $50 billion at a loss in hardware to make $10 billion in games?
Half as many copies as what?
Console games, like I've been saying all along.
There are PC games that keep selling for years. There's a webshop entirely dedicated to selling old PC games. Many older than even the previous generation of consoles.
A great deal of console games spend a couple of years on shelves. It's almost comical how few PC games manage to be on shelves longer than 6 weeks. Old console games have quite a market, not only on places like GameStop and eBay, but also on Virtual Console type setups. This is really a non-point.
You can keep saying "Wrong" as often as you like, but that doesn't make it so.
Your being wrong is what makes it so.
If you knew even the slightest thing about PC games....
This from the guy who didn't have the dimmest clue about how much money the console market brings in. Heh. Meanwhile, being somebody who has worked on PC games...
In the sense that there's only one WoW, sure. But it's a really big one, and there are lots of lesser MMOGs that make plenty of money.
Again, that is not a market.
I admit it's a fuzzy market and it's hard to add up everything. I've also seen numbers of 17 billion and more. Keep in mind that the PC is a single platform, whereas there are 3 major console platforms. Maybe if you add them together, they're bigger than the PC market, but individually they're smaller.
The console market is approach $66 billion. Console game publishers sell way more copies on consoles than on PCs. Console game publishers also often publish across multiple consoles, increasing their sales. Why would you ignore this point?
Poor Blizzard and Valve. How will they ever survive? How about the many indie developers? It's only a handful of stupid self-destructive companies that manage to lose money on the PC.
The shelf life of PC games is much shorter and they sell half as many copies.
On consoles perhaps. On PC you have a lot more variation than that.
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I just wish somebody would accuse Apple of copying the look and feel of something so we could shout about how Apple should quit ripping off ideas and do something original.
Well, yeah, if you happen to live in the land of Apshai.
Yeah? How many USAsians are executed for non-violent crimes vs. China? Citation, pls.
Haha.
My bad, I'm humor impaired today.
Can we see your photography site?
Would setting your computer to a static IP instead of DHCP have any meaningful affect on boot times?
Hmm, I wasn't aware that the penalty for throwing a knife at police is execution without a trial.
If you were armed and I threw a knife at you, what would you do?
Also, he WAS unarmed when they killed him. Unless they gave him his knife back.
Unless they shot him while he was in handcuffs, they had no way of knowing.
You cannot apply hindsight here.
Read his post again. In the rush to be a smart ass you missed the obvious and important ingredient of his suggestion.
The funny thing about technology is that it's hard to get it working, but it's easy to copy. That's why patents exist and it's why they should exist.
Sadly, I think as long as the majority has 200 channels of shit to watch on television, they will remain placated.
Are you one of the placated?
Paper is not one-product away from majorly dropping in popularity. It'll be around when we're buzzing planets in our flying saucers.
Or just go back to using toll roads, which is where this whole conversation is going, anyway.
Betamax wasn't superior to VHS. On the second go, we got a better product. Thank you. :)
True, but the UK has more video footage of its citizens. ;)
You can mod my post down if you like, it still doesn't address the concern of fairness.
Why not just tax fuel like everyone else? This messing about with GPS seems ridiculous to achieve such a simple aim.
If they really wanted to be fair they'd find a way that taxes the bicyclists and out-of-state drivers, too.
It makes the tax more fair to charge road-users by the mile and the ton over the road, and how would you measure that without a GPS odometer in every car?
Tax the fuel. It's not just Oregonians that use the road.
Something different would have come along. And since another round of thought would have been put into its design, there's a fair chance it would have been better.
Ex: Apache, the most popular and very secure web server.
Apples != oranges, people don't sit in front of Apache all day who can be tricked into making exploits available.
Apple currently has major security problems that will only grow if their OS gains more market share.
Small pointless nitpick: You mean 'installed base', not 'market share'.
Did Slashdot substitute that with "iPhone" just to get the nerds all riled up?
Heh. Check out apple.slashdot.org, the average comment count per-story is significantly higher than on the main page.
Oh the fun of ad-supported news sites.
Interesting. What's weird is I ran across an article that said 10-11 billion alone came from on-line subscriptions and DLC. The context was about consoles, but I bet PC figures were in there too. I lost the article tho.
I want to say one thing: The sales figures for PC games vs. Consoles is really that lopsided. And with that out of the way...
I just want to know where you're getting that number. Google for "console game revenue", and you'll see totals from 11 to 20 billion. For the total console market, not just one single platform. You haven't provided any sources yet.
I apologize. The report I read was a 5 year forecast. That is my bad. It looks like console revenue is about 11 billion for 2010.
Yeah that made my argument fall flat on its face. I concede, you win, have a good weekend, and I apologize for being an ass.
How the hell is that not a market? What kind of insane definition of market are you using?
One that doesn't depend on using one extreme example?
That number is way bigger than anything I've seen. Does it include hardware? Shall we also include PC hardware then?
Do you think they sold $50 billion at a loss in hardware to make $10 billion in games?
Half as many copies as what?
Console games, like I've been saying all along.
There are PC games that keep selling for years. There's a webshop entirely dedicated to selling old PC games. Many older than even the previous generation of consoles.
A great deal of console games spend a couple of years on shelves. It's almost comical how few PC games manage to be on shelves longer than 6 weeks. Old console games have quite a market, not only on places like GameStop and eBay, but also on Virtual Console type setups. This is really a non-point.
You can keep saying "Wrong" as often as you like, but that doesn't make it so.
Your being wrong is what makes it so.
If you knew even the slightest thing about PC games....
This from the guy who didn't have the dimmest clue about how much money the console market brings in. Heh. Meanwhile, being somebody who has worked on PC games...
In the sense that there's only one WoW, sure. But it's a really big one, and there are lots of lesser MMOGs that make plenty of money.
Again, that is not a market.
I admit it's a fuzzy market and it's hard to add up everything. I've also seen numbers of 17 billion and more. Keep in mind that the PC is a single platform, whereas there are 3 major console platforms. Maybe if you add them together, they're bigger than the PC market, but individually they're smaller.
The console market is approach $66 billion. Console game publishers sell way more copies on consoles than on PCs. Console game publishers also often publish across multiple consoles, increasing their sales. Why would you ignore this point?
Poor Blizzard and Valve. How will they ever survive? How about the many indie developers? It's only a handful of stupid self-destructive companies that manage to lose money on the PC.
The shelf life of PC games is much shorter and they sell half as many copies.
On consoles perhaps. On PC you have a lot more variation than that.
Wrong.